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Corrections:
YOUR COMMENT IS VERY FUNNY IT SEEMS YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND
WHAT IS HAPPENING. LET ME TAKE MY TIME TO EXPLAIN TO YOU.

BOKOHARAM IS A MUSLIM QURAN INSPIRED TERROR GROUP!!

Now, take this as example OK?

Let say I have a property ( Christian ) and beside me is another persons
property ( Muslim ). On my property ( christian ) I decided to set up a gas
plant storage facility with houses. Now as the owner of the property
( Christian ) I decided to be CARELESS with the gas plant facility by carelessly
leaving it opened and unclosed at the same time setting up a a temporary
KITCHEN 5 feet beside the gas plant. Are u with me? Now, my neighbor
( Muslim ) whose property ( Muslim ) is beside mine seeing this TERRIBLE
CHARACTER / BEHAVIOUR of me ( Christian ) decided to advice/ warn of the
impeding disaster waiting to happen. I ( Christian ) replied the advice from my
neighbor ( Muslim ) by telling my neighbor ( Muslim ) to mind his own business
that my property ( Christianity religion permits me to do what I did ).
Now one day, fire explosion happened from my kitchen set up 5 feet beside the gas plant facility on my property ( christian ).

This fire was so serious that it extended to burning 30% of my neighbours ( Muslim ) property my neighbour
( Muslim ) was very bittered and unhappy that such happened to him despite
the fact that he had warned his neighbor ( Christian ) about his carelessness
severally but instead was insulted. Now this affected neighbour
( muslim )decided to confront the careless neighbor ( christian ) on the
damages done to his property by the FIRE he ( Christian ) carelessly IGNITED.

You know what the REPLY of the careless neighbour was ?... This was the
carelesss neighbours ( christian ) reply " why are you ( Muslim ) complaining? I
( christian ) had 90% of my property got burnt from the fire incident but you
(Muslim ) only had 30% of your property damaged. So you see my neighbour
( Muslim ), I (Christian ) got MORE AFFECTED than you ( Muslim).
NOW ...in reality, christians are the affected souls and all what the Muslims
who happened to have been the SOURCE (through religions believes and
ideology ) of the FIRE ( massacre ) could say is " both Muslims and Christians
are being killed. Moreover Muslims are more killed than Christians ".
HOW DOES THESE STATEMENTS MAKE SENSE TO ANY SANE PERSON?

Now, the normal things a sane person that knows his FAULTS would do is to:
* Apologies to his AFFECTED neighbour.
* The perpetrators get punished.
* Ensures that his affectected neighbours get JUSTICE. JUSTICE!! JUSTICE!!
* That sure never happens again

You need to apologize for making this wrong analogy.

First of all, your analogy does not make a case for the Muslims who are not fanatical but who are suffering for the crimes of the fanatical ones.

In your analogy, the Christian's carelessness caused an inferno that destroyed relatively more of his properties than that of the Muslim.

But in the case of Boko Haram, the malaise was not caused by the carelessness of the good Muslims.

Maybe you don't know it. But, when Boko Haram started off by spreading teachings that many imams were uncomfortable with, many messages were sent to the authorities concerning the sect (Boko Haram)

Prior to the clashes, many local Muslim leaders and at least one military official had warned the Nigerian authorities about the Boko Haram sect. Those warnings were reportedly ignored.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/aug/02/nigeria-boko-haram-islamist-sect

How can you then accuse these good Muslims of carelessness? They were vigilant and as soon as they began to get wind of the disastrous activities of the sect which went contrary to the teachings in the Quran, they alerted the authorities who failed to do anything.

Your analogy is thus very wrong and off point. The Muslim leaders were not careless. They were vigilant but the government of the day (under Yar'Adua) failed them.

Many of you Christians have not even bothered to read up on the history of Boko Haram. You all make misinformed judgement and lump all Muslims together under one umbrella. This is very unfair.

You say it is a Muslim Quran inspired terrorist group. But what about The Lord Resistance Army which is a Christian Bible inspired terrorist group in Uganda?

What about The Army of God , a Christian Bible inspired terrorist group in the United States?

What about TheNational Liberation Front of Tripura a Christian Bible inspired terrorist group operating in India?

And there is the deadly Anti-balaka, a Christian terrorist group killing Muslims in Central African Republic. These people have even cut up pregnant women simply because they were Muslims. Now, imagine a new generation of Muslims in Central African Republic calling all Christians killers simply because of the madness of the Anti-balaka in Central African Republic. How would you feel as a peace loving Christian?

Only uneducated people stereotype or make unfounded generalizations.

Even the Bible can inspire violence. It depends on how you read it.

Jesus said:

Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. (Matthew 10:34)

Any misinformed person can use this verse to create violence. Jesus is the foundation of our faith. He says He has not come to bring peace but war. Would it be fair if someone now concludes that Jesus was a violent person and which would mean that Christianity should be violent?

No! Only someone who takes this verse literally would make the mistake of inciting violence using that verse.

Think of Boko Haram members as misguided people who take every word in the Quran out of context or who read meanings to word literally rather than figuratively.

For instance, when Jesus dared the hypocrites to destroy the temple and that He would build it in 3 days, they thought he was talking about the temple. They didn't know that He was talking about His own body.

So, that someone or some people are inspired by the Quran to commit atrocities does not mean that the Quran supports their atrocities. They read the Quran literally and ended up doing the opposite of what it teaches.

If a Christian is inspired by Jesus's instructions to get a sword:

and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. (Luke 22:36)

How is that the fault of the Bible? The Christian failed to consider the context in which the instruction was made.

Some people actually think that it is easy to convert penalties.

Even Messi himself admitted that he was not good at taking penalties and would like to improve.

This shows that taking penalties demands skills too.

PHijo:
No, people like you undermine the power of resurrection with your mindset!
Christ came that we may be free, that freedom includes freedom from violence.
From all indication their primary targets are Christian's. Muslims are victims of friendly fire or disagree with their mode of operation.

Until people admit Buhari's government and all the Islamists attacking civilians are on the same page not much progress will be made.

You will know the truth and that truth will set you free!

The primary target of Boko Haram is Western influences

Christians are not their primary targets. No religion has been spared by these mad people. Obviously, more Muslims have lost their lives than Christians.

Boko Haram is a terror group. It is not a Muslim group. Their motive is to spread terror.

When they bomb motor parks and markets, you think they were targeting anyone in particular? They were hiding under religion to spread terror.

If you think Christians are the primary targets, I want you to provide answers to these questions:

What is the ratio of prominent Muslims to Christians that have lost their lives to Boko Haram?

How many churches compared to mosques/central mosques have been bombed since 2011?

What is the ratio of Christians to Muslims in IDP camps?

matex97:
You are brainless.
I condemn all death based on no bias but ask your delusional brain "what religion do the attackers profess?.

What about the Christian terrorist groups like the Anti-balaka that have targeted Muslims in the Central African Republic, including cutting open pregnant women?

They profess the Christian faith. But does it make them true Christians?

Danhoys:
I don't know if this is the right section.. Please lala, your help is needed.

Just this morning, I got a debit alert from AlieXpress and was wondering how possible. I thought it must be a problem with Aliexpress since I do shop there.. As i was trying to get to support, I got another debit alert, and yet another.

I had to block the atm through my bank app. I tried looking for my atm and it was nowhere to be found.

It dawns on me that I've lost my atm and someone is shopping with it. Now my question is, is it possible to recover my money through my bank, possibly trace the transaction and know who did it?

In the future, enable OTP transactions so that you will be the one to authenticate your transactions in the future.

As for whether you will be able to recover your money from your bank, it is very possible. As long as the person who used your card has not received his order, your bank can alert AliExpress and make them cancel the order. Your bank will block your card and the money will be sent back to your bank account.

kunleweb:
My dear brother let's keep our divergent realities on issues to ourselves. Like I said I would reiterate it when I see sheiks and imams leaders of mosques killed so delightfully by it's killers like they do with priests I'll take the matter as a war against humanity. EU released a memo stating Christians where needing killed. Employing it's big cache of private investigative tools o wonder how an individual moniker can wipe off such massive and important information off the earth. Like I said let's keep our realities on issues to ourselves. To each His own. Simple

The EU is not infallible.

Even the sophisticated intelligence unit of the United States once misled a whole country into believing that Iraq had Weapons of Mass Destruction.

DAVE5:
Well, I get ur point, but Jonathan even as we all agree was a not so good president for us all, he was a Christian, he being a Christian did not enact rules/laws that would profit only Christians and leave Muslims or other numerois religions shortchanged, that's how I chose to convey my message so you and every other person see we all want what is good for you, me and all of us as Nigerians

I don't understand. Are you implying that Buhari has enacted laws that benefit only Muslims?

And you must never forget that Buhari cannot solely enact laws.

kunleweb:
Na who be this. Mention one. Instance sheiks and imams got killed as gleefully as priests are being sluaghtered. Don't let us wait too long pelase

First of all, define what it means to be killed gleefully?

The convoy of emirs were attacked and emir of Gwoza was killed. How can you tell if that was or was not a gleeful killing?

What priest was killed and how did you deduce glee in the way he was executed?

kunleweb:
When sheiks or imams are killed with delight as priests please let me know. Till then Christianity is under attack

And what makes you think those Muslim clerics who lost their lives were killed in pity and not delight.

Boko Haram regards anyone who speaks against them as an enemy. If you like, call yourself the Sultan of Sokoto. If you are against them, you are an infidel.

DAVE5:
Hmmnn, I concur with you, better still I also concur with him as well, anything that would bring progress to us all is a welcomed development

If it profit Christian in Nigeria, trust me it would also profit everybody cos Nigerian christians are all for progress of all whether or not you agree

I don't agree with the highlighted.

The average Nigerian Christian is selfish through and through.

kunleweb:
I don't confuse been liberal with being stupeed when the leader of another region/state/religion is killed on multiple occasions, that religion is under attacked. If you can't recognise the truth, how the can you speak it

There are no evidences that more Christians have been killed than Muslims. Aside Chibok and one or two other villages, many villages in Maiduguri are dominated by Muslims. If you count the number of villages that have been attacked, you will realize that Muslims have suffered more than Christians since 2011.

Moreover, there is no pattern to Boko Haram killings. Initially, they were targeting policemen and soldiers, then they bombed churches and then they bombed mosques, and then they slaughtered students from a government school (not a religious institution), and they bombed bus stations and markets, then they target Muslim leaders.

Go and check the timeline of Boko Haram attacks and see if there is a pattern that suggests that Christians are the targets.

kunleweb:
I'll speka for Christians as I do. You may speka for Muslims. I'm yet to see muslim leaders violated. Secondly, it's the Christina support the administration gets that's the name of the matter hence those who provided support are necessitated to-do the needful. I'm not a Muslim appeaser. Sorry. I speka for my kingdom. You may for theirs as you see fit. For me, judgement must begin in the house of God

Unlike you, I will speak for every human being because that is what Jesus Christ would do. Religion has divided us but it doesn't mean we should stay behind the divides and forget that there are Muslims who have lost their lives to Boko Haram.

They may not be Christians. But they were human beings. They were as much victims of a beast called Boko Haram as the Christians were.

In 2016 or thereabout, Boko Haram bombed a mosque and killed the Muslim worshippers who had come for the early morning prayer. Those people were human beings. Muslim is just a label.

kunleweb:
When certain people kidnapped a mixture of Muslims and Christians. Only a Christian was held captive

Many Muslims have been held as well. Only a misinformed person would believe that Boko Haram is entirely driven by religion or religious convictions. It is a terror group, and its ultimate goal is to spread terror. Leah would have been released if she had renounced her faith. The group did not seem interested in any of the girls, at least not as much as they were in the Chibok girls. So, they allowed the girls go as soon as they renounced their faith. They did not even attempt to force the girls to learn the Quran as they did with the Chibok girls. As long as you renounced your Christian faith (they didn't care if it came from the heart), they let you go. They let many of the other girls go. But kept Leah because she wouldn't renounce her faith. They probably would have also let her go or even murdered her if the uproar that greeted her continued captivity did not arise.

When certain persons kidnap the leader of another religion, it doesn't require soothsaying to understand what it clearly implies.

It doesn't necessarily mean that the act is driven by religious convictions. The emir of Gwoza was a Muslim yet he was attacked by Boko Haram and killed. Many Islamic clerics have been attacked and killed, and many mosques have been bombed. Boko Haram will go against anyone who opposes their ideologies, even if that person were a Muslim.

Even Europe released a memo less than two weeks ago about systemic killing of Christians even under the watch of security agencies.

Who is Europe? Do you mean the European Union?

The release of close to 1000 murderers who took innocent people's life is clear indicative to Tell some people the government belongs to them and they can do and undo and nothing would happen. Since this administration came in, mention cases where we've had successful convictions in clear cases of murder,ethnic cleansing and genocide

Many alleged Boko Haram members have been released by the law due to a lack of evidence against them. And there are the ones who were found guilty who have gotten even life sentences. There were the repentant ones who were deradicalized and reintegrated into society. This is bad strategy, it doesn't mean the government is for/in support of Boko Haram. The intention of the government was to encourage the other fighters to lay down their arms and embrace peace. Think of it like a peace offering. I feel it is a bad strategy, and that there might be better strategies. But to use this to accuse the government of favoring Boko Haram is rather shallow.

Buhari is trying.

Those sponsoring all these insecurities will get it soon. Their punishment is never asleep.

Just because Baba did so well by taming Boko Haram and reducing it to an unsophisticated group that only attacks villages and kidnap people, they are not happy. They want a chaotic country. They want Buhari to resign so that they can have unrestrained access to the national cake.

All I know is that even this nonsense will pass and Baba and Nigeria will come out in one piece. We survived the recession, and we have more than tamed Boko Haram. Many kidnappers have also been arrested. It is only a matter of time before their sponsors die a painful death because I know that it would be almost impossible to get them to confess to their crimes.

All those big men who masterminded the killing of those policemen by soldiers so that a kidnap kingpin could escape. Your end will come one day.

PHijo:
Well, APC's 5 years have been worse!

No time under PDP did over 6 million lose their jobs.
Moreso, many of those who destroyed PDP are the dominant forces in APC!

People like Uzodinma, Ngige, Sylvia, Amaechi, el-Rufai etc were all members of PDP.

Instead of PDP, the political class would have been more appropriate.

How can you prove that 6 million people lost their jobs under APC?

I have trashed this countless times here. Unemployment is not the same as job loss. For instance, if we have records that in Q2 of 2015, about 2 million people became unemployed, does that mean that 2 million people lost their jobs? People become unemployed for many reasons other than job loss. Some leave their jobs for reasons best known to them. Some lose their jobs because of their own negligence (which then is not a fault of government or the economy).

Imagine, some lecturers have also lost their jobs because they could not control their sexual urges. Now, this number of ràndy lecturers might be captured in the unemployment pool. They have become unemployed, but does it mean they lost their jobs because of the poor economy?

This is unlike under PDP where government directly took people's jobs away from them without any compensation. It took an APC government to remember these poorly treated people.

PHijo:
The only time Nigeria dealt with an epidemic was under Jonathan's PDP government!

No thanks to this clueless APC government polio resurfaced.

You have every right to hate PDP but it is disingenuous trying to make APC look better when it is even worse.

There is no how you can say APC (which has had less than 8 years) is worse than PDP which had 16 years and did nothing extraordinary for which it should be remembered.

mrZENographer:
Experts in China has warned that "The virus is symptomless". Which means victims are not aware they have been infected.

Morever, the Chinese government are trying hard to hide the death counts from the virus inother to save their economy and foreign relations. People there are claiming the deaths are more than a million. And over 20 million infected. Also 4 cities have been quarantined. Meaning they can't go out of the city. They are to stay home

Another person also claimed that he read from a secret forum that the Chinese govt are gathering the bodies in large trucks to a massive dump pit. And camouflaging as electricians. And work at night.

It is just like the Lassa fever. It can be symptomless. But they are not as deadly as the Ebola.

Forget the conspiracy theory. The coronavirus spreads quickly just like the Lassa but it doesn't kill as quickly.

popsy2:
China, with a much more advanced health care system has her hands full and so far, has been unable to check the spread of this novel virus. Nigeria, with almost zero health infrastructure and whose leaders travel to Britain for ailments as elementary as headache is boastful and confident that they can do what China hasn't been able to do.
God forbid that this virus should find its way to our shores, because it would ravage the land.

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It doesn't come close to the Ebola. So, if we were able to manage the Ebola, coronavirus is a simple issue.

And just so you know, our ministry of health has been praised worldwide for its ability to tame Ebola.

Sunnycliff:
Pray we don't have a single case for it, because this one no be by propaganda.

If China with all its technology and finance is yet to curb that coronavirus, I wonder our fate when it befalls us because it's like the virus worse pass Ebola. And this our APC government na propaganda and scam government e be.

The coronavirus does not even come close to the Ebola.

If we could manage the much deadlier Ebola, we should be able to manage coronavirus.

Very wicked, and heartless people. They call themselves men of God while all they do is eye people's hard-earned money.

They want to take all that money away from these young men and women who are just finding their feet in life.

Even to beat a goat is bad, let alone a human being, let alone your significant other.

Your wife/husband are your partners, not your children or animals. Even in today's world, beating children this way is tantamount to physically abusing them.

247naijamedia:
https://www.ghsplash.com/three-nigerian-stowaways-land-in-ghana-instead-of-spain-photos/

Safely land in Ghana

I always wonder how the guy always looks big in pictures.

When I saw him sometime back, he looked really small beside me.

Agugbadin:
Your point is valid, a renowned preacher, teacher who have positively impacted on many lives should not have been denied visa. Bishop has been visiting USA as far back as in the 1980's to attend Pastor Kenneth Hagins program.

Which lives has he impacted? He is a false teacher who perverts the gospel for pecuniary gains.

The United States is far less religious than Nigeria. They don't give a damn about a prosperity preacher who built his physical wealth from teaching "things of the spirit".

They don't even give their own prosperity preachers any preferential treatment. Is it one wealthy prosperity preacher from the poverty capital of the world that they would give a visa to automatically?

FrLukas:
Where's that guy that was arguing blindly with me and posting nonsense link from Al Jazeera.

BluntBoy oya come here and read.

Iranu.

The first time, you wrote that no perpetrator of killings in the Middle Belt zone had been arrested, I countered that.

You shifted the goalpost and fixated on charges and convictions. I showed you proof.

Now, the issue is about numbers.

Do you know the type of people who behave like this?

Dishonest people.

Make up your mind. Are you interested in arrested perpetrators, convicted perpetrators, or the number of convicted perpetrators?

FrLukas:
And you should be taken seriously?

Posting a link that says Nigerian courts release 475 Boko Haram suspects and prosecuted 45 Boko Haram suspects? Really? Since 2009 till 2020 and tens of thousands of death after, just 45?

Aren't you just a clown? Very funny indeed 'cept that I missed the humour.

How about killer herdsmen, how many have been arrested and charged to court?

Why didn't you bother to follow the links and read the reasons why some of them were acquitted of all charges?

And it is not every time that Boko Haram members are taken alive. Many are killed. Many of those arrested where arrested based on suspicions, and because there were no evidences, the court acquitted them.

You think the law is emotional like you. You win cases with evidence, not suspicions or speculations.

You can't alert the police or military to your neighbor simply because he keeps late night. You have no evidence that he is a Boko Haram member, and you expect the law to take your speculations as facts.

You need to have your head seriously examined.

FrLukas:
Let's settle this once and for all bro. I don't like long arguments.

Post a link to any online report where it was shown that Fulani herdsmen who were arrested were charged to court, sentenced to death for murder and the sentence carried out.

Also, a link to any Boko Haram member being sentenced to death in a Nigerian court.

I'll be grateful for the links.

In the meantime please feast your eyes on these...

You shouldn't be taken seriously

Initially, you wrote that no perpetrator of killings in the Middle Belt had been arrested. Now, you are more interested in knowing how many perpetrators had been convicted.

Anyway, read this:

After the first phase of the trial in October, 45 Boko Haram fighters were sentenced to between three to 31 years in jail, while about 500 people were discharged.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/02/nigerian-court-releases-475-boko-haram-suspects-180218160036240.html

FrLukas:
That there aren't notable people worthy of mention in your family shouldn't make you think the same is applicable to everyone you come across.

You don't know anything about the person behind this moniker to make such silly statements like you've made.

We may share cyberspace here on Nairaland doesn't mean we share the same station in life.

You have decided to close your eyes to Buhari's atrocities and damning silence in the face of the rampage caused by his ethnic people.

Miyetti Allah, that useless organisation of backward and stone age men are issuing ultimatums and spewing words capable of causing untold havoc on the unity of the nation, yet Buhari is pretending to be blind.

If it were a Southern organisation, the DSS , the military, the police, the NSCDC, Ex-Men, Man-O-War, Boys Scout of Nigeria and Girls Guide will have visited them with serious consequences in the offing.

Thousands of people are murdered in the Middle Belt zone, yet not one perpetrator has been arrested, charged to court and sentenced to death.

Keep living in denial and rooting for him. Soon, it might be your turn. We will be here to help you dig up your posts.

You are too emotional.

And it is not possible for you to even have minimal leadership skills. Imagine you were Buhari, just one small abuse, and you will rain down missiles on everyone.

Now, calm down, and and go and get more information about the killings in the Middle Belt zone. You claim that no perpetrator has been arrested, but it is obvious that this claim is based on emotions.

Didn't you accuse Buhari of ethnocentric bias? Yes, you did. But it is not like you are devoid of bias yourself. You have no proof of anything, yet you write that thousands of people have been killed without any of the perpetrators arrested.

When last did you hear bombings perpetrated by Boko Haram? Did the military not burst a kidnapping syndicate in Benue last year? Do you know how many Fulani herdsmen that have been arrested since 2015?

emidika:
PLEASE FELLOW NAIRA LANDER KINDLY ASSIST, MY LITTLE HAVE THIS BELOW SSCE RESULT, WHAT CAN SHE BE ABLE TO USE IT For?

CRS= A1
GOVT= C4
LIT IN ENG= D7
CIVIC EDU= B3
ENGLISH= C6
MATHS= B2
BIOLOGY= B3
COMPUTER= A1
COSMETOLOGY=C6.

She really needs your advice pls.b4 now she wanted to do law but help check anything she can do with the above result. Regards.

It is a subject combination for the Faculty of Arts and Humanities, and the Faculty of Law. She can even get into some courses in the Social Sciences.

But her Literature grade is very poor. She stands no chance, not even with money. No school will give her admission with that poor grade in Literature.

Let her resit, and if she makes her papers in one sitting, she can put in for any Arts and Humanities courses, or put in for Law or some Social Sciences courses that cross with the Arts such as Sociology, Psychology, Political science, and Public administration

But first thing first: she must make at least a credit in Literature to stand a chance. If not for that Literature, her result would have been fine.

FrLukas:
I would never entrust my roadside kiosk to be managed by Buhari. Don't care if he was Secretary General of the UN before.

No other president in the history of Nigeria has shown so much ethnocentric bias.

Naa...he is a complete failure. The blood shed in Plateau and Benue states are on his head and the head of his children and their children after them.

This is not a curse. It is a statement of fact.

You people are always quick to judge.

What makes you think the president is happy about the killings? Do Plateau and Benue not have governors? Must the president take the blame for everything?

You people are the ones who are rather playing tribalism with serious issues. You think he is ethnocentric, but there is really no proof of it.

Even if you say you wouldn't trust him to manage your kiosk, it doesn't change the fact that he is far more experienced in leadership than anyone you may directly know in your family or beyond. When it comes to leadership, nothing beats experience, not even PhD degrees.

As a matter of fact, in life, experience is very valuable. If you can't trust Buhari (with all his experience) to manage your business, then you (who does not have any leadership experience close to Buhari's) would be far incapable of running the business.

PapaBaby:
Only in Nigeria would you have a man not qualified to be a gate man, but yet presiding over the affairs of millions

A retired general is someone you mentioned as not qualified to be a gate man?

Do you know how many leadership positions the man has held? He was once governor, minister, head of state, and now president, among many other leadership positions.

Supposing he doesn't even have any academic certificates, his experiences surpass all certificates necessary to be president of a country.

This Nigerian Police Force ehn. SMH...

Who gave them the right to kill unarmed suspects whom they already had in their custody?

Those men were still suspects for Christ's sake. How did we get this unprofessional police force? Everyone involved in the murder of the suspects should be treated like a murderer.