₦airaland Forum

alBHAGDADI:
No, you lots didn't think it through when you always state that Jesus never tithe. How do you expect the King who receives tithe to now pay tithe, same way you can't expect the Holy Lamb to now make lamb sacrifices?

Can you now see how silly your logic is?

alBHAGDADI:
Jesus also never sacrificed any lamb at the temple. Does that mean he was against lamb sacrifices then? He didn't tithe doesn't translate to him speaking against tithing.

Mintum:
Enemies of Christianity can gather and give him the award of Antichrist of the year. We don't care

gidjah:
He is from a poor South American nation buying jets and living in affluence and no one stalking him negatively about this rather praising him and his feats left right and centre but If one man of God improves to the next level they start antagonising and hating as if they were personally robbed at gun point to his advantage. Celebrate or encourage a progressive to do better and your would surely no in view

STEVEOTheLIGHT:
What we should try and understand is that there are many more people in this country that are ready to do anything just to get people talking about them, one of them is Freeze, he knows the truth, he's just doing all these to draw attention, and their are many people like him who we still say or do more than this just to stumble in fame

1StopRudeness:
Exactly...u just made all the points, the human nature hasn't changed...man has always been sinful, don't forget greedy, self-centred, haters if their neighbour.....invariably, if u can't use force and cajoling of hell and misfortune to make a man change those sinful nature, how can u cajole him to part with his hard earned money. For him to do that means he will stop beign greedy, self-centred, thinking of the development of a church rather than himself.....and from ur point, no sermon has been able to make man change..
In summary people give becos it comes from their heart..yeah...mayb a couple of sermons make them see the need...but the Nigerians I know are not smiling ooooooo....Nigerians wey dey burn people for street for stealing phone....

pulsa:
Hey dude continue your story on how you became blunt boy, I will like to know, I saw your post on that 16 year old boy supporting the church, checked your profile and got hooked on that story.

ontarioissauga:
.. bite off more than it can chew.

1StopRudeness:
I get you but the problem here is u want me to see this matter from your direction only.....and I'm looking it from ur context and in an objective way....

You claim people are paying cos the tactics is that they are threatening people with hell ither stuff like misfortune....so people are afraid and they are paying .
right??
However it's the same hell that is used to preach as the outcome of fornicating and other sins these pastors use in preaching....but it doesn't change people from commuting sin..they don't do what their pastor say at the end of the day....
See....u can't say the forcing is the tactics/reason for one thing but isn't for another thing....if pastors can use hell to force people to pay, it would have also stopped people from committing sin and love their neighbour as the Bible say and the world would have become a better place

damlek7576:
In my opinion.
number 1..Anti pastor freeze is trying to be popular by criticizing men of God
number 2..Churches in nigeria are more very effective than the Government,in terms of university...COVENANT UNIVERSITY IS AMONG TOP 3000 UNIVERSITY IN THE WORLD ,

In my conclusion churches sometimes provide social amenities to their member,when govt fails
...The impact on churches can never be overemphasize in the worldd..so mr freeze shut your mouth

1StopRudeness:
From ur context..if that forcing is actually working, we won't have thieves, fornicators, adultrous people around anymore....a lot of people don't really do what their pastors says,the same hell and misfortune is the out come of committing sin...and people still do those things without a single care.....those that give only give because they seem to think it's the reason they have more....not because anyone is forcing anybody by whatever means
419ers are arrested because someone eventually went to report....they didn't get value for weteva the fraudster promised.....
But these people giving keep going back to give for reasons meat known to them . perhaps, until some goes to report a pastor took money from him or her in exchange for something specific, then an arrest can be made...

VictorRomanov:
Obviously, boy, you don't know what the word coerce means. Look it up in a good dictionary.

hakeem4:
i do not think you understand his point. since the government is not capable of handling the affairs of government owned university they should sell it to private people or companies who have the capability to manage it

@bolded does not make any sense. silverbird is doing fine

doggedfighter:
Oh that misleading line used coerce and subtly intimidate the mind of the gullible.

djon78:
Read Galatians 3 stop misquoting the Scripture.

Galatians 3 vs

13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.



Christ redeemed us from the law, why
That the blessings of Abraham may come on the gentiles.

Notice we are redeemed to receive Abraham's blessings

But Abraham paid tithe to Melchizedek 400years before the law.

Tithe predates the law

malvisguy212:
Genesis 28:20-22

. 20 And Jacob vowed a vow, saying, If God will be with me, and will keep me in this way that I go, and will give me bread to eat, and raiment to put on, 21 So that I come again to my father's house in peace; then shall the LORD be my God: 22 And this stone, which I have set for a pillar, shall be God's house: and of all that thou shalt give me I WILL SURELY GIVE THE TENTH UNTO THEE.

OH I forget , Abraham also tithe to Melchizedek 200 years before the mosaic law was given.

fuckboys:
we fought the war with British not Nigeria, if we had fought the war with Nigeria we would have wiped out hausas and yorubas 50 years ago

Cogs:
Did you follow all my comments? We are on same side na!
No ish my guy, I just feel sorry for this @spongeisback guy

Cogs:
What is this one saying, is it that you need glasses or you can't comprehend properly?

Did you not see that I wrote, he that is faithful in little is faithful in more? Do you not know how commandment came before the tithing one ni? Or did you think I jumped the scriptures?

You better receive sense quickly!

I understand you oo, but am sure you didn't get that the point I was trying to make is that it is not be how perfect you behave or how you keep the commandment from within your abilities. It is of God that we will and to do good.
And God blesses who he choose to bless!


Align yourself my guy!

jconsulting:
The main issue I have with Nigerians is that they so as if they were there when they wrote the bible or they even wrote it together with Moses from Genesis, all these people opposing paying of tithe are either jealous or are frustrated , they are jealous of the flamboyant life some pastors are living, imagine somebody said Bishop OYEDEPO use tithe money to build University which the members cannot afford to send their children there , my answer to them is ,such members should start saving their tithe for the tuition of their children . If pastors are wearing rags am sure this issues will not come forth

malvisguy212:
Matthew 23:23
Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices—mint, dill and cumin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law—justice, mercy and faithfulness. YOU SHOULD HAVE PRACTICE THE LATTER WITHOUT NEGLECTING THE FORMER.


Jacob pay tithe to God ,3 hundred years before the mosaic law was given.

Cogs:
He that is faithful in little is also faithful in much...
It is not by our ability to keep laws, but by God's grace that we did not merit that we got through Jesus Christ our Lord!

Angelfrost:
Another unintelligent response from this half-baked charlatan that believes his own hype... Not a fan of Freeze, but common sense tells me he is merely trying to sanitize the church, not totally destroy it...
A true believer knows that a Godly church can never be pulled down by lies, except it indulges in them.
Those who hate Freeze so much, my questions remain: Has he been heretical? Are his Biblical statements without merit?

Cogs:
Someone has done it already na,
PROV. 3:9–10)
Honor the Lord with your wealth and with the firstfruits of all your produce; then your barns will be filled with plenty, and your vats will be bursting with wine.

Leviticus 27:30: (The tithe is introduced into law) A tithe of everything from the land, whether grain from the soil or fruit from the trees, belongs to the LORD; it is holy to the LORD.

Leviticus 27:32: The entire tithe of the herd and flock-- every tenth animal that passes under the shepherd's rod-- will be holy to the LORD.

Numbers 18:21: I give to the Levites (ministers) all the tithes…in return for the work they do while serving (the Lord).

Malachi 3:7–9: Return to me, and I will return to you," says the LORD Almighty. "But you ask, 'How are we to return?' "Will a man rob God? Yet you rob me. "But you ask, 'How do we rob you?' "In tithes and offerings. You are under a curse-- the whole nation of you-- because you are robbing me.

mayze:
Nice..you made sense..personal conviction by the holy spirit is what matters.

mhizroyalty:
So who are the false Teachers ? Cos the last time I checked no Pastor has ever forced any member to pay tithes, tithing is a personal thing .
And in case you need bible scriptures that talked about tithing let me drop these few scriptures for you so you can sleep over them
GEN. 14:19–20)
And he blessed him and said,
“Blessed be Abram by God Most High,
Possessor of heaven and earth;
and blessed be God Most High,
who has delivered your enemies into your hand!”
And Abram gave him a tenth of everything.

(PROV. 3:9–10)
Honor the Lord with your wealth and with the firstfruits of all your produce; then your barns will be filled with plenty, and your vats will be bursting with wine.

mayze:
God has not made anyone judge over the other..and you cant fight for God..God will judge everyone according to his/her works.are you perfect in your own ways?what people do with 10% of their income shouldn't be anyone''s headache..

jconsulting:
Either you pay tithe or not the church of God will continue to grow ,my advise​ for those opposing paying of tithe " please stop paying your tithe and leave those that are paying alone biko.

mhizroyalty:
I have nothing against Him he should Mind his business about the tithes issue and leave Judgement for God at least he has made his point he should leave the rest for God

lesbiconverter:
Matthew 22:15-22

Verse 17. [Is it lawful to give tribute unto Caesar?] Tribute was the tax paid to the Roman government.
[Caesar] The Roman emperor. The name Caesar, after the time of Julius Caesar, became common to all the emperors, as Pharaoh was the common name of all the kings of Egypt. The "Caesar" who reigned at this time was Tiberius-a man distinguished for the grossest vices and most disgusting and debasing sensuality.

Verse 18. [Jesus perceived their wickedness] This must have been done by his power of searching the heart, and proves that he was omniscient. No more man has the power of discerning the motives of others.
[Tempt ye me] Try me, or endeavor to lead me into difficulty by an insidious question.
[Hypocrites] Dissemblers. Professing to be candid inquirers, when their only object was to lead into difficulty. See the notes at Matthew 6:2.

Verse 19. [The tribute-money] The money in which the tribute was paid. This was a Roman coin. The tribute for the temple service was paid in the Jewish shekel; that for the Roman government in foreign coin. Their having that coin about them, and using it, was proof that they themselves held it lawful to pay the tribute; and their pretensions, therefore, were mere hypocrisy.
[A penny] A Roman denarius, worth about 14 cents = 7 d (circa 1880's).

Verse 20. [This image] The likeness of the reigning prance was usually struck on the coins.
[Superscription] The name and titles of the emperor.

Verse 21. [Render, therefore, to Caesar...] Caesar's image and name on the coin proved that it was his. It was proper, therefore, to give it back to him when he called for it. But while this was done, Jesus took occasion to charge them, also, to give to God what he claimed. This may mean either,

1. The annual tribute due to the temple service, implying that paying tribute to Caesar did not free them from the obligation to do that; or,

2. That they should give their hearts, lives, property, and influence all to God, as his due.

Verse 22. [They marveled] They had been foiled in their attempt. Though he had apparently decided in favor of the Herodians, yet his answer confounded both parties, and wholly prevented the use which they intended to make of it. It was so wise; it so clearly detected their wickedness and foiled their aim, that they were confounded, and retired covered with shame.