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Christianity EtcRe: Was Man Originally Created To Live & Die Or Live Forever? by Boomark(m): 10:24pm On Dec 09, 2012
obadiah777: I THINK YOU ARE DRUNK IS WHAT I THINK grin
grin
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Christ The Servant Of God: Trinity Debunked Again by Boomark(op): 4:52pm On Dec 09, 2012
frosbel: Thanks for this Bookmark. I will Bookmark this article grin

Anyway , the simple question is , how can a Father be his own SON and a SON be his Father at the same time.

I mean common guys, this is simple logic !

Problem is , when we begin to form theology on matters so clearly laid out in scripture , into a complex web of impossible to understand logic, we end up confusing not only ourselves but also other newbies to the faith.

Jesus Christ was neither GOD nor an angel , he was and is the Son of GOD, the Messiah and the Christ.
grin

I want them to see it. Most people are not aware. They will see it as an insult when you say it but are shocked when they see it from the scripture. Some will also twist what is clear into what is not clear. I don't know whose purpose they are serving, God or Man.

All serve the Father.
Christianity EtcRe: Was Man Originally Created To Live & Die Or Live Forever? by Boomark(m): 12:43pm On Dec 09, 2012
obadiah777: BUT YOU DO ERR. GOD DOES NOT DEAL WITH THE FLESH. HE DEALS WITH THE SOUL. ANY DEATH IN THE BIBLE IS REFERING TO THE SOUL. BUT THE CARNAL MIND THINKS IT IS REFERING TO FLESH. MAN IS CARNAL, GOD IS SPIRITUAL. GOD DOES NOT DEAL IN FLESH. ALL DEATH IN THE BIBLE SPEAKS OF SPIRITUAL DEATH, EXCEPT WHEN SPECIFIED ( AND IT WILL BE SPECIFIED IF IT IS TALKING ABOUT THE FLESH, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE YOU HAVE DEATH REFERING TO THE FLESH IN STATEMENTS LIKE 'MY PEOPLE WILL LIVE TO BE AS OLD AS TREES BEFORE THEY PASS ON' OR ' THE LIFETIME OF MY PEOPLE WILL BE 120 YEARS BECAUSE THEY ARE TOO SINFUL' <<<< THOSE WILL BE STATEMENTS REFERING TO FLESH. IT HAS TO BE SPECIFIED. OTHERWISE IT IS REFERING TO THE SOUL. lipsrsealed
You do err because you don't understand the scriptures. Learn from Christ. God dealt with Him in the flesh as a man, a perfect one for that matter. In line with that see how we are going to be transformed.

1 Corinthians 15:53-54 (KJV)
53 For this corruptible must put on
incorruption, and this mortal must
put on immortality. 54 So when
this corruptible shall have put on
incorruption, and this mortal shall
have put on immortality, then shall
be brought to pass the saying that
is written , Death is swallowed up
in victory.

Try and refute them. But if you can't, you can call it rubbish as usually so we can move on to the next. grin
Christianity EtcRe: Was Man Originally Created To Live & Die Or Live Forever? by Boomark(m): 12:24pm On Dec 09, 2012
obadiah777: I NO GET
CRAWCRAW. THE ONE I GET IS
NOT CONTAGIOUS. IT IS CALLED
LAPALAPA
obadiah777: INDEED LOL. YOU GET HAWKERS IN NIGERIA HAWKING LAPALAPA CREAM. LAPALAPA CREAM IS UBIQUITOUS. WE NEED TO GET BOOKMARK SOME OF THAT CREAM. HE HAS LAPALAPA OF THE MOUTH, JUDGING FROM ALL THE RUBBISH HE SPEWS grin grin
I wonder where you contacted this thing you want to infect me with. wink
Christianity EtcRe: Was Man Originally Created To Live & Die Or Live Forever? by Boomark(m): 12:14pm On Dec 09, 2012
obadiah777: shocked grin WHAT A LOAD OF RUBBISH. BOOKMARK HAS BEEN READING TOO MANY JACK AND THE BEANSTALK grin grin
Hahaha.

May be because am good at imaging things. Let me give you another rubbish for ya consumption.

I saw a bird on a high tension electric cable resting peacefully while there is light. So i began to imagine that since human beings can be killed by electrocution, may be in a perfect world we can actually play with live cables and no shaking. Don't you think so brah?
tongue grin
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Christ The Servant Of God: Trinity Debunked Again by Boomark(op): 11:27am On Dec 09, 2012
seriallink: Nice one brah Boomark! Subscribing!!!
Thanks brah.

I told someone that Christ is the servant of God His Father, he said " make you no talk that thing again o, the Father and the Son are inseparable."

I had to go home, gather all the quotes i know and send to Him as a text. Let it deal with him abi him deal with it. He is still quite about it since then, i guess they are still dealing with each other.
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Christ The Servant Of God: Trinity Debunked Again by Boomark(op): 11:17am On Dec 09, 2012
ijawkid: And also his servant at the same time..........

Isaiah 53:1-12 prophesied long in advance that Yahwehs servant(Jesus) is whom he will use to redeem mankind..........

_______________________________
Verses 11 and 12 in particular was emphatic about that.....

11 After he has suffered,
he will see the light of life[d] and be
satisfied[e];
by his knowledge[f] my righteous "SERVANT" will
justify many,
and he will bear their iniquities.
12 Therefore I will give him a portion among
the great,[g]
and he will divide the spoils with the strong,
[h]
because he poured out his life unto death,
and was numbered with the transgressors.
For he bore the sin of many,
and made intercession for the
transgressors.
....
Brother m, that prophesy is true. Christ our Lord is the righteous servant of our God. Corner corner no dey am.

wink
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Christ The Servant Of God: Trinity Debunked Again by Boomark(op): 11:05am On Dec 09, 2012
Isa 49:5-6

And now the LORD says—
5 he who formed me in the
womb to be his servant

to bring Jacob back to him
and gather Israel to
himself,
for I am[a] honored in the eyes of
the LORD
and my God has been my
strength—
he says: 6
“It is too small a thing for you to be
my servant

to restore the tribes of
Jacob
and bring back those of
Israel I have kept.
I will also make you a light for the
Gentiles,
that my salvation may
reach to the ends of the earth.”


The apostles are very consistent in quoting from the scripture as it is...no twisting at all. This is their quote:

Acts 13:46-47
King James Version (KJV)
46 Then Paul and Barnabas waxed
bold, and said, It was necessary
that the word of God should first
have been spoken to you: but
seeing ye put it from you, and
judge yourselves unworthy of
everlasting life, lo, we turn to the
Gentiles.
47 For so hath the Lord
commanded us, saying, I have set
thee to be a light of the Gentiles,
that thou shouldest be for salvation
unto the ends of the earth.


They know that Christ is the servant of the Most High, the God they serve and not His equal. He has choosen Christ to serve Him.
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Christ The Servant Of God: Trinity Debunked Again by Boomark(op): 10:44am On Dec 09, 2012
nedu2000: John 3:16.....for God so loved the world that He sent His only begotten "SON"..........versions of the bible vary as 'servant' can signify anyone ready to do someone else bidding. I for example is a servant to my father 'cause I do his bidding,but doesn't take away the fact that I'm still his son
Yes as far as you are doing the biddings of your father as a son and servant at the same time, you will always be his subject, 1Cor 15:28. You must do his biddings else you disobey him.
Christianity EtcJesus Christ The Servant Of God: Trinity Debunked Again by Boomark(op): 10:10am On Dec 09, 2012
To many, this might be new. Many will say "How can it be...?" It is not in line with what they teach you But the truth is that Jesus is the servant of the Almighty God(the Father). This is what the scripture says.

NKJV
Act 3:13 "The God of Abraham, Isaac, and
Jacob, the God of our fathers,
glorified His Servant Jesus,
whom
you delivered up and denied in the
presence of Pilate, when he was
determined to let [Him] go.


Act 3:26 "To you first, God, having raised up
His Servant Jesus,
sent Him to bless
you, in turning away every one [of
you] from your iniquities."

v13 showed who the God of our forefathers is and that His servant is Jesus Christ. Not His equal.

De 6:4
New International Version
(©1984)
Hear, O Israel: The LORD
our God, the LORD is one.

The Father is the only one the israelites take as their God. De 6:10 shed more light on this.

To make God equal to His servant is not what the bible teach. It is not what the Holyspirit inspired. Meditate carefully on these things.
Christianity EtcRe: Romans-11 Vs 25 And 2-Thessalonians 2 Vs 3 by Boomark(m): 7:32am On Dec 09, 2012
obadiah777: shocked embarassed WHY DO THOU PERSECUTETH ME BOOKMARK
lipsrsealed
Christianity EtcRe: Why Did GOD Regret Creating Humans by Boomark(m): 3:48am On Dec 09, 2012
Ubenedictus: again i get this point, adversary is simply one wu oppose God and seriallink, obadiah or ubenedictus may b discribed as such IF they oppose God. But again i cant deny that there is a specific adversary spoken of in d bible, d one all oda "adversary" imitate, if lies is opposed to God, d liar is an adversary, but he is only imitating a principal adversary d one called "d fada of lies"
Welldone!
This is how satan entered Judas and used him to betray Jesus. Not a permanent creature in every body.

Jn 13:27
King James 2000 Bible
(©2003)
And after the morsel
Satan entered into him.
Then said Jesus unto him,
What you do, do quickly.
Christianity EtcRe: Was Man Originally Created To Live & Die Or Live Forever? by Boomark(m): 2:04am On Dec 09, 2012
seriallink: @Buzugee and others.

Brothers, I need your ears here.

If man was originally created to live forever and hadn't sinned, we all know that causes of death such as diseases/illnesses & other inevitable accidents (such as natural disasters) wouldn't have existed!

My question now is, how would man have dealt with cases of anthropogenic harzards such auto/train/plane accidents, industrial accidents and other man made causes of death? My question excludes cases of crimes, terrorism and other man made causes of death which are considered products of sin since the world would have been sinless!

Thanks for your inputs so far!
If you are perfect in cutting grasses with matchete, you will hardly cut your self but its not so with an imperfect cutter.

In a perfect world where the driver and the trekker grin are perfect, they will dodge each other. Some people survive fatal accidents in this world with the limited knowledge we have.

Even if there is an accident, the tree of life will be used to heal the nations, Rev 22.

Though some people would want this tree of life removed so that people can die after 1000 years.

grin impossible!

My opinion brah.
Christianity EtcRe: Was Man Originally Created To Live & Die Or Live Forever? by Boomark(m): 1:31am On Dec 09, 2012
obadiah777: THE MOST CORRECT THING YOU HAVE SAID ALL DAY. I WAS SPEECHLESS AT THE STUPIDITY OF THE POST grin grin
obadiah777: THE MOST CORRECT THING YOU HAVE SAID ALL DAY. I WAS SPEECHLESS AT THE STUPIDITY OF THE POST grin grin
Its stupi'd and irrefutable because you can't twist eternal life.

Switching from physical to spiritual death was easy for you but eternal no gree.

Still on water of life and everlasting life, enjoy this one from your favourite kjv.

John 4:14
King James Version (KJV)
14 But whosoever drinketh of the
water that I shall give him shall
never thirst; but the water that I
shall give him shall be in him a well
of water springing up into
everlasting life.

wink
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Boomark(m): 11:11pm On Dec 08, 2012
italo: You have answered for me. So what matters most is the sincere intention of your heart, more than the way you worship. That is what I have been trying to drum into your thick skull for ages. You finally got it. Praise be to the Holy Spirit! Now who is it than can see the intentions of a man's heart...and his spirit, to know if he is sincerely worshipping God or not? Is it men (like you) or God?

Both! The Holy Trinity is the only true God.

Yes...as I see Jesus as the only true God. And the Holy Spirit too.

The verse says "the Samaritans worshipped God..." Are you trying to say we Catholics worship God too? Did the Samaritans ever deny worshipping idols as Catholics do? The people who are synonymous with the verse above are Christians who still go to babalawos and engage in occult practices, and they abound everywhere. Not faithful Catholics who only know the one true God.
My thick skull have fully understood it. That i should not use idol as prayer aid(like catholics do) but to allow the holy spirit to aid me.

Its not by force to believe what is written in the bible as it. You are free to add and bring in your own doctrine or twist it to suit you.

It is not also by force to stop worshiping the image of the beast. The lake of fire awaits the beast and his servants.
Christianity EtcRe: Pentecostal Christians Existed Before Roman Catholic by Boomark(m): 11:53am On Dec 08, 2012
It seems the "protestee"(catholic) is now the protestant.

SMH!!!
Christianity EtcRe: Was Man Originally Created To Live & Die Or Live Forever? by Boomark(m): 9:00pm On Dec 07, 2012
obadiah777: DOES THAT EVEN MAKE SENSE TO YOU ? YOU HAVE BEEN READING TOO MANY GOLDILUCK AND RAPUNZEL AND JACK AND THE BEANSTALK AND THE GINGERBREAD MAN AND BOOKS OF THESE KINDS. FABLES LOL. YOU NEED HELP BRAH grin
I can see that, that post made you speechless. Its a no escape route post. So learn from it.

tongue grin
Christianity EtcRe: Is Michael The Archangel Really Jesus? (revelation 12:7) by Boomark(m): 5:46pm On Dec 07, 2012
truthislight: @ boomark


is there a hindrance in reading that statement?


he is "the" Elijah
who was to come.


it did not say


he is Elijah who is to come


its like saying


he is the maradona we wanted in our club


^^^

do you understand that?

Not when the same chapter said:


Luke 1:17
New International Version (NIV)
17 And he will go on before the
Lord, in the spirit and power of
Elijah,


who own the power that Elijah made used of
Ok.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Michael The Archangel Really Jesus? (revelation 12:7) by Boomark(m): 5:44pm On Dec 07, 2012
plappville: You know this yet You have been argueing since morning, ignoring all scriptures that interpreted themselves. Even when they are so plain pointing at Christ as the "Angel of the lord". Is it fun to ignore scripture for arguement sake?
I never said God cannot use anybody for His purpose. My stand is that if God has used anybody, i want to see it in the scripture.

Concerning angel of the covenant and angel of the way clearer grin , that is just interpreted as messenger for uniformity sake. Rev made it clear...angel of the churches.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Boomark(m): 5:29pm On Dec 07, 2012
italo: My question will help me understand your question. You surely don't expect me to answer a question I don't understand.

So if you want me to answer, you know what to do.
Let me put it this way.

An Israelite who is sick went to where Moses kept the bronze snake, stood it up and knelt before it. He prayed to God to heal him while he had faith that by looking unto the bronze snake God will heal him through it. Let me say he used the bronze snake as a prayer aid.

Do you think God will be happy with such act?
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Boomark(m):
italo: You surely don't understand Jesus.

John 4:21 “Woman,” Jesus replied, “believe me, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem. 22 You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews. 23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. 24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.”

Why then did Jesus go to a mountain to pray? Why did Jesus go to the temple? Why do you go to sinners to pray for you when you should pray in truth and in spirit? You surely don't know what it means to worship God in truth and in spirit.
v20 shows that samaritans worship in the mountains while the Jews say it should be in Jerusalem. While Christ was trying to tell her that a time is coming when she will be able to worship the Father even at that well, in her kitchen, bathroom, every where in every way...but it must be in spirit and in truth.

I hope you wount reject the truth if i tell you? According to the passage, who do we worship? The Father, Jesus said so. God(The Father) is a spirit and those that will worship Him must do that in spirit(with all ur heart) and in truth(accurate knowledge of Him). Do you regard Him as trinity or as the only true God?

This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you the only true God and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ, jn 17:3. Read acts 3:13 you will see who the God of our forefathers is and who his servant is. Do you know God(the Father) as the one and only true God?

The samaritans fear God but worship idol, 2kings 17:33. This is synonymous to what we are rebuking you people for. You better stop now.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Michael The Archangel Really Jesus? (revelation 12:7) by Boomark(m): 3:48pm On Dec 07, 2012
pastormustwacc: And the winner is?
So tell us your position and what you learnt.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Michael The Archangel Really Jesus? (revelation 12:7) by Boomark(m): 3:36pm On Dec 07, 2012
plappville: @boomark, but John the Baptist said He is not Elijah.
They asked him, "Then who are you? Are you Elijah?" He said, "I am not." "Are you the Prophet?" He answered, "No."

John 1:20, 25.
Mt 11:14
New International Version
(©1984)
And if you are willing to
accept it, he is the Elijah
who was to come.


Luke 1:17
New International Version (NIV)
17 And he will go on before the
Lord, in the spirit and power of
Elijah,
to turn the hearts of the
parents to their children and
the
disobedient to the wisdom of
the
righteous—to make ready a
people
prepared for the Lord.”

place them side by side and study them. John said no, Jesus said yes. John did not even know Christ but Christ knew him.

The bible didn't teach reincarnation but for the will of God to come to pass, it happened the way it happened.
Christianity EtcRe: Was Man Originally Created To Live & Die Or Live Forever? by Boomark(m): 12:39pm On Dec 07, 2012
obadiah777: LOL I SEE YOU DONE HAD ONE TOO MANY OF THAT SACRAMENTAL WINE. YOU DO KNOW YOU ARE QUOTING BOOKMARK THE BELLIGERENT PHARISEE RIGHT ? LOLZ
grin

You this bellicosious gentile. You do err. Always erring!
Christianity EtcRe: Was Man Originally Created To Live & Die Or Live Forever? by Boomark(m): 12:18pm On Dec 07, 2012
Ubenedictus: obadiah say 1000, wow!
My brother i wonder o.
Christianity EtcRe: Was Man Originally Created To Live & Die Or Live Forever? by Boomark(m): 12:15pm On Dec 07, 2012
obadiah777: ETERNAL LIFE MEANS NO MORE DISCONNECTION OF THE SPIRIT FROM GOD AS HAPPENS WHEN PEOPLE SIN.
Eternal life= Everlasting life= forever alive= living to time indefinite.

King James 2000 Bible
(©2003)
And the LORD God said,
Behold, the man is
become as one of us, to
know good and evil: and
now, lest he put forth his
hand, and take also of the
tree of life, and eat, and
live forever:

Adam was prevented from eating from the tree of life because he would have lived forever as a man if he had eaten from eat. Forever here does not mean 1000 yrs which is a limited time and very very infinitesimal compared to trillions of trillions of yrs in eternity.

This is what the water of life and trees of life will do, Rev 22.

Anyone that dies is automatically disconnected from the spirit of God. The spirit of God is the comforter of those alive not of the dead.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Boomark(m): 6:34am On Dec 07, 2012
italo: You mean the Israelite was talking, not just before, but TO the bronze serpent, expecting the sculpture to hear him and then pray for him to God?
You mean you don't know that the bronze snake is the image they looked unto and got healed? So answer the question.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Boomark(m): 6:14am On Dec 07, 2012
italo: How did you know your pastors are "anointed by God"?

Prove that to me first.
pastors whether anointed or 'un-anointed' as long as the person is a human being, he can pray for anyone. Spirits/dead cannot.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Boomark(m): 6:07am On Dec 07, 2012
italo: Were the cherubs of the Ark and the bronze serpent not graven images? Were they not used as prayer and healing aids? Was it not God that commanded that they should be made?

I have not seen the pope before too except on TV. What difference does that make. Have you never asked anyone to pray for you before? Is the person not a despicable sinner like Oritsejafor...or even worse?

Do you think asking for intercession means you don't pray for yourself at all?

How intelligent!
The 2nd person in your trinity brought a message from the 1st person in your trinity and said "now is the time that those that worship God must worship Him in spirit and in truth." why do you chose to disobey them by making graven images as prayer aid?

Seeing pope or a pastor on tv is not an issue. Man can pray for man but the dead or spirits were not given such privilege to pray for man.

No matter how sinful a man is and you go to him to pray for you, once he ask God for forgiveness and went ahead to pray for you, his prayer is acceptable.

Where two or three are gathered in His name he is there in their midst. How can he be in your midst waiting for you to ask Him and you are asking a dead or spirit not approved by God to ask Him.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Boomark(m): 5:35am On Dec 07, 2012
Boomark: if one of the Israelites secretly go to
where Moses kept the bronze
snake and kneel before it
saying "O! Great serpent, bring
me and household healing from
god."


Do you think the person did the right thing and that God will be happy with the person?
Italo please answer the question above.
Christianity EtcRe: Was Man Originally Created To Live & Die Or Live Forever? by Boomark(m): 4:47am On Dec 07, 2012
obadiah777: SHOW ME THE VERSE THAT SAYS ETERNAL LIFE huh
Rom 6:23
King James 2000 Bible
(©2003)

For the wages of sin is
death; but the gift of God
is eternal life through
Jesus Christ our Lord.

Death, whether physical or spiritual no problem for now.

Eternal life: is it physical or spiritual? How long is it going to last?
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Boomark(m): 1:04am On Dec 07, 2012
italo: If a thief like Oritsejafor can pray for you, the we will keep asking the intercession of the Blessed Virgin Mary. Period.

Mary and the saints are not dead but alive. And God commanded the making of Graven images which were used as prayer and healing aids.

Then why do you go to thieves to pray for you?
Don't make God a liar because you are defending your pope and your church. If you are a Christian, you should know that God is the reason you are a Christian not the pope.

Didn't you hear when i said i pray for my self. I have not seen Oritsejafor before except on tv.

But italo, you came back worst than before. The lies and twists are so obvious. I wonder if you're competing with your twin bro.

SMH!!

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