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holyvirgin: @serialkiller you and your anti-catholic thread! Since when do catholics believe other protestants wil go to hell? Haba, i see the likes of you and other pharisees post on how d catholics worshp mary, idols and are hell bound and you turnaround to accuse us? Get a life or may be a job

Hahaha...

Brah seriallink, she don change ur name o. Wetin you dey kill?

obadiah777: BUT YOU DO ERR BROTHER BOOKMARK. YOU DO ERR NOT KNOWING SCRIPTURES. WHEN THE BIBLE SAYS 'FOREVER AND EVER' IT IS NOT A LITERAL STATEMENT. IT IS A BIBLICAL PHRASE WHICH MEANS 'FOR A LONG TIME'. SODOM AND GOMMORAH IS SAID TO BURN FOREVER AND EVER <<<< IS IT STILL BURNING TODAY ? NO. 'FOREVER AND EVER' IS BIBLICAL LINGO FOR 'A LONG TIME'. YOU DO ERR

Eternal life nko? What lingo did your bible give to it?

italo: But you always say we shouldn't go through anyone, that Jesus is the only way to the Father. Why then do you go pray to your pastor?



As long as I know, Mary is alive in heaven. If you can pray to thieves like Oritsejafor, we will keep asking the intercession of the Blessed Virgin Mary.

Besides, you have no right to accuse someone of doing something that is unbiblical. Nowhere in the Bible does anyone accuse anyone of doing something that is "unbiblical" so what you are doing is unbiblical.

Twister!

Did vicky say she pray to her pastor? Don't you know the difference between "praying for" and "praying to." Me i pray for my self without any graven image as aid.

If you say i accuse u, sorry. But i hereby rebuke you that asking the dead or a spirit to pray for humans is not what Christ and His apostles taught us. I rebuke you again to stop using graven images as prayer aid. It is idolatry and Yahweh hates it.

I hope you know who is called Yahweh? He is the only true God. Worship Him in truth and in spirit through our Lord Jesus Christ.

Christ is not a scary being. He wants you to come to God through Him. That's why our God made Him our Highpriest instead of the levites/priests/prophets. That He will mediate between us and Him(God)

ijawkid: Buzu boy.......

I hope you know sometimes the KJV can be blunt.........

You need to take with you a dagger(NIV,GNT,ESV,RSV etc) strapped around your feet lest your KJV gets blunt....lol...

^^hahaha...
My brother he needs daggers.

obadiah777: YOU AND TRUTHISLIGHT NEED TO QUIT READING THAT NIV BIBLE. YALL COMING TO THIS WAR WITH BLUNTED SWORDS. YOUR TWO EDGED SWORD NEEDS SHARPENING. YALL CANT COME TO A GUN FIGHT WITH KATAPAULT. YALL CANT DO THAT. TRY THAT SHARP SWORD. THE KJV, THAT IS

Revelation 22:1-5
King James Version (KJV)

And he shewed me a pure river
of water of life, clear as crystal,
proceeding out of the throne of
God and of the Lamb.
2 In the midst of the street of it,
and on either side of the river, was
there the tree of life, which bare
twelve manner of fruits, and
yielded her fruit every month: and
the leaves of the tree were for the
healing of the nations.
3 And there shall be no more curse:
but the throne of God and of the
Lamb shall be in it; and his servants
shall serve him:
4 And they shall see his face; and
his name shall be in their
foreheads.
5 And there shall be no night there;
and they need no candle, neither
light of the sun; for the Lord God
giveth them light: and they shall
reign for ever and ever.

This is the kjv.
I believe you can see it clearly that eternal life is eternal life. There is no physical or spiritual eternal life.

truthislight: just watch it befor you teach reincarnation.


^^^

was scary.



Elijah was a human that has lived on earth befor as a human.

Are you saying he did not die?

Elijah and John are two different persons but were propel in similar manner by the spirit of Yahweh.

Lets not accept what is not ok from you because we kept quite.

Just to set the record straight.

Silent can mean consent.

Peace

Mt 11:14
New International Version
(©1984)
And if you are willing to
accept it, he is the Elijah
who was to come.

Luke 1:17
New International Version (NIV)
17 And he will go on before the
Lord, in the spirit and power of
Elijah, to turn the hearts of the
parents to their children and the
disobedient to the wisdom of the
righteous—to make ready a people
prepared for the Lord.”

Not everyone is chosen to fulfil the purpose God wants to accomplish. You can correct me if am wrong.

obadiah777: TRUTHISLIGHT ? YOU WILL LIVE TILL 1000 YEARS IN THE KINGDOM. THATS ENOUGH TIME TO ENJOY ALL THE SUYA AND OFE ONUGBU AND EFO RIRO AND TUWO NDAWA YOU WANT. TRY AND BE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT TIME-SPAN. IT IS FAR BETTER THAN THE AVERAGE OF 80 YEARS WE LIVE NOW

Are you going to get tired of being with God and serving Him because you have enjoyed enough? The rich man needed just a drop of water to be satisfied because he is experiencing what he has not experienced before. Though your stand is the opposite.

What is the gift of eternal life? Eternal life cut short by death whether physical or spiritual even after 1million years is no eternal life.

Truthislight explained it when he described how trees live their life. They regenerate/renew. This is what the river of life will do.

Revelation 22:1-5
New King James Version (NKJV)
The River of Life
And he showed me a pure[a]
river of water of life, clear as
crystal, proceeding from the throne
of God and of the Lamb. 2 In the
middle of its street, and on either
side of the river, was the tree of
life, which bore twelve fruits, each
tree yielding its fruit every month.
The leaves of the tree were for the
healing of the nations. 3 And there
shall be no more curse, but the
throne of God and of the Lamb
shall be in it, and His servants shall
serve Him. 4 They shall see His face,
and His name shall be on their
foreheads. 5 There shall be no night
there: They need no lamp nor light
of the sun, for the Lord God gives
them light. And they shall reign
forever and ever.

v17 show that drinking from the water of life is free.

My broda i can't die when i have free water of life. I would rather dive into that water whenever am feeling headache than give chances to death.

obadiah777: SO I TAKE IT YOU DO NOT ATTEND ANY CHURCH ? WHAT EXACTLY DO YOU BELIEVE IN TRUTHISLIGHT ? ARE YOU A JEHOVAH WICKEDNESS ?

Do not use the name of you God in vain or attach mockery to it. This pharisee gentile!

obadiah777: CREATE JOKES ? NO OOO. THIS IS HOW I SPEAK IN REAL LIFE. I SPEAK AS I TYPE . YEAH I AM NOT KNOCKING SEUNS HUSTLE. THE MAN HAS TO DO WHAT HE HAS TO DO TO SURVIVE. I WAS JUST MAKING AN OBSERVATION, THATS ALL. NOT SURE ANYONE WANNA HEAR WHAT I GOTTA SAY. I KNOW MARTIAN AND BOOKMARK AND TRUTHISLIGHT AND DELAFRUITA WILL LIKE TO SEE ME PERMANENTLY BANNED FROM NAIRALAND

Till 3013!

BARRISTERS: @Boomark,
are you still trying to deny this:

1 thess 4:16....''1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
King James Version (KJV)
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel''

are you denying this glarring proof below?

2 Thessalonians 1:7-8

7 and to give you who are troubled rest with us when the[b] Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels, 8 in[/b] [size=18pt]flaming fire[/size] taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Our own view/standard or Gods direction/standard view, which one should we heed?

Now you agreed to use angel for john and jesus after all? im i right? well!

But you have been accusing me of Cherry/Orange pick until you saw as many as possible humans reffered to as 'angel' in revelation above. anyway,its not about winning an argument but the truth need to be told. ithink without prejudice,i can say that you are honest with what you saw, at least judging with the last post.

had it been that you have agreed to the angel defination itself it should not have taken you this far to accept the concept of an angel(spirit/human),[see this link on WIKIPEDIA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel] see the comment about Malachi there.

all i have been asking you since is, was John and Jesus called angels in what sense? As messengers or as flaming fire angels? Thats when i said their must be uniformity.

2thessalonians 1:7-8 you quoted, is it after or before His coming to earth?

Ubenedictus: wow! So intercession=mediation? Try a theology dictionary, besides intercession is biblical, st paul says "offer intercession..." u need a new english teacher, to pray means to ask, "i pray thee, may i have ur chips" simply means im asking u to give me ur chips. So in correct english protestants PRAY to their pastors for blessings!

We are now catching you twisting people's comments.

Now concerning prayer as you want to use it, protestants pray to(ask) their pastors to PRAY for them to God. This is biblical like you said above.

While Catholics pray to Mary PRAY to God. This is very very unbiblical. There is no where in the bible an image, the dead or a spirit is asked to pray for men.

BARRISTERS: @Boomark

. The two will have to be uniform since they were both called messengers in some translations.

in your post above you are making a case for uniformity in form first between john and jesus, before your own defination which is that 'john must be a spirit creature rather than humans before being eligible to trully appeal to you as or reffered to as 'angel' hence; you said;
[size=14pt] The two will have to be uniform since they were both called messengers in some translations.[/size]

[size=16pt]uniformity 'in form' (first) between john and jesus, is it required as a basis for who is deemed fit to be reffered to as 'angel'?[/size]


will you be surprised again or accept the truth if you actually found out that king james version and almost all bibles agreed to call 'human' angels? precisely leaders delegated to lead the early congregation/churches/assemblies of God people?

now lets find out,Revelation 2:1,3:1,3:14 and 2:8 among many reffered to as angels;

2:1 The [size=16pt]angel of the church Ephesus[/size].

3:1 [size=14pt]The angel of the church of Sardis[/size] …………..is reproved verse(3)

3:14 [size=14pt]the angel of Laodicea[/size] …..rebuked for being neither hot nor cold,
2:8 [size=14pt]The angel of the church of Smyrna[/size].

using the ''bible cc'' http://bible.cc/revelation/2-1.htm that you(boomark) directed me to use,
i found explanations on revelation 2:1 about who 'the angel of the church of ephesus' was

Clarke's Commentary on the Bible
Unto the angel of the Church of Ephesus - By αγγελος, angel, we are to understand the messenger or person sent by God to preside over this Church; and to him the epistle is directed, not as pointing out his state, but the state of the Church under his care. Angel of the Church here answers exactly to that officer of the synagogue among the Jews called שליח ציבור sheliach tsibbur, the messenger of the Church, whose business it was to read, pray, and teach in the synagogue. The Church at Ephesus is first addressed, as being the place where John chiefly resided; and the city itself was the metropolis of that part of Asia. The angel or bishop at this time was most probably Timothy, who presided over that Church before St. John took up his residence there, and who is supposed to have continued in that office till a.d. 97, and to have been martyred a short time before St. John's return from Patmos.

note that you are the one that recommends this bible site to me first, i have been very carefull not to cite works from other site!

King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus[/b] write; These things says he that holds the seven stars in his right hand, who walks in the midst of the seven golden lampstands;

King James Version
[b]To the angel of the church of Ephesus write; These things said he that holds the seven stars in his right hand, who walks in the middle of the seven golden candlesticks;

American Standard Version
To the angel of the church in Ephesus write: These things saith he that holdeth the seven stars in his right hand, he that walketh in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks:

Douay-Rheims Bible
Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write: These things saith he, who holdeth the seven stars in his right hand, who walketh in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks:

Darby Bible Translation
To the angel of the assembly in Ephesus write: These things says he that holds the seven stars in his right hand, who walks in the midst of the seven golden lamps:

Young's Literal Translation
[b]'To the messenger of the Ephesian assembly [/b]write: These things saith he who is holding the seven stars in his right hand, who is walking in the midst of the seven lamp-stands -- the golden:

can you tell us who the angel was? expecially the on in care of sardis and laodicea, in relation to the members of the church allowing them of some grossmisconduct, and was reproved.

@BOOMARK, is uniformity first an issue in rendering these leaders angel in your own bible? respond pls, we may be going to page 100 on this tread, and will sustain the truth because the scheme is not that of man, in piecemeal truth will be coming out here.

Don't you see that you are on the right track?

The angel of the covenant(Jesus) did not come as flaming fire angel but as a MAN. That is why i said it should be in uniformity with the angel(john) that came to clear the way. Your your quotes in Rev supports the my uniformity theorem. That is angels here=human messengers.

"For to which of the angels did
God ever say, "You are my Son;
today I have become your
Father"? Or again, "I will be his
Father, and he will be my Son"?" -
Hebrews 1:5

ijawkid: Lmao.......boomark ooooo.......I don die for laugh finish........

__________________________

Just keep your double edged sword strapped to your body...............

Ehe I send you mail I dey wait for reply........

"Keep on the watch" is better than the other one he said is on a stake abi at stake.

I am here because i don't want tell anyone that this or that is a mystery.

Bro i have sent you a reply.

BARRISTERS: @Boomark
@Frosbel;

below (in bold) is an agreed defination or the 'form' that an angels looks like or were identified(according to you as revealed below);


something very common to your definations above is ''a flaming fire'' as the real appearance of the angels (according to you, it is only the angels that posses that look,and that defines them as angels).

But, have you ever wondered why jesus will appear in that same form,''flaming fire'',(a)with his mighty angels (b) sharing that same angelic appearance [size=18pt]''flaming fire''[/size] according to your own defination? read

2 Thessalonians 1:7-8

7 and to give you who are troubled rest with us when[size=18pt] the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven[/size] with His mighty angels, 8 [size=18pt]in flaming fire [/size]taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.

can we say that you have blasphemed jesus with your defination of 'angels appearance as flaming fire'?an appearance exclusively designed for [size=14pt]''only''[/size] angels?

(this is another evidence of jesus as the archangel, apart from 'the archangels voice' that will be heard by the dead and rise which the authority of the 'voice' to be used is that of jesus,(boomark) dont you see conflict here?)

Welldone!

truthislight: my friend.
With all this false hood around is sleeping/resting the best thing to do?

It is good she is alert for the truth and her life and and not resting.

Your life is at stake my friend.

Is this a threat or what?

frosbel: Do not be deceived
brethren by the JW stance on
this specific issue.
1) It is blasphemy to suggest
that an angel was sent to die
for the sins of mankind.
Only a MAN could undo what
the First Adam has spoilt and
that Man was the Messiah, the
Christ and the Son of GOD.
He was not GOD or an angel ,
rather he came as a MAN , died
as a MAN , and is glorified as the
first MAN as Son of GOD , to
defeat Sin and Death.
2) Do not be deceived, angel
worship is s serious error.

You 1 and 2 are not strong enough. How?

Assuming an angel is made lower than the angels(just like Christ was made lower than the angels), sent into the womb of Mary and was brought into the world as a man(human). Would you say he is not capable of delivering mankind? Would you say he is not a man but spirit?

Do you know that john the Baptist is Elijah? Mt 11:14. He didn't come as a full Elijah's but he has to start as a Foetus with the spirit of Elijah.

plappville: My broda na waoh for you ooo, u still never finish with this matter? Christ no borrow anything, Na him own voice be that
Ok, now here is a question! Who's voice is like a trumpet? John said it was the first voice which he had heard before.

The Archangel's voice and the trumpet of God are two aspects of Christ's commanding shout. If you read "au debut" of REVELATION
Jesus will shout with the voice of th archangel since He has been the Chief Messenger and His voice is also a trumpet-like according to John.


Read Revelation 1:10-18 verse (10) I was in the Spirit on the Lord's Day, and I heard behind me a loud voice, as of a trumpet,

Revelation 4:1 After these things I looked, and behold, a door standing open in heaven. And the first voice which I heard was like a trumpet speaking with me,
saying, "Come up here, and I will show you things which must take place after this."

This is clearly Jesus who speaks with a loud voice and his voice is compared with a "trumpet". Jesus' voice sounds like a trumpet!
Compare this with these two different passages, you will see that. One passage refers to Christ's voice as waking up the dead; but, the other passage refers to the trumpet of God as waking up the dead. Please try and See (John 5:25-29 and 1 Corinthians 15:51-57.)

One text says the dead will hear the voice of Jesus. But, the other text says that it is at the last trumpet that the dead will rise.

Both re describing thesame event but they are describin the "shout Jesus" gives differently.
The voice mentioned and the trumpet of God must be two aspects of Christ's same commanding shout.

This plappville sef...i can see you are not resting.

BARRISTERS: @ Boomark



bolded above are weak proofs that cannot stand any of the next below, [size=18pt]''sound
of a trumpet'' is not the voice that the dead would hear and rise[/size]

john 5:25-29;

25 Most assuredly, I say to you, the hour is coming, and now is, when [size=18pt]the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God[/size]; and those who hear will live. 26 For as the Father has life in Himself, so He has granted the Son to have life in Himself, 27 and has given Him authority to execute judgment also, because He is the Son of Man. 28 Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear [size=18pt]His voice [/size]

You are right. But certainly not angel Michael's voice. The bible didn't say that.

Ubenedictus: and here bookmark say predestination isnt biblical! Where is bookmark??

My dear, why i said that is that you are switching from prescient to predestination. And also a guy told me that if one jumps off from a hill and dies, that God has destined him to die like that. So i was wondering if it is what they teach you people in church.

ijawkid: What has been happening is comparing scriptures with scriptures to arrive at a position......

What daniel saw is not a joke and it applies exactly to Jesus.........

A bible student can't see such clear parallels in the scriptures and act as if he or she never saw it....

That is why I've asked questions to see if you guys can explain scripturally to prove that MICHAEL's actions does not tally with Jesus'...........

1.....Michael was seen standing up in the last days(end times) with great tribulations as a sign of his standing up........(JESUS)' presence in the last days will be marked also by great tribulations....you can read matthwe 24 to see it all...........

2......Michaels standing up in the end times also leads to the dead been raised up and judged into eternal life or damnation.....(JESUS) would do exactly the same thing in the end times..........

3.....Michael has his angels.......Jesus too has his angels..........I wonder what heaven would look like when MIChael or Jesus keeps replicating same actions.........abi them be twins??......
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Now this is why 1 thesselonians adds everything up..............

If there is any other angel or spirit son of God that has been given the authority to appear in the end to ressurect the dead and judge them apart from Jesus you can tell us.........

From the bible,it is only Jesus who has been given that great authority........
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According to buzugee my twin bro ""its precept upon precept,here a little there a little.."".......

Lol......

Michael is a great angel and has a great role to play at the last days. The great tribulation will usher in the coming of Christ and Michael will not be resting that time.

Daniel showed us what Michael does that is standing for the people of God.

This is the summary of my explanation of 1 thessalonians 4:16.

1 Christ will give a commanding call and the dead will rise first.

2 Michael will stand for the elect. How? Satan and his demon will come to drag the elect as he did against Moses and he will hear his voice say "the Lord rebuke you."

3 The trumpet of God(i hope u knw they are angels) will then gather the elect, mt 24:31.

This just sweet when done step by step no jumping.

truthislight: all the flaming fires are Yahweh's messengers/angels

Yahweh also chose human to be his messengers.

Any body between spirit creatures and human can be a messenger of Yahweh.

It is really a very great thing to be a messenger of the creator of the univers

And that is why the bible says that of all that is born of woman none is greater than John the baptist.
^^^
he was very great.

@ my friend frosbel

was John the baptist greater than Jesus christ?

If no, why?

Christ is an exception.
That all power on earth and in heaven has been give to the son, does it mean the Father has no power again? 1Cor 15:27-28.

Your answer above does not in any way related to how God made His angels that contrast that of your angel John the Baptist. Ps 104:4.

ijawkid: And you have still not answered where Jesus came from in contrast to where John came from............

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Where did Jesus come from??......what was he before he was sent to the earth?? A spirit or a man??.......

what you should be asking is why the other remaining 3 translations rendered JOHN to be a "messenger" but JESUS an ""angel"" although both extracted from the same hebrew $ greek word...........

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I will ask u again...

Where did Jesus come from??....

Jesus came from heaven. He is a spirit.

So are all heavenly being angels?

^^Hmm...

Christ will not borrow any voice. Unless you are thinking that we don't know that a loud command/shout can be done by voice.

1. With "a" loud command/shout: this is obviously done with his voice. Who do you think he will command? Those that will hear the shout from his voice. The dead will hear his voice and come out.

THE BELOW DENOTES THOSE/EVENTS THAT HIS DECENT WILL COME WITH.

2. With the voice of "the" arch angel: this shows that the arch angel will at that time stand and do his work of which at that time is to protect those that will be gathered from the earth. He will protect them from satan's. Satan would not want the elect to be gathered.

3. With "the" trumpet of God: this will go a long way to prove the things Christ will be coming "with"

Mt 24:31
King James Bible

And he shall send his
angels with a great sound
of a trumpet, and they
shall gather together his
elect from the four winds,
from one end of heaven
to the other.

There are angels that bear the trumpet of God and they are what is denoted by "with the trumpet of God."

I hope it is clear now. If you want to prove something make it wholelistic. And not cherry picking of arch angels voice while dumping the loud command/shout and the trumpet of God.

STEP BY STEP

truthislight: i dont understand what you are actually saying.

Are you saying that the archangel will stand by the side while Jesus will make use of his voice?

Na wao!




confussion gallow.

Which bible/bible portion did you get that ^^^ from guy?
Hmmm!

Have you seen that you can't refute what i said. Your cut and join interpretation was refuted by my explanations step by step. That is how it should be...step by step. I will reproduce it again so that you dump what you believe 1Th 4:16 means.

ijawkid: Boomark you know true2God has not been sincere with this whole discussion....

All I want from y'all is sincerity...

1...It has been proven with the scriptures and renditions that Jesus was called an angel...

true2god and truthislight erred when they brought up the issue of
JW watchtower and trinity propaganda as a basis for those would not follow the truth.

Concerning (1) above,
Jesus and John were called angels. Some used messengers for both of them. In what sense were both of them called angels? As spirits and ministers of flaming fire(how God made his angels, Ps 104:4) or did they just translate messenger to angel. The two will have to be uniform since they were both called messengers in some translations.

2...It has also been proven that the actions fortold by daniel of the arch angel MICHAEL parallels the exact same actions Jesus would carry out...
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I have also asked a couple of questions that is yet to be answered....


Let's be sincere with ourselves here....the truth is right in front of us....

I stand nothing to gain here except using scriptures to interprete scriptures and establishing truths...

The singular reason why some here would rather die than accept Jesus was called an angel,is because of the trinity dogma......

Many have been dulled by this dogma that they deny clear written truths......boomark you know better....

I congratulate you,frosbel,plappville and a few others who have discarded the trinity dogma...that is even enough for me....

Concerning (2),
the explanation you guys gave is like cut and joining of Dan 12:1-3. Just like what barrister and truthislight did to 1Th 4;16.

If true2god needs to be cleared on trinity, let him chose any existing trinity thread. 2 pages is enough to get him cleared.

BARRISTERS: @Boomark



bolded above, you clearly denied[size=18pt] forcefully[/size] 'the voice' of the archangel which jesus possesed! you rendered his 'voice' impotent and invalid in your opinion. thats clear heresy! the passage is clear!



this bible verse does not give any credence to your case, it lacked substance,and unfortunately sound of trumpet is not 'the voice' note pls

note pls

(a)1 thess 4:16....''jesus will come with the archangels voice''

(b) john 5 25-29 ''the dead will hear the 'voice' of the son of God.

jesus was not referred to as coming 'along with the arch-angel' but 'with the voice of archangel' instead of arch angel as the focus here it was the voice, so jesus possesed that voice of archangel. note that fact.

Please stop doing cut and Join where it suits you.

When the say "barrister is coming WITH his half." What does it mean? I hope it doesn't mean you are coming along or with your wife.

Is it the sound or voice of water that will give a loud command/shout and the wind will be the trumpet?

You are doing cut and join to the quote.

true2god: Nobody is shocked anywhere but only JW, dnt be myopic my guy. Nobody, cos nowhere in the Bible remotely or directly Jesus was called an angel. I heard this fallacy first in 2004 and i trashed it squrelly with the pedllers. Try ansa my questions i asked u earlier before spewing ur kingdom hall tailored 'shocked' cos that is one of the key words u r taught to use anytime u seem to bambooz ur ignorant prospect.

My brother i wonder how i have been electrocuted(shocked) by barristers.

BARRISTERS: @Boomark



just tell me that you are shocked to the brim when you saw jesus beign reffered to as an angel,

remember that when i fisrt qupted malachi 3;1 you denied seing angel there and could boast that no bible translation could use angel, but when you saw the last two translations, that rendered jesus as angel,havent i answerd your question? you switch to me to explain why a particular bible was written? anyway jesus was reffered to as an angel,mal 3:1. pls belly the shock, i can understand,ehn!

Shocked??

Is john and Jesus referred to as angels according to how God made his angels in Ps 104:4 (spirits and ministers of flaming fire) or as messengers.

Don't orange pick cos there are so many people were are going to call angels.

truthislight: @ Bookmarked

who is this gal shouting your name?
Lol

Hmm...

If its a gal, 1like

If its a boy, -1like

truthislight: lol.

777, post must really have annoyed you?

Waoh! Just try and bear it out.
Peace

seun must give me what i want or i will bribe muki.

Can't you see? This is unbearable.