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Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Christ The Servant Of God: Trinity Debunked Again by Boomark(op): 8:17pm On Dec 12, 2012
tbaba and co, you guys should stop detailing this thread angry

create another thread for what you are discussing. This thread is meant for refuting trinity.
Christianity EtcRe: Pentecostal Christians Existed Before Roman Catholic by Boomark(m): 6:48pm On Dec 12, 2012
Ubenedictus: d bolded is d biggest joke of d day, it is like saying d arian will be most objective wen discussion d trinity, even worse. The idols u seem to see are figment of ya imagination, u ar daydreaming! Wakeup!
grin

I am Boomark not protestant.

But the images of the idol in your church are solid real objects. I don't think am just imagining them.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Boomark(m):
italo: Whoever you have ever asked to pray for you or whoever you respect and honour is your God, according to you. E.g your pastor, your parents, your friends...they are even probably worse sinners than the pastors so why are you worshipping them?
Don't you see why i said this wave oduwa delusion is for you and your church:

Boomark: 2 Thessalonians
2:9-12
New International Version (NIV)
9 The coming of the lawless
one
will be in accordance with how
Satan works. He will use all
sorts of
displays of power through signs
and wonders that serve the lie,
10 and all the ways that
wickedness deceives those who
are
perishing. They perish because
they
refused to love the truth and so
be
saved. 11 For this reason God
sends
them a powerful delusion so
that
they will believe the lie 12 and
so
that all will be condemned who
have not believed the truth but
have delighted in wickedness.
Boomark (Bk) and Italo catholic (itc) were asked to forsake their evil ways. Itc being deluded did not want to leave idol worship.

[b]Bk: itc my broda, am now a new
creature in our lord Jesus.

Itc: ok.

Bk: wount you leave idol worship?

Itc: who told you am worshipping
idol? Am using them as a
a prayer aid.

Bk: but i have shown you fact
from
the scripture that those things
are idols.

Itc: what of you that worship ur
pastors.

Bk: i have told you i am a new
man in Christ.

Itc: why would you do it before?

Bk: i have left all those things. you
have to leave idol worship.
You are making these
idols your God.

Itc: everyone that has prayed for
you before is your God.

Bk: you are being deluded
according to 2 thessalonians
2:9-12.

Itc: that is for you.

Bk: you have to worship God in
spirit and in truth. Allow the
Holyspirit to intercede for you.

Itc: you don't have to tell me and
my church what to do. angry The spirit of the blessed holy virgin Mary intercedes for us. Oh! Most holy mother. Amen and amen.

Bk: SMH for u.

Itc: shake it for you self. Am using
the image to remember the love i have for Christ.

Bk: if you look deep into those
images you will see a demon staring at you.

Itc: stop scaring me! angry

Bk: i wount

*italo carry matchete begin pursue me*[/b]
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Boomark(m): 2:54pm On Dec 12, 2012
Chukskalidon: everyone directs their enemity and attacks towards catholics. Haven't ur brain told u dat sumtin is special abt it.
what special about catholic? If they are worshipping God then you will talking about them being special. I wonder who will envy idol worshipers.

Did you read page 10 before posting? We are rebuking idol worship my brother.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Boomark(m): 2:37pm On Dec 12, 2012
italo: You cannot tell us how to love Christ. Catholics have been loving Christ long before you came into the world and will continue to love him long after you are dead and rotten in the grave.

If the pastors are not following the footsteps of Christ, why are you worshipping them?
Loving Christ no be for mouth. Burn every idol in your possession. That is when you will show him that you love him. Keep his commandment of worshipping God in truth and in spirit, that is when you are showing him your love. You can't serve two masters at a time: Christ and idol.

I told you to look deep into any of the idols in your possession and you will see lucifer staring at you. Have you done that?

Who am i worshipping? Just gather all those pastors, your church fathers including the pope and i will rebuke them wherever they err.
Christianity EtcRe: Pentecostal Christians Existed Before Roman Catholic by Boomark(m): 1:01pm On Dec 12, 2012
Lovethywilbedon: (@ Boomark) ...........My Friend, stop dodging the simple request. Just give me the remaining "95" let me Dissect PROTESTANISM for you. (that is what you get for taking someone else's "Panadol"wink
I am not a protestant. Things i stand for are in those links i showed you. A protestant should be in a better position to state their advantages and disadvantages for you.

Why not view how catholics are believing in obvious lies formulated by satan. It you have truth in you you will drop every idol in your possession after reading them.
Christianity EtcRe: You Have Less Than 200 Weeks To Make Your Final Choice. God Or Satan by Boomark(m): 11:53am On Dec 12, 2012
Bélla3: HAS NO SCRIPTURAL BACKING ABI?
have searched and searched, can't see it anywhere.
Christianity EtcRe: You Have Less Than 200 Weeks To Make Your Final Choice. God Or Satan by Boomark(m): 11:49am On Dec 12, 2012
obadiah777: IT CAN BRAH http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_from_laughter <<<<<< shocked IT MADE WIKIPEDIA
things that happened in novels. Fictional writings. Very rare.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Boomark(m): 10:44am On Dec 12, 2012
Ubenedictus: actually if i remember correctly u said yes to the question "ALL intercession is 4biden unless d intercessor is d holyspirit" is man d holyspirit? No place 4 ya to hide.
Of course i said yes. Because you asked me that question while i was explaining the fact that the Holyspirit is the ONLY perfect spirit that intercede for man.

We all know that man intercede for man. But the problem is about spirit intercessorship. The spirit of Mary is not qualified in any way to intercede for man. The Holyspirit is.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Boomark(m): 10:34am On Dec 12, 2012
italo: But we Catholics love the truth - Jesus. We love him so much that we keep images of him to constantly remind us of him. We love him so much that we receive him into our body and soul at mass.

So this above doesn't really apply to faithful Catholics. It applies better to you non-Catholics who have twisted the truth for personal gains like private jets, jeeps, mansions and other material gains.
That quote is actually referring more to faithful catholics starting from their pope. If you love Christ, destroy those images and worship God in spirit and in truth. Obey Him. He did not ask you to keep unregulated images that opportunistic demons have taken advantage of to get worship for themselves. Look deep into those images you will see demons staring at you.

its seems you are more interested in the pastors that are not following the footsteps of Christ than You and the catholics who are worshipping idol. Or you want to use it as a distraction?
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Christ The Servant Of God: Trinity Debunked Again by Boomark(op): 10:13am On Dec 12, 2012
God the Father: the God of our Lord Jesus Christ.

John 20:17
New King James Version (NKJV)
17 Jesus said to her, “Do not cling
to Me, for I have not yet ascended
to My Father; but go to My brethren
and say to them, ‘I am ascending to
My Father and your Father, and to
My God and your God.’”[b]

Hebrew 1:9
You have loved righteousness and
hated wickedness; 9
[b]therefore God, your God,
has set you above your
companions
by anointing you with the
oil of joy.”


Eph 1:17
That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of Him.

Rev 1:6
New International Version
(©1984)
and has made us to be a
kingdom and priests to
serve his God and Father
--
to him be glory and
power for ever and ever!
Amen.

Why would trinitarians, those that profess the doctrine of men, make Jesus equal to his God? How can the servant of God be equal to Him that he serve.

This is just a ploy by satan to make sure that man will not regard God, the Father of all as their all in all.

Serve the only true God. Trinity has no root from the scripture.
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Christ The Servant Of God: Trinity Debunked Again by Boomark(op): 9:35am On Dec 12, 2012
honeychild: @ tbaba
When the Bible says Jesus is the son of God we mean just that: he was created directly by God without recourse to the normal human form of reproduction.

There is a surat in the Quran ( I forget exactly which) but it says that the likeness of Adam before God is similar to that of Jesus. The Bible also calls Jesus 'the last Adam.' Both are sons of God because he created them directly without a human father.

The Bible also calls the angels sons of God for the same reason. Their lives issued directly from him

For Christians, we do not find it strange to call God's creatures his sons because he has revealed himself to us in the Holy Scriptures as a loving heavenly father who desires a close relationship with each one of us. Our God is not a Master to be in dread of. He is a Father to love. We obey him out of love and not fear because that is how he has revealed himself to us. That is why we refer to him as Father when we pray.

As for those who teach the Trinity, they are teaching an unbiblical doctrine. It Is not found In the scrIptures. The BIble clearly teaches that Jesus is the son of God, because he was created directly by God. God has no equal.
Nice one dear!
Christianity EtcRe: Pentecostal Christians Existed Before Roman Catholic by Boomark(m): 8:46am On Dec 12, 2012
Lovethywilbedon: Is it that you don't understand simple English? go and re-read my privious post and try to understand it. Okay, let me help you. I said that you should give me "5 REASONABLE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN PROTESTANTS AND PENTICOSTALS" and I will help you to coplete the 100 you will give me about "The Catholic Church" to 200. That means, you have to give me your 100 first and then I will complete it to 200. Anyway you have managed to give [ 4 FAULSE and 1 TRUTH (of cause we ask the Angels and Saints who are Alife in Christ to pray for us. Rev5:7-8, Rev21:1-4. Rom15:30)] as your 5 (list not even a diffrenciative comparism and filled with multiple repetition). It is remaining 95 then, I will complete it to 200. In case you think I am afriad of this year long journey, just cheak out my [101-110] and tell me if any of them is faulse or a repetition. [101]. The Holy Roman Catholic was Founded by Christ though his Apostles and First Century Christians While for the Protestants any Seriously Hungry man can wake after a dream or a serious hangover and open his own "church" [102]. The Holy Roman Catholic is more than 2000 years Old While no single Protestant church is up to 500 years, "soo imature" (If you doubt it consult any history book, even the one written by fellow Protestants). [103] The Holy Roman Catholic Church has no denomination But the Protestants have more than 35,000 denominations and upto 6,000 "Non-denominatinal" denomination globally [104] The Holy Roman Catholic Church has one Pope while for the Protestants everybody becomes his own "pope" [105] The Priest of The Holy Roman Catholic don't marry While Protestant ministers can marry and divorce their wives at will. [106] All the Bishops of The Holy Roman Catholic Church are validly ordained by the Pope While for the Protestants any body can go to bed on saturday only to wake up on Sunday morning and declear him / herself a "bishop" [107] The Holy Roman Catholic Church makes use of the COMPLETE CANNON of the bible while the Protestants make use of the INCOMPLETE canno. [108] The Holy Roman Catholic Church Fix the date for all the FEAST celebrated in Christendom While the Penticostals have nothing to fix but just to simply follow. (Now coming down to Nigeria)[109] Priests of The Holy Roman Catholic Church in Nigeria don't even preach about the Old Testament Tithes to there parishoners because God loves a cheerful giver who gives out of freewill and not out of compulsion, On the contrary Many, if not All Protestant ministers Enforce Neak Breaking Tithes on their followers simply because a single verse in the bible says that "a labourer deserves his wages" and they think it is refering to them. [110] Every Nigerian Priest of The Holy Roman Catholic Church likes to drive whatever automobile given to him by his Bishop be it Camry or "KEKE" While on the other hand Nigerian Protestant ministers LIKES FLYING IN PRIVATE JETS. [111] The Holy Roman Catholic Churc...... infact if you will be couragious enough to give me your remaining "95" (even though your first 5 were invalid) differences betwee The HRCC and the protestant, I will complete it to 200 and then show you how The Holy Roman Catholc Church became "THE ONE AND ONLY TRUE CHURCH FOUNDED BY JESUS CHRIST". Maybe some of you PROTESTANTS are begining to see for the First Time "WHY? I AM PROUD TO BE A CATHOLIC"
You can't be proud of idol worshipers if you are a Christian. Visit and read from page 10 down.
[url]nairaland.com/1087122/why-catholics-pray-rosary-bow/10#13350173[/url]

click my profile you will see a thread where you will learn that that our lord Jesus Christ is serving the Almighty God and that trinity is the doctrine of man.

When you see these things, you will then know whether to add more or reduce.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Boomark(m): 8:31am On Dec 12, 2012
2 Thessalonians 2:9-12
New International Version (NIV)
9 The coming of the lawless one
will be in accordance with how
Satan works. He will use all sorts of
displays of power through signs
and wonders that serve the lie,
10 and all the ways that
wickedness deceives those who are
perishing. They perish because they
refused to love the truth and so be
saved. 11 For this reason God sends
them a powerful delusion so that
they will believe the lie 12 and so
that all will be condemned who
have not believed the truth but
have delighted in wickedness.


For all catholics that have chosen to believe a lie. Meditated on it.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Boomark(m): 8:13am On Dec 12, 2012
Boomark:
Whether divine nature or
undivine nature, there no two
ways to idol worship. Besides, is
Christ not divine? Why do you
make his image? Do you know
how he looks? Does he appear
like all the different images of
him in the catholic church?

i bet he does!

Deut 5:8
English Standard Version
(©2001)
“‘You shall not make for
yourself a carved image,
or any likeness of
anything that is in heaven
above, or that is on the
earth beneath, or that is
in the water under the
earth.

No escape my brother, idol
worship is idol worship. It is
clearly written.
Stop fighting on behalf of
lifeless images. Serve the living
God in spirit and in truth.

that is ya fallible interpretation!
See how you are lying here and there against the one(Jesus) you should fear just because of lifeless images. That Jesus appeared as the different images in catholic church? SMH!!!

Is it not obvious that catholic church worship idol and are not Christ followers(Christians).

Lucifer, queen of the coast and the demons must have had there fair share of representation by each of those images. Look deeply into those images you probably will see a demon staring at you.

You didn't see deut 5:8 coming. You got choked up when you finally saw it, knowing fully well that you are in possession of idol.

I tell you again:
Stop fighting on behalf of
lifeless images possessed by demons. Serve the living
God in spirit and in truth.
Christianity EtcRe: Was Man Originally Created To Live & Die Or Live Forever? by Boomark(m): 11:29pm On Dec 11, 2012
obadiah777: grin grin grin grin WE SHALL AGREE TO DISAGREE. YOU GONE LEARN REAL SOON WHEN YOU GET IN THE KINGDOM THAT YO A-ZZ IS STILL MORTAL, ALBEIT LONGER LONGEVITY. YOU GONE LEARN REAL SOON
I have the knowledge already. Rom 5:12 says through one man, sin and death entered the world.

If Adam had not sinned, would he have died?
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Christ The Servant Of God: Trinity Debunked Again by Boomark(op): 11:10pm On Dec 11, 2012
Enigma: Ah by the way I think i read earlier one of the anti-Trinitarians saying Jesus IS God but He is not The Father.

Well, what the poster does not realise is that he is in fact now agreeing with ---- yep, you guessed right, the Trinitarians! smiley

cool
This thread is not meant for those that tell people "it is a mystery, go and consult the spirit."

You will soon look for where to get backup for your trinity you will not see. By that time you will know again that you are practicing the doctrines of men.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Michael The Archangel Really Jesus? (revelation 12:7) by Boomark(m): 10:40pm On Dec 11, 2012
plappville:
(NIV) Hebrews 1:4-9
Having "become" so
much better than the angels, as
He has by inheritance
"obtained" a more excellent
name than they.
5 For to which of the angels did
He ever say: "You are My Son,
Today I have begotten You"?
And again: "I will be to Him a
Father, And He shall be to Me a
Son"?
6 But when He again brings the
firstborn into the world, He
says: "Let all the angels of God
worship Him."
7 And of the angels He says:
"Who makes His angels spirits
And His ministers a flame of
fire."
8 But to the Son He says: "Your
throne, O God, is forever and
ever; A scepter of righteousness
is the scepter of Your Kingdom.
9 You have loved righteousness
and hated lawlessness;
Therefore God, Your God, has
anointed You With the oil of
gladness more than "Your
companions."
v3 ending and v4 happened when he ascended to heaven.

v5 is a question asked after he has been begotten. To which of the angels did He ever say "You are my son...?" will your answer be angel Michael? It is obvious God did not say that to an angel.
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Christ The Servant Of God: Trinity Debunked Again by Boomark(op): 9:49pm On Dec 11, 2012
italo: May the Lord have mercy on your soul!
My brother, this is where we learn.
As you can see, counter quotes that brings confusion did not work here because we started from the root.

Soon we will uproot trinity from the root grin and show men how trinity is the doctrine of men.
Christianity EtcRe: You Have Less Than 200 Weeks To Make Your Final Choice. God Or Satan by Boomark(m): 9:08pm On Dec 11, 2012
Bélla3: SURE IS! BT I HEARD IT CAN KILL huh
Nah! That is a false prophecy.
Christianity EtcRe: You Have Less Than 200 Weeks To Make Your Final Choice. God Or Satan by Boomark(m): 9:05pm On Dec 11, 2012
obadiah777: NO SIR THIS HERE IS LITERAL. grin . I DONT THINK ANYTHING SHORT OF GINGER NUTS WILL CONVERT HIM BACK TO CHRISTIANITY. HE HAS TASTED THE GOOD LIFE. HIS TASTE HAS IMPROVED LOL
If this ginger nuts will work, let us buy it for him.

Errm...i will also like to taste the ginger nuts too.
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Christ The Servant Of God: Trinity Debunked Again by Boomark(op): 8:37pm On Dec 11, 2012
italo: He had EQUALITY with God but didn't consider it something to be used to his advantage.
Phillipians 2:6: Who, being in
very nature God,
did not consider equality with
God something to be used to
his own advantage;


You have been reading this out of context.

v5 says "let this mind be in you which is in Christ jesus." this is trying to show us the mindset of Christ as he serve. Believers should not be boastful no matter the power they have.

Who, being in the very nature(form) of God: An ordinary man is a god. A man filled with the Holyspirit is a god greater than an ordinary man. How much more the lamb of God filled with the seven spirits of God, Rev 5:6. The Father promised to put His spirit upon him, mt 12:18.
So he is a God.

did not consider equality with
God something to be used to
his own advantage;

If Christ should raise himself equal to his Godly nature(ie the state where he is God not the Father o), he would have ruled as king on earth. The pharisees would tremble at his feet. No body will dare plot to kill him or spit on him. While they were flogging him, he would have commanded the angels to release him and to beat a hell out of those soldiers. He never used it to save himself ie to his advantage.

But he was obedient to the will of the Father(luke 22:42) to the point of death. Chai!
Christianity EtcRe: Christ Embassy, No Private Jet, No University, Why by Boomark(m): 4:26pm On Dec 11, 2012
Pastor Kun: Why are you suprisedhuh by now you should know that Joagbaje is a false christian whose only interest is personal gain for him and his god called oyakhilome.
Very unfortunate!
Christianity EtcRe: Christ Embassy, No Private Jet, No University, Why by Boomark(m): 4:18pm On Dec 11, 2012
seriallink: God bless you Boomark!!

Nairaland I hail thee!!!! Business don dey shake for some folks grin grin grin
Amen!

grin
Christianity EtcRe: You Have Less Than 200 Weeks To Make Your Final Choice. God Or Satan by Boomark(m): 4:12pm On Dec 11, 2012
Logicboy03: Is it my fault? They claimed that they were giving the bread of life and all I got was cabin biscuit. As soon as I tasted digestives, there was no going back wink
grin
Christianity EtcRe: You Have Less Than 200 Weeks To Make Your Final Choice. God Or Satan by Boomark(m): 4:10pm On Dec 11, 2012
ijawkid: Lmao....grin.....

@logicboy........oya tell me sorry first before I go gree save you from my twin brother hand......lol......
You can't save him. We have videos and pictures of him at the church backyard where he was enjoying the cabin biscuit and butter.
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Christ The Servant Of God: Trinity Debunked Again by Boomark(op): 3:55pm On Dec 11, 2012
seyibrown: Question number 1 to OP: Art thou frosbel in Boomark clothing? grin grin
grin

Boomark is Boomark.
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Christ The Servant Of God: Trinity Debunked Again by Boomark(op): 3:52pm On Dec 11, 2012
tbaba1234: I have defined the options unless you have another
look up the other meanings of begotten and its synonyms.
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Christ The Servant Of God: Trinity Debunked Again by Boomark(op):
One God: The Father

1 Corinthians 8:4-6
New International Version (NIV)
4 So then, about eating food
sacrificed to idols: We know that
“An idol is nothing at all in the
world” and that “There is no God
but one.”
5 For even if there are
so-
called gods, whether in heaven or
on earth (as indeed there are
many
“gods” and many “lords”), 6 yet
for
us there is but one God, the
Father,
from whom all things came and
for
whom we live; and there is but
one
Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom
all things came and through
whom
we live.
Deut 6:4
Hear, O Israel: the LORD our God is
one LORD.
Eph 4:6
One God and Father of all, who is
above all, and through all, and in
all.

1Tim2:5
For there is one God, and one
mediator between God and men,
the man Christ Jesus.

Acts 3:13
The God of Abraham and of Isaac
and of Jacob, the God of our
forefathers, has glorified His
servant, Jesus, whom you, for
your part, delivered up....

Mal 2:10
Is it not one Father that all of us
have? Is it not one God that has
created us? Why do you deal
treacherously with one
another,...?

Mt 23:9
Moreover, do not call anyone
your father on earth, for one is
your Father, the heavenly one.


The bible clearly shows that there
is one God who is the Father. The
God that the Israelites worship,
who is different from His servant,
Jesus, acts 3:13.

Trinity, being the doctrine of men
contradicts these bible verses by
saying that one God consist of 3
different persons: Father, Son and
Holyspirit. Their is no where it is
written in the bible.

What is written is that God is one
and He is the Father, who is God
over all, including our Lord Jesus,
Eph 1:17.
Christianity EtcRe: Was Man Originally Created To Live & Die Or Live Forever? by Boomark(m): 2:33pm On Dec 11, 2012
obadiah777: YOU DO ERR. THE CARNAL MAN THINKS OF THE FLESH. IF YOU READ THE FIRST FEW CHAPTERS OF THE BOOK OF GENESIS, IT SHOWS YOU WHAT OUR LIFE-SPAN WILL BE IN THE KINGDOM. AND IF YOU GO INTO THE BOOK OF ISAIAH CHAPTER 65 IT FURTHER GOES INTO IT. OUR LIFESPAN IN THE KINGDOM WILL BE AROUND 1000 YEARS. HOWEVER THERE WILL BE NO MORE SPIRITUAL DEATH. YOU DO ERR NOT KNOWING SCRIPTURES BOOKMARK
I showed you how natural body is different from spiritual body. You left it and run to genesis. Did God state the life span of a perfect Adam. If man was meant to die at 1000 yrs of age, then Adam and co lived a perfect life. You left there and run to Isaiah... angry

Infact my plan is to catch you with net and tie you one place. Am tired of running with you. angry
Christianity EtcRe: Satan Works Together With The Lord. They Complement Each Others Work by Boomark(m): 2:15pm On Dec 11, 2012
obadiah777: YOU DO ERR

PSALMS 78 VS 2 I will open my mouth in a parable <<< SELF EXPLANATORY. THIS HERE SCRIPTURE IS HIDDEN TO THOSE WHO ARE NOT SINCERE

2 CORINTHIANS 4 VS 3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: <<< HID

ISAIAH 6 VS 9 And he said, Go, and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not <<< COVERT
Ok...i understand the ones that is meant for.
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Christ The Servant Of God: Trinity Debunked Again by Boomark(op): 1:50pm On Dec 11, 2012
italo: Phillipians 2:5 In your relationships with one another, have the same mindset as Christ Jesus:

6 Who, being in very nature God,
   did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;
7 rather, he made himself nothing
    by taking the very nature of a servant,

    being made in human likeness.
8 And being found in appearance as a man,
    he humbled himself
    by becoming obedient to death—
        even death on a cross!

Did you see that?

Do you need further explanation?
At first you did not explain anything. Let me explain it to you with my own parable. grin

A prince was sent to a land under the control of his father to get a priceless treasure. He went there and the people did not know him. They despise him, spat on him and pushed him out of the way as they pass. But he did not talk back at them, his voice was not heard on the broad way, mt 12:18-19. He did not say "don't you know i am the prince? And you people must show your respect to me." but he took the form of a servant, associated with the lowly ones until he achieved what his father wants from him. When he returned, his father glorified him and made him the crown prince.

This it for you. Your interpretation should not contradict the bible.

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