DBR:

Tosin. . na wa for u o!
Refusin to do the collabo,which is like M9 extending hand of friendship to a squash the beef/rumour is sayin it's on.
U no dey read?? How has M9 justified it. While pple were xpecting a terrible incident as the source of the issue, no be M9 talk am say it's based
on hearsay?? That is even forgivin the fact RM did a track based on the hearsay.
Tell me, who is justifyin it, the person callin to talk things over, or the person who didnt wanna sit down like men and talk  but rather recorded a diss track??

Nope, but that's wat a mature person wld do. Honour an invite for collabo, or , and talk things over.
If they did that we wont be here discussin the beef. Nas honoured Jayz and vice versa on Black republican/ successful, that's sayin the beef is over.
Nickle 9 blessin mic wit Em is sayin the issue they had is sorted.
im sure they sat down ti iron things out too.

Trust u to stil blame it on M9. . no be u?
But The pendulum swings both wayz, So if Deathblow was marketin stunt. Then i guess Waka waka, Speak your mind,Bangin' and others are all marketin gimmicks!
LMAO. . Y not? No be same pple and issue e dey address?
the only difference is that, one is more thotful while d order was childish and frivolous.

If we swapped the interviews, and t'was RM that comported himself like this, and M9 was the one shouting "Ba$ta[i].[/i]rd person" "u'l die a pauper" "fool" and all sort.
Wat will your response be, Tosin ??

oNe

Nice post DBR. The only thing is deviants would stay deviant even when the truth is staring at them. . .

Truth be told, no one is right and no one is wrong but[b] one is mature and one is not[/b]

meplus:

Somebody pls help me, i hate ruggedman with all my heart i always feel like stabbing him weneva i see him. maybe becos he doesnt knw how to rap. Pls advise me (lmao)

meplus:

I'll still kill nd i still hate him, pls advise me

Isn't it obvious this guy is just running people's mouth?? The guy is just joking. . .

nonsense music.

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eldee:

@bouzymill

That's unfair, you can't just crowd this thread with versions of Waving flag . . .

BTW, let's hear the Dizzie Rascal World Cup song

[flash=450,400]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AG-0ASyBYT0&hl=en_GB&fs=1[/flash]

loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool. I'm just pissed at that particular award. But the Dizzie Rascal England join no bad anywayz,

dammiecool:

oya your turn

This guy . . . lol

dammiecool:

e remain make u die abeg do am chap chap

check where the smiley started. It was from you, you made the move first, i only followed the move with a frown. So, if death is the next move, then it's your turn to make the DEATH MOVE.

Ibime:

I dont know why you and lalaboi keep hyping this dude. . . that was a weak freestyle, and a weak diss to Jesse Jagz and Rughead.

I don't know these guys but I don't think they are wack. though, these lines are obviously pre-written. . . they are not WACK. You're just not feeling them. . . . Period.

I Stay fly cos my legs are anti-gravity

Kinda like the sharpness of this. . .

dammiecool:

cool

Which Part?

faketeeth:

Verse 1:

    bad more than farland, from any CD 2 any island…I am…

Keeping it real like  slap 2 your face, like a sour taste in your mouth.

Cos I’m coming thru like baileys

What are all these ones? Punchlines Dem punch dieeeeeeeeeeeee    ---(I laugh, bone face. I come finally frown .   .   .  lol)

audio:

Nigerians should just be happy that P Square and MI were even nominated. That is 100% progress. Believe me, the people that matter noticed and they will have surely also noticed the significant rise in viewing figures.

You are right about this.

audio:

But to call the BET awards wack because you waited up to see PSquare and MI is laughable. An awards show is about money and Best international artist will hardly send pulses racing, so it will be done off camera.
I really wish people could do just a bit of research before they open their mouths to chat bullocks. It reflects badly on you

This is not about seeing them P Square, M.I or whoever for that matter (who even cares if they were absent?).  BET Awards sucks and that's it. Any real and deep music follower would know how suck the BET Awards is. They call some names and you want to puke!

You don't need too much research to know Dizzie Rascal don''t just deserve the award. A guy, regardless his previously 2 "make-sense" albums, recorded an unofficial world cup trac[/b]k and it became a [b]world wide success; even Coca-Cola (Not coca-cola Nigeria or Coca-Cola, South Africa) took the joint as the soundtrack for their World-Cup advertisement. That's K'naan. And that's an International Act. Correct me if I said it wrong. As a matter of fact, it is now difficult to get the original version first written by Knaan as the internet is filled with the edited version and various remakes, various features in various languages. That's an International feat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=TxmEd9lcn0k     .  .  . performing with the original unedited release

http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=amXeJrA-wDc   .  .  . featuring [b]Will.I.am and David Guetta  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8__lUfx7zdo   .  . feat. David Bisbal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apeVbw02nzc&NR=1 ,  Feat. nancy Ajram

http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=nB7L1BIDELc  ,  Young Artists for Haiti. (this is the best version featuring drake, avril lavigne and i guess kardinal offishal and lots more)

Only one record which has achieved this re-recording and re-production to different languages comes to my mind right now, and that is We are The World by[b] MJ and Lionel Richie

This particular award shows how myopic bet awards is.

It took only 24 hours to generate pages for the What U want video. . . People love to hate than appreciate. Guess there's nothing they got on this one. peoooooooooooople!!!!

kashmo:

The video Rhyme Tight die with the B.I.G effects. I'm very impressed with very shots taking, and don't be surprise some folks will still condemn it for just being plain [b]s[/b]tupid. Dental Advisory if you are just an hater of this tight video!

lol. . . they have a way of bringing forth intellectual fallacies to knock it down. . . But I sure know those who don't deny the truth among them. The video is very tight. It's not all about money.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG59509suJs

If the link is not working, it's in his facebook profile. . .


For all the haters, scream on this

The best he could have done is to record fresh materials and choose maybe 4 or 5 from these really old tracks to be added as bonus tracks. It's so painful when his fans wait for an album for like 6 years and all they got afterall is what they've been hearing for years

I'm not a fan of his but for real, minus all the hates and all that, He should have recorded alot of fresh materials that would have made up for all these years his fans have waited. You can add "a year" single to your album not joints that have been on for ages. Put em on the mixtape and leave it at that.

For Instance, Wale has been recording alot of joints way back before he got signed and when he brought out his debut album, he didn't release his old joints in the album, you have to come out fresh.


African American - (the title is just something else)

04kaa:

if na bouzymill [/b]and the other small nl cats now, u priinck go dey strong as u dey e-bully dem ,
u no say me i no be your mate for nl, me i go e-thwark u. , i will let u rest today , lol. he don tey wey i don bully u online.

[b]i HEAR YOU OOOOOOOOOOOO. . .. Na ME BE "SMALL CAT". Na ME DEM DEY E-BULLY. Anywayz,

@The post
Maybe M.I is known throughout Africa or P Square is known all over the world, the point is they still have a long way to go and things can always be different when you are outside the domain you rock. They should be humbled by the nominations and know that if they can be nominated, they can win. Making the nominees list shows to them, they are the hottest (in the eyes of BET) in Africa ad that's enough for now. . . They should keep doing it for the reason they got into it at first. . . It's going to happen anyhow one day.

rapjunkie:

please go and re read the posts and work out who said what. . . . . r u referring to audio or rapjunkie?. . . .  for christsakes I AM NOT AUDIO!!

as regards appealing music = international album. . . . let me break down my point so u can understand. . . .  .


Bouzymill said MI's music is more appealing which in effect means that MI should have won the award. . . . . [/b]my point was. . .  . why did MI feel it was necessary to release a 'western' ( international)  album called 'one' ( which he never released)  if 'talk about it' was already of international standard?

do u understand that eldee?

Pls oooo. . . bouzymill did not say that [b]M.I's appealing music means MI should have won the award. Even in my post, i said Knaan should have won the award. The Mi and Dizzie Rascal comparism is reffering to Dizzie Rascal's kind of music. If it's appeal = award, then corrine bailey would take it over MI (my opinion)

Genuflect:

The video was high quality as fukk too. That was what attracted me in the first place. And don't you think the concept the director utilises is a function of how much you pay him

You are right about the role of money as per the director. It's just that I'm very sure the little money he used can still produce something better. .  . I'm sure he would improve on this anyway.

~Sauron~:

ALABAI can't be as rich as Modo but his Video makes more sense than Mode-9's nonsense video.

this is exactly my poiint about the director and the video. Alabai made a good video with lesser money because his director is very good. there are people who can make quality low budget videos, it's not a must you go to DJ Tee or Clarence Peters. that's what they should know.

04kaa:

BOuzymill, TRUTH BE TOLD, THE VIDEO WAS BELOW EXPECTATION AND ALSO BOUZYMILL IS RIGHT BY SAYING PEOPLE HAVE A BIASED MIND WHEN IT COMES TO MODENINE ISSUES, THATS BCOZZ MODE IS LIKE NAIJA NUMBER ONE, ANYONE THAT IS NUMBER ONE WOULD HAVE HATERS AND ENEMIES, EVEN MI SEF , PEOPLE DEY YAB AM,, IF  , ELDEE , OFOKA OR GENUFLECT BECOMES THE BEST RAPPER IN NIGERIA TODAY , NA UNA NAIRALANDERS GO FIRST HATE ON US , NA LIE,   TRUTH BE TOLD THE VIDEO WAS TOO LOW BUDGET ,,LEVELS DON CHANGE WIT VIDEO EFFECTS FOR NAIJA NOW,
U NO SEE WANDE COAL SESAN VIDEO ?
U NO SEE DJINEE EFFECTS
MEX ,OSHODI , CLARENCE AND OTHERS
EVEN MY SONY VEGAS WILL MAKE A BERRA VIDEO GENUFLECT NA LIE??

Genuflect:

Lol. Exactly what I'm talking about. The Music Video Industry for Naija don too go far. Yeah, Mode 9 has haters with biased minds but he is not helping matters by releasing this kind of video. I remember the first time I watched MI's Crowd Mentality, it was too mad. And that was like 3 years ago. Things should be only allowed to get better. The era of mediocre videos should stay in the past abeg

I think i understand what you people are saying quite alright from the beginning.  .  .  "below expectation" is what it is.  .   . I just don't give in to the term wack like the video is nothing.  .  .

@Genuflect.  .  .
In reference to M.I's video, what made the video is not about the money. .  . but the concept of the director.

tosinaded@:

hisssss oshi oda jor!
bouzyf.ool shut the fck up!
the more u try justifying urself the more s.tupid your post is. . . . . . .

I've known you from the days of skingo. If it's not Saucekid, it's nobody. . . you don't have anything positive to say.

eldee:

@bouzymill

This thread was made to discuss the Modenine video, let's discuss it and let it be.
However if you want to throw personal attacks at people, then could you please not be a coward about it.

I don't care bout where Modenine lives, I'm not a hater, I buy his albums . . . and[b] I don't know who exactly you're aiming at with your 'live with your mama' comment[/b], I don't . . . but if you have a problem with someone here, put a name on it . . . makes it easier for people to see what you've got against them.

I've seen you criticising American hiphop artistes, have you achieved what they've achieved?? Have you sold more than Solja Boy?? Have you ever been that popular?? If the answer to any of the above questions is no . . . then in the words of Eminem 'stop playing with the scissors and shiit and cut the crap.

That said, in one breath you're saying erm 'the video is alright' in the same breath you come out to say 'well, the producer was crap' can't you just listen to yourself??

This guy vex oooooo. Out of all I said, the only thing that was painful to you is "some people still live with their parents". I dont even know you. So how the hell am I suppose to to be throwing the jabs at you. there are more than ten pseaudonyms here and you chose to inhale my "air" for your personal breathe. Why? For real I'm not even hear to make personal jabs to anyone. i just got frustrated with the way people just move in with already biased minds. What really triggered what I wrote wa that someone somewhere said he's hasn't seen the video but he was so sure it's crap. and that B.S. to me.

I have criticized Soulja Boy, Yes I have. Infact, a whole lots of them. I'm not saying you can't can't criticize anybody but when it comes to preference on Who Did something as against The thing itself. If it was another artist that did the video, people would say the video is ALRIGHT but now that it is MOdenine, It is WACK. why?

eldee:


1. They wanted to make sumn 'minimalistic' . . . is that the new word for wack??

2. It's more on the concept . . . nope, wack video, weak concept.

3. Money can't buy you a good video . . . yeah, but give Igho the money and you'll see the result.

4. Some of you still live with parents . . . is that why Modenine's suit looks crappy or is that why the video looks like it was shot in Javalove's bathroom??

5. 'You're enforcing your opinions on people' . . . if you have valid points that make sense, my opinion won't count.

6. Have I achieved what Modenine has achieved?? Has Bouzymill achieved what Solja Boy has achieved, why then does he diss Solja Boy??

What exactly is your problem with "minimalism". I said they wanted to make it that way but they pushed it too much. minimalistic concept in art and design is making sense these days. . .

your point number 4 lacks coherence. what the Bleep are you saying

5. once again, criticize who you wanna. But don't have a predefined or preformated mind on issues.

Anywayz, on the real, Mr. Eldee, no one is directing jabs at you. For all that it is, I always enjoy your arguments mainly because you always try to refrain from personal abuses (like some people do) and hold your stand on issues.

Y'all were more on the video is WACK, it's not crisp and not just a quality video. you guys made it look like it was shot with a digicamera, that's why i said There are wacker videos. Don't crucify MODENINE. Free him for once.

@Java. . .
Brother, How do you does

Genuflect:

See this one. We dey talk about Mode 9's video, you dey talk about my[b] music career[/b]. Lol. As I will always say, you Modey's fans won't cease to amaze me. If that video is wack, stop making silly excuses and cope with reality. No be the same Mode 9 get Elbow Room video? I no even understand wetin una dey yearn sef. You are not even as annoying as I expected. I'm still waiting for Rhymestein. LmaoBaba, I no dey go church today jor. I'm having FlashBacks. Lol
04ka, why you sef go dey yearn like this? We know making tight videos is not easy but isn't Modey a star, sorry planet? And na una go dey yearn say [b]dude get money well well? So which one make we believe?[/b]

Believe what you see and I'm sure what you see is that he ain't doing bad.

I'm sorry I mentioned career, you don't have one yet. What you have now is music interest. Get out of the illusion. When we talk about wack videos, you always think it is about money. That shows the sorry a.ss direction your brains are.

9ce made a debut album that sold (as they say) millions of copies, he did about three or four videos (after people have waited long enough) and all of them were just wack. Maybe 9ce doesn't have enough money tooo!!!

Genuflect:

These Mode Nine fans won't cease to make me laugh. Bouzy, na on top one video, na im you go write secondary school debate? Lmao. Honestly, I've not watched the video so I can't really judge. But if the video's quality is below par, why do you guys want to break your neck to prove otherwise? For una eyes, Mode 9 does nothing wrong. Shior. Oshi oda

Who the F.ck are you. I' not sure but I think you "rap" too. how many of your joints have made it to the radio Do you even have one wack video to your credit you are just a man visible in the mirror of his words,

tosinaded@:

How does your meaningless episle make the video any better?
For sum1 dat f3els alujo is wack. . . .its funny and ridiculous how u managed to compose all this crap to make a bad video look good. . . .

Is it you or the way you think? I said Alujo's video is wack, not the joint itself. Plus i gave my own personal review of the "Modenine's video" to be too minimalistic videos and I still put it that there are wacker videos out there. what part of that is too difficult for you to understand


Ok. The video is wack wack and wack. Does that sound better Simpletons.

I think the video is alright. Not too tyte for me but I got the concept. Something like "naija celebrity spoof". My own opinion about the video is that, they wanted to make something minimalistic, but they pushed too much on that, that it almost lost actions and all the supposed sh.t. But you know there are "wacker" videos out there and you just don't have to crucify this because it's Modenine.

And also, I don't really think Good videos rely on money as some are putting it here. I think it is more on the concept and the director. Money would buy you great location and all that, but it won't buy you concept. I heard "OD' shot his video in South Africa, and that sh.t is still wack to me, I'm very sure the money Modenine used to make this video is still enough to make a better video.

So, let's just stop talking about money like Modenine is a down ass pauper who can't feed himself. He's been on his own for quite some time now, and I don't think any rumour made it to the magazine that he's not getting his hands to his mouth. Besides, over the years that we've been on this NAIRALAND, there was never a time he was homeless. He lives in his crib and pays his own bills and ever since he keeps popping up to the top spot while most of you still live with your parents (y'all know yourselves"

He has come out with his own school of thought, if you're not with him, then free him, and let him run his shows the way he wants, those who like him would follow,

We all come on this Nairaland and make our so called "opinions" like whatever we say is law. We all come here to criticize their career while they feed on those criticisms to move to the top, Modenine is poor | Tuface lied about R.Kelly collabo |Tuface didn't do sh.t with MJB, etc." Why don't you ask yourself, "Have I achieved half of what these guys have achieved in thier lives?" am not saying we all should go into music, but look at your chosen career, are you the best in it? Quit over emphasizing sh.ts all because you want to present your critique.

But anywayz like I'Technique says, "for every beautiful damsel, there's a man that bleeps her like a bitch". . . Even the best artiste of all time has his/her own haters.

You can call me a stan. . . but what it is, is what it is. I know the truth has been injected already.

[size=8pt]ON CODA.FM, YOU WILL FIND DRAKE, J COLE AND ANY ALBUM, EVEN THERE IS ASHA ON THE ALBUM.

TALKING ABOUT ALBUM DOWNLOADS, I CAN'T COUNT MY DOWNLOADS ANYMORE, ROCK, SOUL, WORLD, COUNTRY TO MY ENCYCLOPEDIA OF REAL HIPHOP.[/size]

chiogo:

^^ Ok, thanks. My lyrics website fooled me, usually effective. I like how she manipulated the word, "genius" with "jeanius". Nice one.

I'll listen to her. Whoo!! So much work this summer, I mean so many songs to listen to. I need more space on my Ipod. lol

Do you download torrents and have a very good internet bandwidth? if you do, you might consider buying a new HD cos if i have a music torrent site that has virtually everything, from rock, country, hiphop, soul, world music, everything,

www.coda.fm

Now that's one of my goldmines. Anyone with virusless download site should share pls. . .

chiogo:

That "Love song" is tight.

She seems to have been in the game for a while now, never heard of her till now. The album is "Attack of the Attacking Things". She has other ones: "The Bootleg of the Bootleg", "This Week", and "Jeanius". They all have fewer than 5 songs, what's up with that?

Yeah She's been in the game and stayed too underground. . .

Jeanius' Back Cover



This Week Album traklist
01 - Intro
02 - A-Alikes
03 - Skit
04 - Going Crazy / Skit
05 - Style Wars (Feat. Block McCloud)
06 - Not Like Me
07 - Supa Luv
08 - Whatever
09 - Give It Up
10 - The Wall
11 - Skit
12 - You Don't Want It
13 - Watch Me
14 - P.S. / Outro
15 - Fyre Blazer (Bonus Track)
16 - Don't Rush Me (Bonus Track)

eldee:



Immortal Technique is an agenda artist, you either agree with his views or you see them as extremely daft.
Listen to 'Cause of Death' and see how daft he comes across. . .

Oh . . . so you wanna go all Marxist on me now?? Egbon, relax abeg.
Immortal Technique shows signs of someone who's read too much from controversy websites and mixed it with anger against the Criminal Justice System.
Besides, if you say school is telling you how to think, doesn't Immortal Technique do just that too??

Ahhhhhhh, That's something about most revolutionary artist or even writer. They show you why someone is bad even when the person in question is sen by everyone around as the best. Hence giving you another direction of judging the person. Example is Fela's description of Shagari as the most dangerous in African Leaders. I was watching the interview when he presented his reasons, I was liike yeah. yeah. yeah. whatever, but you know, that stayed in my mind even till now. that's their ways.

Immortal technique do say some things I dont agree to, especially when it comes to religious themes and all that but I just like him because I actually know he's intelligent. He actually studied Political Science, though I think he dropped out.

eldee:

Off-topic

Did I mention that I've met Immortal Technique before?? At the O2 . . . the British Music Experience Event.
He wasn't performing or anything, funny enough we were the only ones that recognised him.

that's really cool.  .   .  He's not really known cos his niche in underground hiphop is not just what people are feeling anymore. and these people are just in love with what they do, they won't switch their style for nothing.

bgees:


These guys don't make songs every now and then but when they do , it always shows they have a clear understanding of politics and other issues.

Dead Prez!! Word. that's the truth.

Let's Get Free - Classic Album

Get Free or Die trying - Got the mixtape but I have never heard one track

Can't sell Dope forever (with Outlawz) - "Fork in the road" - One of my favourite in my best "20"

Dead Prez too,

Krayola:

@eldee. Nice post.

I don't understand the logic behind the claim that people that do not make conscious music are uninformed, or just can't be bothered. Maybe that's just not what they want rap about. Na by force?

it will be stupid for anyone to claim that people not making conscious music are uninformed. That is wrong. Music is not always about politics.

There are two two school of thoughts in music. one says MUSIC should teach and the other says Music should entertain and also there's a school that supports the two. The main point is good music is good music, politics or no politics.

This post is about HipHop political perspective and that's why we are leaning towards that,

eldee:

@Bouzymill

You listen to some rappers talk about politics and ignorance just pours out . . . and you wonder why people will rather listen to them talk about rims?? It's what they do best, making music is easier for them than being socio-political icons.
It's not bad though, hiphop is about self-expression for black people, they're mirrors of the world they grew up in, and that world didn't include CNN.

In my opinion, it's quite good to be politically active and all that, but it's not a duty.
Their main purpose should be to make [b]good music, and that's the only thing you can fault them for.[/b]
I'd rather Young Jeezy stuck to bling . . . 'My President is black, My lambo's blue' just doesn't sound right.

I am not saying everyone in hiphop should be political.   .   . The post is about POLITICAL TORCH IN HIP-HOP AND THE CONTEMPORARY TORCHBEARERS and I said we don't have much of that anymore because of the reason I stated (lack of knowledge.

eldee:

hiphop is about self-expression for black people, they're mirrors of the world they grew up in, and that world didn't include CNN.

CNN was just a figurative language for political consciousness, not to be interpreted literally. History of blacks in the US and other black nations is boring without the politics. Everything that happened is connected to politics. And that's the mirror through which they see the world.

eldee:

I've listened to Immortal Technique talk . . . he actually sounds quite intelligent in interviews, unlike in his albums.
He's good with words and all . . . but when he starts the[b] controversy B.S, they just don't make sense.[/b]
That's the difference between hearing someone that learnt in school and one that learnt on Wikipedia.

You are the first person that would tell me IMMORTAL TECHNIQUE is not intelligent and that sounds kind of absurd because this brother is INTELLIGENT. period.

THERE IS REALLY NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LEARNING FROM SCHOOL AND WIKIPEDIA. THEY ARE BOTH PROPAGANDA, What you see is what you get. that's the best way to learn.

Vacora:

For me, it'll be the following MCs:
Talib Kweli.
Dead Prez.
Little Brother - apparently the group is now defunct.
The Roots.
Mos Def.
Mad Villian aka Victor Vaughn aka MF Doom

I co-sign all these people for real. . . what was I even thinking. However, I stil lgot a problem with little brother making it to you guys' list. I'm just finding it difficult to place my mind on any Political record from Little Brother. I cant just place one joint from them. Their own revoolution is against the politics of Music industry

chiogo:

That would be hax with his mean/witty lines. 

Jean Grae, who's that?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ES-6ALVLqA0

this is "my" most favourite track from her and my best 10 in hiphop so far.

She is, in my own opinion, the most underrated Female Emcee in Hip Hop. She rolls with em Talib Kweli (Blacksmith Movement) and had collaborated with 9th wonder in various projects. I think she got three or more ablums to her credit.

Attack the Attacking things and .   .    .  forgot the title of the albums,