javalove:

on the average, it takes a rapper almost a year to drop an album (it takes a rug head man more than 2 years to release one)

Modenine is releasing 2 albums in 2 years. .

The album wont be released on the said date but in a dew weeks, he cooked up a mixtape. . .

I M BIGGER THAN U LYRICALLY, FORGET ABOUT SIZE!!!!!!!!!!

Malcom IX

Pentium IX

E Pluribus Unum

NiggelBenn Krafswork:The Soul Edition

Mode Ova Premo

Chapter 9

09-09-09

untitled album [still cookin in d kitchen]


In the space of how many years? 2004 - 2009 [5 years] 7 materials,

Even if person dey release bullshit wiv these level, he's goin to be relevant let alone a man that releases strong material

my instinct told me rugged did his first album before him, the result is 2 albums in 6 years

AM NOT BEEFING, JUST STATING THE OBVIOUS

skingo:

bobo aint got shit. bobo tryn make noise. terry and od left his back. they sounding better commercial and it makes u appreciate their creativity. kip rapping about physics. i no be learned mind. abi how javalove say am. this dejiariyo bastid. them don give me your gist for london. shebi na midlands u dey. ok na. boys go treat your f up. u dey misyan bout skingo abi

Dem never ban this guy!!! Skingo, Skingo. Heard Mode9 ft. YQ and OD. That's just to tell you nobody's leavin nobody. How your Ogba Crips and Bloods? My regards to them. U get mouth reach London. O lenu Kpa. When Sauce go release album now? the guy dey reasonably irrelevant. Give us his latest gist now, Abi u no be him mouth piece?

dammiecool:

@all Rugged hater stop makin noise
Ruggedy is here with a big Banggggg!!

Yeah!! Ironically obvious. After Bangin, what else?

We need consistent artists, the only way you can be consistent is when you are doing what you want to do not what anyone wants you to do. Rugged should take a cue from that. or maybe maga neva pay!!!!

malcolmx:

"I emerged from the Mr. lyricist with an urge to start a movement so let the real heads converge, "-Mode9

Yeah man, hiphop lives. even though the music has been grossly twisted by the Nigerian media, the real heads are workin hard to move up the genre. On my own part, i'm keepin the culture alive with my blog realhiphopng..com

Props to all the emcees keepin it ill >>> Mode9, Str8 Buttah, Blaise, M.I, illbliss e.t.c
More props to the radio hosts/O.A.Ps who've kept the art alive >>>> JAJ da Mecca Don, Mike Magic, Eldee XL, HNIC Dr. Gee, Chucks da Spaceman, Andre Blaze, Elvis da Chiefrocka e.t.c
Props too to the beat makers and Djs >>>> G-Lynx, Jo-Kaynie, ID Cabasa, DJ Humility, Kraft, Mr. Ish, Jonah de Monarch, Mr. Books, Frenzy, Kokomiko e.t.c

nice lookin bruv, welcome on board

g.a.b:

@ Bouzymill; don't worry about the ''unbaptized'' we'll just ignore em'. Listening to ''orinthology'' by Charlie parker and Miles davis, some Jazz to stimulate my

mental. you mentioned soul earlier, remember Erikah Badu's baduism? Angie stone's Mahogany soul? If freestyles are your thing then you need to check out

Juice and supernat's, Jin versus Verse, that chinky eyed dude eats emcees for breakfast! Did ya'll know prodigy did the ''shook ones'' beat? hola

Baduizm is a classic, she released an album afterwards but not really impressive. Angie Stone, ofcourse, Stone Love is my deal, Jill Scott, Musiq SoulChild (but goin bla bla these days), Raheem Devaughn, Bilal (D joint he did with Scarface on emeritus 'Cant Get Right' is a big revival for him), Keziah Jones (My nigger bruva). Like freestyles but i love when it's been worked on and you know that make your rhymes heavy with words, not light stuff, but for fun, i dig it, i watch BET's Freestyle Fridays, but not really a fan. JUice, Supernat, don't know these guys

g.a.b:

I've got all of their albums except for chaundon and krondon, any album you could think of, no matter how obscure. who's your fave producer? undoubtably Dj

premier for me, then pete rock, 9th wonder, jazzy jeff etc, i live and breathe hiphop, Always happy to know we've still got bro's like ya'll still holding it down with the foundation

maybe i should let you know, you sound like a producer and sincerely you are chatting with a producer who is mad at sampling. A'm a fan of 9th wonder. that's why i have loveall the albums from justus league i collected from a friend, chaudon is in justus league with em 9th, lil brother, legacy,

I have beats av made and sincerely i know am on point, would love to share my beats with you. Still looking for me to uppgrage, .cant wait for that day i'll lay my hands on a MPC and Techniques turntable with Fela's samples, i would kill myself on it.

g.a.b:

Thought i should start a thread for my real heads on Nairaland. A lot of people listen to this bubble gum rap on ringtone sounding beats and think they know

what rap is, personally, i hold the opinion that hiphop/rap lovers should have a fundamental knowledge of the genre, i mean, on TV, musicians such as D'banj and Timaya

are often classified as HipHop artistes! What have you been listening to if you have'nt heard Krs; the blueprint, Rakim and Eric b;follow the leader, LL cool J; mama said

knock you out, [b]Gangstarr;daily operation, guru;Jazzmatazz, Group home;living proof, Big L, The Roots, Common, Pete Rock and CL Smooth, Mos Def, Talib Kweli, Rob O, Grap

luva, Souls of Mischief, Cella Dwellas, Non Phixion, Big Daddy Kane[/b], etc. the list is too long, on this side of the continent we have Proverb, K'naan, Mode 9, str8buttah,

Thoroughbreds, Capital O, Khali, SoulJazz, etc. i recently heard a joint from Alibai produced by Paul Play,TYTE! African HipHop is on the rise

http://www.africanhiphop.com/africanhiphopdownloads/africanhiphop-mixtape-the-sequel-2009

For years me and several of my friends have been compiling a Rap music library/database worth about 6.7 terabytes in memory, of classic albums, rare singles and

underground rappers that have been slept on. If there's one thing i know, it's ''once you go rap you can't go back''

Hit me up lets dialogue, network and share tracks. PEACE.

wow wow wow wow!!!! just when i thought Naija knew nothing about real hip hop. I won't front, i dont have up to 40 gig sincerely but av got rare albums which are worth it,

Heard Alabai and i can bring out my favs i nthe album. track 2 aint bad, after the pseudonyms skit, from the reaggeton down to End of \story, that was straight Dope. it was like listening to Scarface in his getoboys days. Alabai didn't surprise me anywayz, who actually surprised me was PaulPlay who did justice to them beats for the aforementioned tracks. I have to admit that paul play must be a real head, to make beats like that.

Yeah!!! Africans are not doing bad at all. People like Zubs, HHP, Proverb, ProKid, DA L.E.S, capital O is optical illusion, XOD, Skwatta Kamp are tearing south Africa. Moe9, OD, Str8 Buttah, Kaliphate, M.I,i guess , and some underground Cats are doign us proud. But when it comes to the Realness and and the HipHop stance and culture, South Africa beats Naija to it.

About HipHop being used for Timaya and Dbanj; what you could see is that some people listen to music without the knowledge of it. Most don't know the differences in the genres, so everything banging is hiphop. Ignorance of listeners is better, what would you say to Artist who doesnt know the genre is doing?Am sre Timaya doesn't know he aint doing reaggeton, cos there's no placei n the ideology or reagge for artists to brag about materialism, but mostof em just get to music str8 from their boombox without checking the history. there are lots of em like that, but what do we do, we dig for what's good and cop,


Am also in love with rock, Soul, Neo Soul and anything good music. ready to share files. Waiting for Real Heads to jump on this forum. I won't be surprise to see Rotheads pollute this forum or see this forum go nowhere just cos we not talking abot p square's new track or Dbanj and all of em,

g.a.b:

KRS, RAKIM, MOS-DEF, GURU, COMMON, NAS, B.I.G, BIG L, BRAND NUBIAN, EPMD,

GROUP HOME, LARGE PROFFESOR, JERU THE DAMAGER, LORD FINESSE, DEL THE FUNKY HOMOSAPIEN, 7L AND ESOTERIC, FOREIGN EXCHANGE, ROOTS MANUVA,

JMT, ETC,, So, all my real heads out there, hit me up

''The history of my HipHop ist too deep to be dissected''

This is deep,
It's very easy to know when guys are not just mentioning random names!!! Men, you are kinda deep in the east kind of realness, got the latest DJ Premo's Rare Play. Groupp Home has a dope joint it, Jeru The Damaja: Yeah, Bigups to the original Crooklyn Dodger. Lord Finnese, Del thy Homosapien, 7L and Esoeric, it's been long i heard from them. They not really bringin out LPs or Eps anymore, am ready to share albums anywayz. I can't give without taking, cos it aint easy to dig albums,

more names,

Jedi Mind Tricks - got their history of violence album

D and D all stars

Gangsterrr - guru and premo

Blaq Poet

Lords of the underground

Royce Da 5'9


Anyone heard of SLAUGHTERHOUSE? - royce Da 5'9, Joel Ortizz, Joe Budden [i hat this guy], Crooked I

Chino XL

Infamous Mobb

L.E.G.A.C.Y

Chaundon

Krondon

Strong Arm Steady

~I AM THE SUPERHUMAN HIP HOP KID~

@obinaa, oh! thanx brah, neva knew it was a grup name. thought he was d only one in st. elsewhere, @iice, yeah! mandela's intro 'i listen 2 talib kweli and dj hitek, '

~Sauron~:

I wasn't talking about the voice in ma first reply
The focus was on Mode-9's style and the structure of his rhymes.
After listening hard and comparing to M-I, i realised there was a huge similarity in the voices too.

I am not here to put Mode-9 down. . . . .I just made an observation.
Do u see anything wrong with that? At the end of the day, it's just ma opinion, innit?

I don't have any reason not to like Mode-9's guts.
Several mainstream rappers have been accused of sounding like some other rappers.
There's nothing new in that. . . . . .Biggie sounded like Usher on "Playa Hater". . . . Nothing new in that as well.

it's all gud then. No need to drag too far. and sincerely at the end of it all, it's your opinion and it counts. so, for me am just dig it like that. But how can Biggie sound like usher, not even on the "player hater" u mentioned. It'sa not possible for someone that has a voice like Biggie to sound like usher, it's like saying Modenine sounds like Djinee, where he wan take see am, make him dey drink hot water every now aand then, it is impossible. but i won't drag that too. Lez see how their albums (mode9 nd MI) would look.

mekula:


any albums from Common - I have all albums except Universal Mind Control plus "Uncommon Classics"
Digable Planets - they've even forgotten they were in Rap before -Don't have their album
Slum Village(southside Hip hop, not crunk) - Got Fantastic album and Elzhi's album, one of them died 2 months ago, Baatin. U know that?
Dilated peoples - The platform, Expansion team. Got the two albums plus Babu's duck season three
KRS-ONE - Got different tracks plus one old album, Hip Hop lives is kinda wack
Rah(Rakeem) - Paid in Full, Got a 30tracker mixtape, only Rakeem
Goodie Mob(old albums though, do u remember ceelo of gnarls barkley? thats was his former crew) - He's not Ceelo of Gnarles Barkley, he is Gnarles Barkley formally Ceelo
MOBB DEEP(of course before they joined G-u nuts)- Hell on Earth, that's what i got
hey!! listen to Prodigy's H.N.I.C, Head Nigga In Charge. thats one sick but solemn album especially the last track; "u can never feel my pain"
LITTLE BROTHER(southside hip hop) - got all their Albums prod. by khrysis and 9th wonder, ALL THEIR ALBUMS get back, minstrel show, listening, seperated but equal cant remember plus Phonte and Poo's individual albums
mick boogie, i have the MCEO he did with Talib Kweli
Talib Kweli - I have Focus, E[/b]ar Drum Talib and HiTek: Reflection Eternal, MCEO mixtape, Blackstar with Mos Def
Big shug - [b]Don't really know him
9th wonder - Ofcourse my Mentor, got Videos of his studio sessions plus Dream Merchant and Jeanius with Jean Grae, The Formula with Buckshot
screwball -- don't really know him
MOS DEF!!!!!!!!! - Ofcourse, Black on Both Sides, Blackstar, tru3 Magic and ofcourse collabos
u already said scarface(thats one hell of a rapper) i HAVE MOST SCARFACE, DIGITAL AND cd FORMAT
Devin the dude(perverted style of rap but with a lot of realism, humour and "talesmanship" - COLLABOS WITH PEOLE, n ot my kinda rapper
these are just some of those that come readily to mind now. there are lots more i could come up with when i hit my cd rack.

Those are the albums av got

Yeah!!! come up with more names and more underground shit!!! i'll jhump on it. And if anyone wanna doubt me, then come up with a way of verifying

@Sauron

~Sauron~
Posts: 13561
Re: Mode 9 Sounding Like M.I.
« #42 on: September 07, 2009, 08:34 PM »
There are only about 28 styles in existence based on 7 fundamentally different structures.
Only 20 of them are considered usable and enjoyable to a listener’s ear/readers eyes which are based on 5 different structures
Mode-9 in his wisdom has been using a particular style in all the songs i have heard from him and his rhyme pattern/structure in the song in scrutiny is a total deviation from his usual style and by coincidence happens to be the same rap pattern M.I.'s been using.

I am not talking of the voice here. . . . .I am talking about the structure of his verse in that song.

~Sauron~:

Rhyme pattern, flow and the voice too.
The more you listen to that song, the more you see the similarities.
Mode-9 should know better.

Guy,  which one do ou want us to listen to. You specifically stated in that first quote that u aint tlaking bout the voice at all and here now,  you said it is everything plus the voice.

I now understand fully what is going on. Caliente started a thread, coincidentally Eldee and you have talked about the same thing on the same day and you guyz even took over the whole thing without caliente dropping any credence to his assertions. I guess the whole thing would just be running in a circus. The issue better be dropped.

Rhyme pattern, flow and the voice too.
Lez just say it was M.I that did the Track in the name of Modenine. I pray God Helps the Mode9 guy. You guys don't like his guts at all. but it's all good after all. And the ironic part of it is Modenine is leaning to the side of you guys than his real fans, cos he keeps dumbing down every other day.

One.

DBR:

Okido, back n topic.
M9 sounds like Mi on "Badman"
I say Nope, he sounds hoarse(some call this a new one)
Some say he was bitin M.i but later said they only pointin out the semblance in voice.
That view wasnt cuttin it so they switch to FLOW,that d  Rhyme pattern was M.I

Exactly, ambiguity

kay29000:

Yeah. I have heard the song, and yeah, mode does sound like m.i. yOU CAN ONLY DENY THAT IF U dont have a good ear for voices, or u are a mode fan.

Everything is going ambiguous right about now. Someone brought out the issue (caliente) aand the tyopic he chosed is "Mode9 Sounding like M. I". Eldee [/b]concurred and quote his convo with[b] "Sleek Greene" [/b]who also co-signs that [b]the artist sounds like M.I. Sleeke greene a.k.a Sauron came up to say its not about the sound really but the structre/pattern of rhymes. Now [b]Kay29000 [/b]is here again to say No, He sounds like M.I.

Which exactly re you guys tlking about? The sound or the Structure? PLs. Lez get it straight here.

ok,  now i can chat.

@ Saurone
Talking about style, the worst thing in life is to argue ignorantly and loose to the obvious at the end of the day. So, i took my time to check if i could get something on what you said about number of standard styles and all that. I could not lay my hands on any really. But i still think i have to put forth some arguments.

Style generally in literary works (as rap happens to be) differs from genre to genre, period to period, writer to writer, country to country and bla bla bla. Since we're talkingabout rap as a genre, we have genre out of the show and left with other bla bla ble,  NOw here, we're talking bout one artist,  Common for example has evolved from "Can I Borrow a Dollar" - "Ressurection" - "Be" - "Universal Mind Control". Anyone that has folowed this whole albums would know he has evolved from rapidly fast(as a result of that period 1992-1994) to slower slower and more vivd. These are still Bla Bla Bla.

Now to go to the point, even in the "Finding Forever" album, i can bring out three different styles Common used in the album. "The Game" has a voice of that hungry emcee who just don't want to stop eating rhymes. "Black MayBe" has the voice of common sounding like a cry baby cos of the theme of the track, picking his words one after the other. "SouthSide" shows Common on the hyper active side, similar to "The Game" but different cos he still sounds vivid here. Now bla bla bla again

Talking about Mode9. You can't compare Mode9 on Pentium IX to Chapter 9. Even in Chapter 9, Three different Tracks sounds different. "Crazy" is of more reaggeton. "The one with Eve Hurrah "From my Heart" or sumthing, has the voice Mode9 on a subtle level while "Nine" has modenine controlling the beat, that is on top of his game. Now these styles are most of the time not deliberate or controlled by the beat or controlled by the theme. The arguments i want to put forward:

1. Perhaps, The Dirty South Beat had Modenine on another level, cos he's a newbie to it

2. Listening to the music tells me, The Mic Distortion that was done for the chorus was just reduced for the verses and not totally off. meaning, the mic was distorted a lil'beat, perhaps

3. The structure of  rhyme is usually controlled by the beat,  unless the beat, is an open one,  and that beat is not that open

4. We've seen M.I lyrically destroyed South Beats, the list is endless, But Mode has just done it, so it makes hime sound M.Iish.

5. Mode9 didn't do it purposely.

What do you think?

anywayz, d last thing i'ld do is 2 drag myself into makin anyone my internet enemy. we're all here 2 share views and we should be civil about it, atleast no one knows one anoda outside d pseudonyms. lemme jez add 2 wat u guys are saying, jayz is not jez ready 2 go. d.o.a is nt a bad track, but jay wasnt doin d real 'blueprint' on others av heard. bt wat he has in mind, i guess, is d market, dat is y rihanna dominates easily.

@eldee guy, y u soundin pathetic like u are. who's runnin 4rm d truth? i askd a simple questn on ur gangbangin bullshit, u cldnt reply. guy, u are jst a hater. modenine nw tries 2 cum down 2 ur level, u are screamin. wen m.i did illegalmusic mixtape, no one said he's copyin nigelben's kraftwork. mode has diff. styles. already sumone has sued jayz 4 copying d whisper style dat sumone says belongs 2 m.i here.

Re: Who's Got Lyrics: Ruggedman Or Modenine?
« #139 on: October 01, 2007, 07:45 PM »

@Tjscale
At least, i respect u for the fact that u appreciate good rap tunes. The simple explanation is that after rugged redefined the rap industry, naija rap started getting too hardcore and too fake. The fact is that mode is too fake for nigerians. The only way u feel his lyrics is if u actually grew up in the streets of new york, with drug dealers and drive-by gang killing. he just can't describe the agberos' and the bus drivers.(Don't mention Stylee. that was the worst piece of shit he ever spat out). And listen to rugged's opinion

Lez put it this way. You never said Mode did rhyme on drive bys but you said those that can feel him are gangbangers, drug dealers, drive-by gang killing and so on. Are you not contradicting yourself? How can he possibly do a track they'll feel if the theme of his music don't relate to theirs?

eldee:

I never ever said Modenine did rhymes on drive-bys . . . I said he could relate to the average Nigerian
I made a simple point . . . the average Nigerian at that time didn't feel Modenine
Ruggedman made a career off that simple fact.

What Nigerians needed then was a soft landing . . . and there it was
Modenine came four years too early . . . c'est fini, he knows that, i know that, I'm hoping you'll recognise tht fact too.
Eedris - Ruggedman - Terry tha Rapman - Modenine/M.I
It was a transition and it finally came . . .so what for Bleep's sake is wrong with that??

Not all Nigerians need a softlanding. You can't generalize like that cos am a Nigerian and i don't choose music by its softness. I choose by the content and not the form.

Anoher pointer to the fact that you don't really know anything about the hiphop history in Nigeria is your timeline or your "transition" as you called it, cos there are gaps to be filled, TRYBESMEN had influence on Nigerian Hip Hop, SWATROOT had influence, They've been on the game before Eedris. Most of em are still here that was why i added 2shotz in my earlier post.

eldee:

I still listen to[b] Nas and Jay-Z today[/b], infact I'm staying up on the 11th for the I-tunes release of BP3, so I really don't get your point
Let me just add the fact all you need to identify this obvious copy-paste is a pair of working ears.
You've not made one valid point here . . . apart from the fact that Eldee loves Nas . . . Big Deal!!!

What i'm saying is the "realest" hiphop you've heard in your life probably comes from JayZ, Nas, Tupac, BIG, you aint qualified to speak about Real Hip Hop. You sound like a Pop-Rap Fan. I'm sure you love P Diddy, Loon and a little of Fabulous.

The real problem you have with mode9 on Badman is you listening to him for the first time on a ditry south beat.

@ Eldee

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Re: Who's Got Lyrics: Ruggedman Or Modenine?
« #139 on: October 01, 2007, 07:45 PM »

@Tjscale
              At least, i respect u for the fact that u appreciate good rap tunes. The simple explanation is that after rugged redefined the rap industry, naija rap started getting too hardcore and too fake. The fact is that mode is too fake for nigerians. The only way u feel his lyrics is if u actually grew up in the streets of new york, with drug dealers and drive-by gang killing. he just can't describe the agberos' and the bus drivers.(Don't mention Stylee. that was the worst piece of shit he ever spat out). And listen to rugged's opinion
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More,  https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=8056.msg1548222#msg1548222

Eldee, This is you 2 years ago!!! How can you say a thing like this,  another post is this:

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Quote from: kaydee on October 02, 2007, 07:05 PM
Right on man
Yeah! Save yourself the stress of schooling fools. They will never understand.Ask them who the best rapper ever is and they will tell you it's 50Cent. He's just too deep for them.
He's far above their level. I'll advice them to listen to more of Ruggedman and 2Shot,even Delicious Grin . I bet they don't know who Overdose is.
-Nas

dude, no-one is not understanding mode now, (and even if they don't, it doesn't make them fools), but the fact that they don't feel him, doesn't mean they don't understand him. and bro, i listen to more nas, jay and pac than u could ever imagine but that does not kill the fact that i need the nigerian feel in nigerian songs.  since modenine does not have that, i don't think he should be rated as the best in nigeria.
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Nas Jayz Pac,  you two years [/b]ago

Re: Who's Got Lyrics: Ruggedman Or Modenine?
« #147 on: October 03, 2007, 12:45 AM »

[b]some people are jobless man, i mean listen to bouzymill and kaydee talk. you guys are not making sense. eldee is the shit man.(at least so he thinks) so please people leave the madman alone. abi na by force? how would you ever make sense to a person who aint got it? and eldee? you want something nigerian, i'll give it to you, oo gbon. and thats basic.

45 told you this back then,

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Re: Who's Got Lyrics: Ruggedman Or Modenine?
« #176 on: October 06, 2007, 09:22 AM »

Who's got the lyrics? Mode, Who's got the fans?Rugged
U only need to check out his my space page to understand this; he's the most featured rapper in Nigeria, i.e you don't have to buy his album to listen to his songs, that who I call a sucessful artiste.
http://www.myspace.com/ruggedmannigerian

Does he still hold this stance now? Mode9, 2shotz, eldee are still ON and Banging


Now!!! See where you lost it!!! 2 years ago you barely know the true meaning of hip hop!!!! Now you come here after 2 years to add another dust

MODE SOUNDED LIKE M.I ON BADMAN

Bros,  You no try

eldee:

Your defense is laughable . . .
Because it's coming from Moi, it's a lie?? Come on!!!

I know you're trying to bring up the fact that Lil Wayne has a major inflence on M.I's delivery . . . but all I see is a shameless attempt at covering the obvious truth.
I don't care what M.I used to sound like . . . I don't care to know what  Uni he went to.

But one thing I'm sure is, this rapper on the track I got from Lalaboi's Businessfiles is an M.I impersonator.
Experimenting, testing . . . whatever the Bleep he's doing . . . I just liket see people tell the truth when they see it or not bother to reply at all.
I'm sure even Modenine won't deny it . . . saying Modenine didn't have M.I in his mind while doing this song 'is like saying Naeto C never heard of T.I'

Now,  you want to aact like, Yeah!!! you've got the truth and erryone can juz suckup to your judgment. Nah,  I remember that time on one of "the old modenine thread", were u not the one who said mode9's lyrics av got lots of Gangbanging stuff, etc,  Ever since then, I see you as sumone who got the meaning of hiphop from the mainstream point of view. Am not dissing ,  it's just awkward to say that Mode9 sounded like M.I  on badman,  cos that's the definiiton of Blasphemy,  Fine, Mode9 on that track was trying to do a radio friendly joint which M.I is very good at,  but that M9 sounded like,  That's not just it,

and about swagga jackin? you've just done line jacking too!!!
'is like saying Naeto C never heard of T.I'
abi no be so?

And what the Bleep is Swagga Jacking?
You sound like an African Lost in the Labyrinth of two Cultures!!!

slimshay:

@ bouzymill, abeg if u get the authentic story, make we hear am oh.
anyways iv said my bit before, if u dnt want to hear about your mother on a song, dont mention another person's mother on any song. U know what they say, 'if knock on the devil's door hard enough, someone will surely come and get the door'.

Yeah, Heard the real story from a very reliable source even before the whole shit broke out like this,  but i'll just summarize it in a way,

It was a call for something @ the wrong time, A felt disrespected and B felt disrespected cos A felt disrespected? so, A was quick to take a swing @ the other,  so,  so,  so,  that's the best i can say, cos it's not my story and i don't work for non of em,

now guys be acting like good fellas, this is Diss, anything can come out, if you're so sensitive with "mama" issues, you limit your stunts, This is not Fuji remember?
Though, am not happy with mode9 responding to those irrelevant young boiz, but the point is dissing his mama is not a new thing, it is battle!!! and that's what they do? you'ld hear Ghetto P's response, unless he's just messing with the wrong guy,


and the issue of what led to the Ghetto P dissing Mode9, you guyz only listen to the half baked news they give you, there's always more to it and indeed there's more to this,

I know why guys are now shouting it is wrong, basically because it was MODENINE that said it, U just too hate the guy

Rhymstein:

If i may ask wots goin commercial?Who told u guyz musicians dont want to be commercial?Some of u here no dey undastand issues.When he released d track dont hate,was it not commercial?Was mode9 cry,nigerian girls not commercial,terry's na beanz was it not commercial?If they werent how did ppl become familiar wit d songs.Is not only party/danceable tracks that r commercial guyz cos alabai's voice of God was commercial.Even 2shorts carry am go,ruggeds ehen.And all these talk abt modey slowin od n terry down r lies.Terry's shake yo shangbash,n d remix wit od no be party track?When im sing am shey him n mode no be friends.Mode was n stil rulecleans pal b4 n afta d song wetin i want.There's a diff btw dumbin down n goin commercial.N no be only terry g n k solo kind beat na im be commercial.Every catchy song can be commercial,it only depends on how u promote n quit d talk abt mode is slowin his guys down because od n terry v been doin party tracks b4 n their track if i catch u hen was b4 sample(is that not a commercial track that is not danceable)mode was in that video.He wldnt be if he was against it.

You've done a good job here, explaining it correctly,  what most people don't know is that there's MUSIC and there's MUSIC BUSINESS,  the term "MUSIC" is more of the standard (talent, lyrical ability,  knowledge of the art, etc.) while music business is the FINANCIAL SIDE of the art where MUSIC is then used in practical application,

now, either Cobhams is on the production or Terry G,  once it is going to an album for sale it's all commercial
asha's tracks are commercial, Dare's Not the GIrl, no matter how much standards he puts into the composition, is commercial, 

Where the term "commercial" began to be narrowed down is when most artists of prefer to sacrifice the knowledge side of things, lyrical side of things and most of all, standard side of things to just go for "beatmakers" that will create ringtone beats and they can say whatever is it in their mouth they have to. e.g COLLABO,

so,  all in all,  they are all commercial, some are just lyrically richer than others,

~Sauron~:

Biggie respected RAKIM?? Where did that happen??
Christopher Wallace had no influence and this is why a lot of MCs believe he is the G.O.A.T.
His style was different. He doesn't write rhymes like 99.99% of em rappers.
Just give BIG some weed and a beat he can ride and watch him flow ceaselessly from his fat head.
He was unique so leave that RAKIM theory outta it.

I've been following this thread for some time now and i've actually decided not to join any discussions on Mode9 and Ruggedman, it is becoming a kind of computer error called "cyclic redundancy" - repeating the same shit everytime.

However, saying B.I.G had no influence is a total blasphemy. the fact that he doesn't rhyme like anyone else still does not buttress the fact that he hasn't been influenced by sumone. And ask yourself, How did he contact rap? In his dreams?, and maybe you want to hear it or not, BIGGIE respected RAKIM.

Ruggedman and Mode9, maybe you don't even know Ruggedman is fast fading out of fame, there are better Commercial rappers now. MTRILL, M.I, a whole lots of them. You can contest it but first compare him; now to 2 years aback

I now have 2 modenine's albums. I put ma cash to help/elevate that Arrow and yet he cannot rap. Grin Grin Grin Grin
Contradiction?? Just okay nothing special.
Rugged's "Peace Or War" has more substance than "Contradiction".

I just like Ruggedman. He has more appeal to his audience than Mode-9.

i don't know which way you want to defendd that ish u just said, but anywayz this forum is turning into sumthing else. Hence, anyone can spit any shit he so desires,

@wordsmith

  Gbade X. It's been long, where've u been all this while?

@eldee <br> i was waitin 4 sumone 2 let u knw dat rap is not just music, it is POETRY. Whicheva way u want 2 luk @ it. It is one of the forms of african american literature wiv other forms like oratory, sermon. etc. Talkin about lyrics and rythm is like talkin about content and form of a literary work; they work hand in hand. Though, sum genres like pop and 'tungba' fuji stress d rythm dn d lyrics. In spoken word, real hiphop and classical fuji, ur lyrics nids 2 b workd on thoroughly, and even at dat u need 2 work on rhythm, it is ur style. It is wat seperates m9 and m.i. It is wat makes blakthought and wale sound almost d same. It is wat makes 'tekzilla' of d str8 butta 2 say 'its all in d game, we can write 2geda but neva spit d same'

@a-40 <br> canibus is way overrated here and wen it comes 2 talkin about thought provokin ryms, blackthought kills both nas & canibus. No point in makin an mc luk god-like, vinnie and allah of mind triks beat canibus, evn 2 agresivnes on d mic.

No beef intended @ d two parties involvd in dis heated argument, but dis one reason nigeria is nt developin. Our elders pik up a topic, they'll argue till they loose focus on d topic and as a result, come up wiv no concrete conclusions. For u 2 have valid arguments, its gd 2 let ppl know its "in my opinion" and dnt make ur subjektiv opinions sound objective; like sumone sayin nas has lost d intelligence in his ryms. None of us is an authority 2 say dis and infakt, in my opinion, dis is wrong. Nas can truly b all mouth, but he's always on point except some few joints. Canibus is anoda intelligent mc who has aggressive and violent ridden lyrics. This sets his style away 4rm nas' all-rakim style. Jack d ripper is canibus' best record but dt doesn't make it best rap record. And indeed, anyone can hav his best effort evn a fool. Alabai beta dn m9! How?

U wanna b a bad mc but u're nt gd at it/stick 2 ur day job u silly wannabees/bootleg my cds/i knw u guys atleast and i'll be goin 2 war wiv pirates like da kaiser chiefs - modenine [nine]

It aint hard 2 tell, like a tounge wagging snitch/dat my diligent attitude 2 dis wuld gt me rich - modenine

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I say this because i'm already getting tired of listening to PS after barely two months and that shouldn't be because i know there are albums i've been listening to for years now and i still can't get enough of them.

In as much as i love to stay away from any "mode9" thread in this forum, i would actually want to add to this. KRS One has been killing "ish" since back in the days when Hip Hop was still a baby, up till today he is here. And even attained "Hall of Fame" in Hip Hop. However, as much as i know what efforts KRS 1 puts to his lyrics, i still don't feel him. Infact, i've never felt any of his tracks before. The reason is simple, His style of delivery doesn't work for me. However, i have a friend who can die because KRs 1 is bursting. So what tha F*k

My main point is Mode9's delivery may not be working for you, that doesn't make his style bad or less than average. You can be tired of him, juz because you're not feeling his style. He is simply not doing your thing and he can't satisfy everybody. Not everybody can be like Kanye West who's trying to snatch fans of Elthon John. Simple!!!

@usmanjaji

usmanjaji:

Can anybody tell me where i can get d mode album here in Ilorin because av searched everywhere for it but can't get it not even at Just CD'S,

You can get it around Unity Area. Check "Just CDs" and if there's no luck overthere which i doubt, go downstairs and ask for I.D, he sells Rap CDs, i got mine from him.

@javalove
Can't you see what he simply said, "You a kid?" I took the words he was supposed to say out of his mouth.

What i noticed is that when i talk about saucekid not being anything aqs per nominations and music generally, they don't say shit about it. Instead they divert the whole stuff.

@Tosinadeda
It's better if you can keep your decency even in the hegihts of arguments. That shows more maturity. Can i hear you say sumthin?!