₦airaland Forum

vickzie:
our industry don't tolerate kazeems that would delibrately leave something unfixed so that you can keep coming back. Once you use the right materials and professionals in the building stage, maintenance cost is almost zero. Just sweep and mop whenever you need to. Most of us that travel to the village for Christmas, all we do is sweep and mop and everything returns to factory standard

gbadexy:
There used to be a lagos builder's fair but I'm not sure if they still do it.
I saw one posted on my facebook contact's page done in abuja last year though.

vickzie:
if we build big houses, we would die, if we build small houses we would still die, so let's build what makes us happy and fulfilled (big or small), because in the end, we would still die. besides big house equals big money for architect and builder, big money for building materials guys, big money for maintenance guys, it helps our ministry.

michlins:
where's this building and how rich is this Abiola guy to build such edifice

mufutau55:
We all know the story behind Eze-Ego's money... so which family want to risk their life for the properties?

In case of Abiola, when you have several wives and several children things will always go hay-wire when one is dead. The children who cannot continue with the legacy of their father are to be blamed. Look at the family house at Ikeja sef.. May God give us good children.

Hajji M.

michlins:
this man own is such a sad story. All around Nnewi, you will see mighty buildings with no occupants but weeds and bushes

amosblisz:
What is the difference between a mini flat, self contained and a one bedroom apartment?

Badgers14:
Excellent idea on the Openable burglar proofs.

I had a sketch once, trying to implement that in my build, the welder was like oga , them no dey build that kind here... all my efforts to talk , talk fell on deaf ears

I detest the ones that look like jail. I mean, how could you seal up a flat like that? What ifs... what if there was a fire? And so on and on...

In an effort to protect ourselves, we shouldn't make the situation worse.

I like forward thinking individuals.

Similar i don't like the fence they build up everything. It is an added security to build up the fence half way then use burglar bar of some sort to finish up the rest. So when someone is walking by they could see through the fence. Privacy concerns yes but added security yes also.

If someone is really doing anything private private, they will have to go inside their flats

vickzie:
people have choices, some like big things, some like them small I like dem portable sha. Some men are polygamous when it comes to women, some others are polygamous when it comes to houses

EgunMogaji2:
They already do one here. I sent my partner to one a few years back that was held at UI. I'll try to find some more information on it.

Not to sound pompous but I personally don't think I'll learn from it. I have a clear opinion of what I want to do and what is good based on my sojourn.

I think the combination of the foreign experience that I bring to the table and my partners knowledge of Nigeria as well as listening to our various artisans gives me all I need.

If there's anything I am passionate about, it's getting modern tools into the hands of these guys and training them. I cannot get my masons to use basic hand tools for any length of time.

I'm currently trying to figure out how to create reusable metal work for setting out. The wood is wastefulness.

vickzie:
why share baths when you can have one privately, most people with ensuite rooms remove clothes right in the bedroom, stroll to the bath still naked, finish their business and come into the room still naked before deciding to dress up or still remain like that, you don't have that luxury in a shared bath. and everybody deserves that privilege, whether master and madam, or kids, even servants. the additional cost in construction is mostly insignificant. when possible I usually attached a toilet to the generator/security post so that not everyone would have to ogas house to pee. whether it's used or not is not really necessary, I can always use it to store harmful chemicals away from the reach of kids.

omanzo02:
It's very necessary, Nigeria's property development and businesses are growing fast, in building fairs you get to see simple, cheaper and creative architectural methods and interior decoration for homes. I don't know if trade fair still exist, property fair is just too big to merge with trade fair.
Rotating from region to region annually.

omanzo02:
You may not use them often, the cost of setting them up could have gone to something more useful.
Agreed, children (teenagers and little adults) deserve some privacy too but they are also notorious for being careless and thoughtless in usage and respect for properties, there is need as parent to monitor and point thing out in those regards, only through community bathroom/toilet(visitors toilet could serve as spare) that's possible, else that culture may be a habit.
Making all rooms ensuite is all about client wild dreams than convenience/privacy, for me 1 bathroom (with separate bathtub and shower) and 2 toilets is more than enough.
I think it's time Nigeria start organising building fairs. There are enough creative ideas for big family out there than wasting interior spaces.

EgunMogaji2:
I agree that VT is necessary.

My assumption is that people are thinking one of the two bedrooms be en-suite and the other bedroom be configured to be shareable by the bedroom and guest. A door in the lobby that still gives privacy to the bedroom occupants to enter without being seen from the living room.

With a visitors toilet, we’re talking about just a hand basin and toilet.

I’m envisioning my flats occupied by working professionals who may have a roommate situation. So I built privacy into it from the design stage.

I’m most uncomfortable with the ideology that renters are swine that doesn’t deserve good residences.

adanny01:
Madam, don't listen to what people say when you are doing the right thing.

Put yourself in a 2 bedroom flat, would you rather have a visitor in your bedroom to use your restroom or in your 1wc bathroom?

If the trend is having a visitors toilet, would you risk not having one.

My uncle has 2 properties, one has 6 units of 2bedroom flats and 2 units of 1bedroom flat while the other has 8units of 2bedroom flats. Out of the 14 2bedroom flats, only 3 have been occupied consecutively in the last 3 years. Of course all units have 1 wc and bathroom.

So even though they are 2 bedroom, the number of toilets is the main attraction. The mistake is considering his property a 2 bedroom with a 2 bedroom price tag that is same as the ones ensuite.

Trust me you don't wanna put your property at a disadvantage. 11 units of my uncle have been empty for over 2yrs now.

The trend is very clear.

adanny01:
I still can't see the over kill.

I have seen tenants moving out of a 2 bedroom flat just because the could not manage with 1WC and bathroom.

In many of the houses with visitors toilet, this toilet ends up being the most used toilet especially because of its proximity to family living area.

I have seen tenants pay more just to have more toilets. Tenants pay more to have POP rather than PVC.

Is it that a person living in a 2 bedroom flat is not entitled to a comfortable home or what exactly?

So, I can't see your point please state it clearly.

Focusmind:
Quite innovative. Good thinking.

EgunMogaji2:
My brother, I got my training from the school of hard knocks and experience

I’ll retrofit my bungalow into a school or hotel one day when I get to it.

In the meantime I’m critiquing my next build. Pouring over every space to gauge necessity. “Iyara kerin yen ko nessestri rara”

I find myself looking lovingly at my 2 bedroom apartments. I know fully well that’s about what I need. Prudently

Focusmind:
Bro, I would like to see this openable burglar of a thing. Our window areas in Nigeria lacks good aesthetics because of burglary and nets which we cannot do without because of insecurity and mosquitoes. It is always a good sight to behold a large transparent glass window without burglary and nets that usually makes them clumsy and loose that appeal

EgunMogaji2:
One needs to continuously adjust in life.

In the USA, most young couples start off with starter homes. Basic 2 or 3 bedroom houses. Most likely in town.

As they start having kids they’ll move up to a 3 or 4 bedroom home in a good school district, most likely in the suburbs.

As the kids go off to college they’ll downsize to smaller homes or even senior condos.

I retired back to Nigeria solo. My expansive 8 bedroom, 5 bath bungalow is now rendered nonsensical. Was it a bad decision no to build it? No, it was a decision made under different existing parameters. The bad decision will be to hold on to it as my private residence.

It’s okay to downsize, upsize.

Abolarin91:
Hmmmn! Your points are valid sir.

I am fortunate to be in this thread, full of experienced people...although some are here to make things worst

rotecch77:
They have fantastic doors, here are some of there products.

Tomb up bro for bringing this here

Almost same as those guys I mentioned earlier

omanzo02:
My thoughts too.....some call it convenience and trendy choice but I call it irrelevant and wastage of interior space.
My former builder sold that idea to the person overseeing my project and went ahead to alter my plan by making the rooms with ensuite toilets and bath without prior information or consent.....I was furious......first, I forced him to revert it at his cost and threw him out of my site. I am not a fan of that trend.

Olamomoiya:
Thanks, I'll check them out.

mufutau55:
I think the only powdered one is considered stonedust o. I think the other one is another finer grade of granite.
I may be wrong though... the experts, please chip in.
Good pictures though. Thanks.

Hajji M.

bebe2:
am not happy with the 3WC in my plan, i think its an overkill. how can you be renting a 2 bedroom flat
for 300k and be looking for masters ensuite and separate toilet for visitor?

rotecch77:
Yes, you are not far from the truth,chairman.

Rotech77Ditto:
If you can eliminate the noise that will be a big plus to this grade of door , actually I know of high quality door of Nigeria Made used by some big banks in Nigeria without noise and well sealed against water penetration (see attached pic) but it’s pricey.

Also you can fine-tone the finishings to look more elegant( demands/ cost will determines this) but never the less it will add more value to your product.

iamloyalty:
No be small, Dem stubborn die. Just 3weks ago I found a snake close to my bed I almost placed my head on it despite the bitter kola and a plant in our compound that is said to repel them.

joycluv:
Thanks so much for this. Please can you share the upper floor of this plan if you don't mind? I'll appreciate.

EgunMogaji2:
Very angry. It doesn’t seem TGAF