dongc:


Offcourse faulty currugation machines... the bends and curves are very fragile same as handling.... poor handling causes more damage..

These two are major reasons why steptiles leak.

ananne:


Thanks for the feedback. I guess I should use steptiles 0.45mm.


Hope you recommend it?

I’d recommend you push for 0.55 gauge of step tiles. Not many installer can handle 0.45 gauge very well.

They’ll install but you’d experience leakage after they’ve left and after you might have installed valuables in your building.

0.55 is far more reliable and you get less complaints from those who use this gauge.

Also, buy from reputable aluminum company. There are cheaper alternatives but if you’re directly involved in materials purchase, I’d recommend you buy from big aluminum companies. You’d save yourself lot of headache and heartaches in the long run.

Your roof is as good as the man who installed it.

Happy Building!!

Esosaqueen:
is building a house in Nigeria even worth it for one outside the country?

Yes, building a house in Nigeria is worth it especially when you’re doing it early in life.

The house you own here is an asset which can generate for you a passive income.

Read more on kobocity.com Why you should invest in real estate in Nigeria?

KelvinCoaster:

I suggest you ask n3xt.
He will give you a 'super fine' answer!

Interestingly, I’ve not used it before and luckily no client ever call for it .
I really don’t like the design.

But that’s just me.

All the need-to-know information about Lagos Land Use Charge right here >> https://www.kobocity.com/d/90-lagos-land-use-charge-faq/25

When buying lands in Lagos, always find out your land use charge.

E get why.

whirlwind7:


You got a point.
Nnewi land seem to be overpriced. But with good reason. The singular reason being that, Nnewi has the largest concentration of billionaires in Nigeria and Africa.
Now, every wealthy man may not live in a big house, but he would certainly love to have some space around him.
Space means land. If I got that single plot of land and my billionaire neighbor wants to acquire it, then he should be ready to pay above market value for it. It is simple economics derived from supply and demand.
Supply of land in Nnewi is low, while the demand by it's wealthy sons is high. What results is high price.

Add to that the fact that Anambra has the smallest land mass next to Lagos State, then the picture becomes clearer.
Also, what percentage of Ibeju Lekki residents are billionaires, compared with Nnewi residents?

This is the reason why you could get a plot of about 600 square meter at ₦1m in Ibeju Lekki, but same amount can't buy you 50 square meters of land at Nnewi.

I think population won’t allow people to build superfluous mansions in Lagos. A city that holds about one eighth of Nigeria’s population.

So no matter how rich you’re, you can’t buy Lagos.

Guess what, most of these guys buying Nnewi lands have properties in Lagos and they’re mostly within 3,000 - 5,000 sqm.

I saw the penalties paid in Anambra and I cannot but smile and understand why the big boys are buying every land.

Edit:
There are some areas in Lagos that you’ll spend over 100m on land use charge. Quote me anywhere. So you’d have a rethink before you buy a massive land that’ll increase your cost.

michlins:
if Ibeto decides to build a factory there and you happen to have an empty land there, you're made immediately. You don't need to build anything there are to sell it on premium. From the expatriates that will work there to people who will want to own a by industry that will supply to Ibeto or allied firms. You guys don't understand the need for such

Out of curiosity, is Ibeto richer than Dangote? Or is the auto plant larger than the Dangote refinery project (Africa’s largest)? You’ll still get 1m land around Ibeju if you search well despite the multi-billion dollar project happening in the area.

These guys don’t buy in plots. They buy in hectares or even in miles.

I think this is one reason people think Nnewi lands are overhyped.

This is just my irrational thought. Don’t take me too serious.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1KGpB45l0c

whirlwind7:


Bearing this in mind, Nnewi is bound to expand into the neighboring communities in the coming decades, just as Onitsha did. It is inevitable.

That’s why I’m going to invest in the neighbouring communities. The billionaires will buy from me in not too distant future.

michlins:
I know one man that trades on car filters in Nkwo Nnewi. Hé has properties from Nnewi to Port Harcourt to Lagos. Hostels l, residential homes and empty plots of lands yet he rides old motorcycle while the wife drives a corolla. This man dey wear same sneaker from year to year

We know this too.

I did a build for an Anambra man. He bought about 27 tons of iron rods just for foundation if a 4 bed duplex and 2 bed flat.

If I ask him for any materials, he’ll just put a call to one of his boys “Obinna, bring one trailer of binding wire ”

The man live in a very terrible house in Akoka Lagos and has no car.

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I concur the guys from that area are big spenders when it comes to real estate in Nigeria but they do it mostly for the fun of it. The money dey ground!!

kopell:
Point of correction Surulere is not ordinary in lagos ooooo, in FCT na those politician and high earned civil servant make life had for ordinary people

As far as in me lies, Lagos remains the capital of Nigeria.

michlins:
it's not only that, the importers need warehouse for their goods and they need a place very close to the Nkwo Nnewi market. Lots of factors are affecting the insane prices people pay for lands.

You also need to know this, an average person in Nnewi of about twenty years will sell his inherited land and then travel to Lagos or anywhere else and spend like ten years. He will come back and then ready to buy back that same land no matter the cost. It's only then he can tell his peers that he arrived as a "big man".

We know this.

davodyguy:

I'm just trying to be modest.

There's really no 'ordinary' place in Lagos anymore.

A friend who states around Ahmadiyya says he's paying ₦400,000 as rent and I'm like really? In that far place that's close to Sango (Ogun State)

Rent is going up.

Ifako Gbagada, Soluyi etc now commands close to ₦1m annual rent on 3 bedroom apartment.

Rent now is something else.

Maybe not commercial, but residential rent is going up in Lagos.

In one of those LSDPC estates in Meiran, you can get a flat for ₦3.5m and rent at at ₦350,000 per annum. ₦3,500,000/₦350,000 =10% yield. Even Treasury bills can't give you 10% now that rates have been falling

Commercial rent too.... as at 2014, I was paying 750k for a 17sqm shop in Lagos (this excludes service charge).

I was surprised when I visited a mall in Ibadan and they told me N2m for almost 100sqm +.

Here are some good reasons why you should love nature: https://www.kobocity.com/d/89-horticulture-ideas-beautify-your-home-and-be-in-tune-with-nature/2

cash1115:
Here’s wishing our esteemed clients a blessed year ahead. May you soar on Eagle’s wings and may you be victorious over every of life’s circumstance. Thanks for being part of our 2020 we really appreciate. Let’s do the same this year because without you there won’t be US. �
Happy New Year to you and yours.

Nice one! Wa.in.s.cot.ing has come to stay.

This simple message is what nairaland bot banned me for

Amastermovic:
Good morning all,

On the issue of reinforcements using local bar , TMT et all., and the cost implications ,strength..

The designer of any structures choose the grade of steel he/she intends to design with, this grade will be clearly written at the 2nd page (general notes) or on each page footer of the S.Drawing, the implications of this grade choose for your project will determine robustness , number of required required reinforcements in each structural member
Lay example below.

If I use 410n/mm2 say column of (230x230mm) for a duplex it may requires 6 nos of T16mm and use grade 460 for same column it will require 4 no of T16mm (assumption), the implications of this is that if baba lati supervise for u he will do the following

1)Tell you he built same thing at honourable place @ lekki they use 4 No's of 16mm and the structure is still standing till today.
2)This Engr is not considerate
3) charge you for same 6nos and put 4 No's inside, And cast

forgetting or lack d knowledge of variables and notes in the Drawing.

To the main discussion we have various kind of steel in the market , which most are very bad and good only known brand can easily be passed , most of all this local steel of unknown origin are having same properties as plain bar(unthreaded bar (that iron we use for burglary then)) ..

How do you recognise all this in d open market?

Its difficult for small project since u will b procuring ur steel in batches and from cheapest source available ,u will likely not run a tensile strength.

Large projects and mindful owner (contractor) make use of standard and mostly consultant is always on site contractor will b mindful else he will waste money when ask to break concrete and re do and he looses credibility gradually because during next meeting on a job and such contractor name is mention we strike such out without d company knowing self.

Summary
Buy iron brand that's traceable with clear identification on it

Never reduce or propose what's not in ur drawing without ur designer consent

Quantity surveyor should always quote reinforcements using quality brands price because contractor will not buy TMT when u quote local to make thing's cheaper

TMT is good , local is likewise good if you are running a test or buying good one

Saved for future reference.

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dam4sam:


Good job Brabus/Nx3t.
I am just worried, do you have to use the name of the website (kobocity) as your username, bearing in mind that this was supposed to be a PUBLIC, joint effort of all of us here and not a PERSONAL idea or Project?
I am also worried that the thing has moved from being a joint, mutual effort to a private effort, for example, l was expecting a lot of thing will be thrown open and a consensus reached, things like the name of the project, selection of the 'Site Admins', who has 'propriety ownership' of the site and can shut down the site if he or she so wishes, what is the MOU between members and so many other issues that should be resolved in a PARTNERSHIP before it swings into action, were either overlooked or done 'behind the scenes'.

Looking at the way you have been posting about it, one may be misled into thinking it personally belongs to you (maybe you paid for the Hosting fees but anyone here could have paid that small fee) and not be too comfortable with that arrangement since it negates the whole idea of what we have been discussing and planning for, on this thread.
A lot of Clarifications.. Who is the WE in KoboCity?

Not withstanding, l commend the effort.

BTW: Why are they banning your user i.d's? And who is doing so? Spambot or the Admins or the Site Owner?

Thanks so much. You’re very right on all you’ve said so far.
However, I would reply to this message as Brabus and not as kobocity spokesman.

I already answered who the “WE” in the kobocity project are few pages away.

When the idea took off almost a week ago, a WhatsApp group was created and the link to the site was shared publicly for discussions related to the project.
We cannot hold such discussion on a platform like this. It’s not as easy as you think. I really wish we could do that.

Some people are early adopters while others must see their way clear before they commit.

A lot of people have called me to ask questions to know “Who is behind this project and all sort?There’s also a very small group who jumped on the project at the word go.

I believe a joint venture (JV) is a business arrangement in which two or more parties agree to pool their resources for the purpose of accomplishing a specific task.

From the time we created the WhatsApp group for this project, only 4 people have joined (2 spammers, 2 programmers) and donation has been received from only one investor who chose to remain anonymous.

I really wish I could do say more.

The progress made so far on this project won’t be possible if all I do is trying to see my way clear, figure out “How to navigate every rough terrains” or spend months to put together strategies.

I always hit the ground running towards the end goal paying little attention to the distractions, obstacles and excuses on my way.

I do not confuse my path with my destination. I always start by starting even if the commitment is just paying a very SMALL hosting fee

~ Brabus

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On the flipside, I think we can start something fresh and new - something all of us can call our own. Something we can all partake in the decision making process.

I will happily join in.


Thanks once again and best regards.

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Note: The link to the WhatsApp group was reset/revoked this morning when we realized spammers are hitting the thread through the link that was only shared here.

This is a typical example of a very lazy architect design.

It’s also called “roof plan”

No matter how good the builder is, the house will be very boring.

InvertedHammer:

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High roofs are nice if put on the right design but because of our penchant to abuse everything, some people will put it even on a shack. There are some buildings with high roofs on them that will leave you scratching your head. And if I may quote kobocity, some architects’ choice for the height of king post is as the spirit led.

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That name triggers the spambot o!

High roof is nice on small footprint. When the building is quite large, then a creative architect understands there’s need to introduce variations. This is where architects like ihebrooke comes handy.

I’ve worked with a lot of architects, ihebrooke’s work always stand out.

There are building plans and then there’s ihebrooke’s well detailed building plan. Even a novice will shine

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yinkaoke:
Compliment of the season to us all.
Please l need testimony from people who has installed or are using the biodigestive waste system.
How do you maintain it? Any stuff like chemicals to be purchase at intervals ? If yes what's the maintenance cost like
Do you need the construction engineer for it's maintenance afterwards?
Is it really better compared to the usual one

I am really considering it so please l need answers to the above

Thank you all please u guys must respond oh very urgent l don't want to make a wrong decision on this u know am a woman help me

I started promoting this solution as far back as 2014/2015. Here’s are true and interesting facts about the biodigester. Key points highlighted in bolded part below.

I think our naija marketers are just too lazy to provide adequate information to those who might be interested in using this solution.

ELEVEN FACTS ABOUT BIO DIGESTER TOILETS YOU NEED TO KNOW

Biodigester toilets are biodegradable systems that turns solid waste into organic manure for a safe disposal into the environment.

These toilet waste digesters aim to address the liquid and solid waste water treatment issues associated with traditional means of waste water treatment methods that we have become accustomed to and grew up using.

Some of these methods included the use of pit latrine, ventilated pits (KVIP) and more modern waste treatment means like cesspit, culvert tanks and septic tanks.

What is different from these other toilet waste management systems?

Unlike the cesspit and septic tanks that requires periodic emptying, biofil waste toilet biodigesters as the name suggest are biodegradable and does not require emptying (dislodging) the way septic tanks require trucks to do that.

Before explaining how this is done, the biodigesters described in this article are NOT those that produce gas for domestic purposes.

Here are the Eleven facts about biodegradable digesters that you need to know:

FACT 1: Where does this solution come from? History of biodigester toilets

The history of biodigesters is not clear but they became prominent after the 2014 severe cholera outbreak in some parts of Accra.
The solution was first introduced to me in Nigeria by a Ghanaian friend.

The Ghana Government with the aid of the World Bank agreed that considering the sanitation situation especially in low income households in Accra, these biodegradable waste digesters from the test of the effluent level would avert the problems we have in the way human waste is managed traditionally in Accra and its environs.

The Government through the GAMA Project has since been constructing these digesters for home owners in low income areas. This technology has proven to be a better option than traditional foul smelling cesspits and septic tanks in Ghana and has since helped considerably in reducing the problems brought about by the lack of effective human waste management systems

FACT 2: How do bio digesters work?

Biodigesters eliminate toilet waste water odors by overpowering the natural occurring bacteria mostly found in septic tanks and manholes.

For example in biofil digesters, the waste water from the flush unit (water closets) is organically filtered through a porous slab, allowed to penetrate a small rock-filled soak hole from which it leaches into the soil.

In places where there are gutters, the black water is organically filtered out of the bottom of the digester and drained into them.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Fk4c3oVAu4
The waste water in the system installed here was channeled into the public drain.

Bio degradable toilet waste digesters have established themselves as the modern day answer to KVIPS, pit latrine and septic tanks as toilet waste treatment systems.

FACT 3: Where does the waste water from a biodigester go?

Because biodigester toilets are used as part of the process of treating biodegradable toilet waste water and sewage sludge, the process often referred to as anaerobic digestion is adopted.

Natural composting organic manure are introduced to treats all organic biodegradable materials through the natural process of anaerobic decomposition.

Flushed water and solid waste enter at the top of the biodigester where IMMEDIATE separation of solids and liquid contents of the waste occurs.

All liquids will then be organically filtered out of the bottom of the digester and drained into the soil where further and final decomposition occurs.

Other solids (toilet rolls & all degradable cleaning materials) are decomposed and converted into rich & safe soil for easy disposal in the environment.

Now the final effluent (waste water) produced is a clear odorless liquid suitable for discharge either into a waste watercourse, through a customized soak hole trenches or a drain filled system or can simply be stored in a tank through enhanced filtration and the waste water can be reused to water flower plants flowers on your compound .


FACT 4: Waste Water Soak Hole Pit Construction

We fill the bottom of the soak hole with a layer of rocks. With each rock about 3” in diameter.

The layer of large rocks will determine how many inches high they should be based on how the depth of the soak hole is going to be.

A typical construction of a soak hole must ensure that the bottom of the soak hole is 2’6” below the bottom of the leachate pipe hole to allow for easy filtration of the waste water into the digester.

The depth of the soak hole from the surface of the ground will depend on the water table for the toilet site.

FACT 5: What Becomes Of The Solid Waste In A Biodigester?

Because the biodigester is a simple compact onsite organic waste treatment system, it provides an enclosed space where the activities of the self-perpetuating population of earthworms and micro-organisms are optimized and used together with porous or wire mesh filtration are used to facilitate the rapid solid-liquid separation as well as to serve as attachment site for the micro-organisms in addition to coconut fibre which is used as the bulking material.

It uses a biological filter consisting of a fiber, medium of black soil and in some cases porous concrete. The bacteria and other organisms generated through this technology then biodegrades solid waste.

When the digesters get the maximum per day uses, it will take at least 5 years and as much as 15 years in some cases for the toilet waste box to get filled up and ready for emptying.

FACT 6: Reasons why people choose bio digester toilets

The cost and pricing of biodigesters has become a tussle point for some homeowners interested in digester waste toilet construction. Even though some have claim they are too expensive, in comparison to septic tanks there’s no doubt they have become the choice for most homeowners in Ghana today.

FACT 7: Biodigesters cost less to construct (install)

It is cheaper to install biodigester (as compare to digging a manhole or buying culverts for septic sewage tanks). The land space needed, the material list needed for construction all goes to attest to their low pricing as compare to other waste management systems.

Even the idea of digging all those feet’s and doing all those concrete works makes biodigesters your best bet any day.

Installation of a bio waste digester plus a soak-hole pit can all be done in a day if precast slabs are used. Two days if blocks are used.

Except plumbing works, the cost of a bio digester toilet installation is inclusive in the total digester cost.

FACT 8: Biodigesters are the most eco friendly biodegradable technology

Biodigesters are the most environmentally safe and highly improved means of treating toilet waste water. The use of locally sourced materials means that they are safe for the environment.

There’s no need to apply any special chemicals.

They are easy to maintain and do not come at any additional cost to the homeowner.

Biodigester toilet tank designed for use as a waste water management option for homeowners.

FACT 9: No more dislodging

There have been some misconception about this saying.

But what we are simply saying is that with DreamHouse biodigesters, you don’t need a typical truck to show up saying they are there to empty your tank.

Because digesters uses an aerobic digestion process, solid waste after a cycle (which usually last between 5 to 8 years) changes into sand (manure) which can easily be disposed of at your backyard.

As a result, no septic sludge is stored and as a result the bio digester product has a unique ‘odour free’ operation guarantee.

FACT 10: Groundwater not affected

Water is directed into top soils where microbial activities are most active. Nutrients are removed by soil bacteria decomposition. Because of the depth of the digester (about 3 feet depth) ground water is not affected.

Digesters are designed above ground and typically has no more than a week of decomposed contents in them.

FACT 11: Biodigesters have international approval

Not only do biodigester toilets in Ghana have governmental approval (you can check from the nearest District Assembly), they have also received worldwide acceptance by the World Bank.

In fact over the last 5 years the Government of Ghana has received over $150 million in grant from the World Bank as part of a project complementing efforts to provide low-income households with increased access to improved sanitation and water supply. Simply put are biodigesters are safe for everyone; private homes, offices and public needs.

Jasobry:

Thanks. Will check them out.

true2home:
I love my Builder "Engineer" for his years of experience but, i have to infuse youthfulness into his work.

See that ugly pipe defacing my build; Baba try to set me up!!! Lol

Hehe...

Saw some powerful construction today supervised by almost 70 years old engineer. The bricklayers used were almost same age.

Age no matter bruh!

Jasobry:
Skirting

Nice innovation.

Please provide contact information if you have it. Thanks.

jabolo:


Traveling through a more advanced sister West African country recently, not a single 9 inch block to be spotted in all the ongoing residential building works around, some quite complicated and tall.

Using 5 inch solid blocks was the norm and the carcasses even looked lithe and beautiful and could therefore seemingly lend themselves to further creative finishes, this compared to the 'monstrosities' (IMO) we seem to favor in Naija, my own building at the carcasss stage included.

Who did us this thing?

The system that produced us.

BrabusNG:


There are so many options to chose from. Someone is just going to give reasons why naija is different and why proposed alternative can’t or won’t work.

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Pic 1 - Parquet Floor, Tiles/Rug, Glazed Tiles
Pic 2 - Parquet Floor inside NextHome H52
Pic 3 & 4 - Before and After pics

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I’ve been rocking same floor at home for years.

There are endless options out there.
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Pic 1 - Parquet floor at home
Pic 2 - Resurfacing squash court at Lafarge Holcim with wood flooring
Pic 3 - Finished look without court markings

true2home:
You kuku know me, i am looking at this already. And that una Tiles, i hate with passion and looking for affordable alternatives. I will even prefer Rug self but dusty naija discounted that option. In high End hotel in the "ABROAD", i no dey see all these elaborate POP or Tiles anywhere. EKO with our self imposed costly wahala.

There are so many options to chose from. Someone is just going to give reasons why naija is different and why proposed alternative can’t or won’t work.

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Pic 1 - Parquet Floor, Tiles/Rug, Glazed Tiles
Pic 2 - Parquet Floor inside NextHome H52
Pic 3 & 4 - Before and After pics

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I’ve been rocking same floor at home for years.