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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 10:52pm On Dec 07, 2020
raumdeuter:
Those who owed and managed to pay up their student loans will they get reimbursed?
That's another issue, I guess, but do not forget that some did go to almost free education and we never asked them to pay back with interest when we converted to loans. We can give them a tax rebate instead, like put them on a lower tax code reflecting they paid their debt or something since its unlikely the cash would ever be forked out up front.

I got to admit that this will be harder than Obamacare, but something needs to be done about the ever skyrocketing student loans before students revolt and elope to Cuba so they don't have to pay it back. Delinquency is costing taxpayers tons as it is.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OYmv8QVAME

Christianity Etc › Re: Emancipate Yourself From The Slavery Of Ignorance! by budaatum(op): 10:35pm On Dec 07, 2020
Uyi168:
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Here is the question.
Are u male or female?
You know very well this question gets the stock answer. Lol!

buda is both male and female,
both equally is buda created.


Just imagine the responses I'd get if my gender were known, and pigs, yuk! Besides, I never find it relevant to topics at hand.
Christianity Etc › Re: Emancipate Yourself From The Slavery Of Ignorance! by budaatum(op): 9:39pm On Dec 07, 2020
Kobojunkiee:
Why does it matter that He, God, did not write the text presented in the book of Genesis?
What texts do you know of that were written by God Himself that we have today, to compare it with?
That Gods don't write books is rather obvious, which is why we humans should not be uncritical of what we read.

Kobojunkiee:
Adam and Eve did not know themselves naked, not until after they ate from the forbidden tree, so what was so wrong about them being naked before that? And what is wrong with the unclothedness of man even now? Are nudists ignorant folks?
Well, neither, according to the text, did they know what was good or what was evil, which makes me wonder if they knew the being they walked hand in hand with in the Garden of Eden was God or really satan. Thankfully, they did eat the fruit and our eyes are now said to be open so we can't justifiably make the error they might have made.

Kobojunkiee:
Adam and Eve, slaves? I don't follow... they had the freedom to do just about anything they wanted except to eat from the one tree.
If you accuse me of inferring they were naked slaves I shall gladly admit I am guilty as charged. I do not accept that they had the freedom you claim they had though since it's like claiming slaves on a plantation have freedom except the freedon to leave the plantation or learn to own their own farm.

Kobojunkiee:
For all we know, Adam and Eve may have lived a million years in the garden of Eden before the fall of man took place... so how do you know they were not able to carry out at least part of the mandate as given by God during their time before?
No, junkie. Please say, for all you know. I personally try really hard to not impose my own thoughts and desire on the text I read, though I'm certain it seems that's what I'm doing here despite my claim to the contrary.

Still, look at the evidence. Would I be lying if I claim that so called advanced nations that eat abundantly of the fruits of knowledge of good and evil fulfil that mandate much more than nations that invest much less on educating its people? Basically, does education not empower?
Christianity Etc › Re: Emancipate Yourself From The Slavery Of Ignorance! by budaatum(op): 9:01pm On Dec 07, 2020
Uyi168:
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I get..
I asked u one question a lonnng time ago.

Will u be willing to answer me this fine around?
Lol. You do know that if I answer the question above, I've answered you, right?
Christianity Etc › Re: Emancipate Yourself From The Slavery Of Ignorance! by budaatum(op): 8:55pm On Dec 07, 2020
Uyi168:
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I've always wondered which side u belong.
I do not belong to sides as such but I very often run from the ignorant do not use one's brain side for fear of burning in hell due to ignorance.
Christianity Etc › Re: Emancipate Yourself From The Slavery Of Ignorance! by budaatum(op): 8:41pm On Dec 07, 2020
TheElated177:
You, budaatum, need to stop perverting the Scriptures. Leave them alone. They are not forcing you to read them. Budaatum, stop twisting the Word of YAHVEH ALMIGHTY. Na wa o. Aren't there other books out there that you could read and literally play with and leave the Word of life alone?
You need to consider not ordering buda on what buda may or may not do.
Christianity Etc › Re: Emancipate Yourself From The Slavery Of Ignorance! by budaatum(op): 8:40pm On Dec 07, 2020
TheElated177:
There is reason you skipped where he explained that one day in the sight of YAHVEH Almighty is one years for us humans.
But I did not skip it. See it dealt with below.

budaatum:
Please! Have you got any eyes apart from the human eyes in your head? Do you even know anything that happened 900+ years ago?

But let's go by your reckoning, shall we. You mentioned a thousand years was like a day in God's eyes. So, Adam lived 900 times 1000 years before he died, yet you want to claim the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil he ate when he was 120 (times 1000) years old killed him when it is clearly written that people die of ignorance.

Do tell, Is the knowledge of good and evil poison that kills? Can a person who eats of the fruits of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil still be ignorant?
Christianity Etc › Re: Emancipate Yourself From The Slavery Of Ignorance! by budaatum(op): 8:38pm On Dec 07, 2020
Kobojunkie:
God never wrote any of the other texts we discuss elsewhere either, so it does not matter that He did not write the text with His own hands for us to read.

Somehow I need to be certain that you understand that you are implying here that in at least this one case God failed to uphold His "Truthiness"? undecided
No junkie. It is you who infers. And it does matter that He did not write it with his own hands since it is relevant to its understanding.

Something is clearly wrong if a loving Almighty God would rather keep Adam and Eve as ignorant naked slaves especially if that same God blessed them at creation and told them to “Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth”, which I doubt they'd be able to do if they did not eat of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil to learn how it should be done.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Do You Think Of The Transgender Argument? by budaatum: 8:30pm On Dec 07, 2020
Ehiscotch:
A lot of people believe suicide is the best suited choice for them and the moment you make laws to make it illegal you have deprived them of the right to " personal liberty" and it wouldn't take long before you dictate what thoughts they have.
I won't make laws. That has been tried with the
Suicide Act 1961, and I'd be wise to learn from its failure.

Christianity Etc › Re: What Do You Think Of The Transgender Argument? by budaatum: 8:26pm On Dec 07, 2020
Ehiscotch:
As a Liberal, don't you think you are depriving people of their right to take their own life?
Personally speaking, it is others who tend to label me liberal, and they tend to mean it as an insult, though I don't see it as such. I myself am simply buda.

Still, no, I do not think I am depriving people of what you call "their right" to take their own life if they wish to. They do not seek my permission, to start with, and to be honest, my permission or opinion is irrelevant to a person desirous of taking their own life. But if you mean as a lawmaker, then yes, I would try to keep them alive, for tax purposes, if nothing else since they'd be no good to anyone dead.

I do strongly feel that if I have the opportunity to educate them on the need to live and its benefit, like being alive to see what trump has done to the world for instance, or to just see the next Batman film, they just might change their mind and chose to live instead.
Christianity Etc › Re: Emancipate Yourself From The Slavery Of Ignorance! by budaatum(op): 8:14pm On Dec 07, 2020
Kobojunkie:
So what you are essentially saying is that in the story, God lied when He told Adam that He would surely die in that day? undecided
No, not exactly, since God never wrote the text I'm discussing here.

More accurate would be to say that what God is written to have said did not exactly happen but what the serpent is written to have said did.
Christianity Etc › Re: Appropriated Responses To A Dumb Mutt by budaatum(op):
MuttleyLaff:
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MuttleyLaff:
Sneering, sarcasm or ridiculing isnt going to help anyone here .
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 7:10pm On Dec 07, 2020
PDPGuy:
Most likely
But I’m not sure if he has such powers
I bet he does, so long as he pays those the debt is owed to with interest, which would be difficult to do, or easy, since Dems control the House of Reps.

Problem though. How do future students fund their education?
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 7:07pm On Dec 07, 2020
Dapcity007:
...


Supreme court on religious activity during pandemic science thrown out
Figured that's what you meant. Fortunately, that case was not about science but about the discrimination against places of worship. I suggest you read all the Supreme Judges opinions.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/26/us/supreme-court-coronavirus-religion-new-york.html
Christianity Etc › Re: Emancipate Yourself From The Slavery Of Ignorance! by budaatum(op): 6:56pm On Dec 07, 2020
Oh, thanks.

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I missed it. I also can not see where it says anything lthat "indicates, a beginning of dying", as you claim. Mind posting a link so I can check for it where you got that from please?
Christianity Etc › Re: Emancipate Yourself From The Slavery Of Ignorance! by budaatum(op): 6:52pm On Dec 07, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
Sneering, sarcasm or ridiculing isnt going to help anyone here

I take advantage of all available versions, meaning I dont particular have a favourite

Now talking about clearing up once and for all please, please what to your realisation, does the Hebrew word(s) "muth" aka "mooth" mean and equally by extension, what does the Hebrew phrase "muth, muth"?
Are you answering my question with one of your's because you do not have an answer to mine?

For your information, I did not introduce "the Hebrew word(s) "muth" aka "mooth" mean and equally by extension the Hebrew phrase "muth, muth", so can't understand why you'd be asking me to explain them to you.

If you have a source, kindly share it here please.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 6:48pm On Dec 07, 2020
Dapcity007:
Why den did Cuomo lose his case when science backed him up allegedly
Which case are you talking about?
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 6:23pm On Dec 07, 2020
Dapcity007:
Consent decree is unconstitutional from federalist judges which use originalism for constitution interpretation,unlike liberal judges.
I can only thank God that Scotus is not full of "federalist judges which use originalism for constitution interpretation". If it was, schools might be forced to teach that the earth was created in 6 days and is less than 10000 years old, and the moon is made of swiss cheese.

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 6:14pm On Dec 07, 2020
raumdeuter:
Trump can continue to chase anything he wants in court, the country will move ahead with or without him. The outrage about people conceding or not is just hypocrisy
Don't mind the ignorant people who think it matters whether trump concedes or not. The wise and intelligent know that the people have democratically kicked his orange ass out of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue and come 20 January 2021 he will be seeking residence elsewhere.
Christianity Etc › Re: Emancipate Yourself From The Slavery Of Ignorance! by budaatum(op): 6:06pm On Dec 07, 2020
DappaD:
Budaatum even had to go open a thread because your reply stood out from the rest. It's clear that the immortal soul doctrine originated from Sumerian and Babylonian mythologies and religions today have adopted the doctrine in one form or the other.
It's oly diligent study of the Bible can help those like budaatum to overturn deeply entrenched beliefs and reasonings. 2Corinthians 10:3-6
I opened a thread because I did not want this discussion lost in that thread. If I hadn't opened a thread you'd likely not have seen his response or contributed your's. Max will himself inform you we have been here before.
Christianity Etc › Re: Emancipate Yourself From The Slavery Of Ignorance! by budaatum(op): 5:51pm On Dec 07, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
He said they will begin to die, and thats exactly what happened.
You must have a different Bible to that which everyone else reads.

Could you kindly share your version here so this is cleared up once and for all please.
Christianity Etc › Re: Emancipate Yourself From The Slavery Of Ignorance! by budaatum(op): 5:48pm On Dec 07, 2020
afolarin60591:
:. . .You're the one who claimed the serpent was right now I've asked you one simple question and you're gallivanting.
The text is clear:

But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. Genesis 2:17

And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died. Genesis 5:5
Christianity Etc › Re: Emancipate Yourself From The Slavery Of Ignorance! by budaatum(op): 5:37pm On Dec 07, 2020
MaxInDHouse:
Let those following Plato and Socrates present the result of their theory or better still critical thinking. undecided
DappaD:
This just reminded me of one sound advise Paul gave: “Be on guard that no one takes you captive by means of human philosophy and traditions that are contrary to God's word” ! Colossians 2:8//1Corinthians 3:19;1Timothy 4:7/6:20

Certainly budaatum here just wants to make a show of intelligence and critical thinking but just like all the founding fathers of philosophy—Plato, Socrates, etc, none of them could ever proffer any real solution to the problems humans were facing in their day. Sadly budaatum has taken after their footsteps.
If only you really understood how much Plato and Socrates have influenced your thinking and the Bible itself. But unfortunately the enslaved will always believe they are free.
Christianity Etc › Re: Emancipate Yourself From The Slavery Of Ignorance! by budaatum(op): 5:27pm On Dec 07, 2020
DappaD:
Like I earlier said, we wouldn't even be counting years if they had not sinned in the first place.
Now I understand why 900+ years might seem to be a long time in human eyes but compared to other intelligent creatures before humans came on the scene, there has never been anything like counting of years of one's existence amongst God's spirit sons.
Please! Have you got any eyes apart from the human eyes in your head? Do you even know anything that happened 900+ years ago?

But let's go by your reckoning, shall we. You mentioned a thousand years was like a day in God's eyes. So, Adam lived 900 times 1000 years before he died, yet you want to claim the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil he ate when he was 120 (times 1000) years old killed him when it is clearly written that people die of ignorance.

Do tell, Is the knowledge of good and evil poison that kills? Can a person who eats of the fruits of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil still be ignorant?
Romance › Re: Nothing In My Life Is Real by budaatum: 5:10pm On Dec 07, 2020
Prettydevil:
why the Bleep do I get admired today and dont get it tomorrow ? that thing is messing with my sanity
You have the opportunity to name yourself and of all the names you could have chosen for yourself, you chose devil and expect to be admired and loved.

Do you not know what a devil is? Can you not see how you are messing with yourself?
Christianity Etc › Re: Emancipate Yourself From The Slavery Of Ignorance! by budaatum(op): 5:05pm On Dec 07, 2020
DappaD:
You're the one who claimed the serpent was right now I've asked you one simple question and you're gallivanting.
Its a question you can answer yourself if you but tried. Or did you not read in the Holy Book that Adam and Eve went on to live very long lives and have children long after they were supposed to have died?
Christianity Etc › Re: Emancipate Yourself From The Slavery Of Ignorance! by budaatum(op): 4:50pm On Dec 07, 2020
MaxInDHouse:
Please go and chat with someone else i'm done with your type, thanks! smiley
Trust me when I say I'm not chatting with your type. Just making sure those who bother don't become enslaved by you.

For those who can be bothered, Learn To Reason Critically.

Christianity Etc › Re: If Nothing Can Exist Without A Creator, So What Created God? by budaatum: 4:19pm On Dec 07, 2020
FatherOfJesus:
Whatever, so who created God?
We humans created Gods. This fact is rather obvious from reading the God books we wrote and used to create Gods. In fact, I will call Gods the greatest of human creations since it shows we adopted the ability to reason and think and explain that which surrounds us.
Romance › Re: Nothing In My Life Is Real by budaatum: 4:08pm On Dec 07, 2020
Charity, they say, begins at home.

You, my dear, do not love yourself and are seeking love from others. Have you not wondered how it is possible for others to love you more than you love yourself? I strongly suggest you start having an honest relationship with yourself first before seeking the love of others.
Christianity Etc › Re: Emancipate Yourself From The Slavery Of Ignorance! by budaatum(op): 4:00pm On Dec 07, 2020
DappaD:
Adam was never meant to die at all if he never ate the fruit.
Could you kindly explain to me how you happen to know this please?

DappaD:
The eyes of Adam and Eve were OPENED in that they became ashamed and were fully aware that they were sinners.(Genesis 3:7)
The text you reference states:

"And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons."

Do you think being able to see is a bad thing?

DappaD:
Maybe it's like you don't understand what actually transpired in Genesis chapters 2 and 3 so let me give you a brief rundown.
Jehovah provided the following for both Adam and Eve:
1. A beautiful home. Genesis 2:8
2. A marriage partner. Genesis 2:21-24
3. Nutritious food. Genesis 2:9,16
4. Satisfying work. Genesis 1:28, 2:15
5. Prospect of living forever. Genesis 2:17
ALL FREE!
And he was going to do more, if only Adam and Even closely followed God's program.
All of these were free provided they both obeyed a simple rule given to them to keep away from a tree that represented God's authority over them.(Genesis 2:17)
Do you know that some slaves refused to be freed from their chains?

Some will inform you that they would rather be free to work for their own food and home and wife than have a chain around their neck and be slaves for free food etc. We call it maturity when you stop relying on your parents.

DappaD:
But ask yourself this question, in contrast with all Jehovah provided for them, what had Satan(using the serpent) given to them? Did he provide them with anything good? Food? A home? A marriage partner? Life?
In exchange for perpetual naked slavery? May God forbid me bad things! Personally, rather than accepting fish I'd love to be taught to catch my own.

DappaD:
As in why should we give attention to someone who has nothing worthwhile to offer?!!! Try and reason please.
My freedom is very worthwhile, thank you very much.

You might as well ask why we teach you to read today's Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil instead of telling you what you should believe.

DappaD:
Remember that Satan seduced Eve into thinking that she would become like God so that she wouldn't need anybody to tell her what was right or wrong! Genesis 3:5
Please stop twisting what is written in the Holy Book! The serpent did not write the following:

"For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil."

The serpent offered the maturity to stop being told what was wrong or right and acquire the ability to discern good and evil for herself, which can only be done by acquiring the ability by imbibing the fruits of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil.

DappaD:
So who was actually lying in the Garden of Eden, budaatum?
I have full faith in your ability to answer your own question if you would just become as a child and free your mind from the nonsense it has been filled with.

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