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EmperorHarry:And we are asking you to consider that the reason you think they are irrelevant is perhaps because you just don't yet see the relevance in them. |
Ihedinobi3:You too. I'm responding in sections because of preference as it ensures I cover every point and how I show regard. It for to see. Ihedinobi3:I find it very easy to excuse "people when they look at something straight in its face and still deny what it says". To begin with, how certain am I that me myself is not the one looking a thing straight in the face but not seeing what it says and they are right and I am wrong? There after all are a lot of things - my preconceived opinions, my assumptions, my ignorance, my stupidity, stubbornness, thinking I see when I really don't etc - that might be blinding me. So I check my own eyes in case I might be the dunce. Then it might be a case where people eyes might not be working as well as mine, say no Jesusspatonmud has been rubbed in their eye so they can't see. Why would I not find it in my love my neighbour heart to excuse such people! Did I not with my own hands kill a whole Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of my own transgressions and do I pray not that my Father in heaven forgive me according to the exact measure to which I forgive those who transgress against me? I got a forest in my own eyes, ihe, so twigs in the eyes of others I'm blind to pretty much. I believe the well-being of other believers is enhanced when they open their eyes and look. So you Ihe, are the protector, and buda is like the destroyer of the beliefs people hold on to because they've looked things straight in its face and seen things for what things are refuse to reconsider. Ihedinobi3:I don't mind disagreement myself, after all, I make no claim of a standard everyone must adopt. I state my opinion though. And since this is a forum, what else we going to do but argue, and by effect learn from one another, though I see how learning might not apply to those who've already seen things for what they are. But then, they can have mercy on we poor and teach, can't they, instead of taking exceptions! I do make two demands though fuzzy pot that I am. Bring an a-game please. And, we don't insult buda. Ihedinobi3:I don't see atheist or Christians, myself. I just see Ihedinobi3, Martinez39, every individual person, instead of putting people in a box. When I put them in a box I find I've predetermined what and who they are and by golly did my crystal ball not arrive from China cracked. I'm never right when I assume so I try really really hard not to. When I join a conversation, it's like I've been welcomed into someone's into their house and into their mind. I don't go looking around to see where to fill it with my stuff, no! I look around your house, see how you've made it to suit you, treat it with respect like it was my own mind, unless its some dirty persons house, then I just stay at the door and look in through the window if at all. I don't expect people to have furnished their mind like I have mine I guess. Ihedinobi3:What? A common atheist makes your antagonistic increase, ihe? How does that happen? Imagine if you were up on a mountain and it was a devil tempting you and you were getting antagonistic? Me? I love those who do their tactics. You see, its a forum. They are doing their tactics in public where others see it and where they too will return and see their own tactics and read other peoples comments about the tactics they were doing, and sometimes, its like spat on mud has been rubbed in their eye and they see themselves in a mirror. I guess I leave the "weak believers" for the Lord to strengthen though, after all, it's not like buda is the messiah! Ihedinobi3:You did not judge wrong, ihe. buda is, 'Grace of God' one moment, next its, 'God is being an ass', so I'd very strongly advise you not to believe anything about buda. But thanks for the benefit of your doubt. Ihedinobi3:Above where I said one of my demands is "we don't insult buda" what I didn't tell you is, I got firewall so even if buda is insulted the insultation does not get to buda, and if it ever does, buda just turns the other cheek. Otherwise, what's the point of having a use for the Lord". You have actually honoured me ihe by helping me understand and I really really appreciate that even if we never agree. I think our main difference is, you are the comforter and the encourager, and buda is whipping lazy ass folks so they think. That which is Godly will always prevail. |
Martinez39:I didn't understand your inclusion of "mathematician" here, and I didn't want to distract, but Christian atheists do exist. Christian atheism is a form of cultural Christianity and ethics system drawing its beliefs and practices from Jesus' life and teachings as recorded in the New Testament Gospels and other sources, whilst rejecting supernatural claims of Christianity. Christian atheism takes many forms: some Christian atheists take a theological position in which the belief in the transcendent or interventionist God is rejected or absent in favor of finding God totally in the world (Thomas J. J. Altizer) while others follow Jesus in a godless world (William Hamilton). Hamilton's Christian atheism is similar to Jesuism. |
Martinez39:Forgive me for I am dunce. Please explain to me using the definitions you posted to show me how muslim feminist cannot exist. |
Omooba224:You are not being sarcastic Omooba. |
Martinez39:I disagree that "feminist muslim" is as impossible as a four sided triangle, Martinez39. For starts, a triangle is very very specifically "a plane figure with three straight sides and three angles that equal 180 degrees". It's so specific you'd never ever say the number of sides a triangle has. You want to give me a definition of feminist and muslim that specific please? Martinez39:Why would I want to complicate simple things when I can just google? Let me show you! Muslim, a person who professes an Abrahamic monotheistic religion teaching that there is only one God, and that Muhammad is the messenger of God. Feminist, a person who practises feminism, which is a range of political movements, ideologies, and social movements that share a common goal: to define, establish, and achieve political, economic, personal, and social gender equality. Martinez39:I wish you would just slow down a little Martinez39. You go so fast you leave me behind! Abeg. You know I'm not smart like you, biko. Yes, it is irrational to "redefine atheist to mean Christian mathematician". Unless your name were google, perhaps, and even then! If you show credible data to show why you define so, then I guess it might stand on that authority. But if by redefining you mean making it up in your head, yes, that is very irrational indeed! Martinez39:Did you seriously just miss the fact that the phrase "muslim feminist" is not a "word" but, two words, Martinez39? Can you tell me please if English Language is very very specifically not "the joining of any words to mean anything I want"? About "you could" when that's what is done! Martinez39:I'm speaking English Language where two words is a phrase and not a "a word". Are you, 39? And I'm not talking about "muslim"! Muslim Feminist, a person who professes that there is only one God, and that Muhammad is the messenger of God and practises in a range of political movements, ideologies, and social movements that aim to define, establish, and achieve political, economic, personal, and social gender equality. Join words together to mean what I say, then find authority to show that I'm not making it up in my head, 39, in English language. |
Bilkol:Where? |
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Martinez39:In who's "principle", 39?
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Omooba224:Yeah, they are great parents. My fortune was no telly part formative years till I put my foot down for Festac. And even then it held no candle to my infant diet of BBC, so boring. Besides, no light, so me a book and candles were friends till I got myself a lantern. And when there was light I had the worlds radio on pa's Blaupunkt - three floors up we got everywhere on it, though that high up meant no going out so indoors with four sisters and book. Bookworm isn't intelligence though. You first read to extract content of book. Then understand, to know what extracted content means (I read Homer four times before even getting the story!) Then you get to consider the implications of what you read. Then you decide, if you are aware, whether to internalise what you understand or not. And even check if what you've read is already internalised. You get this with the bad stuff a la twig in my eye and not forest in other's eyes, so I call it "drycleaning the mind". Then it all has to evolve into intelligence (in ones conduct) which takes time. And I'm told, into wisdom, which takes forever, or never, in the case of some. And ......... |
Ihedinobi3:Thanks. I agree up to here. I'm not too good deciphering the religious speak in the rest and you know how we'd get when I delve. |
Martinez39:We already did, 39. Feminist Muslim! |
Martinez39:So, it is "in principle", your principle, that Muslim feminists can not exist? I think I get you now 39, your theist logic! You close your eyes and claim what you see not exists not while cooking up imaginary in principles in your head instead! |
Omooba224:No! You're not off that easy! After all, we all know Okonkwo didn't exist but he still killed an imaginary Ikemefuna! If God were omnipotent, what could mortal not so potent humans know about it? |
Janosky:There's no flaw, then there is a flaw!? Do we agree there's a flaw then? I don't agree it's like knifes though, since that which energises the knife is the external hand that pits it to use and that which energises humans is their own internal freewill, I think we agreed, though I'd not quibble on the initial spark. If so, is not the potential to be flawed a flaw in the design itself? |
Satan66:Ok, a shared union of belief lackers in a deity, then. Would that do? |
Martinez39:Can we call them Muslims and feminists, 39? |
Satan66:You didn't mean religion as, union of people with shared atheist beliefs? |
Survivors of sexual abuse and harassment are sharing their experiences on social media, using the #ArewaMeToo hashtag. The #MeToo movement has reached Muslim-majority northern Nigeria |
Satan66:You too turned it into a religion with "union". Lol. |
Omooba224:Accept my views? You're funny! Who accepts the views of a child? After 11 no dad I kept my views to myself or got beat for opening mouth. Choice was yours, buda! I was small too so easy beat. Had to provide evidence for whatever I claimed, and "read this" didn't cut it. Here's how I dealt with Oyinbo talking rats. |
Ihedinobi3:It's long, an hour, and I'm very fearful of doing it injustice so can't sumarise better than it's title. It is thought provoking, but ihe, you will not like it as it's contrarian. If you can, ochi. |
Omooba224:Sorry, no transcript. But worth watching. (I apologise for assuming in my head to insult you for being lazy. The one above stands though till defended!) |
Omooba224:I like what you did there. You assume God isn't omnipotent with your impotent ability to perceive! You must defend yourself strongly against my insulting allegation above, Omooba. Make sure you understand what I mean first please. |
Omooba224:Pa was good with it but wasn't around after 11. Ma, on the other hand was more a Martha than a Mary so sitting for hours seemingly doing nothing didn't quite go down well with her. "Where'd you get money to buy that book buda? Stolen again?" Money went missing a l lot and you must have heard the one about witches crying and babies dying the following day. Ma would search my bags and rip my books if she found them, though it didn't help that Hadley Chase had porn on the front. Got her back when I grew though. I told her I'm tired of having an ignorant ma so she must read and dragged her to the opticians when she excused she can't see. I now got me a smart ma, and got to thank her for making her koboko teach me to read in the first place. I kept a list for years. That's how obsessed I was, though non-fiction (tort law et al) and magazines (thirteen years worth of Readers Digest, National Geographic and Rosicrucian Digest etc) was excluded as I didn't consider them worth recording when I began. Too large to upload however, and its got some personal details so not link. The book fell apart and I transferred to another and put those I'd read to then in some order. Below is the first four pages. The back pages was for gem quotes. *Edit* I'm taking these down. I stopped keeping record in the 90s because it felt vain. It still does so I'll leave a tiny snipet.
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"ankh wedja seneb" |
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Freethinker, lol. Sounds like freedom from slavery. Yuk! buda became a thinker as soon as buda became conscious and it was early before anyone had an opportunity to enslave buda thinking. There was buda two year buda sister and buda was split two aware happened, the reduction in personal resources. Ma nurse pa lawyer so time that was short got shorter by half. We'd fight over things and she cry and it's buda fault because buda was gollem "mine! mine!" Then two years buda sister and naija and things dried up in the sun. I stuck any free book I got my hands in buda head and thought for budaself then two years buda sister twins! Thankfully a lot of homes had bookshelfs full of books that were never gonna be read so they were cheap so long as I could get them past my friend's fathers who sometimes had read them with their, "you're too young to read that book!" I'd wait till they're out read some tell so they know. The agbayas who never read a word would hit call buda names tell their child no be buda friend no more but enough were delighted and let buda read book. If you don't use your head naija life will be hard where resources are tight. And you don't do stupid on Lagos street or you'd get beat where I grew up. Awakening however? At 1 year old when demon things disturbed me at night but that's a story for another day. |
Omooba224:Have you watched it? |
Janosky:I think it's a flaw if the created disobeys the creator. And it wasn't the first time either! Or did lucifer fall after Adam. A big flaw, I think. Or perfect freewill disobeying beings. Twice! What you think? |
"What I am really curious about is whether Oyakhilome himself teaches his own two daughters the same kind of claptrap he feeds his congregation. I really will like to know if Oyakhilome wakes his daughters up in the morning and instructs them to respect their future husbands as their “masters” because he is not simply “another woman”? Does he also tell them that womanhood is a spiritually and socially degraded position, and that their chance at successful marital relationship is contingent on their firing the embers of their husband’s ego whenever it smolders? Does he teach them that they were an afterthought, created after God had made the ideal – the man? As he watches his own daughters grow into womanhood, does he tell them that their happiness depends on understanding a man, worshipping him and servicing his needs? If Oyakhilome had a son, would he have raised him to believe that women were created for his service and pleasure? In case Oyakhilome does not know, such messages about women existing to service male pleasure have been interwoven within cultures for ages and is a principal promoter of sexual violence." The Ideology of a Pig! |
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. Hope they can protest against this nonsensical law. As I have said, this is a welcome development but they should not start falsely accusing boys of rape and sending them to jail like they do in USA and Europe.