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Christianity Etc › Re: On The False Doctrine Of Adamic Sin! by budaatum(op): 6:21pm On Mar 31, 2019
Janosky:
Angels are spirit beings & created perfect.
Some of them became rebellious, forsook their God given duties and fell into sin (Gen6:2. 2peter2:4).
Obedience to God is a matter of choice, not by force (Josh24:15. 2Peter2:4).
They were perfect yet had a flaw in them that allowed them to "become "rebellious, forsook their God given duties and fell into sin"?

Hey! I didn't know angels were created perfect! And spirits too?
Christianity Etc › Re: Religion A Necessity For Now? by budaatum: 5:47pm On Mar 31, 2019
EmperorHarry:
True.As I stated before,humans are the major problem but at this point it would be conscious ignorance to refute the involment of humans in what was added or removed from this holy books.
What do you mean by "added or removed from this holy books"? Do holy books write themselves?
Christianity Etc › Re: Religion A Necessity For Now? by budaatum: 5:43pm On Mar 31, 2019
EmperorHarry:
Just imagine if,the 10 commandments were the only words in the bible(not necessarily a good thing) but people would focus on these words and it would become a part of them,you get what I'm trying to say here.
Really? The people who could not focus on one simple rule of "don't eat the fruit of this tree" will focus on ten commandments "and it would become a part of them"? When? In 3019? But let me work with you here.

You heard of some guy called Jesus Christ? He went and simplified the entire Bible down to "love each other, and God", very easy exceedingly simple two commandments. How well we doing Emperor with just two commandments? Have these two commandments "become a part of us" yet, we've had them 2000 years?

Yet, fast forward. Imagine 5019. 3000 years from now. The one commandment, the ten commandments, the two commandments, the "lamentations, Malachi, Micah, Hosea etc" commandments and so many more commandments will all become a part of us. You just wish they'd become a part of us already is what. But remember. When we began we didn't know serpents don't talk. Some still think demons do!

I'm going go listen to those books you mentioned to see if you have a point Emperor.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Gospel According To Luke by budaatum(op): 4:48pm On Mar 31, 2019
LoJ:
This is what I thought. I am 99.9% sure to know what is behind this.

There is this... I once met. The thing left long lasting impressions on me and I could not help but seek to get to... Again. The vibes the charisma and the love were out of the ordinary. After several failed attempts at getting to... Again, I was told to gaze at the flower for increased success.

Thank You for this story.
The amount of whatever it was that made them put that picture there. In 3D!

I think that's close to what we are trying to name.
The how to.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Gospel According To Luke by budaatum(op): 1:43pm On Mar 31, 2019
LoJ:
Nice story Buda. Can you recall, which specific flower it was? There is an acquaintance of mine I suspect behind this.
Lavender.

Romance › Re: Nairaland Sisters, Share Your Completely Natural Pics (if You Can) by budaatum: 2:47am On Mar 31, 2019
The first is now. Second is before before.







What did you expect!

Christianity Etc › Re: On The False Doctrine Of Adamic Sin! by budaatum(op): 2:36am On Mar 31, 2019
Janosky:
God made Adam perfect but Father Adam,as a result of sin, passed on imperfections to us his offspring.

Adam's poor decision making has placed the human race where we are today.
The principle of inheritance still subsists.
The choices/decisions we make today affects generations yet unborn.

God in his wisdom has a frame work to redress these issues which has befallen mankind,through his son Jesus Christ.
God's solutions will not be late, he firmly assured us.(Hab 2:3. Isa55:8-11. Dan2:44. 7:13,14. Rev5:9,10 2pet 3:13. Rev21:3-5)






Yes oooo
A perfect Adam can sin? How come?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Gospel According To Luke by budaatum(op):
[url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+9%3A1-6&version=NKJV]Luke 9:1-6[/url]

You have received power and authority over all demons, and to cure diseases. You are to preach the kingdom of God and to heal the sick. When you enter a thread, write there. And if what you write is not received leave that thread and shake off the very dust from your phone, laptop, pc, brain as a testimony against them.

Okay, you might not have received the power and authority, or what you write might not be right (after all, it's not like you are the only one with a mind!), so stay in that thread and learn. And remember, even silence sometimes works amazing feats.
Christianity Etc › Re: Are People Predestined To Heaven /hell? by budaatum: 12:05am On Mar 31, 2019
kkins25:
Whales, elephants have awareness, are they also in God's image?
I don't quite have God's image to compare with, sorry.
Christianity Etc › Re: On The False Doctrine Of Adamic Sin! by budaatum(op): 10:37pm On Mar 30, 2019
Janosky:
So Rom5:12 and Rom 3:23 is a false doctrine?
Yet,the OP can never deny that man is still paying the hefty price of Adamic sin.
“For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;” Rom 3:23

I wouldn't say the above is false since even without Adam's sins, I fall short by myself. And even 5:12 has its standing in that I continue to commit the sin Adam sinned. But that Adam's sin is my sin too, that's harsh.

Would God really punish one for the sins of another?
Christianity Etc › Re: I Am Taking Up Religion. by budaatum(op): 9:49pm On Mar 30, 2019
Confession

My eyes don't work as well as they used to so I have not been reading the books I said I would read. I'm listening instead with the devices below. The beauty is I get to 'read' each book more than once - four five times to be precise, and wherever I happen to go. Nothing beats a 1am walk listening to the Word of God.

Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Possible To Be Perfect by budaatum:
Tfbaby:
Can you be perfect?
I once met a man who wanted to be perfect, so he gave all he had to the poor. He got kicked out of his home for not paying rent and died of kwashiorkor.

Read here what the showerhead said to wannabeperfect buda. I also said some here.
Christianity Etc › Re: Are People Predestined To Heaven /hell? by budaatum: 9:27pm On Mar 30, 2019
ThothHermes:
Prana

Chi

Vital Force

Universal Life Energy/ Life Energy
Nice one. Your's and LoJ's sounds like the [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+2%3A7&version=KJV]breath of life[/url] that God breathed into the dust of the ground that made humans become a living soul.

Note how God formed man of dust first before breathing life into it. And this was after the initial creation of humans in God's own [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+1%3A26-27&version=KJV]image[/url].

Might it be consciousness, or awareness, I wonder?
Education › Re: School Teachers Shocked At What They Found Under Student's Cardigan (Photo) by budaatum: 9:10pm On Mar 30, 2019
edward1106:
Talk well na. Its not like he didn't have, he tore it for reasons we don't know. He deserve a good beating. With the tie, you may guess it is a standard school
And how do you know this?
Christianity Etc › Re: Are People Predestined To Heaven /hell? by budaatum: 9:07pm On Mar 30, 2019
LoJ:
Primordial spark ?
Unfathomable light? cheesy
Lol!
Christianity Etc › Re: Are People Predestined To Heaven /hell? by budaatum: 8:55pm On Mar 30, 2019
LoJ:
Paracletos.
Na. That's just another theistic way of saying holy spirit!

We going to have to work on this it seems.
Christianity Etc › Re: Religion A Necessity For Now? by budaatum: 8:51pm On Mar 30, 2019
EmperorHarry:
You see this is one of the issues I have with the bible or Qur'an.. It's has too many irrelevant details that clouds what people should really focus on.The core values that can make people better human beings.
But, it is not the holy books that make people do what they do but their (mis)understanding of it. I mean, because God in Deuteronomy is said to command the Israelites to murder and steal peoples' lands, that's no reason to justify Hitlerism, after all, Jesus the Son of God said love those neighbours.

Squaring the circle is what one is presented with often with what you call "irrelevant details", an exercise that develops the mind.
Christianity Etc › Re: Are People Predestined To Heaven /hell? by budaatum: 8:35pm On Mar 30, 2019
LoJ:
I have always been afraid of ghosts. Why should I trust this one?
I don't suppose it would help if I changed it to Holy Spirit?

Perhaps give me a non-theistical name for it please. There must be one.
Christianity Etc › Re: Are People Predestined To Heaven /hell? by budaatum: 8:33pm On Mar 30, 2019
Tfbaby:
So them not getting saved is simply their decision not predestination
That is my opinion.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by budaatum: 6:07pm On Mar 30, 2019
Miles231:
Who in Lagos State has or knows where I can buy books on

-Carl jung
-Nietzsche Friedrich
-Sigmund Freud
Have you tried free epubs?

The Collected Works of C. G. Jung : Aion
Christianity Etc › Re: Rev. Fr. Ejike Mbaka Criticizes Catholic Priests On Extorting Parishioners by budaatum: 5:22pm On Mar 30, 2019
KidsNEXTdoor:
when did he criticize the worst election since the history of Nigeria...

A man calling others stingy for not donating money is even talking... Naso
Daddy Freeze has ministered to him!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by budaatum: 5:19pm On Mar 30, 2019
ochibuogwu5:
Something about *inherited sin*, I believe it will help us a whole lot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmnCYrcQqH4
Too good not to have it's own thread!
Christianity Etc › On The False Doctrine Of Adamic Sin! by budaatum(op): 5:18pm On Mar 30, 2019
ochibuogwu5:
Something about *inherited sin*, I believe it will help us a whole lot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmnCYrcQqH4
Christianity Etc › Re: Our Righteousness Is Not Filthy Rags, God Wants Our Righteousness by budaatum: 4:47pm On Mar 30, 2019
onlyinJESUS:
Then, we are saved on the basis of our good works. Ryt?
No! But if you are saved you will do good works.
Christianity Etc › Re: Our Righteousness Is Not Filthy Rags, God Wants Our Righteousness by budaatum: 4:46pm On Mar 30, 2019
MrPresident1:
Genesis 6:7
7 And the Lord said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.
Because their works were of wickedness and not of love, and every imagination of the thoughts of their heart was only evil continually.
Christianity Etc › Re: Are People Predestined To Heaven /hell? by budaatum: 4:25pm On Mar 30, 2019
damocool:
Maybe you should check one of ur earlier responses to him and you will figure that out. The man never used any insulting words against you, you can see humility in his words despite not a believer as u claimed.. Sir, claiming to know above others doesn't makes you any better than them.. Even the word himself was humble during his time.. It's not by knowing all but having the nature of Christ..
Please Lord, make us A New Wine


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ozGKlOzEVc

[Verse 1]
In the crushing, in the pressing
You are making new wine
In the soil I, now surrender
You are breaking new ground

[Pre-Chorus]
So I yield to You and to Your careful hand
When I trust You, I don't need to understand

[Chorus]
Make me Your vessel, make me an offering
Make me whatever You want me to be
I came here with nothing but all You have given me
Jesus, bring new wine out of me

[Verse 2]
In the crushing, in the pressing
You are making new wine
In the soil I, now surrender
You are breaking new ground
You are breaking new ground

[Chorus]
Make me Your vessel, make me an offering
Make me whatever You want me to be
I came here with nothing but all You have given me
Jesus, bring new wine out of me
Jesus, bring new wine out of me
Jesus, bring new wine out of me

[Bridge]
Where there is new wine
There is new power
There is new freedom
The Kingdom is here
I lay down my old flames
To carry Your new fire today
Where there is new wine
There is new power
There is new freedom
And the Kingdom is here
I lay down my old flames
To carry Your new fire today

[Chorus]
Make me Your vessel, make me an offering
Make me whatever You want me to be
God, I came here with nothing but all You have given me
Jesus, bring new wine out of me
Jesus, bring new wine out of me
Jesus, bring new wine out of me

[Chorus]
Make me Your vessel, make me an offering
Make me whatever You want me to be
I came here with nothing but all You have given me
Jesus, bring new wine out of me
Make me, make me
Make me Your vessel, make me an offering
Make me whatever You want me to be
God, I came here with nothing but all You have given me
Jesus, bring new wine out of me
Jesus, bring new wine out of me
Jesus, bring new wine out of me
Jesus, bring new wine out of me
Jesus, bring new wine out of me
Jesus, bring new wine out of me
Jesus, bring new wine out of me
Jesus, bring new wine out of me

[Bridge]
Where there is new wine
There is new power
There is new freedom
The Kingdom is here
I lay down my old flames
To carry Your new fire today
Where there is new wine
There is new power
There is new freedom
And the Kingdom is here
I lay down my old flames
To carry Your new fire today

[Chorus]
As long as You
Make me Your vessel, make me an offering
Make me whatever You want me to be
I came here with nothing but all You have given me
Jesus, bring new wine out of me
Jesus, bring new wine out of me
Jesus, bring new wine out of me
Christianity Etc › Re: Are Believers Righteous? by budaatum: 4:11pm On Mar 30, 2019
bloodofthelamb:
There is nothing lazy about justification by faith alone Buda. I was guilty as charged by the law, then Jesus stepped in and took the sword of judgement for me. My own part is to believe that he indeed was condemned for me, then I will walk away justified with so much love for the one who was judged guilty for me.

What is there to be done when the work have been finished at the cross? In the new testament we don't forgive those who wrong us because we want God to forgive us. We forgive those that wrong us in one way or another, because we have been forgiven by God.

Proper understanding of this great truth will open us up to grace and the power of God.
Blood, I do agree with you, somewhat. Jesus is so benevolent with his love, and not for what we do but simply because we are human. After all, scripture clearly states that "for God so loved the world". I, myself, would not trust that God does not extend that benevolence to goats and sheep too who do no work, after all we've all heard of the birds and the bees that work not. But can I be of Christ and claim "I am justified"? Or should I even justify others? Who made me God, blood? But even after accepting that love of Christ and the power therein, would that love and power not manifest in me and produce much fruit so that God in heaven be glorified?

I believe faith without works that produce fruits is like salt that has lost its saltiness. Christ did give two commands, love God, which is work, and love one another, which is even more work considering how nasty neighbours can be at times. And no, I am not suggesting one is justified by ones work, but that work still needs to be done, unless one thinks singing aleluya is all God requires. I am a Jamesiam I guess, so my faith (the Power of Christ in me) manifests in what I do which is my works, my conduct and my behaviour. Though that's no reason to go about claiming I have done work so therefore I am justified or righteous! As I've said here, claiming righteousness is arrogance. The Pharisee tried it and Christ's retort is clear, “I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For all those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.” However worshipping God is itself work, especially when one considers worshipping God to mean the love one must have for one's neighbour. Or do you not see how much work one must have done in order to be able to turn the other cheek? And is not written that in as much as ye have worshipped the least of these the God in heaven is [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+5%3A16&version=KJV]worshipped45[/url]? And yet, they are not for righteousness, which I must be careful not to practice in front of others to be seen by them, or I will have no reward from the Father in heaven".

Though some claim works are irrelevant, I do not believe they believe they should therefore do no work (it is here that I agree with you, bloodofthelamb), and scripture is clear on this fact! I bet we all work, even if its preaching the gospel. As for being righteous though, I leave that to God to decide.
Crime › Re: Lagos Gay Pastor Arrested For Infecting Underage Boys With HIV (read Full Story) by budaatum: 3:31pm On Mar 30, 2019
Christianity Etc › Re: Apologies From My Heart To All Those I Named As Chaff Atheists- Jesusjnr by budaatum: 3:20pm On Mar 30, 2019
Since op seems to be of the fashion of deleting his mistakes, I'm quoting this for when he errs again.

jesusjnr2:
Yes it's true that even a true Jesus disciple could also make mistakes.

But it's also true that whenever they make a mistake, that the Holy Spirit that dwells in them would make sure that their conscience don't miss out on the fact that they've indeed made a mistake, as He would give them no rest until the message hits home that they've indeed fallen short of the required standard.

Yeah, in the short while I've been on this forum, I've made numerous threads, but this is the first time while I was praying i had a strong undeniable feeling that I had made a mistake, and a voice say to me that I must apologize.

So my hands are up oh to all those atheists that I mentioned as confirmed chaff atheists, even though I didn't mention their full names, for I had surely taken things too far.

I'm sorry S......, L......., and I think M....... (even though I said i wasn't sure about him yet, but yet put him in the same bracket with them), please forgive me.

And to show the extent of my sincerity, I would begin to reply to your mentions, and you can feel free to strike me with whatever you have in your arsenal, for i'm fully at your mercy until i fully repay for my trespass against y'all.

I have already deleted the op and thread title, to prove that I truly regret opening it.

And i'm already feel the peace that comes with doing the right thing.

Thank you.
Christianity Etc › Re: Are People Predestined To Heaven /hell? by budaatum: 3:16pm On Mar 30, 2019
LoJ:
I agree.
There are also bible verses that clearly state election and divine choice.

Now Christians are left with a dilemma. Both positions are supported in the Bible. Either you choose one side and ignore the verses that support the other, or you attempt to deceive yourself trying to reconcile both, while they are clearly mutually exclusive.

There is a third possibility though. And it is that the Bible is written by men and therefore is filled with the best and the worst of humanity.
Or a fourth, LoJ. One can request the assistance of the Holy Ghost, whom the Father sent in Christ's name to teach all things and bring all things to one's understanding.
Christianity Etc › Re: Are People Predestined To Heaven /hell? by budaatum: 3:10pm On Mar 30, 2019
Tfbaby:
Read 1timothy 2:4 sir it States clearly that the will of God is for all men to be saved
Indeed. Yet some men choose to not be saved by their own freewill.
Christianity Etc › Re: Are People Predestined To Heaven /hell? by budaatum:
Ihedinobi3:
Edit: I'm not sure either if you are suggesting that I have argued that God forces anyone to choose anything. If you are, then you would be joining your friend budaatum in lying about my position.
buda never said you said God forced anyone to choose anything, ihe! But then, it surprises me not that you misunderstand since your writing is as unclear as your ability to comprehend, it would seem.

Your position, so you understand it is that God has already chosen for one so one has no choice at all!

Ihedinobi3:
As I already said several times, everyone is free to choose. Predestination does not negate that. Rather, it guarantees it. That is what Paul teaches in earlier passages I shared (which, of course, budaatum, promptly dismissed since "Paul after all is not Almighty God", just like the quintessential atheist would do) and what you will find throughout the Bible.
Yes it does ihe!

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