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Christianity Etc › Re: Mystical Christianity - An Loj Perspective by budaatum: 6:16pm On Mar 17, 2019
LoJ:
Is it possible that the same story happened twice in an almost identical manner? Or is there more to it than meets the eyes.
Amazingly, you'd find similar identifying in Cain and Abel, Abraham and Lot, and in Jacob and Esau, to name a few. I'm beginning to think it's teaching by repetition.
Politics › Re: US Report: Massive, Pervasive Corruption At All Levels Of Govt by budaatum: 6:08pm On Mar 17, 2019
Earthquake2:
Why do you guys like to defend corruption?
It's not about defending corruption, especially when most don't even know what the word means! We talk about corruption as if it's done by aliens from outerspace! We even considered holding our noses and electing as president an individual who smells (if not stinks) of corruption! Is it not I who has to be corrupt in thinking, reasoning and acting that brings corruption into being?

If I don't want corruption then I should stop being corrupt in my thinking, reasoning and acting. Otherwise, I'm just deluding myself by building upon the sand!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Way by budaatum(op): 5:55pm On Mar 17, 2019
Now I know why my sister is so wise! On getting to the end of Proverbs, she would then start all over again and has been doing so for years now such that she has managed to write it on her heart and soul.

My advice is that you do the same. Being a Christian, or a follower of God, is not by believing alone, nor by faith. If you test God and find God does not work then continue to believe in God, then there either is no God, or you have not quite followed God properly. And if you test God and find God true to God's Word, you are very likely to stop believing and become a 'knower'.

I assure you, Jesus could not possibly have believed God existed, just as you would never believe your father exists since you 'know' your father exists.

I pray that the Lord God Almighty continue to show us all the Way.
Christianity Etc › Re: I Am An Atheist. Why Should I Consider Becoming A Christian? by budaatum: 5:43pm On Mar 17, 2019
God may not ask to be believed and followed blindly, but 'Christians' themselves do ask God to be believed and followed blindly, and they, most of them at least, 'follow' God blindly themselves. After all, show me a "believer" (which is what most Christians are), who 'knows' God actually exists, or loves their neighbours as they love themselves, or would turn the other cheek when slapped, or the so much harder, sell what they have and give it to the poor. Or is it not by 'faith' that you are saved and not by the act of loving your neighbours which is how you are supposed to show you love the Lord your God with all your heart and soul and being?

I guess the issue here is that most Christians might not be Christ followers and imitators. If they were the latter, they'd be using the power of Christ to bless the world by being salt and peacemakers instead of neighbour haters especially if those neighbours chose to worship other gods or none. Instead, they do what even satan does, stupidly and ignorantly believe since they haven't really got a clue and know.
Politics › Re: Mathematics Shows Atiku Would Win Buhari By At Least 1.5million Votes by budaatum: 5:27pm On Mar 17, 2019
BafanaBafana:
So after kano governorship election Atiku will become president?
Abi now. Or don't you know Kano rules Nigeria? In fact, though many people think Aso Rock is in some place called Abuja, what really happens is that you'd think you are in Abuja but you really are in Kano capital. The people who live there are so smart that all the signs read Abuja, just to deceive you!
Family › Re: Discussion: Do You Think Women Are Equal Or Inferior To Men? by budaatum: 5:19pm On Mar 17, 2019
PaulAris:
Lol! Men are pigs huh
[At bold] that's why y'all still remain valued...in our bedroom
Atum, in this new age of world order and time, no one is really bothered bout' procreation especially with the overpoulation at hand right now. Management is what's important, managing the 7.1 billion people on planet Earth.
So if "giving birth" is what you have to bring to the table, or better still, the point you using to advocate for women's whatever, then you really gotta pick another one!
...
Waitt.. let me even ask you, if women bring forth life like you said, then what do the men bring forth, sh!t??!
P.s. At your last statement, we're the ones farming you! I thought that was pretty obvious already
I still respect women, by the way
Cheers!
Be funny, why don't you. You farming!? Lol! Women don't just bring forth life, though that is a very important thing to do, they sustain it too. Or despite all your oppressing, who stuck a tit in your mouth and nurtured you from childhood? Who did you run to when you stubbed your toe or even when your wife is being a bitch? Who ran the home you grew up in? Who's the better manager? You grab the land, oppress the woman and point to the fake evidence you created and believe your own tripe!

You're going to harvest a womb and fill it with your sperm are you, or the women will harvest your sperm and inserts it in her womb? In time, we'd make artificial sperm, then you'd know where pigs stand! The fact you get to circumcise yourselves is a precursor to the eunuchs you will become when we go full hog and castrate your ass!
Politics › Re: Freemasons, The Jew's Useful Idiots by budaatum: 1:25pm On Mar 16, 2019
ZombieNation:
Frankfurt school

Europa: last battle (only on bitchute)

Let's start from here.
I found the following.

Frankfurt School

Europa: last battle

For the first, there was also the Vienna Circle and the more modern Chicago School, to name a few, the latter having influenced economic theory in at least the last 50 years, just so you know.

I'll watch the last battle when I have the time.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Scam Alert!!!! by budaatum: 1:09pm On Mar 16, 2019
Consider posting here.
Politics › Re: Freemasons, The Jew's Useful Idiots by budaatum: 12:51pm On Mar 16, 2019
ZombieNation:
You want reference , I will give you refrences

Hope your browser is not jewgle
Don't you worry about my browser. I got loads. References please.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Do you Think About Suicide? Here's My Take. Mature Minds Please. by budaatum: 12:46pm On Mar 16, 2019
Brock1:
I av been having suicidal thoughts since childhood and up till now, it's still d same...
So did I. I even swallowed 60 5mg Valiums once and drank up the entire ocean at the Bar Beach. I wasn't thinking about suicide or dying both times but I knew I could have died.

Hopelessness. That's what you are dealing with. The future seems bleak and you can't see a way to improve it probably because you focus on the negative. But that's likely because you focus too much on what you lack rather than on what you have, and unless you are dead already, you probably have loads (skills, a sound mind, unbroken limbs, you did not starve yesterday and probably woke up in a bed this morning, etc).

Do a swot analysis on yourself please. It might help you properly see where you are, where you should be going and how to get there. And stop watching other people's horses least you fall in a pit for not looking at your own horse!

P.s. after years of thinking it was so bad, I then fell ill and now piss and poo myself and struggle to walk. Suicide? For where! You just watch me hang on to life with my toes!
Politics › Re: Freemasons, The Jew's Useful Idiots by budaatum: 12:33pm On Mar 16, 2019
ZombieNation:
That is the Jew lie all over again

The protocols of Zion is the practical manual of the Talmud towards ushering in Global Zionism.

If in doubt, why was the Russian Revolution and the murdering gangs made up exclusively of Jews?

Even the entire revolutionary enterprise that saw to the murder of the Christian Tsar, Nicholas and his entire family was sponsored by the Jewish Rothschild banksters.

Rasputin was also and is still being villifued by the Jews for his prophetic warnings to the Tsar

Read up who killed Rasputin and why .

Also read up on the make up of the assassins that murdered the Tsar and his entire family - they were all Jewish .
You are going to have to point me towards what you read that makes you conclude as you've done. Nothing I've read supports any of your claims!
Politics › Re: How Western Media Reported New Zealand Killings by budaatum: 12:29pm On Mar 16, 2019
ZombieNation:
The perpetrator of this mass killings is a leftist liberal whose only intent is to usher in anti gun laws and force for Muslim integration and protection .
So he wants "anti gun laws and force for Muslim integration and protection" and he goes to shoot Muslims praying in a mosque and makes white supremacist signs and writes a white supremacist manifesto? Is he a Muslim too while you're at it!?

I wonder how some people just don't seem to reason.
Politics › Re: Freemasons, The Jew's Useful Idiots by budaatum: 12:20pm On Mar 16, 2019
SuperIgbo1:
Heck, what's wrong with y'all? Whoever has a different opinion is called Afonja.

Stop that. It's so bizarre.
By their words does one tell the size of their brain.
Politics › Re: Freemasons, The Jew's Useful Idiots by budaatum: 12:18pm On Mar 16, 2019
Please provide evidence for "Krushnev was a Jew."

And:

The Protocols of the Elders of Zion (Russian: Протоколы сионских мудрецов) or The Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion is an antisemitic fabricated text purporting to describe a Jewish plan for global domination. The hoax, which was shown to be plagiarized from several earlier sources, some not antisemitic in nature, was first published in Russia in 1903, translated into multiple languages, and disseminated internationally in the early part of the 20th century. According to the claims made by some of its publishers, the Protocols are the minutes of a late 19th-century meeting where Jewish leaders discussed their goal of global Jewish hegemony by subverting the morals of Gentiles, and by controlling the press and the world's economies.

ZombieNation:
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If you like make the same mistake you made in 1967.

Russia at the time of the Nigerian civil war was headed by Jews. Krushnev was a Jew.

But that did not stop the Russian Jewish govt of the Soviet Union from bombing you and aligning with the Islamic forces of the Nigerian army .

Russia only got rid of the Jewish mafia during the end tail of the cold war.

The Jews have since been expelled by Putin but not before they stripped Russia of all her wealth. The likes of Abrahamovich and other Russian billionaires living in the UK are all Jews who made their money from stealing from Russia .

This is why the Jewish controlled media, Jewish lobby groups and their bought and paid useful idiot politicians are bent on having a war with Russia.

I urge you to get hold of the Talmud and you will see that the Protocols of Zion was not a fake anti Semitic document as claimed by the Jews but very real.

I have been a fool for too long to assume that the Jews and Israeli nation ate the good guys.

They are not.
Politics › Re: Thank God Atiku Did Not Win by budaatum: 11:40am On Mar 16, 2019
TruthinAction:
Why is he always preferred in online polls. At least those online in Nigeria are about 50% of the population. Nigeria has about 100 millions online. Buhari has never won any online polls. Or they are ashamed of him online. There are evidences the election was rigged and the court will sort that out.
We Buhari people are smart enough to know that INEC does not count likes and shares on Nairaland!
Christianity Etc › Re: I Am An Atheist. Why Should I Consider Becoming A Christian? by budaatum: 11:11pm On Mar 15, 2019
Could you post sauce please!
Christianity Etc › Re: What Do you Think About Suicide? Here's My Take. Mature Minds Please. by budaatum: 1:48pm On Mar 15, 2019
If I kill myself its my business, very stupid business, mind, but my business all the same. But it is a very ignorant thing to do, or an attempt to escape from shame or pain.

Imagine buda kills the self this very moment! buda would no more be part of the discussions on NL except when someone mentions buda, and they can say anything they want about buda and buda wouldn't be able to comment or correct them! Time will fly by and only once in a while would someone say, "ah, that buda" till eventually someone would say "who was buda?" then someone would say, "you don't know buda?" Then myths might grow up about buda claiming she is a man, he a girl, it is 12 who writes what most hardly understand and no one would know buda because buda killed itself. And what a waste!

just the thought of the world going on without me is enough to keep me alive. Imagine I died in 2018 and not see Buhari win a second term in 2019. Imagine I die by the end of this year and not see Trump de-trumped? Imagine the whole of UK has to be moved to Gambia in its attempt to leave Europe and I'm already dead and seen none of the debacle they made of it? But most of all, imagine when you all get sense and your eyes open and i'm already dead and not there to share the joy of the mass enlightenment that is on its way! Hope you see why I'd rather go for eternal life than waste my time on suicide!

Suicide is what you do when you are a waste of space and need to vacate it for more valuable people to occupy it. May that not be your portion. But if it is, then you need some 'Christ' loving, which for the sake of this, is Wisdom.
Politics › Re: Mathematics Shows Atiku Would Win Buhari By At Least 1.5million Votes by budaatum: 1:25pm On Mar 15, 2019
HardMirror:
Funny some people say i am Ipob. I am yoruba from Osun state. Olorunda LGA to be precise. I was a firm supporter of buhari but this is just reality. Atiku as a notherner only need 2million extra votes from all the northern states and middle belt states that Jonathan lost to buhari. Buhari would still win there but all he needs is just to take some of votes and i am sure he would get those votes EASILY as many of those who betrayed Jonathan are now back to PDP and they can still get some few thousand votes which is all atiku needs here and there.
Mr Olorunda, did Atiku win in your Local Government? grin grin In fact, is my Bukoy Oyewo not your Rep?
Politics › Re: Freemasons, The Jew's Useful Idiots by budaatum: 12:31pm On Mar 15, 2019
immhotep:
so this is why you embrace anti-semitism grin grin grin grin
I don't embrace anti-semitism. Most think criticism of Israel is anti-semitism, it isn't. We face the same issues in the Labour Party where we condemn Israel for its treatment of Palestinians and Arab speakers in Israel and they start yelling anti-semitism!

If I condemned racism in South Africa does that mean I hate white people?
Politics › Re: Freemasons, The Jew's Useful Idiots by budaatum: 12:07pm On Mar 15, 2019
immhotep:
Reject anti-semitism, anti-semitism is evil.
Oppression is evil.
Reject the oppression of the Palestinians.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Way by budaatum(op): 7:00pm On Mar 14, 2019
Proverbs 30 Amplified Bible (AMP)
The Words of Agur
30 The words of [a]Agur the son of Jakeh, the oracle:

The man says to Ithiel, to Ithiel and to Ucal:

2
Surely [b]I am more brutish and stupid than any man,
And I do not have the understanding of a man [for I do not know what I do not know].
3
I have not learned [skillful and godly] wisdom,
Nor do I have knowledge of the Holy One [who is the source of wisdom].
4
Who has ascended into heaven and descended?
Who has gathered the wind in His fists?
Who has bound the waters in His garment?
Who has established all the ends of the earth?
What is His name, and what is His Son’s name?
Certainly you know!

5
Every word of God is tested and refined [like silver];
He is a shield to those who trust and take refuge in Him.
6
Do not add to His words,
Or He will reprove you, and you will be found a liar.

7
Two things I have asked of You;
Do not deny them to me before I die:
8
Keep deception and lies far from me;
Give me neither poverty nor riches;
Feed me with the food that is my portion,
9
So that I will not be full and deny You and say, “Who is the Lord?”
Or that I will not be poor and steal,
And so profane the name of my God.

10
Do not slander or malign a servant before his master [stay out of another’s personal life],
Or he will curse you [for your interference], and you will be found guilty.

11
There is a generation (class of people) that curses its father
And does not bless its mother.
12
There is a generation (class of people) that is pure in its own eyes,
Yet is not washed from its filthiness.
13
There is a generation (class of people)—oh, how lofty are their eyes!
And their eyelids are raised in arrogance.
14
There is a generation (class of people) whose teeth are like swords
And whose jaw teeth are like knives,
To devour the afflicted from the earth
And the needy from among men.

15
The leech has two daughters,
“Give, give!”
There are three things that are never satisfied,
Four that do not say, “It is enough”:
16
[c]Sheol, and the barren womb,
Earth that is never satisfied with water,
And fire that never says, “It is enough.”
17
The eye that mocks a father
And scorns a mother,
The ravens of the valley will pick it out,
And the young vultures will devour it.

18
There are three things which are too astounding and unexpectedly wonderful for me,
Four which I do not understand:
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The way of an eagle in the air,
The way of a serpent on a rock,
The way of a ship in the middle of the sea,
And the way of a man with a maid.
20
This is the way of an adulterous woman:
She eats and wipes her mouth
And says, “I have done no wrong.”

21
Under three things the earth is disquieted and quakes,
And under four it cannot bear up:
22
Under a servant when he reigns,
Under a [spiritually blind] fool when he is filled with food,
23
Under an unloved woman when she gets married,
And under a maidservant when she supplants her mistress.

24
There are four things that are small on the earth,
But they are exceedingly wise:
25
The ants are not a strong people,
Yet they prepare their food in the summer;
26
The [d]shephanim are not a mighty folk,
Yet they make their houses in the rocks;
27
The locusts have no king,
Yet all of them go out in groups;
28
You may grasp the lizard with your hands,
Yet it is in kings’ palaces.

29
There are three things which are stately in step,
Even four which are stately in their stride:
30
The lion, which is mighty among beasts
And does not turn back before any;
31
The [e]strutting rooster, the male goat also,
And the king when his army is with him.

32
If you have foolishly exalted yourself,
Or if you have plotted evil, put your hand on your mouth.
33
Surely the churning of milk produces butter,
And wringing the nose produces blood;
So the churning of anger produces strife.
Politics › Re: The Timeline Of Petrol Price Increments In Nigeria by budaatum: 6:34pm On Mar 14, 2019
franciskaine:
you are asking me whether market economy allows for subsidy. I just gave u an instance using the American healthcare system. No nation practice 100% capitalism or 100% socialism.
I admit, your instance surprised me, though I never respected your market economy reason. Nor am I against subsidies, in education, for instance, free to university level.

Our subsidy on oil ensures low usage (a tenth of some countries in the west in fact) as we only get what subsidy is paid on. Removal of subsidy would increase the amount imported and sold and used, and it being energy boosting the economy with the fuel subsidy, fuel tax even, going on education instead. I don't expect you to be convinced though.
Christianity Etc › Re: Mystical Christianity - An Loj Perspective by budaatum: 4:53pm On Mar 14, 2019
LoJ:
Since you are addressing a quite open community, you may want to check out "the magus of Java" by Kosta Danaos.
Thanks. I'm going for Emerson for March. Read some and like. Wish I had time to read it too.
Christianity Etc › Re: Mystical Christianity - An Loj Perspective by budaatum: 4:35pm On Mar 14, 2019
LoJ:
With respect to the book, I did not know you own the facebook page, let alone the audience. Let me check that out.

Concerning Emerson, I can't access the Gutenberg page because I live in Germany (and the Gutenberg Project if blocked here for the most part). But I believe it must surely be the correct one.
Is his essays, of which the one you mentioned is included.

Christianity Etc › Re: Ever Heard Of Atheistic Evolution? by budaatum(op): 3:38pm On Mar 14, 2019
shadeyinka:
A virtual space cannot be "a thing"! It is imaginary!
Really? Like God, right? Only kidding.

Remember this?
budaatum:
Before I prove it, let's be certain we are on the same page.

Consider an empty space. Where is it? Has it got a size? What is it? Please.
You never did consider at the time.

An imaginary space is something in the mind that is imagining it, though it is nothing to the mind that isn't.
Politics › Re: The Timeline Of Petrol Price Increments In Nigeria by budaatum: 3:31pm On Mar 14, 2019
franciskaine:
the healthcare in America is what?
Is healthcare in America allowed to follow the rules of a market economy where the providers charge whatever they want?
Christianity Etc › Re: Mystical Christianity - An Loj Perspective by budaatum: 3:23pm On Mar 14, 2019
LoJ:
This is where we diverge. I am talking about sharing his mystical knowledge, not just talking to the crowd. My thesis is that, Jesus made sure everybody heard him, but only the wise could partake to his knowledge. In that sense, he shared his knowledge only with worthy people.

We can always agree to disagree.
No LoJ! This is not about agreeing or disagreeing. And when we diverge we must give reason. Mysticism, is what you called it so let's do it, if we are "worthy" that is. ("Capable", would be my preferred word by the way since worthiness implies someone or thing, judging.)

Jesus scattered seeds all over the place with no care where they fell but knowing some will fall on the wayside with no soil, some on rocky ground with little soil, and some on soil which contained thorns, but when it falls on good soil it grows, yielding thirty, sixty, or a hundredfold.

He shared his knowledge with everyone but it was the blind who received sight, the lame who walked, those who have leprosy were cleansed, the deaf heard, the dead were raised, and the good news was proclaimed to the poor. It's overlooked, but notice how the blind did not 'walk', nor the deaf receive sight, each received what they came looking for. Then some "poor" lot got the "mystical knowledge".

LoJ:
As for your book query:

The Secret Teachings of All Ages by Manly P. Hall

Self Reliance by Emerson
Irony. Lol!

That first one is way above the level of the [url=https://m.facebook.com/OroluLibrary/?__xts__%5B0%5D=11.%7B"event"%3A"visit_page_tab"%2C"user_id"%3A659205455%2C"page_id"%3A540466965971791%7D]fb[/url] page I post on, and no, not about hiding it, but a case of not casting pearls before swines least they pig on it and choke to death. That's Jesus for you, not wanting to blow peoples' minds. And the reason he called some aside who were capable of understanding and told them the secrets of the Kingdom of God. He even had an inner circle amongst his disciples who understood more than some and whom he told more. To those who had, more was given.

Have I got the second one the right?
Christianity Etc › Re: These People Are Killing My Faith & My Belief Am Backsliding. by budaatum: 12:58pm On Mar 14, 2019
v4victory:
Just three days ago I discovered that a sister whom I have converted to serving and working for God at a church around my area has stopped going to the church,
Sorry op but my interest is more in how you feel and your soul saving. I thought that was Jesus' job.
Politics › Re: Thank God Atiku Did Not Win by budaatum: 12:44pm On Mar 14, 2019
Ziggylady:
What posiion did you ever have to start with?..you were just a broke hard-up dude looking for a plate of porridge to fill your empty tummy after years of joblessness and hardship...Reason why your kind are not taken seriously..The almost shared votes between PDP and APC in your SW inspite of the criminal activites and rigging by APC attests to this.

True to type,you deceitfully clothe your greed,,thiefry and covetousness under a lame "patriotic" garb while underneath you reek of everything abhorent which should be discarded in the bin.

That is why i will keep calling your kind out,if you like accuse your lineage of being losers..It is your business
Oshigun, is this your next door neighbour who knows you or is she just making stuff up about you? I think the latter, but just want to know.
Christianity Etc › Re: Mystical Christianity - An Loj Perspective by budaatum: 12:40pm On Mar 14, 2019
LoJ:
And Yes, the bookshelves are very big and diverse.
What huh You have not moved to the next level and sold them and given the money to the poor yet?

P.s. I'm stuck in February struggling for a book for the month of March. Got a suggestion? Must be available free online please.
Christianity Etc › Re: Mystical Christianity - An Loj Perspective by budaatum: 12:32pm On Mar 14, 2019
LoJ:
No he didnt share. He made sure people heard him, but only wise people understood him. In life we are always going to face tribulation and difficulties. It is not always a result of us sharing deep truth. Jesus clearly abhor revealing to people what they are not ready to know, and every wise man does likewise.

Being crucified (if he ever was) is not necessarily a consequence of him sharing his knowledge. The crucifixion in Golgotha like most events in the Bible, aree not meant to be understood literally. It is above all, an internal event that grants one access to christ consciousness. Golgotha is nowehere to be found but in ourselves, as the name rightly implies.
"Out in the open did he call aloud, raising his voice in the public square; on top of the wall he cries out, [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Proverbs+1%3A20-21&version=NIV]at the city gate he makes his speech[/url]."

That making sure "people heard", is sharing. Jesus would not light a lamp and hide it, nor can he hide it if he wished too since mustard seeds grow massive unhideable plants. He in fact tried really hard to share with just about everyone, including the wretched going to hell Gentiles, and tax collectors and harlots, and the poor in spirit too, and those in hell too for three days! When his rain fell, it fell on everyone's head regardless, which is why it is said that by grace does one receive (or is saved), and not by the sweat of thy brow.

And your 'trampled' too was not taken literally, since you'd already said you are talking mystically. If not that you are of good cheer, you could say I am trampling on you. I sure feel very bad that my poking my two bits in might not go down well, except its you, LoJ. Trample, crucified, same difference, mystically.

I (if he ever was) because it is irrelevant. I assume that since we are talking about Jesus Christ we mean the texts written about him whether he existed or not.
Christianity Etc › Re: Mystical Christianity - An Loj Perspective by budaatum: 11:49am On Mar 14, 2019
LoJ:
No he didn't. And It is my intention to demonstrate this here.
He didn't share it with the common man and was trampled? Does crucified not qualify as trampled and was it not for sharing what he knew?

My bad. Perhaps I should read patiently until your are done.

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