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Christianity Etc › Re: This Is Why I Cannot Just Keep My Atheism To Myself by budaatum: 12:12pm On Jan 30, 2019
TATIME:
At John 8:28 Jesus said someone DICTATES every step He(Jesus) takes,so Jesus also subjected Himself to some DICTATOR!
What matters now is "how well do you understand the mindset of the one DICTATING?" 1Corinthians 2:16
Those verse do not imply a dictator, Tatime! Jesus never said he was dictated to nor did he dictate to anyone! He is the Lord of freewill, and hoped your will was God led.

You appear to me to be misunderstanding the teachings of Jesus, but if that's your understanding, then you be dictated to. I will express my freewill according to my understanding since I can't worship a god of lemmings.
Christianity Etc › Re: It Is Now Legal to Abort A Child At 9 Months In New York. Thoughts? by budaatum: 4:30pm On Jan 29, 2019
It is not legal to abort a foetus at 9 months in New York!
Christianity Etc › Re: It Is Now Legal to Abort A Child At 9 Months In New York. Thoughts? by budaatum: 4:27pm On Jan 29, 2019
hahn:
Share the link to the full story @johnnydon22

Who waits till 9 months and then decides they don't want the baby?
Here is a link to the act.

If you read the entire article you might find that op distorted the facts a bit!

ARTICLE 25-A
REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH ACT
SECTION 2599-AA. ABORTION.
§ 2599-AA. ABORTION. 1. A HEALTH CARE PRACTITIONER LICENSED, CERTIFIED, OR AUTHORIZED UNDER TITLE EIGHT OF THE EDUCATION LAW, ACTING WITH-
IN HIS OR HER LAWFUL SCOPE OF PRACTICE, MAY PERFORM AN ABORTION WHEN,
ACCORDING TO THE PRACTITIONER'S REASONABLE AND GOOD FAITH PROFESSIONAL
JUDGMENT BASED ON THE FACTS OF THE PATIENT'S CASE: THE PATIENT IS WITHIN
TWENTY-FOUR WEEKS FROM THE COMMENCEMENT OF PREGNANCY, OR THERE IS AN
ABSENCE OF FETAL VIABILITY, OR THE ABORTION IS NECESSARY TO PROTECT THE
PATIENT'S LIFE OR HEALTH.
Crime › Re: Fiona Onasanya To Be Sentenced With Brother, After Lying To Police In UK by budaatum: 3:55pm On Jan 29, 2019
ebusnwaoma:
A Nigerian-born British lawmaker Fiona Onasanya , has been jailed for three months for lying following an investigation by the police. 

The expelled Labour MP who was found guilty of perverting the course of justice after a retrial in December, was texting as she was speeding on the evening on 24 July 2017. She was clocked driving at 41mph in a 30mph zone in Thorney, near Peterborough.

Nigerian-born British lawmaker who colluded with her brother to avoid the ticket, will however not be losing her job even though a recall petition could force a by-election in her constituency, if signed by 10% of her electorate. Her brother who she colluded with to avoid the ticket, was jailed for 10 months for his involvement after pleading guilty to the same charge. It was learnt that the driver of the car she named, was in Russia at the time of the offence.


https://unclesuru.com/2019/01/29/nigerian-born-british-lawmaker-fiona-onasanya-jailed-for-three-months-for-lying/


lalasticlala, mynd44, dominique
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum:
lovelygurl:
"What the hell is going on with Global Warming. Please come back fast, we need you!" ~ rump


The president of the United States doesn't know the difference between weather and climate change.

My chest grin grin grin
He's an im.becile! Or a 2 year old.
Christianity Etc › Re: This Is Why I Cannot Just Keep My Atheism To Myself by budaatum: 3:39pm On Jan 29, 2019
TATIME:
Hmmmmmmm i thought as much because most people won't just buy the idea of a God dictating how they must think or act!
But we're gradually getting to the end of the road when most inhabitants of the earth will beat their chests in grief for KILLING religion{the only institution that's been keeping people in check}!
Insanity is often weighed with the outward appearance of the effect but this time around,most people will realise that majority in their neighbourhood are MAD! embarassed embarassed embarassed
God has proven to be quite incompetent at dictating how people must act Tatime. It failed in the garden of Eden, and has failed ever since that one could claim God doesn't even try to dictate anymore, and people like you try to take it's place with you corrupt doctrine. Thankfully, there is the philosophy of Jesus Christ, which frees people from dictators!
Politics › Re: We Don’t Have Money To Dash Out, Says Buhari by budaatum: 8:29am On Jan 29, 2019
Mrpojj:
We all know what happened in osun state
Yes we do. Apc won!
Christianity Etc › Re: Love, According To The Ancient Greeks by budaatum(op): 8:18am On Jan 29, 2019
They are in the Bible then! I figured so, and think it is the lack of human comprehension that makes some people to not know this despite it being in there.
Christianity Etc › Re: Your Beliefs by budaatum: 8:10am On Jan 29, 2019
9inches:
My point is you stand a risk of preaching heretics by reading and interpreting the bible on your own without guidance from the Church who has the mandate to teach.
I do not preach, 9, since I am an atheist! You are asking me about my understanding and I'm telling you about it, I do not expect you to abandon your belief and follow mine! Any understanding I may have is solely for myself.

Also, Jesus gave the mandate to understand and go directly to the Father to every human being when he freed people from the church of his day. It is my opinion that one wastes the body and blood of Christ if one then goes to shackle oneself to a church Christ died to free one from.

And besides, buda is created to behave as described in this post.
Christianity Etc › Re: Your Beliefs by budaatum: 7:57am On Jan 29, 2019
9inches:
Is that incorrect? Do you disagree with any part of the clip?
Is the Holy Spirit responsible for the contradicting interpretations in Christianity?
I've explained my position on the host.

There was a time when the Church sanctioned slavery, exploitation of women, and sold indulgences - tickets to get into the heaven, and I'm sure the Church at the time would claim it was led by the holy spirit, or by God. But the holy spirit is simply the human mind itself and understanding or misunderstanding is down to the individual.

For many centuries before the Pentateuch was written down it was memorised and passed down verbally from generation to generation. You might understand how different variations and versions could be remembered. Humans then eventually wrote the text down over many years by joining various versions and variations together to make a whole, and continously edited to fit the narrative desired at the time. That's why there are various contradictions in it, and also why it is the "Word of God". Sorting out the so called contradictions is like fertilising the mind. One can't help but grow through the process of trying to understand it.
Christianity Etc › Re: Contra Bibliolatreia II -the Septuagint by budaatum: 2:24am On Jan 29, 2019
Ubenedictus:
this only makes me wonder how you interpret the last supper narrative
see here.
Christianity Etc › Re: This Is Why I Cannot Just Keep My Atheism To Myself by budaatum: 1:14am On Jan 29, 2019
XxSabrinaxX:
Lol. You sir, are something else grin
Don't you go telling anyone now. wink
Christianity Etc › Re: This Is Why I Cannot Just Keep My Atheism To Myself by budaatum: 1:11am On Jan 29, 2019
XxSabrinaxX:
Lol cheesy. So you do know what you're doing.....
If i may ask, budaatum? (and pls for the love of buda, answer in english), are you a theist?, deist perhaps?, agnostic....
As far as the existence of gods are concerned, buda is an Atheist. An atheist atheist, in fact. The sort who unequivocally states that there are no gods except for those that people create in their minds!

Saying that though, and I'm sorry for not sticking to English as you've requested, some call buda buda, some think buda is Christian, buda has recently had to admit to being a builder and buda is going to a hell that doesn't exist! It's the demons in buda, see. They are legions.
Christianity Etc › Re: This Is Why I Cannot Just Keep My Atheism To Myself by budaatum: 12:50am On Jan 29, 2019
XxSabrinaxX:
You're really not. I'm going to admit. Your posts have indeed been obfuscating.


Words of wisdom, budaatum
Oh, come on Sab. Surely its me obfuscating and not you miscomprehending, lol. That last statement of yours conflicts though.

I find words are like coffee. You get a better cup when left to brew.
Christianity Etc › Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by budaatum: 12:44am On Jan 29, 2019
XxSabrinaxX:
As i've stated time without number, your belief in any deity is not my cup of tea until you start to shove it my face.
Wouldn't it be funny if you are imagining me shoving a belief in a deity in your face? It will be like it's a zebra, but you think it's a horse. Don't be surprised if you load your goods on it's back and it just runs off with it. Zebras don't do domestic like horses do.
Christianity Etc › Re: This Is Why I Cannot Just Keep My Atheism To Myself by budaatum: 12:37am On Jan 29, 2019
XxSabrinaxX:
And what is wrong with the scientific method?
You are missing what I'm saying, or just don't understand a word I've written even though I'm slapping your face with it and poking it in your eye.

'Blind' people don't do science, Sab. That's why Jesus is said to spit on mud and rub it in peoples' eyes so they can see.

Everythig else you say below I agree with 110%

XxSabrinaxX:
First the scientific method is a method of inquiry. It isn't a set of beliefs. It is a set of processes by which we can better objectively know things. It is a very rigorous method and more subjective approaches to acquiring knowledge are routinely rejected by people utilizing the scientific method. This is often very annoying to people who don't want their beliefs to be scrutinzed objectively. However, because the rigorous use of the processes that make up the scientific method are so effective as a tool for learning objective knowledge, most scientifically minded people refuse to loosen their standards of evidence and logic. In that sense this strict adherence to rules of logic and standards of evidence can be considered a bit dogmatic, but it isn't really. It is simply adherence to a process that is known to work better then any other method devised for us to discern as best as possible what might be objectively true.

Second, no scientist every claims to know anything beyond a doubt. All they ever say is that there is a higher or lower correlation between observed phenomenon. No claim is ever considered absolute and everything is considered open for revision should more evidence or even contradictory evidence be found. It is really only reporting on science that leads the average person to think something that has been learned via scientific processes is absolutely true. Scientists know it isn't.

Human beings are terrible at objectively assessing the world around us. We didn’t evolve to do so. We evolved to see things in a way that would keep us from getting killed and pass on our DNA. Consequently, we are full of intellectual blind spots. We are extremely susceptible to believing incorrect ideas for all kinds of reasons. We might believe something that isn’t true because everyone else does, because our parents taught us it was true, because we feel like it’s true, because we want it to be true, because we can’t handle the truth, because the truth is too complicated for our intuition to grasp at first glance, because our senses are unable measure it on their own (without additional technology), etc etc etc.

Testing the world around us allows us to keep our theories about it from going down a rabbit hole. Testing our ideas provides a safeguard against our own cognitive blind spots. Having other people criticize and review our ideas safeguards against our blind spots. Building on the ideas of others that tested things allows us to come to accurate logical conclusions that would be too complicated to come to on our own without building on their efforts. This allows humanity to move forward with life-changing technology and understanding through subsequent generations. Finally, subjecting our ideas to the testing also allows us to refine them to a level of precision which facilitates good decision making—especially for complex issues—possibly being the difference between life or death for thousands or even millions of people.

In short, the scientific method helps us avoid multitude of pitfalls we have to contend with in our imperfect minds. In doing so, it helps us get closer to understanding the universe and reality more accurately, which leads to an increase in quality of life.
Christianity Etc › Re: Christian Dilemmas by budaatum: 12:32am On Jan 29, 2019
Someone is going to have to tell me what's said in these videos. 3 lots of 44 minutes is just way more than I am willing to sacrifice my eyes to. I'll read the comments though, meanwhile.
Christianity Etc › Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by budaatum: 12:24am On Jan 29, 2019
XxSabrinaxX:
That being said, strong atheists (those that assert that no gods exist) equally have a burden of proof.
To be honest, I really don't have any burden to prove to you that there are no gods, and I don't. But then, if I were a theist, I wouldn't be proving to you my god exists either, at least not in the way you'd be expecting. It is my opinion that everyone can determine whether gods exist or not, and what they exist for. Besides, attempting to prove to you either way is to assume you'd understand it if I slapped you in the face with it and stuck it in your eyes as if your mind worked like mine! buda does not ridicule herself by making out she is the equal of anyone!
Christianity Etc › Re: This Is Why I Cannot Just Keep My Atheism To Myself by budaatum: 12:15am On Jan 29, 2019
XxSabrinaxX:
If i may ask, budaatum, what's your point? That atheism is illogical?
Lol! Lol again!

A favorite word to describe atheists is "fool", which leads me to conclude that atheism is illogical to those it is illogical to. And there are many that atheism is illogical to. As for me, however, creating figments in my imagination and claiming they exist and are real would serve me better if it worked with the imaginary million pounds in my bank account with which I'd love to buy a real spanking brand new red Ferrari! I'm yet to find a Ferrari salesperson who would theistically believe me though. I'm beginning to think they must all be foolish atheists, unfortunately.

Atheism tends to have a relationship with the scientific method, by which I simply mean, the "use of the senses to properly gather information about structures and/or process". If it's a horse's hoofbeats, and I think it is those of a zebra, you can see how I could be influenced to perhaps kill and eat it instead of keeping it to help me till the land and provide even more food to put on it's back to take to the market to sell for more money to feed me, my family, and my next door neighbour. Imagine the look on my stupid face after killing the zebra and it turns out to be a horse just because I chose to believe some stupidness I cooked up in my head!
Christianity Etc › Re: This Is Why I Cannot Just Keep My Atheism To Myself by budaatum: 11:53pm On Jan 28, 2019
XxSabrinaxX:
Check this out...

Supernatural means outside of nature. Nature would be the entire universe, from one end to the other. Everything in this universe is natural, and follows the laws of science as we know them. Everyday we learn a little bit more about the laws of nature, and we find that there is less and less of this supernatural stuff that is mostly born of superstition.

Nothing can exist outside of nature. Anything science discovers will be judged, valued, and controlled by the natural laws of the universe. Therefore, the supernatural cannot "exist".

Even hallucinations are natural, as they are a product of the natural operations of the human mind, because even a diseased or disordered mind is a natural (if tragic occurrence). There are a lot of people who have hallucinations and claim they are proof of the supernatural. I’ve had some pretty incredible hallucinations that science has yet to explain, but I don’t automatically assume they are proof of the supernatural. As a wise man once said, “When you hear hoofbeats, think horses, not zebras.”
So, why claim one can not know the hoofbeats are horses and not zebras?

I can subjectively claim they are elephant hoofbeats even, but I should not expect objective individuals to agree with me unless I show them evidence for my claim, or they are the sort who have faith in my saying so without any evidence. When such crap is pulled on you here Sab, I've seen how you react!
Christianity Etc › Re: Your Beliefs by budaatum: 11:45pm On Jan 28, 2019
9inches:
The verse you quoted has nothing to do with the topic addressed in the clip. Try and re-view.
I understand it to be talking about the host being the body of Christ. Is that incorrect? Barron admits Jesus was speaking metaphorically which I agree with, for Jesus did not cut off some of his flesh and give it to his disciples to eat!

Here is what he said in relation to it:

“The kings of the Gentiles lord it over them; and those who exercise authority over them call themselves Benefactors. But you are not to be like that. Instead, the greatest among you should be like the youngest, and the one who rules like the one who serves. For who is greater, the one who is at the table or the one who serves? Is it not the one who is at the table? But I am among you as one who serves.

"God ordains strength out of the mouth of babes and sucklings", see, "the one who rules like the one who serves".

The flesh and blood to me is the Word of God that life has been injected into. And by 'life injected into', I mean not just claiming "Lord! Lord!", but "doing my will". One can eat all the words one wants but if they do not become the flesh and blood in one, one worships in vain, 9.

Please be specific when you ask about videos you post so I know what part you specifically mean.
Christianity Etc › Re: Your Beliefs by budaatum: 11:30pm On Jan 28, 2019
9inches:
@bolded; No, that's not what I'm saying at all. What I'm saying is "Lord, look! buda right here is one of us but he's at risk of preaching heresy having rejected Your Church, Your Body.
Christ never said any one particular church is his church or body, 9! It is the Pharisees who taught stupidly like that thinking they were the happy chosen few and everyone else was damned! Did Christ not say they will be replaced by stones if they do not do his will? Were the damned Gentiles not included on Christ's 'Church' in the end?

Jesus said “For no one who does a miracle in my name can in the next moment say anything bad about me, for whoever is not against us is for us. Truly I tell you, anyone who gives you a cup of water in my name because you belong to the Messiah will certainly not lose their reward.

Essentially, I don't even have to be a believer not to talk of go to any one particular church. All I have to do is give you, who belongs to the Messiah, a cup of water and my reward is guaranteed. Even you acknowledge this fact by stating "buda is at risk of preaching heresy", despite knowing that buda actually qualifies as a heretic by all definitions.

There is a huge difference between religion and understanding what Christ taught, 9, and there's a difference in people's ability to understand. Christ pointed this out when he said "the blind receive sight, the lame walk, those who have leprosy are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, and the good news is proclaimed to the poor".

Each receives according to their need and ability to receive, is the point. The poor after all do not need to be cured of ailments that they do not have.
Christianity Etc › Re: This Is Why I Cannot Just Keep My Atheism To Myself by budaatum: 11:10pm On Jan 28, 2019
XxSabrinaxX:
If there is no way to objectively prove the supernatural, what is wrong with witholding belief in a deity? Besides, which worldview do you subscribe to? There's nothing wrong with believing in something. But if you're going to impose your beliefs on others in the form of proselytizing and other ways, we're going to ask for evidence.
Xx, please! Where do you get the idea that there is "no way to objectively prove the supernatural", or disprove it, to be more accurate? The supernatural is always subjective is the first alarm bell you should hear! Or are you unaware that beliefs are subjective by the nature of them being held by a subject?

The supernatural can easily be proven to objectively be non-existent. Unfortunately, subjective prone subjects tend not to have any of it. It is for this reason that you argue with theists. You're both banging your subjectivity against one anothers.
Christianity Etc › Re: Contra Bibliolatreia II -the Septuagint by budaatum: 11:03pm On Jan 28, 2019
PastorAIO:
I don't know why you guys are still feeding the troll. I think I couldn't have asked for more after he said jesus was the same as the bible.

It might shock you to believe this but he is not the only one. It only remain as to which translation is the real jesus.
Oh, I know he's not the only one. I'm in conversation with one who's asking me to agree that the host is Christ!

It's amazing how easy it is to forget despite being clearly stated that, “You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments."
Christianity Etc › Re: Your Beliefs by budaatum: 10:50pm On Jan 28, 2019
9inches:
Is your own understanding of the bible (with assistance of Holy Spirit) in line or contradict with this?

https://youtu.be/bJjW3LXuHz
Absolutely not in line, 9! For it is not that which I eat that is sinful or righteous, but that which comes forth out of me!
Christianity Etc › Re: This Is Why I Cannot Just Keep My Atheism To Myself by budaatum: 10:45pm On Jan 28, 2019
XxSabrinaxX:
Atheists have one thing in common: lack of belief in a deity. I guess that's what I meant by "the idea of atheism".
Then I would have to go find a ism that better defines me because I do not have a "lack of belief in a deity" just as I don't have a wishy washy lack of belief that there isn't a million pounds sitting in my bank account. I get off my ass, go to the bank and ask so I can know instead of believing or not believing like some theists do, and which atheists abhor them for doing.
Christianity Etc › Re: Your Beliefs by budaatum: 10:38pm On Jan 28, 2019
9inches:
@6:29 mins
Know that I appreciate the time, patience and consideration that you take to respond to me.

You are saying, or rather, what I hear from you is, "Lord, look! buda over there is not one of us yet he heals in your name"! And you fail to heed the parable where it says, "thank god I'm not like buda the tax collector". Remind me what happens to those who heed not these lesson please for they are errors I'd like to refrain from committing.

9, have you ever wondered why there are two creation of humans in Genesis? Do you know why there are four contradicting gospels? Have you wondered why Paul and James disagreed? And what the heck was that Jesus doing disregarding the Catholic Church of his day, the Pharisses and Sadducces, and claiming a direct phoneline to God the Father! Yet, here is you asking me to replace the direct line he linked me into and divert it to some priest in some church! Don't you know the difference between stones and life giving bread?

You see, even in the Bible, the disagreeing is obvious so how much less we humans who read it? And to be honest, it is my opinion that we are better off for the diversity in understanding, and God itself planned it would be so. Or why the heck would one read "so that it could be said that out of Egypt God called his son"?

The criteria to know which understanding is true is clearly given. Can you tell me what that criteria is please, 9?
Christianity Etc › Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by budaatum: 10:12pm On Jan 28, 2019
vaxx:
he sound too confidence with his ignorance.
It is the ignorant who are always most confident! They, and those who actually know, I guess.
Christianity Etc › Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by budaatum: 10:11pm On Jan 28, 2019
tintingz:
The position of atheism is plain and clear.

There's no proof, evidence and logical reason to believe God/s exist(especially personal gods), therefore atheists lack the belief of their existence. That's just it.
Some of us are telling you that there is sufficient evidence to categorically state that gods do not exist! And whatever anyone decides to believe is inconsequential and irrelevant, since the very idea of 'belief' stinks of theism!
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 10:09pm On Jan 28, 2019
happney65:
You see why I said you buharists and trumpists are one and the same and you both reason alike..I can just wake up today and start calling you a thief and everybody believes you are a thief and start stoning you isnt it?

I have asked you times without number why they have not shown evidence of him being corrupt nor charge him to court you still ended up blabbing..They said he cant enter America Isnt it?And that if he enters he would be arrested isnt it?He went and came out with no scratches..

Now charge him to court for corrupt practices you cant..Why is that too hard to do?That means you have nothing on him QED..You see you reason like a trumpist now?I would even prefer to be a trumpist,at least that one get money and small sense than a supporter of buhari who cant answer simple debate questions he had to be saved by his Vice..The moderator was frustrated she had to tell Osinbanjo to hold on and let Buhari answer "In her voice "Let him answer naa"..A Man that has little or no sense in his head..President Merkel of West Germany.. grin grin grin

Abegi!!!.. grin grin
It isn't for me to provide evidence for him being a thief since all I have is perception. And I'm not stoning anyone! I don't like Trump. I have a perception of him being a buffon and everything I read about him suggests he is. I like Buhari. I have a perception he is much better for Nigeria than Atiku and everything I read about the two of them makes me have the view I have. So, call me names if you like. But I know it's my pvc and I can use it to stone or vote for whoever I want to despite your rants and raves! It's the beauty of democracy!
Christianity Etc › Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by budaatum: 10:01pm On Jan 28, 2019
vaxx:
stop being obtuse, what is the purpose of your knolwedge if it is full of ignorance . And what i am doing here is to brighting your understanding. i realised your post is full of the usual mantra

And if you think by ignoring we serve you well , so be it.
But that does not mean we wouldn't correct his errors, as you well know we would! Or the op would go propounding the same ignorance thread after thread misinforming everyone then some lazy theist would quote op to support their silly argument!

Besides, his thread was to correct such ignorance so we must help op!
Christianity Etc › Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by budaatum: 9:56pm On Jan 28, 2019
Bacteriologist:
I got no energy for that level of thinking.
Obviously, you don't have "energy for that level of thinking". Because rather than count the grains of sand to determine which is true, you'd "don't care how prominent minds define it", and insist those who do shouldn't either! Because, according to you, whether gods exist or not is a mutual exclusion. Despite the proper definition and meaning you yourself gave not admitting to holding a mutual exclusive view. And when the theists comes along and claims the number of sands is how they say it is, you claim they are "ignorant", "stupid", "illogical", "making up ridiculous conclusions" and "need to stop"!

Here's two definitions of Hypocrite, XxsabrinaxxX. Just so we know what it means.

Hypocrisy is the contrivance of a false appearance of virtue or goodness, while concealing real character or inclinations, especially with respect to religious and moral beliefs; hence, in a general sense, hypocrisy may involve dissimulation, pretense, or a sham. Hypocrisy is the practice of engaging in the same behavior or activity for which one criticizes another. In moral psychology, it is the failure to follow one's own expressed moral rules and principles.

Hypocrisy is when one douchebag calls out another douchebag for being a douchebag, and the second douchebag responds to this by calling the first one a hypocrite.

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