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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 11:37am On Jan 22, 2019
"I also say we need to do a few other things on top of that wall, and one of them being to put a little bit of wire on top here to provide a disincentive for people to climb over the top or put a ladder there. We could also electrify this wire with the kind of current that would not kill somebody, but it would simply be a discouragement for them to be fooling around with it. We do that with livestock all the time."
Steve King's Wall



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRMRLf4TZo0
Christianity Etc › Re: Church Of Love by budaatum(op): 10:24pm On Jan 21, 2019
jesusjnr:
OK please you may have a valid reason to call me Jesus, but even though it's just a name, that name's too heavy for me to bear, so kindly just add a little Junior to the Jesus and I think i will be fine. wink
As a Christ follower, you make me consider your name was divinely chosen without you knowing why, and it is my opinion that it is one that you will grow into over time. You should be grateful you are not my Lord Reed.

The only concession you'll get while you grow is a junior 'j'. And the only way it would change is if you do not merit the name.
Christianity Etc › Re: Church Of Love by budaatum(op): 3:27pm On Jan 21, 2019
jesusjnr:
So what are you really trying to say? That you won't do what i've asked of you?
I hardly do what I'm asked to if I find no reason to.
Christianity Etc › Re: A Friend Died Since 2009 And Still Appears In My Dreams, Is This Normal? by budaatum: 12:56am On Jan 21, 2019
MajorJeffery:
I've done this before here with an old moniker about two years ago or so but this still persist. What can I do? I'm already thinking of seeing a therapist but I thought I should raise it here again.

This happens at least three nights every week and in recent dreams, I see myself trying to help him achieve a feat.

The irony is that sometimes in the dream, it occurred to me that he was dead but yet I still not cared.

This is 10years now that I lost him in a road accident. Even as teenagers, we were so close that we shared clothes and some people thought we were blood brothers.

I discussed this with his mum sometime ago and she told me she had a feeling her dead son was existing somewhere and that got me thinking. Could this be true?

.
An housemate of mine 10 years died few years ago and I still dream us in heated discussion over a bottle of wine as we used to. He's dead, burnt ashes and all and we gone on discussing long after I'd woken up.

You have developed a very high level in dreaming. Find out what the feat is.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Problem With Metaphorical Theism... by budaatum: 12:26am On Jan 21, 2019
According to the Zohar, a foundational text for kabbalistic thought, Torah study can proceed along four levels of interpretation (exegesis). These four levels are called pardes from their initial letters (PRDS Hebrew: פַּרדֵס‎, orchard).

Peshat (Hebrew: פשט‎ lit. "simple" ): the direct interpretations of meaning.

Remez (Hebrew: רֶמֶז‎ lit. "hint[s]" ): the allegoric meanings (through allusion).

Derash (Hebrew: דְרָשׁ‎ from Heb. darash: "inquire" or "seek" ): midrashic (rabbinic) meanings, often with imaginative comparisons with similar words or verses.

Sod (Hebrew: סוֹד‎ lit. "secret" or "mystery" ): the inner, esoteric (metaphysical) meanings, expressed in kabbalah.

Kabbalah is considered by its followers as a necessary part of the study of Torah – the study of Torah (the Tanakh and rabbinic literature) being an inherent duty of observant Jews.
Christianity Etc › Re: Ask Me Anything About Deism by budaatum: 12:14am On Jan 21, 2019
UyiIredia:
Not quite. Atheists and thinkers must have long been amongst us but I think for some reason, in part due to politics and our deep religiosity, they didn't have a chance to have the same effect the Enlightenment thinkers did. Plus Africa didn't suffer the Black Death which spurred rationialism that spurned modern science. Maybe when I resume university I will have the chance to study that more.
This is our chance.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Bye Bye Trade War? China Plans $1 Trillion Buying Spree To Reduce US Trade Defic by budaatum: 8:24pm On Jan 20, 2019
PlayerMeji:
Donald Trump still got what every other past POTUS couldn't get.

Seems he is a kind of rough diamond fella.
Biggest way for China to buy more America is to buy American companies since they already got the dollars. But you just watch America say, "we ain't selling you that", when they come buying.

Comical smh!
Christianity Etc › Re: Church Of Love by budaatum(op): 7:47pm On Jan 20, 2019
jesusjnr:
First things first, you don't want to complicate matters for me, do you?

I'm jesusjnr not Jesus, so if you love me please apply cognizance of that when you next address me, because i'm just a servant, but Jesus na Master oh!

I'll be back later to address the rest.
Sorry jesus, but you are as named.
Politics › Re: Obasanjo: Buhari Plans To Rig The 2019 Elections (FULL STATEMENT) by budaatum: 3:51pm On Jan 20, 2019
zoedew:
What talk! Apostle Of do or die politics. His illegal third term bid failed and he is here pontificating! Baba Ostrich!
2. Cancelled the study of History as a subjectthus limiting the world view of our youths who daily are fed with slanted details of their national history.
3. Supervised the takeover of schools from missionaries and private school owners so The State can run them - a move that has proven catastrophic given that nowhere is education successfully delivered except in partnership with the private sector and that’s where we are now - back to the basics!
4. He is better off musing and mulling over his misadventures in life before his time six feet arrives!
I've been looking for evidence for this as a policy but haven't found any, though know history is no more taught in schools. If you got any, provide please.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Abortion the same thing as Murder ? by budaatum: 3:24pm On Jan 20, 2019
samista:
You mean after you kill it?
After I remove it from my body.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Abortion the same thing as Murder ? by budaatum: 3:12pm On Jan 20, 2019
samista:
Lie, a fetus is not just your body, it's another living human
When I remove it, it can go on being a "human being" then.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Gospel According To Luke by budaatum(op):
[url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+8%3A19-21&version=NIV]Luke 8:19-21[/url]

“My sisters and brothers are those who put their word into practice.”


I wonder if Jesus was pissed off at them for not embracing his message and changing their bad ways.
Christianity Etc › Re: Help I'm About To Commit Suicide by budaatum: 4:10am On Jan 20, 2019
Beaten:
Yes !!! Thanks.... I'm not more beaten. .. I'm now Winning!!! Thank you all good PEOPLEwho saved my Lot from the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. Once again Thank you. I'm closing down this beaten account today because my depression is over.
You really ought to tell us your outcome so others too can be helped.
Christianity Etc › Re: Church Of Love by budaatum(op):
I never "always wanted to be an atheist"! I just was never fed religion, and I "have a deeper knowledge of the things of God", according to you, because I read the book from the beginning to the end and never could understand why people around me seemed to feel the need to believe what they read in it, yet, do the opposite of what it taught.

Many have never read their Bible from Genesis straight through to the end, is what I find. Most who claim they have dip into it at the reading of the day and after so many years claim they've read the whole book, but even if they truly have gone through the book, they still would never have understood how the God developed all the way through the book page by page like they would have if they'd read it page by page. Then there's the added corruption of their holy person telling most their spin on their reading of the day.

I'll tell you what, jesus. You be the judge of the sort of church this is. The reading is Genesis 1, and the first sermon, by a visitor, except wherever you see "obey", read "do my will".


Notice

Tithes next Sunday please! Yes, believe in tithes. The tithes for this church shall be 0.1 of you. We are digital so I will need you to imagine it please.

The book for this phase of CoL will be the Book of Genesis. We are at Chapter 1.
Christianity Etc › Re: Believing In Jesus Without Obeying His Words' Like Building A House On Sand by budaatum: 3:42am On Jan 20, 2019
jesusjnr:
So how can you claim to like me if you do not what i say? wink
Lol! Ma pulls this on me sometimes. "buda", she goes. "You say you love me, your mama, so do what I tell you to get marry have baby".

I laugh like I laughed when I read this again.
Christianity Etc › Re: I Am Taking Up Religion. by budaatum(op):
MuttleyLaff:
Me liked but just make sure "I Am Taking Up Religion. by budaatum: 9:44pm On Jan 14" is a religion that has no faults in it, a religion you cant fault or is a religion that is faultless.
All human acts have faults muttley, since we are not perfect, so 'imperfection' should not be the demonic excuse for doing nothing.

Nice hot water in the shower one day when the showerhead says, "buda, you a perfectionist".

"Me?" Asked buda, hot water washing down face.

"Yeah you", says showerhead. "buda, you are a perfectionist".

buda look at the showerhead nice hot water washing off head and goes, "You're tripping. I ain't no perfectionist I ain't never done anything perfectly in my life!"

Showerhead goes, "exactly". And kept showering hot water on buda head.

It took a while, but buda eventually realised buda didn't do anything because buda wasn't perfect.

In response to your question. Everything in the link below except the following, does not define the religion I plan to take up.

Some religions place an emphasis on belief, while others emphasize practice.

I am choosing your definition of religion and applying it to 'read turn page' a religious book. Though, I must confess that I'm considering listening to it instead, now that I'm remembering how long it took the first time!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Garden Of Eden - A Child's View by budaatum(op): 2:37am On Jan 20, 2019
tobechi20:
The are myth
What are myths?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Garden Of Eden - A Child's View by budaatum(op): 5:53pm On Jan 19, 2019
MuttleyLaff:
Yes, in the original text when God said, thou shall surely die, the remark has the meaning translated as you will die a slow death, you definitely will begin the process of deterioration. Everything, over time, will begin going down and looking south. At the end of the deterioration and organ failings comes and awaits death.

The mortality clock came alive and started to tick from after the lunge at the fruit and subsequent eating of it
There was no time of death stipulated in the text but you have attempted to rationalise it in light of evidence and with assumptions that you have no valid reason to make. Where did you get "a slow death" from if not from the fact that you know Adam did not die after he ate the apple, and what makes you think he would not have died eventually forbidden fruit or not?
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Abortion the same thing as Murder ? by budaatum:
johnydon22:
Who has knocked on your door to tell you not to commit abortion here?

When it comes down comparing a fetus to sperm, I'm done. It has gone too absurd for me to indulge in.
Any intelligent person that does not know the difference between a human and a sperm has gone over the height of reaching.
A sperm is a human cell not a human. Humans are made of cells - correct
Human is a cell - incorrect.

Humans are made of atoms - correct
Humans are atoms - incorrect.

That i even have to explain this shows the absurdity people sink in to rationalize an abhorrence.
Again this is not the premise, no one is asking anybody to not do what they want. Jesus Christ! People stay with the premise.
Criticizing religion doesn't mean you are telling people to come and seek your permission before they become religious.
How the hell do you people even inject seeking for permission when the premise criticizes abortion?
Finally, being legal is not exactly same as being moral.
I'm sure you've participated in discussions about moral relativism on here. But just in case you haven't, note how homosexuality is moral, according to some and even nations, and immoral in some others. Same with abortion.

It is my opinion that calling a foetus a human being is equally as ridiculous as calling sperm and an egg a human being. And since you admit that you are not asking anyone to seek anyone's permission, therefore, regardless of what you may think of the morality of my action, I repeat, my body. I can chop bits off it if it so please me.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Abortion the same thing as Murder ? by budaatum: 4:19pm On Jan 19, 2019
johnydon22:
This is not the argument dude. Disagreeing with something. Showing why it is wrong isn't the same as insisting people do what you think.

The premise was on the moral weight of the action.

You and i criticize religions from time to time, i wonder why we don't say "my choice, my religion" and leave these religions alone.

Because we understand that criticism isn't same as "you shouldn't do what you want with your life"

Jesus!!! This is non sequitur to this post
I don't know about you, but I do say, ""my choice, my religion" and leave these religions alone". I after all have never knocked on my JW neighbour's door and said, "Your God is a figment of your imagination"! I wonder if you go knock on your neighbour's door promoting your 'god'?

Everyone who aborts a foetus has a reason that is very valid to them which may seem unimportant to others. You missed it in your adult to foetus which if you'd ended with human egg and human sperm, you might see how an abortion starts with the use of a condom. Thankfully, in most societies, one does not need permission to remove an unwanted foetus from one's womb.
Christianity Etc › Re: A Righteous Christian Is Better Than A Righteous Atheist/pagan by budaatum: 8:01pm On Jan 18, 2019
Yes Anas, come. Let Jesus make you a disciple.
Politics › Re: African China by budaatum: 6:45pm On Jan 18, 2019
HappyPagan:
Hehee. Where does one begin?
You already began on here, Happy! Or are you not aware that you evolve? Time..........
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 6:37pm On Jan 18, 2019

Christianity Etc › Re: Is Abortion the same thing as Murder ? by budaatum: 6:23pm On Jan 18, 2019
It's my body. If I want to kill off a part or all of it, your opinion does not count.
Politics › Re: Atiku Abubakar Lands In Washington, USA - Dele Momodu by budaatum: 4:20am On Jan 18, 2019
MobilityExpress:
America isn't like Nigeria. There is separation of powers over there. Even the US president can get impeached for interfering in an FBi investigation. If Atiku enters America he will be arrested and prosecuted. The only way Atiku can escape arrest is if he has diplomatic immunity, and he doesn't have it.
And that's why he wants to become Nigerian President. The position comes with diplomatic immunity.
Politics › Re: Atiku Abubakar Lands In Washington, USA - Dele Momodu by budaatum: 4:16am On Jan 18, 2019
Naruto87:
I don't know who is more.... Those who believe this news from an un verified source or those who believe Atiku a man who said "he will not enrich his family but his friends" . Keep believing until we hit another recession or until he sells all our assets to his "friends".
Starting with NNPC, the Golden Egg layer.
Christianity Etc › Re: Crazy Things That Religious People Believe - Add Yours by budaatum: 4:02am On Jan 18, 2019
TATIME:
FACELESSLY on social media can only motivate your audience for sometimes, but for it to stick to their minds they must SEE the PRACTICAL APPLICATIONS of what you're saying and that they're to learn from no other person but you! wink wink wink
Verily verily I tell you the truth, Tatime, that never will you forget that you were buda's audience, and you discussed and you were motivated, and that that motivation will forever more stick in your mind. Do note however that if you do not eat a balanced diet you will become malnourished.

(You may wish to periodically return here to let me know how resolutely you try to erase my words from your mind.)
Christianity Etc › Re: Contra Bibliolatreia II -the Septuagint by budaatum:
Ihedinobi3:
Maybe one day I'll trust you enough to believe every single thing you say without question. But today is not that day.
Uben has not asked you to believe, Ihedi. He provided you with facts for you to go check out yourself and the fact you claim to "know enough history to know that they are [false]” without checking while claiming the Bible as your only source would be comical if you didn't mean it.

Do you have "a vested interest in a certain point of view" so "will twist everything to serve it" ? Or are you incapable of separating the wheat from the chaff and so just don't bother with the evidence?
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist, What Would You Consider Evidence Of God's Existence? by budaatum: 11:04pm On Jan 17, 2019
Anas09:
If what Swedenborg wrote are fabricated beliefs, then why bother posting what you posted?

You sent me Heaven and Hell, yes. But another guy from here also sent it to me. Then he sent 'AfterLife of things seen and Heard' 'Marriage Love', True Christianity', Secrets of Heaven, Divine Love and Wisdom, Live of Angels, Divine we ovidence, Life Faith, and Secret Scriprures'. All by Swedenborg.
Na wa for you o anas!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Problem With Metaphorical Theism... by budaatum: 9:16pm On Jan 17, 2019
Three of these strategies have become quite common among theologians. One school sees the New Testament apocalyptic drama as a secondary, post-Jesuanic level of early Christian tradition. On this premise Jesus’ ministry can be understood within the archaic worldview. Seen from this perspective, his healings appear as temporary victories in the battle against the forces of evil, aiming at the establishment of God’s royal rule among people. Even though Jesus may have hoped to cure Jewish society as a whole, he never went beyond hoping for the immediate though temporary triumph over the forces of evil. Jesus’ reestablishment of divine rulership is small-scale and realistic and forms an episode of the struggle between order and chaos. There is no need to make it a minor prelude to an apocalyptic event of universal dimensions. The historical Jesus, as some modern historians see him, never gave his message a utopian and apocalyptic frame (Lang 1997, 94–96).

A second strategy of revising traditional Christian eschatological beliefs can be seen in the work of the twentieth-century Catholic theologian Gerhard Lohfink. According to him there will be only an individual judgment after the death of each person; as a cosmic drama, the Last Judgment will never take place, and it may be understood as expressing the fact that from God’s timeless perspective, all individual judgments happen at the same time (Lohfink 1975, 70–81).

The third relevant strategy, represented by the twentieth-century Lutheran theologian Rudolf Bultmann, holds that the mythological eschatology must have an existential message. Rather than being a literal announcement of the Last Judgment, it serves as an urgent summons to confront God here and now and find our authentic inner being. When people discover God as the ultimate reality, then everything else—the material world and its history—vanishes. This is how Bultmann explains the real, inner meaning of the biblical message of the “end of the world”:

Eschatological preaching views the present time in the light of the future, and it says that this present world of nature and history, the world in which we live our lives and make our plans, is not the only world; that this world is temporal and transitory, yes, ultimately empty and unreal in the face of eternity. (Bultmann 1958, 23)

Like Swedenborg, much of modern theology eliminates apocalyptic scenarios.
Politics › Re: African China by budaatum: 8:48pm On Jan 17, 2019
HappyPagan:
Would require massive reeducation. Sentiments alone won't cause people to drop their beliefs. Beliefs are powerful. How do we empower the man to overcome? Through knowledge and proper education.

Our people are largely miseducated.. They hold wrong ideas on various critical topics. So properly colonized it's difficult to imagine a non-Abrahamic God.


Allah and Yahweh firmly embedded in our consciousness.
And are easily supplanted by superior minds like yours, note.
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist, What Would You Consider Evidence Of God's Existence? by budaatum:
Anas09:
I have a guy who supplies me with Swedenborg's other books. To know that an atheist first sent me this book. It's amazing how you wld pass off such a treasure. Well, let me believe you didn't actually read it.
Anas09, what profit you denying the evidence of your eyes and replace it with fabricated beliefs? How could I possibly recommend a book to you, send you a copy of said book and your response is, "let me believe you didn't actually read it"?

You liked the book I take it? Here's a more user friendly epub download of Heaven and Hell. And for anyone who wishes to know more about Emanuel Swedenborg (1688–1772) , below is a summary of Genesis 1 from his Secrets of Heaven.

6 The six days or time periods, meaning so many consecutive stages in a person’s regeneration, are these, in outline: 7 The first stage is preliminary, extending from infancy to just before regeneration, and is called void, emptiness, and darkness. The first stirring, which is the Lord’s mercy, is the Spirit of God in constant motion on the face of the water. 8 In the second stage, a distinction is drawn between the things that are the Lord’s and those that are our own. The things that are the Lord’s are called a “remnant” in the Word. In this instance the “remnant” refers principally to religious knowledge acquired from early childhood on. This remnant is stored away, not to reappear until we arrive at such a stage.
At present the second stage rarely comes into play without trouble, misfortune, and grief, which enable bodily and worldly concerns—things that are our own—to fade away and in effect die out. The things that belong to the outer self, then, are separated from those that belong to the inner self, the inner self containing the remnant that the Lord has put aside to await this time and this purpose. 9 The third stage is one of repentance. During this time, at the prompting of the inner self, we speak devoutly and reverently and yield a good harvest (acts of neighborly kindness, for instance). These effects are lifeless nonetheless, since we suppose that they come of our own doing. They are called the tender plant, then the seed-bearing plant, and lastly the fruit tree. 10 In the fourth stage, love stirs and faith enlightens us. Before this time we may have spoken devoutly and yielded a good harvest, but we did so in a state of trial and anguish, not at the call of faith and kindness. In consequence they are now kindled in our inner self and are called the two lights. 11 In the fifth stage, we speak with conviction and, in the process, strengthen ourselves in truth and goodness. The things we then produce have life in them and are called the fish of the sea and the birds in the heavens. 12 In the sixth stage, we act with conviction and therefore with love in speaking truth and doing good. What we then produce is called a living soul and a beast. Because we begin to act as much from love as from conviction, we become spiritual people, who are called [God’s] image. In regard to our spiritual lives, we now find pleasure and nourishment in religious knowledge and acts of kindness; and these are called our food. In regard to our earthly lives, we still find pleasure and sustenance in things relating to our body and our senses, which cause strife until love takes charge and we develop a heavenly character. 13 Not everyone who undergoes regeneration reaches this stage. Some (the great majority, these days) arrive only at the first stage, some only at the second, some at the third, fourth, or fifth, very few at the sixth, and almost no one at the seventh.

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