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HardMirror:
we all know apc lost osun state no need to be going round and round. That is my state.

The religious version about there god would be "we all know god created heaven and earth in six days, no need to be going round and round. That is my religion".

Sorry, I know nothing of the sort, and it's my state too!

HardMirror:
Honestly i was surprised too. And if you cannot still see that atiku would take some few thousands more than jonathan did from the northern states then there is no need to stress myself talking to you. This is a fact!

You don't need to stress yourself talking to me, wtf! But claiming your opinion is fact is no different to a believer claiming their belief is fact! My hope is that you are wrong, you bloody religious git, lol!

Read the entire post 9!

budaatum:
I understand it to be talking about the host being the body of Christ. Is that incorrect? Barron admits Jesus was speaking metaphorically which I agree with, for Jesus did not cut off some of his flesh and give it to his disciples to eat!

Here is what he said in relation to it:

“The kings of the Gentiles lord it over them; and those who exercise authority over them call themselves Benefactors. But you are not to be like that. Instead, the greatest among you should be like the youngest, and the one who rules like the one who serves. For who is greater, the one who is at the table or the one who serves? Is it not the one who is at the table? But I am among you as one who serves.

"God ordains strength out of the mouth of babes and sucklings", see, "the one who rules like the one who serves".

The flesh and blood to me is the Word of God that life has been injected into. And by 'life injected into', I mean not just claiming "Lord! Lord!", but "doing my will". One can eat all the words one wants but if they do not become the flesh and blood in one, one worships in vain, 9.

Please be specific when you ask about videos you post so I know what part you specifically mean.

MuttleyLaff:
Of course it was test budaatum, but what was Abraham tested on, what would be a best test subject to test, validate and verify Abraham with?

What do you cherish budaatum, what is the name of that thing that's so precious to you and dear to your soppy heart, huh? C'mon spill it, don't go all shy on me now.

Ahha! So the question is:
Would Abraham not comply because Abraham cherishs Isaac, who incidentally, is the promised child, whom a now well advanced in years Abraham, miraculously had, when Abraham was sterile, infertile and impotent?

So it was a test? How stupidly patronising of Yahweh! It definitely isn't a knowitall as some like to believe.

HardMirror:
exactly. Yet the apc apologists cannot counter this intelligently. We are giving them logical analysis but they are just making noise with no basis here

You are giving an opinion, please!

HardMirror:
dont worry you will calm down when it happens. Remember how u were confused during the osun election? Takes to apc last minute rigging. You became voiceless. This time you will know reality is different from fantasy

When you lose, you will call it rigging. What do you call it when you win I wonder?

MuttleyLaff:
I am sorry budaatum, what exactly, for the sake of this discussion, do you think Abraham was tested on?

If I were to test you budaatum, the test will have to involve something you cherish, something you hold dearly, it will have to be with something they'll will have to kill you first and the prise your clinging on to fingers, off before they'll take the thing off you. You know thats how the cookie crumbles now.

So, if it wasn't a test, what exactly was it?

Did Abraham not cherish Isaac?

I hope you're very wrong!

MuttleyLaff:
budaatum, it has nothing to do with being "...childishly insecure and needing constant reassurance..." , it all was for the benefit and cause of Abraham. Afterall, Yahweh knows it all, but does Abraham know himself all, talkless know it all like Yahweh does?

Abraham since leaving Ur, had no problems, distinguishing the voice of Yahweh from his earlier abandoned gods.

Sorry muttley, but it seems you cannot get away from what you've been told to think. There's no reason to tell Abraham to go and kill his son if you don't really want him to. And there's no reason to test if he would if you already knew he would if you told him to.

zone51:
Osun got the lowest, yet Kwara that got double figure of that has nothing to show for it when it comes to infrastructural development. God bless Ogbeni Rauf Aregbesola.

God bless Ogbeni Rauf Aregbesola for not paying salary and only half when he does? Is our allocation not small because they deduct debt before paying it?

(I think while I wait for education on the basis for revenue sharing formula.)

abc115:
You are ignorant man. ..Do you know the basis for revenue sharing formula?

This is true. Please educate me on "the basis for revenue sharing formula".

Jokerman:
This is beautiful... God bless Trump... 2nd term ti sure ju!!!

This is what should be introduced in the North of Nigeria and see how violence and boko haram will reduce

This is exactly what boko haram are trying to introduce in the North with their version of the bible!

9inches:
When I said "you", I meant anyone with your type of subjectivist interpretation of Christianity and the bible.

Do you realize you are still peddling the already debunked "Christ is against religion" argument? Jesus was against folks teaching the wrong thing. He was a practicing Jew, goes to the synagogue often. Even when he said "destroy this temple", he followed it up with "I will rebuild it in 3 days."

Every interpretation of Christianity and the bible is subjective, 9. That's why its understanding has changed over time and why there's so many versions and interpretations. Everyone may think their interpretation is the correct one, but none of them can claim objectivity. Not even the Bible can be claimed to be objective since it is written from a subjective viewpoint.

And no, I am not "peddling the ..... "Christ is against religion" argument" as you assume. I am not against religion myself, in as much as it means regularly attending a place to learn under a teacher who knows better. Or do you not know that religiously going to church every Sunday is what became every day school? What I am against is the idea that one must remain in the same class all through one's life. Surely there must be graduation day when one has learnt enough and abandons ones childish ways?

9inches:
My question was:
1. Is that incorrect?
2. Do you disagree with any part of the clip?
3. Is the Holy Spirit responsible for the contradicting interpretations in Christianity?

Answer the questions and then you can go ahead with the explanations.

Your questions are too broad! Is what correct? Which part of the clip do you mean? And haven't I explained above what the holy spirit is?

HappyPagan:
How is it going, buda?

Not encouraging, I daresay. Beginning to think one needs religious genes to be religious, and I don't have any. And I think I might have chosen a rather objective rendition of the Bible with the notes and all. One shouldn't expect credible scholars to bullshit one I guess, not after the history they've lived through.

MuttleyLaff:
Abram had cut ties with his other gods, so you are mistaken to think Abram mistook his other gods for Yahweh.

Then Yahweh would be an ass for playing stupid games with Abraham, or childishly insecure and needing constant reassurance and couldn't have been omniknowitall either since it wouldn't have had to test Abraham to know what Abraham would have done!

There's nothing to say Abraham was not still in learning stage however, learning to distinguish the voice of Yahweh from his earlier gods.

Nbote:
No b suicide kill am.. Na him kill himself

Lol!

rainylad:
You may be a methuselah aged a thousand years,i care less....99% of Yorubas hailed and encouraged him when he wrote letters to Jonathan, dramatically tore his PDP membership card and aligned with buhari/APC in 2015!!!

Fast-forwrad 2019 and suddenly he is a monkey and gorilla who should be crushed according to same yorubas simply because he is now against buhari

I'm not against him because he is against Buhari. His constant flip flopping should make sensible people wonder!

Blue3k:
People escape from crippling poverty and get higher standard of living overall. The issue was people wanted better they're opportunist. Mexico isn't that bad but people would rather be in United states.

Because US is better! I was in Mexico City for a year and it felt like I was in Nigeria with people living in tremor affected and otherwise abandoned houses, children selling on the streets and rampant kidnappings!

rainylad:
Meanwhile same APC bingos who are abusing and calling Obasanjo a gorrilla now use to hail him to high heavens in 2015/2016 as well.

Hailed him in 2015/2016? Perhaps dem just born you!

Some of us hailed him in '79 when he became the first military head of state to hand over to a civilian government. After then though, it seems his brain just died or maybe a clone took over from him in prison!

TATIME:
Jehovah only gave us rules to guide us as a protection from harming ourselves due to our limited knowledge of the flesh we possess called "body".

"Rules to guide", is not the same as dictating to. Stop making your god sound like some petty tyrant.

Yes now! Remembering Khasoggi does not fit the MAGA agenda!

We have no shame, obviously.

Let us all therefore thank the senile fool for standing by his words!

I thank you lovely people for reminding me!

Can someone please remind us what this senile fool wrote about Atiku again. I might have just forgotten!

TATIME:
Verily Verily i say to you my friend, whatever you spew into the hearing of your audience can make them pause for a moment but SEEING the PRACTICAL APPLICATION of your theory will remain in their hearts forever!
You're gradually acting like a clown now because it's the audience who needs to step forward for further inquiries if what they've heard has left an impression NOT the other way round!
In fact i'm beginning to see the spirit intolerance in you buda as you can't hold on to the fact that your audience is yet convinced of all that you're saying. Please when the ATHEISTS starts to hunt for those who are keeping their FAITH don't join in inflicting pains on people for not agreeing to your terms!

You don't have to agree to my "terms". I haven't even asked you to since I strongly believe everyone makes up their own terms. Or how does it sound that I claim freewill and take your free will from you?

You are simply projecting your intolerant Tatime clownishness on buda, but I of course don't expect you to notice.

Ubenedictus:
I certainly don't know that . Can you proof this, and does similarities with parts of other ancient works mean it is not true?

That's a really poor argument

You didn't know "Christians can not even agree on what constitutes the Biblical canon", or "the books in the Bible were written by men"?

Have a look at this thread and come tell me why you refuse to know please!

MuttleyLaff:
"²Joshua said to all the people, “This is what the Lord, the God of Israel, says:
‘Long ago your ancestors, including Terah the father of Abraham and Nahor, lived beyond the Euphrates River and worshiped other gods.
³But I took your father Abraham from the land beyond the Euphrates and led him throughout Canaan and gave him many descendants. I gave him Isaac"
- Joshua 24:2-3

Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child?

Before answering the question, let's acknowledge and get a few things into perspective first
1/ Abram, before becoming Abraham, was a worshipper of idols, an idolater, in short.
2/ Child sacrificing to these idols was a common and prevailing practice then and Abram was accustomed to it
3/ Deuteronomy 12:30-31 was formalized 400 years plus after the historic Abraham's near-sacrifice of his son Isaac
4/ It is a well known historical and documentated fact that Abram tithed in line with the prevailing Mesopotamia custom to tithe
Artifacts shows and testifies to heathens practice of tithing. Like few other things, tithing was a status quo, same as child sacrifices and/or ritualistic killing of children with Abraham then.

People then and even to date, are doing detestable things God hates and they really, are things, deserving intense dislikes. They are, things like, people believing that by performing child sacrifices and/or carrying out ritualistic killing of children they are pleasing or appeasing the god(s). Off track, another is, performing ritual sex acts, allegedly to get blessings, where males offer themselves as temple prostitutes to patrons for sacred sexual rituals purpose(s) believing they will receive divine blessing, favour, power etcetera at the end or back of it. Anyway back on track, from the slight diversion, so the reason why God told Abraham to sacrifice his child, funnily and ultimately enough, is to end the disgusting, foolish and senseless child human sacrifice practice.

A new Sheriff is in town, a new Person has come to power, the new Person has come into Abraham's life and is going to make changes. This new authority figure in Abraham's life, is taking charge, laying down the rules and letting Abraham know that the line on child sacrifice(s) is drawn. Sure Abraham was tested, to see, if he will carry out the command but fact is, God, from the word, go, and on principle, disagrees with the practice and so, we have it that, ultimately did not allow the sacrifice to happen and so the experience, presented Abraham with the knowledge, the understanding and the discernment that God is not into the business of child sacrifices nor into ritualistic killing of children, done supposedly by those looking for wealth, riches, fame and power or done to curry divine favour from these wicked and cruel acts

Many wont see the wood for the trees, as "test loyal servant... ask him to do something the god hates" is a red herring. It doesnt have to make sense to mortals, God is more sensible than the most sensible ever lived or living man

He does already know the outcome HenryDion, but does the testee know?

Self-discovery, is finding oneself, its taking the journey within, discovering who you truly are and finding out all the mystries that lies within you. Abraham, from that experience, got to know and learned many lessons that day.

"A wise man, can learn more from a foolish question, than a fool, can learn from a wise answer."
- Bruce Lee
cc CodeTemplar, tintingz,

You would have done well to just claim Abram mistook his other gods for Yahweh!

malvisguy212:
let me ask you this. if Abraham decided to sacrifice Issac on his own. will God accept his sacrifice ?

This is a stupid question! If Abraham sacrificed Isaac without God telling him to do so, wouldn't that be murder?!

California megachurch pastor Jim Howard died by suicide last week, according to a statement released by Real Life Church (RLC) on Facebook.

“It is with a heavy heart that I can confirm we suffered a tragic loss on our church staff this week,” lead pastor Rusty George wrote in the statement. “Sadly, Jim suffered in private with mental health challenges… This week he made the tragic decision to end his pain.”

I'm waiting for this to hit the fan with lots of schools and students yelling, "not in our classes, Trump!"

It's going to become as big as the intelligent designer got, is what I reckon.

TATIME:
Jesus lived all His pre~human life in heaven as a spirit being,angels in heaven always adhere strictly to instructions so they DON'T have freewill unlike humans who lives in the flesh here on earth!

You're talking to the wrong person Ta, a person with a brain that works, and not some two year old whom you feed. Is this the result of your being controlled and told what to think so you don't have to?

When told what you wrote above, the first thing that comes to my mind is, so, the door to heaven is in Mary's womb and it takes nine months to get through? And he still has to wait 30 odd years?! How absurd for a God who could have just said, "Jesus be, and 30 something" , and Jesus would just be 30 something!

Then there's the lie, or shall I just call it an untruth, or you just don't know. Read the following from [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+14%3A12-15&version=NIV]Isaiah 14:12-15[/url] and let me know if angels don't have freewill!

“I will ascend to the heavens; I will raise my throne above the stars of God; I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly, on the utmost heights of Mount Zaphon. I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.”

Or is it your position that the being who said those words was not an angel in heaven?