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HellVictorinho:
Why the if's?
And there was no condition put in place by anyone.
Laws are actually observations-turn-derivations-turn-principles.
There can't be laws when the things that are meant to follow them don't exist.
Laws are determined in science, they are not designed.
And that is why we keep testing.
So,we can get the needed picture.

HellVictorinho:
No one did it,it was bound to happen..

HellVictorinho:
The formula shows that the Existential Constant as a phenomenon effects Actuality timelessly.

aonag:
every nation borrows to fund budget... hear yourself.

aonag:
every nation borrows to fund budget... hear yourself.

XxSabrinaxX:
How does it make any sense to punish a man for crime you not only knew will happen, but you could easily stop and spare everyone the pain of the result?

XxSabrinaxX:
Come on, muttley . You're supposed to be smarter than this. Its not a matter of consistency and you know that very well. He knew the implications of Adam eating the fruit. Being the all loving, merciful god he is, he could have easily found a way to salvage the situation without subjecting mankind through all this torture. I'm beginning to question your knowledge on this subject, muttley.

aonag:
but nigeria is borrowing to fund her budget. who are we deceiving in this country if its not ourselves?

HellVictorinho:
I don't need a link to understand that time creates limits.

HellVictorinho:
Read my post in the 'Timing of Existence'.
It(my post) ends with a formula this time around.

9inches:
Steve Hawking says "there was nothing around before the big bang."

HellVictorinho:
It is not true that there was a time when nothing existed.

9inches:
So which/what was the first "big [some]thing" that started the rest? Did Buddha say what it was and what it was made of? In short, when was the beginning of "something"?

9inches:
Philosophically and theologically, if something came into existence at a certain point in time, that is, if it had a beginning, then there needs to be a cause, an explanation, for why it came to be. But if something exists outside of time, like God, then it does not need an explanation for its beginning, because it does not have one.

9inches:
So, the question of who created God would be nonsensical, because it amounts to asking “who created an uncreated being?”

XxSabrinaxX:
.....I didn't get you

XxSabrinaxX:
I believe that God does not exist. I did not choose to.

XxSabrinaxX:
There's more where that came from, but let's leave it at 5 bible verses.

LoJ:
This is a very interesting topic. I shall offer my opinion as follows.

Free will does exist but for most people it is an illusion.

What we think are evidences of free will (freedom to choose one thing over another) are almost all the time actually the effects of previous causes, known or unknown. Our present character tastes habits and therefore choices are shaped by previous causes such as environment, circumstances, events, subliminal impulses, unconscious influences that lead us to make them, while we deceive ourselves that we are freely making our choices.

There is an interesting concept in psychology called the illusion of control. It shows how people can be led to a definite response while believing they have the control and are freely making their choices. This was once illustrated by a TV series called "The mentalist". I would encourage people watch season 6 episode 16 to get what I mean.

In a nutshell, my point is we are (at least most of us) not really free (willed). Rather we are determined and the actions we take are the effects of some Causes which in turn were previously caused.

True free will does exist though. It is the ability to liberate oneself by annihilating the effects of all previous causes. Then one becomes similar to a primary cause, meaning he has the ability to iniate a new sequence in the system, a new series of unending causes and effects . One then has the potential of a god.

PastorAIO:
Who is the God that would have created God's character?

Created or not, God has a character and his actions are Character bound. Ergo God doesn't have absolute free will.

9inches:
Could you please cite any atheist who believes something came out of "something" and not "nothing". Thanks!

HellVictorinho:
Alright, I was a bright kid with the mind of a marsian.
Now,I am a great dude with nothing but a ration.
No passions,I will make a great fiction.
Is this real or rap?
I guess you might feel like taking a nap.

HellVictorinho:
All things are ultimately Meaningless.

MuttleyLaff:
Who streaks in sub 5^o anyway. Besides you'll get done by the Old Bill for indecent exposure or get bundled off to see a shrink

raumdeuter:
Your ancestors probably killed twins or did human sacrifice or invaded other peoples land to take slaves like was the norm in those days

So its hypocritical for you today to condemn people killing twins, people getting killed for human sacrifice or invasion of other peoples land

Ihedinobi3:
it has been my observation that atheists assume that embracing atheism confirms that they are astronomically intelligent - certainly more intelligent

HellVictorinho:
You can as well strip naked on the streets.

HellVictorinho:
As regards the physical/math formulas,I could go with letters instead of numbers.
I can surprise you guys!!!!,

Ihedinobi3:
I was aware that you are an atheist, budaatum. My question was about your objection to that existence of hell. What is your argument in that regard? Assuming that a God exists, why would hell not make sense then? Or is it your position that if a God does exist, then it follows that Hell should exist as well and this would not be a contradiction in any way?

HellVictorinho:
I guess I am still finding it hard to ignore geensteejay.

HellVictorinho:
But,I know why you are typing like this.