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TATIME:
But the later will result to forcing the former to convert,then the end will come! It's already happening GRADUALLY, as many are now making use of their brains!

HellVictorinho:
The brain of the designer must be cracked.

9inches:
Everyone has belief(s).

Offpoint:
Why most you people always drag me into your conversations on NL??

HellVictorinho:
He has suffered.

TATIME:
Please nah you should have known that i'm not that sound in English as the rest of you,so you need not get enraged. You're to tell me "hey buddy,you're taking off point" and i'll check myself that's all!

TATIME:
That's budaatum for REAL! of course it is. Atheist buda! Please try to maintain being an atheist born one. You don't need to permit me! and continue questioning whoever comes around you saying they've got FAITH because you'll always feel their lack of etiquette as you insist on POINTS! I don't insist on points, nor do I care who has faith without works or care if a dog has etiquette! I train dogs!
Apart from these TWO you went straight to what Jesus taught His followers, so it was straight? And dishonestly you gave it a wobbly score? even if you don't agree with Him on what evidence do you make that judgement!? you're able to point out what being a follower of Christ entails everything? Or is there anymore. Let's assume He never existed or Jesus was just a fabrication, why assume that? To what end? at least you budaatum could EASILY say to a churchgoer "you're not a REAL Christian" no I can't! What rubbish is this! Is it not true that if buda goes up to anybody and says "you're not a REAL Christian", buda is first, judging, second, ignoring the mote in buda's eyes, and third being a hypocrite as well as an arrogant priq? Remind me, is that not the path to damnation and hell? since you're acquainted with His (assumed) teachings! Tatime, no be book? No be to just take am, open am at the beginning and read, turn page, read, turn page, read, turn page, read, turn page, read, turn page till you get to the end? I guess its a lot of read, turn page. I can see why some turn it into god!
Thank you budaatum!
the pleasure is really all mine Tatime.

nwabekeyi:
Pope Francis declares evolution and Big Bang theory are real and God is not 'a magician with a magic wand'

Francis goes against Benedict XVI’s apparent support for 'intelligent design' - but does hail his predecessor’s 'great contribution to theology'

The theories of evolution and the Big Bang are real and God is not “a magician with a magic wand”, Pope Francis has declared.

Speaking at the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, the Pope made comments which experts said put an end to the “pseudo theories” of creationism and intelligent design that some argue were encouraged by his predecessor, Benedict XVI.

Evolution in nature is not inconsistent with the notion of creation, because evolution requires the creation of beings that evolve.”

The Catholic Church has long had a reputation for being anti-science – most famously when Galileo faced the inquisition and was forced to retract his “heretic” theory that the Earth revolved around the Sun.

But Pope Francis’s comments were more in keeping with the progressive work of Pope Pius XII, who opened the door to the idea of evolution and actively welcomed the Big Bang theory. In 1996, John Paul II went further and suggested evolution was “more than a hypothesis” and “effectively proven fact”.

Yet more recently, Benedict XVI and his close advisors have apparently endorsed the idea that intelligent design underpins evolution – the idea that natural selection on its own is insufficient to explain the complexity of the world. In 2005, his close associate Cardinal Schoenborn wrote an article saying “evolution in the sense of common ancestry might be true, but evolution in the neo-Darwinian sense – an unguided, unplanned process – is not”.

Giovanni Bignami, a professor and president of Italy’s National Institute for Astrophysics, told the Italian news agency Adnkronos: “The pope’s statement is significant. We are the direct descendents from the Big Bang that created the universe. Evolution came from creation.”

Giulio Giorello, professor of the philosophy of science at Milan’s University degli Studi, told reporters that he believed Francis was “trying to reduce the emotion of dispute or presumed disputes” with science.

Despite the huge gulf in theological stance between his tenure and that of his predecessor, Francis praised Benedict XVI as he unveiled a bronze bust of him at the academy's headquarters in the Vatican Gardens.

“No one could ever say of him that study and science made him and his love for God and his neighbour wither,” Francis said, according to a translation by the Catholic News Service.

“On the contrary, knowledge, wisdom and prayer enlarged his heart and his spirit. Let us thank God for the gift that he gave the church and the world with the existence and the pontificate of Pope Benedict.”


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/pope-francis-declares-evolution-and-big-bang-theory-are-right-and-god-isnt-a-magician-with-a-magic-9822514.html

TATIME:
Why don't you just ask me "why do you call some claiming Christian ATHEISTS?

TATIME:
Hmmmmmmmmm budaatum!
Well thanks for the enlightenment even though you missed some of it but at least you've scored over 70%.

FortifiedCity:
How does this support 'The big bang theory'

TATIME:
So the statement "serves you right" is often used to mock those who refused to let go of their Faith easily!

9inches:
Make a case for their own beliefs as I'm making mine.

9inches:
Not only him, HellVictorinho and others too. I'm waiting for them to make a logical case why they are right.

I don't think atheists lie necessarily. I think they just don't know the truth. Many atheists I know are noble people in my opinion. Sam Harris comes to mind.

TATIME:
Good morning budaatum! How was your night?
Remember i'm one of Jehovah's Witnesses (true Christians), we're used to all manners of insults ranging from verbal to physical and even fierce persecution. So it's our normal everyday life as we often face those who are demanding for the reason of hope in us! 1Peter 3:15
I am telling you now that whoever has the attitude of shying away from all of these out of pride,ego or self esteem can NEVER be a CHRISTIAN!
Believe it or not,that personality "Jesus" (as written in those documents though atheists are saying he's just a fabricated figure) was known for humiliation in His neighborhood. He wasn't a celebrity!
So those celebrities you're seeing around today accumulating material things to the point of being DANGEROUSLY rich can't truthfully be called His followers as in those following His footsteps. Luke 6:40
True Christians are objects of hatred and ridicules, that's another reason why i disagreed with what some asserted claiming Christianity as written in the documents was a fabrication from humans like you and i,because it's not natural to welcome such selfless habit it's total negativity to human's characteristics !
If we're to be sincere with ourselves, you and i know very well that it's not easy for humans to accept such selfless thoughts in our world full of selfish people!
Thus the slogan "ACCEPT JESUS" is just a mockery of the reality because for any normal person to truthfully accept the REAL Jesus as in the personality as described in the story will take a lot of humility while going about searching for like minds with intense pleading and follow-up on the part of those preaching and teaching people about Christ to win a single soul!
For a certainty there must have been an extraordinary intelligent being behind such ideas, let them ignore it,let them debunk it,let them dispute it,even let them fiercely criticise and oppose it with severe persecution,there will always be TRUE Christians proving to be REAL witnesses of that uncommon personality "JESUS of NAZARETH"

9inches:
What he described in the video is something. Could you explain it otherwise?

teufelein:
Anybody who campaigned for Buhari is either an illiterate or an educated mumu.

TATIME:
That's just what a debate simply means! We think deeply to ascertain what the other person had in mind,but since you believe i'm an atheist it's OK. I'll remember you said so while i stick to the WRITTEN documents trying to figure out what to do with it!
After all you too are sticking to some written documents that aren't penned down in your presence so in that respect i think we're even!

HellVictorinho:
but you can't force all the intellectuals to keep flogging you intellectually.

TATIME:
HE has no reason whatsoever to humble HIMSELF before humans who are mere dust!

TATIME:
I feel like saying God bless you budaatum!
So what's wrong when JEHOVAH humbly listened to the Moses and took his advice?

TATIME:
Hmmmmmmmmm budaatum!
Well thanks for the enlightenment even though you missed some of it but at least you've scored over 70%.
So let's hear from Sabrina,please be sincere were you able to stay in tune with these explanations when you claimed to be a Christian?

TATIME:
HE has no reason whatsoever to humble HIMSELF before humans who are mere dust! Psalms 103:14
But as a loving father HE wants us to copy such fine qualities from HIM! Ephesians 5:1 compared to Galatians 5:23

TATIME:
OK let's resolve that in a simple way!

TATIME:
*what did Jesus say about carrying of weapons?

TATIME:
*what was His stand on BLOOD or WATER relation?

TATIME:
*what are the obligations of a Christian?

TATIME:
*how do you react to curses from an enemy?

TATIME:
*what is His stand on politics?

TATIME:
Your effectiveness in answering these questions is enough to prove if you TRUTHFULLY know what being a Christian means!

XxSabrinaxX:
Lol . Get to me for what? Its not like he has managed to answer ANY of my questions; he's still struggling with 2 of them

Its just that I hate that disgusting phrase "Those who left the faith were never true Christians to begin with.". A very intellectually dishonest statement and proof that even they don't have 100% faith in their beliefs

TATIME:
Thanks for that thought provoking question Sir/Ma, the title God doesn't mean someone who is OMNI this OMNI that, otherwise HE himself won't have called others Gods! Psalms 82:1,6
God is just a TITLE and so many spirit beings are answering to that (1Corinthians 8:5) but according to the Bible, there is one that's greater than all other spirit beings! Psalms 83:18
If you're reading through HIS words and you don't grasps HIS attributes,please try to meditate on recorded events to truthfully know more about HIS qualities. For instance HE got so angry that HE wanted to destroy the whole Assembly of Israelites in the wilderness due to their stubborness and lack of faith, but it was Moses who reminded Him that if HE does that of course HIS promise to Abraham still stands since Moses (the one HE intended to preserve) is still Abraham's offspring. But all the nations who heard how HE brought these people out of Egypt will say "HE couldn't fulfill HIS promise to take them to the promised land so HE destroyed them on the way" Exodus 32:8-14

frosbel2:
Guys , you cannot win against Jehovah Witnesses.

They are one of the most DELUDED followers of ANGEL Jesus ( They don't of course believe in the Trinity ). The more facts you bring up, the more they twist 'scripture' to their own confusion. Argument is their expertise and they will throw anything at a discussion hoping that some of their made up nonsense sticks.

Alas TATIME we know what it is, more astounding rubbish from you based on MYTH.

Ubenedictus:
nothing particularly special here oga. It is old news that the bible we are holding today developed over several centuries.

9inches:
They don't have to believe I exist. Their beliefs have no effect on the reality of my existence.