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 Christianity Etc › Re: Your Beliefs by budaatum: 1:17pm On Jan 12, 2019 |
HellVictorinho:You know me lol. If a person has a brain, I never tire. It's those who refuse to use their brains that I ignore. And I daresay, 9inches has a brain even though I might quibble only a tiny bit about how he use of it. Anyway, I'm offline this afternoon. Going to do some gardening! |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Your Beliefs by budaatum: 1:08pm On Jan 12, 2019 |
Stephen Hawking on The Origin of the Universe |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Your Beliefs by budaatum: 12:52pm On Jan 12, 2019 |
9inches:Lordreed has been telling you the same thing, that creators do not exist. Or is it your preferred belief that atheists lie? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Your Beliefs by budaatum: 12:50pm On Jan 12, 2019*. Modified: 1:08pm On Jan 12, 2019 |
9inches:My previous should be "his nothing was something". Quite a lot of things to be precise. Hawking described it in the video you posted. Please watch it 9. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Your Beliefs by budaatum: 12:03pm On Jan 12, 2019 |
9inches:Ok! |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Your Beliefs by budaatum: 12:03pm On Jan 12, 2019 |
9inches:His nothing was not something, and I am sure you know that! |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Women Need To Throw Away The Shackles Of Religion by budaatum: 4:31am On Jan 12, 2019 |
9inches:Why do people have to believe you exist rather than know you exist? How did you come about? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Is There A God? by budaatum: 4:18am On Jan 12, 2019*. Modified: 1:24pm On Feb 19, 2019 |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Is There A God? by budaatum: 3:16am On Jan 12, 2019*. Modified: 2:02am On Feb 15, 2019 |
TOSIN116:"I can't believe that!" said Alice. "Can't you?" the Queen said in a pitying tone. "Try again: draw a long breath, and shut your eyes." Alice laughed. "There's no use trying," she said: "one can't believe impossible things." "I daresay you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was your age, I always did it for half-an-hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." Through the Looking-Glass, and What Alice Found There |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Why Does The God Build Mansion In Heaven But Refuse To Build A Temple For Itself by budaatum: 3:03am On Jan 12, 2019 |
Location! The premium on real estate in heaven is huge. You just calculate how much the pastors cream off selling it. 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Contra Bibliolatreia II -the Septuagint by budaatum: 2:58am On Jan 12, 2019 |
Ubenedictus:You guys just about blow my mind with this thread! Cc Martinez19 |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 11:15pm On Jan 11, 2019*. Modified: 11:36pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
Trump: I'll huff and I'll puff but no national emergency, for now. Trump backs away from declaring national emergency to fund border wall |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Your Beliefs by budaatum: 9:24pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
LordReed:He's trying to be coy, I think. |
| Culture › Re: Yoruba Offensive Proverbs by budaatum: 5:52pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Your Beliefs by budaatum: 5:46pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
9inches:Do note, atheists do no accept that creators exist. If they did exist, they'd have to have existed ad infinitum, an argument theists illogically try to constrain with their timeless gods despite they being the ones to start the "something must come from something" idea in the first place! In retort, the atheist starts seeing turtles and asks, "what created gods?" An atheist would claim something existed out of which the current something that exists came from. It however does not imply creation, just as water melting does not imply the water created the ice. |
| Politics › Re: Buhari Speaks On Ganduje’s Bribe-taking Videos At APC Campaign Meeting by budaatum: 5:32pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
Daviddson:Please don't start me on Trump! Not every leader needs to be a megalomaniac shouting about their involvement in everything! Besides, watch his attitude towards the America EFCC and let me know if he is empowering or restraining, and why! So, are you suggesting that because Buhari is not juvenile like Trump, he is neither restraining nor empowering the EFCC |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Your Beliefs by budaatum: 5:22pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
HellVictorinho:Follow carefully. It's interesting too. |
| Politics › Re: Buhari Speaks On Ganduje’s Bribe-taking Videos At APC Campaign Meeting by budaatum: 5:21pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
Daviddson:Many would disagree since they think he directs who they look into. And someone has to budget money to them so they function. Their opinion I guess. Are you suggesting he's not restraining them, though he might not be empowering them? 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Your Beliefs by budaatum: 5:14pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
HellVictorinho:How can I possibly be a creationist when I have argued against the existence of a creator all along? All I know is that things exist. So perhaps call me an existentialist, if anything. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Your Beliefs by budaatum: 5:12pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
9inches:I haven't read Grand Design. However, did you listen to his elaborate description of his "nothing"? It sounded like quite a lot of 'something', to me! |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Your Beliefs by budaatum: 5:07pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
9inches:Why? Do you need numbers? Would you take my word for the name I give you? I am an atheist, and I have told you my view. It is a view that is held by many, some atheists, and some theists, and not unique to either. "Turtles all the way down" is an expression of the problem of infinite regress. The saying alludes to the mythological idea of a World Turtle that supports the earth on its back. It suggests that this turtle rests on the back of an even larger turtle, which itself is part of a column of increasingly large turtles that continues indefinitely (i.e., "turtles all the way down" ).
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| Christianity Etc › Re: Your Beliefs by budaatum: 5:04pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
9inches:Did your creator of things come from somewhere? |
| Politics › Buhari Will Not Cook For You! by budaatum(op): 5:01pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
Dear "there hunger in the land" folks, Buhari NEVER promised you he was going to the kitchen, cook for you and serve you food on your table, what he promised was to facilitate your access to food; -By helping you move -> Improved Airports, Roads, Rails & Bridges via Sukuk, PIDF etc -By helping you farm -> Fertiliser blending plants, anchor borrowers program etc -By improving on power -> power sector recovery program, incremental power, energising economies etc -By feeding your children at school -> HGSFP and creating jobs for cooks, farmers and logistics handlers -By providing soft loans -> Trader Moni, Market Moni, obliging banks to accept movable assets as collateral etc Baba is fulfilling that promise so that hunger will never be our portion, we are moving on to the #NextLevel #PMBPYO2019 Jack Below is one of the comments in response. While you are busy dwelling on hatred and bias against the person of Buhari, a Kenyan residing in Nigeria since 2012, who is the CEO of a large multinational company an expatriate has this to say about our country and us. "You see the problem with Nigeria is not just the corruption but the thinking. I am sorry to say, the average Nigerian does not think. They have all the degrees in the world, hold fancy positions, but they do not think." "In other countries there is corruption, but the people think, so they know how their corrupt actions affect others and the country, in Nigeria, there is no thinking. Corruption is a fundamental human right here. It is the way of life. You people do not even bother to know how it has put you in the situation you are all complaining about, you don't know how it affects you, all you do as though it is second nature is corrupt yourself and others, while ignoring and denigrating anything that was put in place to make your country function." "Just Ghana there thinks. See their country. See your country. Let me tell you a story. I went to Ghana without a yellow card, the immigration people or is it their health officers at the airport asked for it. I told him I had none. He said I cannot enter the country without one. I begged him o. He said I should find him something, I found him something." "So, the man went and brought the yellow card, told me to pay the official fee, filled all the relevant documents and then gave me the vaccinations, handed me the yellow card and let me go. But in Nigeria when I came here without yellow card. Your people at the airport told me to find them something. I found them something. They gave me the yellow card and told me to go on my way. I asked them, won't you give me vaccination? They said there is no need. I told them but it is to protect me, to protect you, and protect others in the country. They laughed and said... "Don't worry, God will not allow any bad thing happen." "You see, they are corrupt and not thinking, they can't relate things or connect dots. They will stay there and complain about everything. Even the thing they are causing themselves, they will complain about it as though it is someone else that caused it." "You people are saying things are hard in this country. I sit laughing at you. How many expatriates in your country have you seen complaining? I mean people doing legitimate business. They adapt, change strategy, do their work quietly, earn their money and leave. But you people who are used to free easy money will complain when the situation changes and for you to survive, you need to think. It is the thinking that worries you. That is why your president said you are lazy. You are mentally lazy. Even patience is too much of a demand for you. All you want to do is steal government money or profit from someone who has stolen it." "You are all like a pickpocket at a bus-stop who has been stealing wallets for years and when people start keeping away their wallets and protecting their pockets, he starts complaining - This country is too hard. What is wrong with people? Why would they prevent me from picking their pockets? This is the worst time ever, we should remove the person that told them to protect their pockets - You see the pick pocket feels so entitled to what belongs to others, he does not even accept that what he is doing is wrong and cannot even think deep enough to change his location or even get a job. It is thinking that is your problem. Once you start thinking in this country, you will be great, but until then, it is people like me that will come here and profit from you, while you sit there complaining." |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Your Beliefs by budaatum: 4:15pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
9inches:There's sufficient sample for you to poll. Set up a thread and ask. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Your Beliefs by budaatum: 4:08pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
9inches:So, your creator of things came from nothing? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Your Beliefs by budaatum: 4:07pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
9inches:That was me. We clarified that! |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Your Beliefs by budaatum: 4:02pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
9inches:Corrected at what? Was it not true that I wrote what your response above was to, just as much as it is absolutely true that you will be reading this, that I am about to post? 9inches:If you'd read his books, you'd know he didn't literally mean that. 9inches:Explain to me what "[the] absolute truth", is. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Your Beliefs by budaatum: 4:00pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
9inches:That is this atheist's view, that everything must come from something. Hence the "something must have existed to create the gods themselves, and something must have existed to create whatever created whatever created the gods, and something must have existed to create whatever created whatever created whatever created the gods, and something must have existed........ad infinitum." However, all atheists have different views on the subject since we are not indoctrinated to hold the same views. But most who have considered it would, and will argue against the "something from nothing" view which is more the theists position. |
| Foreign Affairs › US Fed Robs Taxpayers Of $38.5 Billion! by budaatum(op): 3:28pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
Normally, this would be ironic: The Fed doesn’t need to borrow; it creates money when it needs some. So it wouldn’t pay interest. But these are not normal times. The Fed reported its preliminary results this morning for the year 2018. The headline is that it sent $65.4 billion of its profits to the US Treasury Department in 2018, and that this amount had plunged by 18.5% from the remittances, as they’re called, in 2017, and by 44.1% from the peak of $117 billion in 2015. The Fed earns interest income on the huge pile of securities it holds. After covering operating expenses, interest expenses, and some other items, it is required to remit the rest to the Treasury Department – to the taxpayer. Therefore, the amounts in interest expense the Fed pays the banks on their “Excess Reserves” and “Required Reserves” comes out of the taxpayer’s pocket and its transferred to the banks to become bank profits, and thereby bank executive bonuses and stock holder dividends, funded by the dear taxpayers. And this amount was huge in 2018: $38.5 billion! Here’s How by Wolf Richter • Jan 10, 2019 |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Ja Funmi - Sunny Ade by budaatum(op): 3:10pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
Amazingly, no lyrics exist in Yoruba for this song! So please, if anyone can provide in Yoruba, I will gratefully post it on lyric sites crediting you. |
| Politics › Re: Buhari Speaks On Ganduje’s Bribe-taking Videos At APC Campaign Meeting by budaatum: 2:59pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
Daviddson:You mean, he let's those under him whom he selected to get on with it with minimum interference from himself? |
| Politics › Re: Buhari Speaks On Ganduje’s Bribe-taking Videos At APC Campaign Meeting by budaatum: 2:57pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
Daviddson:Are you suggesting Buhari is not empowering or constraining EFCC? 1 Like |
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