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RomanceRe: France Moves To Abolish Concept Of Marital Duty To Have Sex by budaatum: 5:44pm On Jan 31
drsibz66:
that you think your sons are the only ones brought up decently says it all.
I think the above shows your inability to read so I shouldn't really bother responding to you any further.
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RomanceRe: France Moves To Abolish Concept Of Marital Duty To Have Sex by budaatum: 4:57pm On Jan 31
Peterlove11:
You can evolve and keep evolving into oblivion.
Possibly. But your statement shows you don't actually know anything about evolution nor oblivion, if I were to be honest with you, though I'm very certain you'd disagree and argue your point till the cows get bored.

Fact is, women are not accepting the 2000 year old structure that men wrote a book about to organise society how it favours them, and are writing a new book for this modern age of the 21st century.

It's the same way many are not accepting the same structure in a book that tells them they are slaves that should honor their masters.

Our eyes have opened and we have evolved from both nonsenses! Aleluya insha'Allah Amen!
RomanceRe: This Is The Reason Why Women Generally Do Hook Up by budaatum: 4:47pm On Jan 31
yinkeys:
Tonto Dikeh just reconciled with her husband
It’s okay
Good for her. Her husband is probably good for and to her too, and I wish them a long and happy marriage.

Tonto Dikeh is however not all the women in the world, and milage differs, you might find if you open your eyes to look more.
RomanceRe: France Moves To Abolish Concept Of Marital Duty To Have Sex by budaatum: 4:41pm On Jan 31
Farrason:
You missed the core of my message..
Your "core of my message" is rather very lame.

That's why you have not engaged with me since page one of this thread, where you lost it by quoting a man written book that tells you a woman is a rib!

Farrason:
It is not good that man should be alone and so the woman was formed.
And that despite the fact that the same book clearly states that before your God created Adam and Eve to be naked ignorant slaves in his Garden in Eden, God created man[kind] in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

But I guess it sums you up that you'd be trying to enslave women in the 21st century with a book written like 2000 years ago by man and disregard the fact that women now go to school too and can read!

RomanceRe: France Moves To Abolish Concept Of Marital Duty To Have Sex by budaatum: 4:25pm On Jan 31
drsibz66:
The world doesnt revolve around your feelings.. your sons are not different from most men out there..
I never said the world revolves around my feelings, because it obviously does not, but my sons are definitely very very different from most of the men commenting here, who lack respect for their wives and think they can treat them like ribs.

And the reason my sons are very different from most of you men on here is because they have been taught to treat their sisters and other women in their life with deep regard and respect, unlike some of you men on here who think a woman is a hole and t¹ts.

There's lots of men in the world out there who don't reason like you too, so my boys are not particularly unique in that regard, they are just not like many of you here.
RomanceRe: The UK Doesn’t Destroy Nigerian Marriages; It Exposes Them by budaatum: 4:17pm On Jan 31
olabrad:
Strong women are shaping history by lying against their husbands to get him arrested after the man has sold his property to take her abroad.
Educate yourself please, and know that the truth will set you free, and liars end up in jail.

RomanceRe: France Moves To Abolish Concept Of Marital Duty To Have Sex by budaatum: 4:13pm On Jan 31
teemy:
However, understand that getting sexual with him without a prior notification plus consent counts as rape.
No it doesn't.

Just as he is not so stupid to call the police and accuse me of theft because I took 10 francs out of his pocket, so is he not stupid to claim I raped him because I got sexual with him without "prior notification plus consent".

We wouldn't have married if he was that stupid, and the police and court he takes that stupid accusation to is not stupid neither.

If I however beat my husband over the head with a pestle to knock him out and tie him up to restrain him and then "got sexual" with him all without "prior notification plus consent", I'm very certain my ass will end up in jail for a considerable amount of time, and not only for spousal rape, but for battering and abuse too. But I don't think he'd have married me if I were psycho like that.
RomanceRe: This Is The Reason Why Women Generally Do Hook Up by budaatum: 4:02pm On Jan 31
Natbrowny:
So the guys taking them on hook up are all QUALITY MEN. 😂

Or the quality men refused to date them coz the ladies dont show/have good traits.

Quality should be re-defined for better understanding. Over 2u
No, the men are lousy and not marriageable, and are only good for temporary hook up

And yes, it might be because "the quality men refused to date them coz the ladies don't show/have good traits", so the women just hook up just like men do booty call.

Quality is like beauty, it's in the eye of it's seeker. And many do find the quality they want or can settle for, which is why very many women and men do marry.
RomanceRe: France Moves To Abolish Concept Of Marital Duty To Have Sex by budaatum: 3:57pm On Jan 31
cr7lomo:
How can a husband possibly rape his wife...
By not accepting no means no!

cr7lomo:
why should his wife deny him sex ??
Here's a very short list!

She's tired.

She's bored of you.

You don't satisfy her.

She has cancer.

You are lousy in bed.

She's getting better sex with a better man.

Etc.

Etc.

Etc.
RomanceRe: France Moves To Abolish Concept Of Marital Duty To Have Sex by budaatum: 3:53pm On Jan 31
Luckysbab:
Good to know.

Now, does it imply that the husband can't divorce a wife who refuses him conjugal relations for any length of time or not?

This is the bone of contention
The thing most of you don't quite get is in the following, and especially the italics:

The proposed law also makes it impossible to use lack of sexual relations as an argument in fault-based divorce.

Most of you don't know what "fault-based divorce" is and the consequences of it, and that it applies to both genders. And you can't be bothered to research it, which just shows a serious lack of brain use and is rather pathetically sad.

Of course a person can divorce their partner, including a wife (or husband) who refuses him him (or her) conjugal relations for any length of time. You can always go to court and say you don't want to be married to that person anymore and divorce. You can even claim it's because of refusal of conjugal relations. What you can't do is claim it's their fault, because that has certain consequences, and that consequence is all that France is removing here.
RomanceRe: France Moves To Abolish Concept Of Marital Duty To Have Sex by budaatum: 3:33pm On Jan 31
cr7lomo:
So because white man says says ...it now means its forward thinking....so white men can make bad rules?? Slave mentality... same white men that say that we have more than 2 genders and that a man can marry a man ...
It is not because white man says, but because it's the wise thing to do to treat both genders equally.
RomanceRe: This Is The Reason Why Women Generally Do Hook Up by budaatum: 10:54am On Jan 31
Many women do hookup because there are not enough quality men to date.

I can order you on uber man and kick your ass out when done.

RomanceRe: The UK Doesn’t Destroy Nigerian Marriages; It Exposes Them by budaatum: 10:47am On Jan 31
Dtruthspeaker:
This is not true. It is the women who brought it on themselves when they became oloshoos crying "love kwa. Who love hep? Every one knows that men love to love and are looking for love but women have over exploited and abused it, so why would men love? Even at that the guy still loves until the woman burned him
Sorry dt, but the bold sounds like 'who square root help', and you already know my view on that.
RomanceRe: The UK Doesn’t Destroy Nigerian Marriages; It Exposes Them by budaatum: 10:43am On Jan 31
SpaceX:
I strongly advocate for women to stop getting married, marriages doesn't benefit women in anyways.
That's your opinion and choice.

When a good woman finds a good man who respects and regards her, they might marry because they benefit each other, is my opinion.
RomanceRe: France Moves To Abolish Concept Of Marital Duty To Have Sex by budaatum: 10:36am On Jan 31
Luckysbab:
Perhaps, read the complete report again, as to what triggered the bill.
It's a bill that already existed for years where I live, and backward France is just catching up due to recent happenings.
RomanceRe: France Moves To Abolish Concept Of Marital Duty To Have Sex by budaatum: 10:29am On Jan 31
ono:
You have one hell of an "ideal" world view. You think nothing can ever go wrong with your tight plans. You will get a rude awakening one day and you'd remember, Ono said so. Not praying something bad happens to you or your loved ones, but be prepared for the unexpected.
Except that I live in the very real world where quite a lot of bad things have happened to me and a lot has gone very wrong with my plans, which are not as tight as you think because reality does not work the way you seem to imagine.

I'm just not willing to add to those bad things by ignorantly marrying a person who does not respect and value me, because that's like making very bad plans, and that's just plain stupid, though not the end of the world since divorce is an option.

As for your, "prepared for the unexpected", you must forgive me for not, especially if you mean bad things where marriage is concerned, because I'm far too focused on the good things I can make happen. That said though, I do have house insurance in case my house burns down.
RomanceRe: France Moves To Abolish Concept Of Marital Duty To Have Sex by budaatum: 10:16am On Jan 31
zagorakis:
Sounds like you're not Nigerian, where are you from originally if you don't mind? I am asking because you are trying to understand street in its literal meaning.
When a Nigerian says street in a relationship context, he is referring to going back to the dating pool, which comes with "whoring" and increased body count as a woman.
At the bolded, there are alot of women the world over who are doing very well for themselves and are still single craving and begging for a man. If getting a man to commit to a woman is as easy as you highlighted would they still be single with their resources.
The problem with your folks is that they don't value the man in their lives until they lose him.

Lastly, Nigerian men are lovely, and the best in the world, when it comes to taking care of our women, once you go Nigerian you can't go back.
I am Nigerian. Both my parents are from the Orolu Kingdom of Ifon Osun, my hometown. I grew up in Lagos to my very early 20s, though my first 7 years were elsewhere. And I travel the world to educate myself instead of ignorantly thinking Nigeria is the world.

And yes, there are very lovely men in Nigeria. My wonderful amazing loving father who rests in peace was one. He didn't have to take care of my mother however, because she is a very powerful woman who can take care of herself, so they put their resources together to take care and bring up very powerful children like me who don't need to beg anyone for anything because we can get off our asses and sweat from our own brows for what we want.

So when you say what you think a Nigerian man means when he says "street", it is what Nigerian man you says, and not what every Nigerian man says. And nor does every Nigerian man or woman "go back to the dating pool, which comes with "whoring", because some actually stay married all their lives without whoring.

In my hometown we say, n'kan ti ẹyẹ ba gbe jẹ ni gbe fo. Translated is, 'what the bird swallows is what it flies with'. It means, you do what you are taught. If you are taught to "go back to the dating pool, which comes with "whoring", then that's what you will do. And if you are taught to respect your partner and treat them with love and regard and respect, you'd do that.

Now yes, there are lots of "women out there doing very well for themselves and are still single craving and begging for a man". And unfortunately, this thread shows why. Lots of you are immature boys who are very not worth having, so doing well women stay single and would rather do without. We can after all extract the only thing of value some of you have and kick you out once we are pregnant, which is really what many doing well women settle for without adding you to their baggage.

If you do have value, and I don't mean in your pants or your wallet, but in your heart and in your brain, a sensible woman would never let you go, and would likely treat you like a king. But without value, be lucky if you are ordered for the night, here's money for taxi when I'm done with you, please get out!

Seriously, I feel for you boys. The world is changing fast around you but you want to live in 1826 instead of upping your game so you have value in 2026! It's sad!
RomanceRe: France Moves To Abolish Concept Of Marital Duty To Have Sex by budaatum: 9:39am On Jan 31
drsibz66:
I think you have male children too and your sons will marry and hope you would be happy to accept anything too you accepted for other men to also happen to you son. Ie loosing all his life work to a woman after divorce, continue to cater and pay child support to kids his wife got from cheating on him.
You are funny.

Yes, I have sons. And I have educated them to respect and love their wives, whom they have wisely chosen. And the one thing they will never ever say is "You just another woman", because I brought them up to be loving and caring and respectful of other human beings regardless of gender, race, colour, tribe etc etc etc, so its unlikely their wives will wake up one day and yell rape and divorce.

But if they do divorce, they very likely wouldn't lose all their life work because their wives have jobs too, and earn considerable incomes. And the law where they live might even give the children to my sons and tell her to pay him instead.

Unlike some you see, they married their equal, and not some poor uneducated girl from some village that they can exploit.
RomanceRe: France Moves To Abolish Concept Of Marital Duty To Have Sex by budaatum: 9:26am On Jan 31
Murketeer:
I wonder what wud even make any man to even have the idea of sleeping with a woman in the UK … when there’s this constant unsettling fear in your mind that you could actually be accused of Rape the next morning…
Seriously? How about he loves her and she loves him and they both want to sleep with one another to express their love for each other?

Or do you think people who love one another fear being accused of rape in the morning?

Dude please! Would you say I love you if I fuq you whenever I want to and even if you are not in the mood?
RomanceRe: France Moves To Abolish Concept Of Marital Duty To Have Sex by budaatum: 9:19am On Jan 31
Murketeer:
I have gone through the link …
Good for you. Did you go through my own posts to see my own opinion on the matter?

Go on. Show me you can. Read my own opinion and then quote me when you are done, because it just might happen that you might be the amazing wonderful caring considerate African man that I can not ever resist being made love to night and day and twice in the afternoon.
RomanceRe: France Moves To Abolish Concept Of Marital Duty To Have Sex by budaatum: 9:15am On Jan 31
lailo:
Marriage is not a competition. It is an organisation with structure.
That "organisation with structure" you mention was a human, man specifically, organised structure. And those men didn't even bother consulting the women whom they structured to not even educate.

But time has passed, and the world and the structure has evolved so that women go to school to learn to organise the structure so you men can't so easily oppress us anymore.

So I suggest you evolve into the new organised structure or go and get an uneducated girl from your village that you can oppress. I'm not her.

And please, if and when you do marry and happen to have daughters, I beg you not to organise to structure them to think they must be bed slaves to any man, because she deserves better, and you deserve better from your empowered children.

RomanceRe: France Moves To Abolish Concept Of Marital Duty To Have Sex by budaatum: 9:05am On Jan 31
Peterlove11:
Without the Bible, there current civilization won't exist.
If they hadn't evolved, they surely would have died, or at least be like some third world country that places a low value on half its population.

For your information in case you don't know. When Europe were exporting their Bible to Africa, they were abandoning ignorant beliefs and were advancing into the knowledgeable age of enlightenment, and it pains me to see that some are still in the darkness they promoted to you.
RomanceRe: France Moves To Abolish Concept Of Marital Duty To Have Sex by budaatum: 8:56am On Jan 31
Kukutente23:
If you assume qualities and also dismiss them based on Internet conversations then the fault lies with your ability to make sound, reasonable judgement and not the African man.

And to reduce a proportional retort for an insult to all African men including your own dear father to ego only shows you have not grown beyond the obscenely manipulative tendencies of the average feminist that has led to such a high failure rate in marriages and attendant social consequences
So you now have stooped so low that you have to insult my loving caring considerate African father who treated my amazing wonderful loving African mother like the queen she is, and is the sort of man I thought you might be?

I guess you now can see why you had to be interviewed and assessed so I don't marry a regret and have to divorce you!

Or don't you think your words reveal your mind?

Should I think you can treat me as I deserve when you insult my father?

RomanceRe: France Moves To Abolish Concept Of Marital Duty To Have Sex by budaatum: 8:45am On Jan 31
zagorakis:
If you have made the wrong choice in a partner, you have to bear the consequences of your wrong choice, or you divorce him and go back to the street.
I agree. Though. I don't need to go to a street since I have my own home and can go back to it.

zagorakis:
But if you chose to stay in that marriage, and the man is trying in his fundamental roles as a man (providing, feeding, clothing, protection)you must be giving the man his conjugal rights (as far as Nigeria is concerned) otherwise you go to France, ofcourse, that as well comes with consequences.
Why will I "choose to stay in that marriage" when I am educated enough to provide for myself and feed myself and clothe myself and protect myself and even go out there to get a man who respects me and treats me so well that conjugal is not a right but a thing we lovingly enjoy together anywhere in the world?

Is it that you think women must come from the street, or that there are no loving caring men in Nigeria?
RomanceRe: France Moves To Abolish Concept Of Marital Duty To Have Sex by budaatum: 8:38am On Jan 31
Peterlove11:
The founding fathers of western nations that promoted Human rights were Christians, infact the current civilization and laws promoted by the west were based on the Bible.
And see how western nations are amazingly evolving to now give women rights and power instead of sticking to Biblical ignorance that claims woman is man's rib that should submit and be silent.

It's called, progress.
RomanceRe: France Moves To Abolish Concept Of Marital Duty To Have Sex by budaatum: 8:31am On Jan 31
neonly:
Am very sure u were raised by a single mother
Did you kill my wonderful father who raised me with my amazing mother?
RomanceRe: France Moves To Abolish Concept Of Marital Duty To Have Sex by budaatum: 8:29am On Jan 31
drsibz66:
Does that change the fact on ground that you worship every thing white..? No.
You don't know what I worship, and are just making crap up to believe, which shows one shouldn't bother what you think.

Come back to me when you've bothered to do some basic research about me please.
RomanceRe: France Moves To Abolish Concept Of Marital Duty To Have Sex by budaatum: 8:26am On Jan 31
Luckysbab:
So a man should be denied the right to ask for a divorce from a wife who denied him conjugal relationship for years?
Why? Did you read me write somewhere that you must stay stuck to a partner that doesn't satisfy you?

Read my numerous posts in the thread. Your question has already been answered.
RomanceRe: France Moves To Abolish Concept Of Marital Duty To Have Sex by budaatum: 6:57am On Jan 31
drsibz66:
Dont mind her , they think every thing western is right and every thing african is wrong.. some africans are like that, they worship any thing the white man say, like religious addicts and their pastors
You are the one who should not be minded since you are obviously far too lazy to read. Because if you were not lazy to read, you'd know I know the person you are telling not to mind is an African man when I was cooking him that African meal he loves so much and was marrying him and worshipping his African bit before he began grunting like a pig I can not stand!
RomanceRe: France Moves To Abolish Concept Of Marital Duty To Have Sex by budaatum: 6:45am On Jan 31
Host78:
So you would rather cheat on your spouse Just to be able to divorce her and face harsher consequences or have a law that actually makes room for you to divorce her based on the actual problem?

This una wokeness dey irritate me cry
You are the one being stupid in thinking you can't just walk away from a relationship you don't want, and I am giving you extreme cause for walking away if you can not find simpler reasons to walk away.

If they seem to extreme for you, just walk away and pay the cost, instead of limiting yourself unto believing her not letting you fuq is you only reason.

And note. I don't give a flying fuq what irritates you. You and your opinion is irrelevant.

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