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benalvino3:
Some locker rooms has naked females changing and all that. I don't think it will make sense to have naked men in the same locker room. Toilets are the same case. If person is likely to be raped or groped in a public building, it will likely be in the toilet.

That's your own opinion, likely based on you thinking men are rapists. Most men are not rapists, and wouldn't jump on a woman just because she is naked.

You are a man, Ben, but I can bet you wouldn't rape a woman because you find her to be naked, but you are very welcome to argue how wrong I am if just to see me argue you wouldn't !

raumdeuter:
I did not imply that, you misinterpreted it as that

Every team did 1st leg Men, 2nd leg women, 3rd leg women and 4th leg men
All 3rd legs were run by women except the Nigerian team who switched things around they had a man run the 3rd leg and a woman run the 4th leg. All the advantage the man got in the 3rd leg was lost in the 4th leg by the woman

This was what I wrote

It sounded like you wete claimimg it was an all womans race and only Nigeria had a man. In the mixed swimming relay, each team gets to decide which gender swims when, which is what I expect happened in the 4x400 mixed relay too.

If your point is that men run faster than women, all I can say is doh, as the 400 metre record for men is 43.03 seconds and 47.60 seconds for women. For 100m freestyle swimming, its 51.71s for women, and 46.91s for men.

It would be ridiculous when a man dresses as a woman and runs 400m in 43.03 seconds or swims 100m in 46.91s. I can assure you that women would be up in arms when that gets accepted.

benalvino3:
The point is men have a biological advantage over women. Being a transwoman does not make you a woman

I'm not arguing that fact with you, Ben, and I feel the entire world would realise that soon enough especially when women stand up and boycott competing against men dressed as women.

I do not however object to male and female toilets, as I myself go into whichever is more free whenever I am pressed and can not wait. As for prisons, good for the women to have a man to rape for a change, as one single man can't rape them all and he beats a Love Machine.

benalvino3:
BLM pushes anti white narrative and even a wall gecko knows this

That's why their leaders do not buy houses in predominant white suburb, right? After all, they can not possibly live amongst those you claim they are pushing an "anti white narrative" against, and its not as if there's any white people in BLM!

musicwriter:
There are many better creation myths around the world and Christians and Muslims don't even know.

They don't know because they believe what they are told, and refuse to use their own senses to ask and knock and seek in order to understand and know, which is precisely the lesson of the myth where Eve disbelieved and sought to check for herself, except most rather believe the lie that people who they read lived into the 900s surely died on the day that they acquired knowledge.

Thankfully, this thread shows that atheism to such silly beliefs increases by the day, as people can not forever deny what they see with their own eyes.

Many would become as a child, and then Emancipate Themself From The Slavery Of Ignorance! Amen!

That bloody Bottas!

raumdeuter:
This is the youtube.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1Q4n2UQD9k&t=19s


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYE8NP75wcA

If you are not able to view it, search for this in youtube "U.S. DQ'd from 4x400m mixed relay - or were they? | Tokyo Olympics | NBC Sports"

It was an official mixed relay, and not that Nigeria sneaked a man into a womans competition as you implied!

It was the same as the mixed swimming relay. And you just need check the different times for men and women to know which should be faster.

benalvino3:
I know what it means which is why I said reading one paragraph does not mean you have read the writeup ...

Ben, I specifically said I did not read the writeup! I stopped reading as soon as I got to the generalised statement,"The black community doesn't really think", as it showed a lack of thought!

benalvino3:
Anti white narrative or movement is something many fringe group pushes. BLM pushes anti white narrative, they have a leader.

I guess that's why a BLM leader would not buy a multi million dollar house in a predominantly white suburb right? But I kind of have a feeling you'd post that she did, which ought to show your "anti white" narrative is false, though you'd likely come up with a different interpretation of the evidence you would likely provide.

Enugurangers:
Have you thought that this theory could be applied to the MAGA movement led by the supreme leader, Donald Trump?

Did you read the book with an unbiased mind? i.e. to detach your leaning from the book so as to digest the content with an unbiased view.

That would require objectivity, which was lacking and is why my interest waned in reading further.

raumdeuter:
Then what will become of women sports or are they trying to cancel females in Sports too?

Did you see the 4x400 mixed race where the Nigerian team used a man for the 3rd leg vs women and he gapped them, by the time he handed over to a woman in the last leg, all the gap evaporated and she ended last

No I did not see it. And I don't see how Nigeria can officially use a man in place of a woman in an internationally recognised competition and not be disqualified. Post reference for this please.

I saw the mixed swimming relay where the men swam faster than women as is expected, however.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBQVPWJJs4I

benalvino3:
contradiction then. that's not what waned means.

even if generalization is what makes you not to continue reading, it only shows weakness on your side.

Waned means reduced, which is what happened to my interest. And your opinion of me does not concern me one tiny bit.

benalvino3:
Just a proof that you didn't read it ...

"My interest waned in reading" means I did not bother to read it, Ben.

Personally, I can't wait for trans women to start winning all women's sports, then the absurdity of allowing those who changed gender to compete as women would become obvious.

benalvino3:
The black community doesn't really think...

This sort of generalised statement is enough for my interest to wane in reading what you wrote since it wrongly assumes all black people think the same, despite the fact that if we check on here we'd find you arguing there are blacks on the right too.

Below is two pieces of good news. First is transgendered Hubbard failed to beat women, the second is how confused the IOC is.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/58054891

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/jul/30/ioc-admits-guidelines-for-transgender-athletes-are-not-fit-for-purpose

We are individuals, Ben, as you'd find a few pages back when the left turned on the left.

They need salvation from themselves!
https://www.newstatesman.com/science-tech/internet/2017/02/reddit-the-red-pill-interview-how-misogyny-spreads-online

That's why Satan (the first and real Christ) saved humanity from perfection/stagnation in the garden of Eden because Adam and Eve were perfectly in the state of stagnation and ignorance.

''I am the way, the truth and life. No one cometh to the father except by me''- Horus 5,000 years before Jesus.
https://www.africason.com/2021/07/what-is-satan.html?m=1

People fail to understand why it is written that, "Out of Egypt I called my Son", and would resist being freed from their own mental slavery which can only be cured by eating the fruits of the tree of knowledge which has roots in Egypt which is now presented to us as a Greco-Roman idea!

Once people learn to use their own senses like Eve is written to have, they'll accept that Eve did not surely die, and their eyes will indeed open too.

BassReeves:
Respect yourself, and God would respect you.

Why are you assuming to command what I should or not do and give "friendly advice and brotherly warning" ? Do you understand it is patronising, and that you are talking to buda who would not obey the command to not eat the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, much less you?

Let me know when I disrespect you and I would apologise. God knows to get off God's godly ass to advice and warn buda if God so pleases, and God would punish buda and not you for buda's disrespect if God so wishes, and if God wanted it to be any other way with buda, God would have created buda as a mindless sheep and made you buda's shepherd, which I do not think is the case, so mind your business when it comes to my relationship with God please, because you are not the mouthpiece of God for buda who insists on not having intermediaries between me and my God who created buda from mud and breathed God's self into buda!

And yes, this is buda now being very emotional, in case you do not notice. You'd see why below.

BassReeves:
budaatum, 'hermeneutics and epistemological breakdown', actually means 'a complete deconstruction in every way possible'.

To you perhaps, but not to me.

Along with the two ways you mention above, I can deconstruct it mythically, gnostically, literally, mystically, fundamentally, fruitably, empoweringly, and in many other ways, and I'd still accept my limitations and say its not fully broken down. Some after all include deadly and afraidly, and emotionally, and stupidly, and atheistically and slavely and dominately and submisively and such like in their own deconstructions, lol.

Do see the following. Some words mean a lot.

BassReeves:
This certainly happened. On the day Eve ate the fruit of the TKGE she started the journey to surely die.

I guess the Bible writers did not know to write "started the journey to surely die", instead of "on the day that you eat you shall surely die".

I wonder what grade such thinking would give one in O'Level English comprehension.

BassReeves:
Just stay in your lane budaatum, dont be jealousy of another man's anointing.

Here you go again commanding buda! And no, this is not the why.

buda does not stay in lanes nor is buda jealous of another's anointing, which is precisely why buda would go up the mountain to get buda's own anointing, because with my own anointing in my hands I can't possibly be jealous of the anointing of some other, unless you want to claim buda greedily wants to add someone else's anointing to my own.

BassReeves:
budaatum, please provide a list of evidence(s) of how Jesus perverted or was perverting what is written in the bible.

I can not provide any such list because Jesus, like myself, was not "perverting what is written in the bible", and was falsely accused just as I'm claimimg you falsely accuse me.

What's odd is I could claim you are the one perverting what you clearly read written in the Bible when you decide to distort "on the day that you eat" to become, "started the journey to surely die" like some slow death that takes 800 or so years.

I "could", also because of your misunderstanding that made you ask the question above and the one below - both which are based on a perversion and distortion of what I wrote and meant, and is the why!

BassReeves:
So you want to put the blame upon God now, are you? Are you trying to say its God's fault Adam and Eve ate the fruit they were explicitly told not to eat?

Only a distortion of what I wrote would make you accuse me of such a claim, to wit I say, I am not discussing God with you but the content of a book we both have read which is not God!

We'd get to God at some point, no doubt, and It would be interesting to read your view on how God who said unto them, "Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth", expected them to do so while kept ignorant in the Garden of Eden afraid that they would surely die if they dared to learn how to do what God had initially commanded them to do before seemingly changing mind and enslaving them!

You'd find that nations that are doing the above and that send people to Mars and Jupiter and Uranus and that have electricity and create employment for their citizens, eat the fruits of knowledge more than nations that don't. Those nations too used to be anti-eat the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil until they saw the Light, which we too will someday see once mud is rubbed in our eyes and after we have bathed in the Pool of Siloam.

I read all of what you wrote, note, just that the above is more pressing as far as I am cincerned.

Bassreeves, I told you the time is coming when we shall become able to critically analyse the Biblical creation myth without beliefs blinding us from so doing.

musicwriter:
So is the creation story in the bible book of Genesis. We all have read how a God created Adam and Eve and they lived peacefully in the garden of Eden where Satan deceived Eve.

Lived as ignorant naked slaves more like, until use her own senses Eve decided to critically analyse what Adam believed, only to find she did not surely die on the day that she ate of the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, since knowledge does not kill.

Instead, her eyes opened; she and Adam were freed from slavery and became self employed on their own land where they lived for 800 or so years during which they went on to populate the earth with billions of human beings, some of whom are today on the way to rule over Mars and Jupiter and Uranus!
https://www.nairaland.com/6389881/god-dead-god-alive-praise/2#102483429

That last bit, however, music, "where Satan deceived Eve". Who was deceiving whom in that story? Did Eve die, or did her eyes open as the serpent said they would?

Thanks Hell for bringing my attention to this thread.

Amazing how some threads unexpectedly get dragged back up.

I bought myself a new laptop today. Took 12 months to decide what to get then time ran out on me as my Samsung packed up. Now just need to work on replacing my phone before that packs up too.

As for Heidegger, I'm only on 6! That dude invented new words and expressions that require effort to get head around so its read book then listen like 4-5 times. I'm obsessing, of course, and it's a good read for walking.

FOLYKAZE:
Woman, I no get time for your back and forth game. You may save the rabble rouser for the next guy.

My womanhood too much for you as usual? How is it relevant here, or are you just being your usual beast?

See you again presenting a book you say is discredited!

FOLYKAZE:
No wonder Muttley and Reed dey woze you.

Explain what the point of the following was You did repeatedly present it when asked for evidence of your claim!

FOLYKAZE:
I am disappointed in you Budda. You have a lot to read please.

Take sometimes off here
http://penelope.uchicago.edu/josephus/ant-20.html
An excerpt from that page

And mind your glasshouse when throwing stones.

oaroloye:
How can one hate others, when one wants Mercy from God?

If you hate others, no matter the provocation or offense, you cannot have Mercy from God.

The person who wrote the above does not hate atheists.

True or False?

edi287:
Look, there's nothing you or anyone will say that will make regret or feel sorry for anything I've said/done to that cockroach.

Can you imagine, lol!

FOLYKAZE:
What are you smoking? Me? Where? Presented Antiquities as evidence or I was stamping down Testimonium as forged document?

That wrap no good for your body. Causes some amnesia

If you had bothered to read what you sourced, you'd have realised you were presenting Antiquities as evidence. It's either that or you were writing incoherently!

FOLYKAZE:
That question should be directed to Eusebius who invoked the ' discredited' Testimonium Flavianum of Josephus antiquity to prove the existence of historical Jesus.

Unknown to him and the church, Josephus was only referring to Jesus ben Damneus the high-priest whose brother - James the Just was reportedly killed by Ananus ben Ananus.

It however came out that what Origen, Eusebius, and church fathers hold to their chest as a secular evidence of historical Jesus is forgery.

Historically, James existed and his brother who was elected as high priest is Jesus Damneus, not Jesus christ.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_son_of_Damneus

Regardless, note that the conversation has moved on from where you are stuck. Sorry if I don't let you hold us back from evolving.

BassReeves:
budaatum rein in the emotions please.

I think you should refrain from the condescending insults please. We've done well so far considering.

BassReeves:
It was not the hour for Eve to pluck the fruit of the TKGE to eat. Period.

One could argue it was the time, since God must have known she would and did nothing to prevent her.

BassReeves:
Eve believed, Cain believed. Uzzah believed. Nadab and Abihu, believed. I can go on with others who believed. The road to hell is paved with good intentions of Christians believe

Eve believed she would surely die on the day she ate of the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil? So what you saying? Was she trying to commit suicide when she ate what you claim she believed would kill her, or are you saying she believed the serpent who told her she would not die, her eyes would open and she would become like Gods?

As for Nabab and Ahibu and co, Read here what buda said when the "Lord said to Moses, “Come up to the Lord, you and Aaron, Nadab and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel. You are to worship at a distance, but Moses alone is to approach the Lord; the others must not come near. And the people may not come up with him”.

BassReeves:
With the utmost respect and humility dare I say you're perverting the word of God

First, we are discussing a book written by humans, and not a book written by God.

Second, if you critically go through the Gospels I bet you'd accuse Christ too of perverting what is written in the book. Many did, so I'd claim to stand in the best company ever and accept your compliment. Thanks.

BassReeves:
budaatum, please why not give a thorough biblical hermeneutics and epistemological breakdown of individually what 'Good', 'Evil' and even as a whole, the 'Tree' itself, symbolises in the Tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil framework

I would love to, and odd enough, though you don't seem to have realised it yet, that is precisely what you and I and some others began doing in our first engagement. Unfortunately people whom I believe would competently be able to do this with me (I can't do it alone), are stuck in not even being able to accept what they read with their very own eyes, which is that Eve, and Adam, did not surely die on the day that they ate the fruit they'd been told would kill them on the day that they ate it. Instead, their eyes opened, they became self employed and they populated the earth with billions of people (at least they did if you submit to them being the first humans), some of whom today are on the way to Mars and Uranus, as in, not only ruling over the earth but over faraway planets too.

Do know that I impatiently await the day when we Nigerians shall critically analyse "'Good', 'Evil' and even as a whole, the 'Tree' itself, symbolises in the Tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil framework", and not only a "hermeneutics and epistemological breakdown", but a complete deconstruction in every way possible, because, nations that do this go on to achieve greater things than mere believers do. First, however, is an acceptance of that which we see with our eyes, as opposed to that which we have convinced ourselves to believe in our minds, because, our beliefs is what you are asking us to analyse, and Christ did say its as difficult to become as a child who has abandoned their beliefs, as a camel going through the needle's eye.

BassReeves:
To what end is having knowledge, if it is used inappropriately?

This is a scary statement, and you really must consider how and why slaves in America were kept ignorant to see how your opinion above has already been used. Also, study how almanjeris are created. Both show who benefits, and is a strategy used by the Roman Catholic Church until a certain Luther freed us from their tyranny.

If you fear you would use knowledge inappropriately, you might convince yourself to remain without knowledge. Scarier still is if you fear some others might inappropriately use knowledge, you are likely to keep them ignorant! Then there's the case of What is inappropriate use of knowledge? And inappropriate to whom?

BassReeves:
Makes you wonder and appreciate that knowledge that can make miracles happen needs to be guarded carefully, as if it falls into the wrong hands, miracles become disasters in no time.

Imagine if Jesus reasoned as you have here. No way would he have asked if you know not you are gods because he couldn't have possibly have expected you to know, and he definitely would never have told you you'd do greater things than he did, which would definitely require knowledge.

Bass, the issue with most is they parrot what they've been told to believe and either don't know they do so or just refuse to admit that is what they do, or they'd find it hard to convince themself that people who they read went on to live for some 800 years after, died on the day that they ate that which would supposedly kill them on the day that they ate it.

Christ is the Light of the World. As in that which gives you understanding of the world. If one misunderstands what he taught (and what one reads) one would remain in darkness, which is ignorance.

FOLYKAZE:
That was an oversight. Never really look into the content on the page. Was really concern on the fact that Jesus ben Damneus was a high priest of the Herodian second temple.

Just as you admitted to have never read the books you presented as evidence for you claim!

Isn't that like arguing blindly?

FOLYKAZE:
It's so disappointing that I trusted you will see the inconsistencies in the Testimonium Flavianum by reading a little more. But please for the sake of those following this thread, I will point out the inconsistencies.

Before pointing out the inconsistencies in the Testimonium Flavianum, please tell me why you repeatedly presented the Testimonium Flavianum as evidence!

FOLYKAZE:
That question was thrown at you to help you see the illogical submission that the Jesus mentioned an Antiquities XX is Jesus of Nazareth. I had thought you and BassReeves will easily identify the inconsistencies in the Testimonium, and that the original form of the passage can never be gotten again.

Foly, you presented Antiquities as evidence, and you claim same it isn't reliable evidence.

Do you need me to argue it isn't reliable evidence when the question is, why did you present what you know is unreliable evidence?

Workch:
i was hoping to see a testable evidence for god but I didn’t see any

Funny. Should you not have first asked what Gods are?

Still, I hope someone informed you that [url=https://classic.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+1%3A18&version=KJV]No man hath seen God at any time[/url], the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

I also hope anyone attempting to provide what you've requested is [url=https://classic.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy+5%3A8&version=KJV]aware of the commandment they've broken[/url]. An image, afterall, is what you are requesting.

Goodvibes007:
You can see how your fans reacted to your post..
Your intent was malicious hence the pic. Stop forming Mr Holy on this thread when you are evil in nature.

I called out you childishness. Grow up!

Goodvibes007:
This guy is a serpent.

Call me what you want vibes. Unlike you who can't resist joining pigs in the gutter its water off the back of a duck.