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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 7:15pm On Jul 19, 2021

benalvino3:
Critical Race Theory believes that white people won't do anything that might benefit black people unless it is in white people's best interest and helps them maintain power.

Does this make sense?
I fail to see the logic in this. Maybe someone can explain it.

You fail to see the logic in the nonsense of a theory you claim believes. And I would understand your failure if you'd never been to UK.

Ben, did the white people do things for you because it benefits you or was in their interest?

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 7:08pm On Jul 19, 2021

sanpipita:
Read and laugh

https://www.dailydot.com/debug/freedom-phone-security-issues/

Fools and money.
https://uk.pcmag.com/mobile-phones/134545/the-freedom-phone-smells-like-a-stupid-cynical-grift

Christianity Etc › Re: Real Reason Behind Sack Of 40 Pastors By Oyedepo by budaatum: 6:43pm On Jul 19, 2021

So, they are separating the chaff from the wheat after massive expansion just as any sensible business must.

Christianity Etc › Re: Don't Take Covid-19 Vaccine by budaatum: 6:09pm On Jul 19, 2021*

Ops. Too late.

budaatum:
I had my second jab on May 24 and my first jab was on March 19, and no symptoms whatsoever yet, but I will let you know if that changes.

Celebrities › Re: Two Lesbian Couples Legally Gets Married by budaatum: 6:02pm On Jul 19, 2021

Men would be jealous.

Business › Re: Meet The Female Banks CEOs In Nigeria by budaatum: 5:32pm On Jul 19, 2021

tunwumi:
I think this is a bad dream. Please wake up. ��

Why "wake up"? Does my dream not trump reality?

Let me sleep jo! Who say dreams can't come true?

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Real Name Of The Islamic God? by budaatum: 4:31pm On Jul 19, 2021*

shadeyinka:
So, the next question:
Is a Belief always devoid of Knowledge/Knowing?

An expressed or believed belief can be devoid of knowledge or based on knowledge.

I can believe I have a million pounds in my bank account whether I have a million pounds or not, but I'm certain to meet some resistance when I try to buy a real spanking brand new red ferrari with the million pounds I believe I have. And so I'd call up my bank for my credit, and the bank would tell me how much I have in my account with them so I stop believing what I now know. And when I stand in front of the Ferrari salesperson, I can say what I know with the authority that the bank will back me up or not as would actually be the case.

Fact is, the believer knows if they have checked or are just stating what it is that they believe, and if it is what they believe, they should know they ought to ask and knock and seek to know instead of mere believing and lying that it is based on some knowledge they deep down know they lack.

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Real Name Of The Islamic God? by budaatum: 4:07pm On Jul 19, 2021

shadeyinka:
Knowledge and Knowing is BOTH information and experience.
The Logos is information,
The Relationship brings experience

Neither the Logos nor the Experience can be done away with.

The Logos is information, to those who must believe, but to those who seek understanding, the Logos is quite a lot more.

https://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Logos

https://www.rep.routledge.com/articles/thematic/logos/v-1

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Real Name Of The Islamic God? by budaatum: 3:59pm On Jul 19, 2021

shadeyinka:
Thanks for clearing that impression about knowledge.
If there are things we agree about with respect to knowledge are:
1. Knowledge/Knowing isn't absolute wrt humans
2. Knowledge/Knowing is not perfect
3. Knowledge is to be continually sought after till we leave this world
4. Knowledge make a person wise.
5. Knowledge is a sum of information and experience we have

If these above are all correct about knowledge, there is a question that need be asked.
1. Can a knowledge/knowing be wrong?

Yes, "a knowledge/knowing and knower, I dare add, can be very wrong". We see this replete in history. At one point a dome was over the earth until it wasn't. At some point the sun and stars revolved around the supreme earth until humans knew their place. There are still some who think they can fall off the edge of earth, and many who pray for manna from heaven or think trump won the last election. Some even wrongly think eating fruits of knowledge would kill them even though Adam and Eve lived. There's all sorts out there, Shade, as we can clearly obviously see.

Most, if not all the above, are "wrong knowings", or at least would be considered to be wrong by most sane sense using humans. I myself can be wrong numerous times during the day. An example is that I'm sitting in the living room wondering if I shut the fridge, which I of course did, I say to myself to avoid getting off my ass to go check.

But I now have gotten off my ass and gone to check and can assure you as a knower who has the correct knowing that the fridge was indeed closed which I indeed knew because I always double check the fridge is closed when I shut the fridge because I know I must always check the fridge is shut when I close the fridge because I have found I have in the past known I closed the fridge that I have found to be open, as in unclosed.

Its like an OCD for knowledge, except its for understanding. Imagine some spirit thingy leaving my fridge open.

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Real Name Of The Islamic God? by budaatum: 3:55pm On Jul 19, 2021

shadeyinka:
There is no problem with using our God given mind to reason. A complete human being should ALSO use his soundness of reason to comprehend, judge and discern both physical and non physical information before him

But because our understanding can sometimes be faulty, it is NOT the final umpire of right or wrong
Prov 3:5-6
5 Trust in the LORD with all your heart, and lean not on your own understanding; 6 in all your ways acknowledge Him, and He will make your paths straight.

All well and good if you are starting out in life, but rather impractical after many years of seek and ask and knock with one's own heart and soul and mind and being sharpened by God.

At some point, the Kingdom of God must stop coming at you from a book because the Kingdom of God is from within making your path straight.

How else can you possibly be perfect like your Father in Heaven if you do not let the Knowledge of God build your mind?

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Real Name Of The Islamic God? by budaatum: 3:37pm On Jul 19, 2021

budaatum:
No one is claiming knowledge is absolute! If it was, the earth would still have been created in 6 days in 4004BC! And a superseeded theory is not the same as knowledge or relative knowledge that you claim is between a two year old and a maths professor! A superseeded theory is not knowledge anymore, the clue being in the word superseeded, as in, it has been discovered to be ignorance which we wrongly thought or believed was knowledge.

Consider Plato's Cave. We may claim the ignorance of those in the cave is relative to their lack of knowledge or their knowledge is relative to the cave they are in. But we would not say their ignorance, or knowledge, is relative to the total knowledge that can possibly be had, and compared to the knowledge that can be had, we would say those in the cave are ignorant.

Consider also the parable of the blind men and an elephant. It is the flipside of claiming to have absolute knowledge, as in, having incomplete knowledge, which is not 'relative knowledge', but plain ignorance.

You are seeing knowledge as some subjective thing where incomplete knowledge of 2+2 can equal 3, but knowledge is not subjective like that, which is why you'd fail an exam if you give 3 as the answer to 2+2. And if you use such subjective knowledge to build a house it will be as one built on sand.

Shade. This is the fourth or fifth time we would tackle this. I put it to you that if knowledge is relative, then Allah is God, Yahweh is God, Ogun is God, Sango is God, Shadeyinka is God, and the stone on the floor outside my door is God, since we can always find people whom those statements are all relative to. Do you agree?

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Real Name Of The Islamic God? by budaatum: 3:22pm On Jul 19, 2021

shadeyinka:
I think you have treated in our discussions the subject of knowing/knowledge as absolute (i.e. once you know, your knowledge is perfect)

I have treated nothing of the sort in the manner you have fashioned for yourself here, that "once you know your knowledge is perfect", and I am in fact troubled that you can misrepresent me so, though surprised not since you have shown a tendency for seeing the living as dead and black as white. But see as you make stuff up to believe instead of accepting what you see with your own eyes! Know that I see it.

I have in fact forever maintained the exact opposite, that once you believe you know you will stop learning. That, after all, is why I insist one must continue to eat the fruits of knowledge instead of fearing more knowledge kills. Even Christ said [url=https://classic.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark+13%3A33&version=KJV]continue learning[/url]!

budaatum:
No one is claiming knowledge is absolute! If it was, the earth would still have been created in 6 days in 4004BC! And a superseeded theory is not the same as knowledge or relative knowledge that you claim is between a two year old and a maths professor! A superseeded theory is not knowledge anymore, the clue being in the word superseeded, as in, it has been discovered to be ignorance which we wrongly thought or believed was knowledge.

Consider Plato's Cave. We may claim the ignorance of those in the cave is relative to their lack of knowledge or their knowledge is relative to the cave they are in. But we would not say their ignorance, or knowledge, is relative to the total knowledge that can possibly be had, and compared to the knowledge that can be had, we would say those in the cave are ignorant.

Consider also the parable of the blind men and an elephant. It is the flipside of claiming to have absolute knowledge, as in, having incomplete knowledge, which is not 'relative knowledge', but plain ignorance.

You are seeing knowledge as some subjective thing where incomplete knowledge of 2+2 can equal 3, but knowledge is not subjective like that, which is why you'd fail an exam if you give 3 as the answer to 2+2. And if you use such subjective knowledge to build a house it will be as one built on sand.

Shade. This is the fourth or fifth time we would tackle this. I put it to you that if knowledge is relative, then Allah is God, Yahweh is God, Ogun is God, Sango is God, Shadeyinka is God, and the stone on the floor outside my door is God, since we can always find people whom those statements are all relative to. Do you agree?

One must consider refraining from continously bearing false witness to oneself because it can not be wise to so do.

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Real Name Of The Islamic God? by budaatum: 2:10pm On Jul 19, 2021

shadeyinka:
I judge all things through the lens of the logos.

I judge all things by what I witness and the power developed by using my mind to comprehend.

shadeyinka:
I know that spiritual communications is not only from God but from Self, from Demons and from the World. Spiritual communications are many times presented as parables, I need to be able to discern to filter off noises and deceptions from God's words.

The only way is through the scriptures!

So, only through Scripture, and not a burning bush, nor as a pillar of cloud by day, and as a pillar of fire by night; or as a "whisper" to Elijah and in visions to other prophets, nor to King Solomon in a "dream", promising to grant what he asked; and I guess Jacob wrestled not with the Face of God all night at Peniel, nor through Jesus Christ himself nor the Holy Spirit sent to guide us? And when I accuse you of book worship, thou doth protest so much.

Scripture, along with all the things before your eyes that have been created by the Word, and most especially one's neighbours and the world that one sees before oneself, and not by the bread alone!

shadeyinka:
2Cor 11:14:
"And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light."

Not every light is "The Light"!

By their fruits, Shade. The fruits that the lights produce. The criteria for wheat and chaff. That's how to distinguish light from The Light.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did God Stop Man From Living For Ever? by budaatum: 1:30pm On Jul 19, 2021*

One of the most ignored teachings of Christ is how he removed "book worship" from his teachings and emphasised your neighbours and your enemies also. I guess it would have been odd, if he were written to have said, "for whosoever loves their neighbours and their enemies even more so shall not perish but will eternally be remembered". Some nations build monuments to such people.

shadeyinka:
A constitution is binding just as the scriptures is binding to those who subscribe to its authority. Chaos results when you claim you subscribe to the authority of the scriptures YET reject some verses which doesn't go according to your whims.

"These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens", shows us that society must have developed for one persona to corner the eastward in Eden. And that persona would have needed workers, hence, "the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul", which is easily believed after being enslaved for a few hundreds of years.

Constitution/Law One
And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

Constitution/Law Two
And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

That is the extent of the 'constitution' during the time of Adam, and we can see for ourselves that constitutions are not binding, Shade, as Eve was obviously not bound and most humans are lazy fuqs!

The law is made for humans by humans, and not humans for the crap some make up in their own head they order others to bow down and worship when you strike up your band, yet one recognises many will bow down and worship when you strike your band for there obviously are many lawbreakers and rebels who must be bound.

Matthew 5 is good Gospel to read Christ reject whims which don't go according to verses or vice versa.

I guess its a matter of 'who are we'. Verses or whims, wheat or chaff, bound or unbounded. Those climbing mountains do not yet see top view, and we all know how far we have climbed, but I would suggest that those who still fear that they shall surely die in the day that they eat do not yet know there's a mountain.

Sports › Re: Tour De France by budaatum(op): 11:08am On Jul 19, 2021

Instead of the record-breaking 35th stage victory for Cavendish then, it was Van Aert who added to his Ventoux and time trial wins, just ahead of Philipsen, who finished second for the third time this Tour.

"This Tour has just been amazing, such a rollercoaster," Van Aert said after the finish. "To finish off with a weekend like this is beyond expectations. A victory like this is priceless. Thanks to my incredible small team, especially Mike Teunissen who delivered me into a perfect position.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PeuXUd6yHE

Tour de France: general classification

Tadej Pogacar (UAE-Emirates) 82h 56m 36s
Jonas Vingegaard (Jumbo-Visma) +5’20”
Richard Carapaz (Ineos) +7’03”
Ben O’Connor (AG2R-Citroen) +10’02”
Wilco Kelderman (Bora-Hansgrohe) +10’13”
Enric Mas (Movistar) +11’43”
Alexey Lutsenko (Astana) +12’23”
Guillaume Martin (Cofidis) +15’33”
Peio Bilbao (Bahrain) +16’04”
Rigoberto Uran (EF-Nippo) +18’34”

Politics › Re: Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala For President In 2023 by budaatum(op): 8:07pm On Jul 18, 2021

preciousademc3:
If only they would allow her, I would gladly vote for her, but come to think of this we have more female voters why can't they come together and vote for one.

Because we have not yet learnt to organise and take our country back.

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Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Pentagramatton? by budaatum: 7:26pm On Jul 18, 2021

You could not google wiki first?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahshuah

Business › Re: Meet The Female Banks CEOs In Nigeria by budaatum: 7:13pm On Jul 18, 2021

TripleOh7:
Nigeria is dead. Time to move on, really.

I think Ngozi should be given a chance. After all, if Nigeria is dead as you claim what more harm can she possibly do except give us our referendums.

Politics › Re: Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala For President In 2023 by budaatum(op): 7:10pm On Jul 18, 2021

TripleOh7:
This comment here made me smile.

You'll report her to the people giving her instructions on how to run the country to their benefit? Lol

If you make her president, you've sold Nigeria to the West.

And no, they aren't coming to develop your country anymore than you sucking the last bit of juice out of an orange makes it more succulent.

We should not want to suck the last bit of juice out of an orange to make it more succulent, we should just plant more oranges so you buy another. Burn the building down report her and the hypocrisy of her backers or at least ridicule and make fun of them, all the same, make us aware of what they always do so we can know what it is we are fighting.

Just somehow I don't think we can so easily be sold like we have been in the past because I think we learnt a lot from slavery, and if we strive we can be even less swindled and develop our own country with their money.

Am I the only one who dreams of Lagos-Abuja in 2hrs on bullet train, and Lagos-London in the same time and to New York in 3 on Naija Concord Airline?

2050 will be upon us soon you know. In this lifetime of most of us!

Business › Re: Meet The Female Banks CEOs In Nigeria by budaatum: 6:52pm On Jul 18, 2021

TripleOh7:
No we are not, unfortunately.

The loans with stringent payback agreements, the aids with strings attached, the devaluation of our currency at the whims of our white masters... No, we aren't smart enough.

We weren't then, we aren't now.

But we can be in the future, especially if we strive now.

Everyone! Strive! Become smart! We will be required to raise phoenix from ashes when ₦10k is a US$.

Sports › Re: Lewis Hamilton Wins British Grand Prix After Big Max Verstappen Crash by budaatum: 6:45pm On Jul 18, 2021

budaatum:
"This is such a proud moment for me man".
Lewis Hamilton

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 6:41pm On Jul 18, 2021

basilico:
What is wrong with you.
I wrote about armed guards in error.

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 6:36pm On Jul 18, 2021

Konkoja:
Good, COVID-19 does not respect party affiliation nor status. Just bloody follow public health advice that worked to stem pandemics in the past. They are unlikely to suffer grave illness because of full vaccination but that was careless from them. Why did they not wear masks in an enclosed space?

Javid (UK Health Secretary) tested positive yesterday after full vaccination.

Even when fully vaccinated, it does not offer 100% protection. Use your mask, social distancing when out and about and washing or sanitizing hands - very important.
.
My Sunday morning advice!

Politics › Re: IPOB Blocks Gate To Kenyan Embassy In Japan (Pictures) by budaatum: 6:05pm On Jul 18, 2021

SeunOSEWApenis:
Which kind thing be dis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0BhNPiq78k

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Business › Re: Meet The Female Banks CEOs In Nigeria by budaatum: 5:52pm On Jul 18, 2021

FutureIsFemale:
The table is turning. Oh! What a time to be alive. May we all witness a female GCFR in this country IJN.
[img]https://media./images/701a32089dae6464ea37bf4f8595c256/tenor.gif[/img]

Soon we'd be hearing statements like; "Your Excellency, the President of the Federal Republic of Nigeria, Mrs. ........................

And that day my heart would be gladden with great joy. And I'd leap and thank the Lord for he has delivered us from our oppressors. It's going to be the beginning of a new dawn. May God keep us all alive to witness it IJN.

The other day I saw a picture of a quiz competition and when I looked closely, I discovered that majority if not, all the contestants were FEMALES. Oh! My heart leaped for joy.
And I shouted:
"When the Lord brought back the captive ones of Zion, We were like those who dream. Then our mouth was filled with laughter And our tongue with joyful shouting; Then they said among the nations, “The Lord has done great things for them.” The Lord has done great things for us; We are glad".

Dear nairalanders, don't try to quote me because you all would never understand my pains. There were times I wished I was a male due to the ill-treatment I received from the opposite sex. My heart gladdens whenever I see or hear great things from my gender. For years back, we were the rejected stones. We were written off. I remember when female education was meaningless to the African people. But today the Lord has changed our story.

The FUTURE is FEMALE

Business › Re: Meet The Female Banks CEOs In Nigeria by budaatum: 5:45pm On Jul 18, 2021

TripleOh7:
That woman is just overrated. White supremacist's puppet.

That's the simple truth.

I have in my head that we made her our puppet.

I believe we are smart enough.

Politics › Re: Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala For President In 2023 by budaatum(op): 5:29pm On Jul 18, 2021

TripleOh7:
I think that's a terrible idea.

Not because she's Igbo, but because she was part of Jonathan's profligate era.

I suspect strongly she was an American mole/puppet.

Read "The Economic Hitman" to understand better.

I'll gladly vote for any capable Igbo hand as president of Nigeria but definitely and absolutely not this woman.

I don't like her complicity in Jonathan either, but she surely must have learnt by now to be much wiser and do the right and proper thing. I mean, mothers, just like fathers, are never perfect, we all must know, so why expect her to be squeaky clean? Is she not much cleaner than most?

Imagine our pleasure reporting her to WTO and UN and World Bank and Harvard University and Massachusetts Institute of Technology and everyone else in the world if she misbehaves as our president?

She will be the first president whom the youths will have her ear. A mother of many children with diverse characters, is her qualification.

Femiblacky, please give 10 copies.

Sports › Re: FORMULA ONE F1 Official SeasonThread - Revamped by budaatum: 5:11pm On Jul 18, 2021

"This is such a proud moment for me man".
Lewis Hamilton

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Sports › Re: Tour De France by budaatum(op): 3:42pm On Jul 18, 2021

VAN AERT IN THE VINEYARD

Wout van Aert who came to the Tour de France with the first ambition of winning sprints and wearing the yellow jersey claimed an impressive time trial victory in the vineyard of Saint-Émilion after the Mont Ventoux stage. Kasper Asgreen and Jonas Vingegaard rounded out the podium of stage 20. Tadej Pogacar finished with 8th best time and retained the yellow jersey with an advantage of 5’20’’ over Vingegaard.
https://www.letour.fr/en/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDqt96CevYc

Romance › Re: Why It Is Dumb To Think School Is Scam . by budaatum: 3:15pm On Jul 18, 2021

EdoFirstBorn:
This post is unnecessary.

Only touts thugs criminals and whöres.

So no one who is sensible or reasonable or a human being says school is a scam

Allow the wasted live in their fantasy don't waste your time enlightening them

Please spend some time enlightening them so they can be reduced in number.

Politics › Re: Why Does The Fulanis Want Everything In Southern Nigeria(video) by budaatum: 2:40pm On Jul 18, 2021

budaatum:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zl1fIAJ5liw

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