Christianity Etc › Re: Similarities Between Jesus’s Messages And Those Of Einstein And Newton by budaatum: 7:57pm On Jul 03, 2021 |
DavidAO: .
Jesus’s view are quite different from scientific views in the sense that scientific views are materialistic but Jesus focused only on humans as it’s unreasonable to focus on the world that will definitely cease to exist at a point in time.
Personally, I prefer Jesus views of life bc science fails to teach us about ourselves with respect to these laws. The scientific laws are said to affect everything in the universe yet it doesn’t talk about us even though we are a part of the universe. Your fundamental error is in your definition of science as a 'thing' as opposed to, 'a thing done by humans', and scientific laws as "affect everything in the universe", as opposed by the observations of human scientists. Science is simple the use of the human senses to observe phenomena. And scientific laws are the result of such observations, as opposed to "affect everything in the universe", apart from we ourselves using science to "Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth", so that we may become blessed, which would be impossible if our senses remain dim. You may not see it this way, but Genesis itself is simply very early human science, as in, humans early attempt to define the universe that they see before them. But humans are limited by their prior understandings, and can only interpret what they observe within the understandings they have at the time, hence, "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. And God said, Let there be light: and there was light", which later scientist would conclude resulted in a Big Bang. But the truth is, neither the early scientists who wrote the thesis we know as the Bible, nor the later scientists who claim there was a Big Bang, were alive billions of years ago to observe how the Earth came into existence, not to talk of the supposed coming into existence of the entire universe, so we scientists of today can safely place their 'science', in the realm of 'mere speculation', as in not that which was observed by the senses. The teachings of Christ are all specifically about the world and the humans who inhabit it, as one who studies his teachings would note. He himself came into the world to teach human relations, or he would have remained in heaven, wherever that might be, or in coming to earth he would have remained in the wilderness away from all human interaction, and those who would worship or emulate him, would today be joining him in that wilderness. But he didn't remain in the wilderness. He was made flesh in the world and dwelt among us to show by his living how it is that we must relate with each other. But it seems the world still knows him not, precisely because of the lack of sufficient science by many humans who refuse to use their own senses. And this, despite him teaching that if one does learns to use the very obvious sense of sight, which is what the eyes were designed for and which he spent much time and effort in makimg work, we may ensure through learning to develop and use all our other senses so they are not all dim. Unless we become as a child, he taught, as in, if we do not abandon our prior misconceptions, we shall not enter the Kingdom of God. The reason is, our priori understandings will distort future understanding. An example is "And God said, Let there be Light, and their was a Big Bang", which is simply, scientists rewriting the Bible. Though they themselves would claim to have abandoned theology, theologically rewriting the Bible is precisely what such people do. A scientist who becomes as a child would say "as clearly as is currently understood", thereby giving allowance of their limitations and eliminating the temptation that what they say is believed. Science education is to teach one how to use the senses, and not the imbibation and belief in scientific theories, as most societies still teach. And the use of the senses does not stop evolving, as we can see from the numerous advances since "God said". Because we today have eyes of our own and some will insist on using them after Christ has spat on the ground and rubbed mud in our eyes and we bath in the Pool of Siloam so we might see, to the Glory of the Lord God Almighty. Amen. |
Education › Re: Scientist Has Found How The Ancient Egyptians massive Pyramid Stones Were Move! by budaatum: 4:35pm On Jul 02, 2021 |
They "probably" "found", lol! |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Bill Clinton Spent Last 2yrs In Jail - BBC Reporter Mix Up With Bill Cosby by budaatum: 4:32pm On Jul 02, 2021 |
It was funny that she did not realise her faux pas, but there was an immediate apology after her piece. |
Family › Re: Extortion, Corruption At Ikoyi Marriage Registry by budaatum: 4:31pm On Jul 02, 2021 |
BabbanBura: Naija is beyond repairs it seems! It isn't. This reporter exposed them. It's now up to us to publish and shame officials who extort so they can't extort with iniquity. Lala, please update this with action taken against them, if any, so we know. |
Christianity Etc › Re: You've Got Something To Offer by budaatum: 4:18pm On Jul 02, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: 3. According to Jesus Christ, you have to use the understanding you already have in comprehending ...... That is your own understanding. And it explains why you are so often off track! "Unless you become as a child you will not enter the Kingdom of God", Christ is written to have said, but I guess you don't understand that as, abandon all the misconceptions that have filled your adult mind and led you astray, and look at things with childlike innocent fresh Jesus Christ opened eyes. |
Romance › Re: Have You ''chopped'' Your School Fee Before? by budaatum: 4:11pm On Jul 02, 2021 |
In fact, after looking everywhere for ₦15 registration fee for Nov-Dec GSCE which concluded with me walking from Oshodi to Ketu and which I never managed to get, I ended up spending the next 24 hours in prison at Ketu Police Station because I refused to give ma my kerosine stove that I had scavenged from a rubbish heap. |
Romance › Re: Have You ''chopped'' Your School Fee Before? by budaatum: 4:05pm On Jul 02, 2021 |
Asadujames202: SS2
I had to
Cus I never intended to write waec in that school Some of you are so priviledged! From primary, I was working for my school fees, so nobody send me if I chop my own money. I just knew school finish be that and I'd be here now wailing with the skool na scam crew! budaatum: By '73, Ikorodu Road was the only route out. We'd leave home like 5am and not be out of Lagos by noon.
I am of course exaggerating small, but we always arrived in my Orolu Kingdom of Ifon Osun well past 10pm. And no, we were not walking!
Ikorodu Road right through Lagos was a blessing and a wonderful playground while being built. And Lagos Ibadan Expressway made me my first what seemed like a million naira at the time. I sold 4 eggs for ₦1 and 50 kobo canned Coke at the tollgate, and damn the pain when kombi bus stopped on my foot. |
Christianity Etc › Re: You've Got Something To Offer by budaatum: 3:19pm On Jul 02, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: 3. Can a one who belongs to God serve God AND humanity?  The entire teaching of Christ is humanism! But you will of course argue otherwise.
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Politics › Re: We Want To Be Seeing Day To Day Video Of Nnamdi Kanu Or We Will Deploy Chemica by budaatum: 3:08pm On Jul 02, 2021 |
PrinceOfLagos: The government should grant them this wish I have the feeling the government will say they do not negotiate with terrorists, this time at least. |
Romance › Re: Have You ''chopped'' Your School Fee Before? by budaatum: 2:54pm On Jul 02, 2021 |
SmartPunter: Most of use am knack 2 Odds at the end . It turns to it's Devil work .  Most of you did that? Amazing! I used to gamble my pocket money on three card " eyi jẹ eyi o jẹ”, that 3 card gambling game where you double your money or lose if you pick the wrong card that was very popular in Lagos in the 80s. I'd start at the top of Adeniyi Jones and all the way to Ikeja. I worked out they can't handle 3 cards for too long without identifying marks appearing on them, so I just needed to watch long enough to note the mark on the winning card then I'd lay my stake and win. The sad thing was, after winning like 3 or 4 times they always refused to play on so I'd have to move on to the next guy, but unfortunately after a while, their tout agents would follow me and inform others not to play against me, that I was one of them who knew the juju, so I'd move on to Oshodi and play again till I was refused play there too. My allowance was like ₦30 in those days, and I'd have 10 left after swimming Saturday and Sunday at Airport Hotel, but by the time I got to school, I'd have a cool ₦100 or more. I was so pissed off when police clamped down on those scammers! But no, I never gambled with my school fees because that's just like gambling with one's future which is just plain stupidly very dumb.
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Politics › Re: Why The Nigerian Manufacturing Industry Of The 80's Crashed. by budaatum: 2:34pm On Jul 02, 2021 |
vanunu: At that time, Buhari's government introduced what he called price control, forcing manufacturing firms to sell their products at what Buhari's government called government control price. Price control like oil subsidy. The same subsidy that Nigerians protest whenever government say they'll remove it? No one but ourselves is doing ourselves! budaatum: Electrical Tomatoes
The emboldened is about the only bit of this that got my attention but I notice it caught no one else's.
"Price controls"! It means a product is kept at a price set by government, and in Nigeria, we know it's kept low and very likely beneath the cost at which it can be sold at a profit. Like petrol really. But we can at least claim a reason for petrol with our crude oil and our ineptitude at running refineries. Electric though!?
Imagine it were tomatoes. You invest in land and fertiliser and labour and grow them, and when you get them to the market, government sets the price. I'm absolutely certain if that price is higher than the cost at which you grow your tomatoes, you wouldn't mind much. You'd likely be delighted if it's high enough for you to make a tidy profit. And if you're fortunate and the price set is so high, you'd likely invest in more land and more fertilizer and more labour and grow even more tomatoes. But this is Naija, where the price set by government is more likely to be way below your costs so that after you sell your tomatoes, you would have lost money.
Now think, you lost money on your tomatoes. Are you going to plant tomatoes next season? If you're into the charity business or you're stupid, you just might. But if you're not and have rent and school fees for your kids to pay and you want to eat and pay the interest on a loan I very much doubt you'd be stupid enough to throw your money away growing unprofitable tomatoes!
Well, that's the case with electricity in Nigeria I'm afraid. You generate it, transport it along unreliable transmission wires, lose a large chunk of it to illegal use and theft and what you do get paid for does not cover the cost of producing it. Now tell, would you plant electricity next season? I very much doubt it unless you're into the charity business or you're stupid, of course, but somehow, I just can't imagine you'd be either.
So, what's the solution you might wonder. Increase the price of electricity of course. But come on people, increase the price of electricity so electricity planters can earn more money and plant more and sell more? Surely you must be cursing me by now, or haven't you noticed you'd have to pay more for my electric if you want it?
Ok, perhaps you're all nice civilised folks and don't want to curse me so let's try a different way of looking at this. Imagine Buhari removes the price control so I can sell my electricity at a market determined price like I currently sell my tomatoes no doubt at a profit high enough for me to want to plant more next year. Are you cursing me yet? I'm sure you would be if it was the subsidy on petrol I were talking about removing. Hell no! You'd likely stone me if you could get your hands on me!
Well, that's what this piece is saying where it says "The private sector is given little incentive to invest.” After all, I'm in the electric planting business for the money and the profit and not because I love you all as Adam Smith would say, so why give you light if you aren't paying me for the priviledge! And you wanna complain you're in darkness?!
When you pay me enough to cover my planting of tomatoes after paying for the land and the fertilizer and the labour and the interest on a loan and cover what I lose to theft and illegal harvesting, and still make a tidy profit to reinvest, I will plant 12000megawatts of tomatoes and I will sell 12000megawatts of tomatoes and even more megawatts of tomatoes than you can eat even because you would be incentivizing me to invest what you pay me in more land and more fertiliser and more labour to plant more tomatoes so I will have more tomatoes to sell you and make more money. But if you want cheap electric, keep your price controls and don't incentivize me but don't expect me to waste my time labouring in the sun just so you can have light because, like you, I ain't that stupid nor into the charity business!
Anyone cursing me yet, because I am telling you, we are too cheap! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Similarities Between Jesus’s Messages And Those Of Einstein And Newton by budaatum: 2:31pm On Jul 02, 2021 |
DavidAO, posted below is what might assist you in responding to the above if you are so minded. budaatum: Mishigas just admit you did not learn science in school and haven't a clue what we teach you in science class, because, if you had, you'd know experiments are part of what we taught you so you may learn to use your God given senses to see for yourself instead of merely braindeadly believing what you are told and which is now letting you down.
Below is Christ telling you to become a scientist, as in, a person who uses their senses to do the research so they may understand and know:
“Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. 8 For everyone who asks receives; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened. Matthew 7:7-8
Below is the consequence of not doing science:
But if your eyes are unhealthy, your whole body will be full of darkness. If then the light within you is darkness, how great is that darkness! Matthew 6:23
While below is your reward if you can not be bothered to do science, though I am certain you are incapable of making the connection:
“‘For whoever has will be given more, and they will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what they have will be taken from them. And throw that worthless servant outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’ Matthew 25:28–30
Pray. I assure you the Holy Spirit will minister to you. Quote from your book to let me know if it is confirmed by what you wrote. |
Politics › Re: Why Niger Delta Militants ‘kept Cool’ Since 2016 — Niger Delta Avengers by budaatum: 2:24pm On Jul 02, 2021 |
Fulani do. Ipob do. Kidnappers do. Yahoo do.
Now Niger Delta Avengers want begin do again and Nigerians expect peace! |
Family › Re: Confused! by budaatum: 1:48pm On Jul 02, 2021 |
potland: are you male or female budaatum: You know very well this question gets the stock answer. Lol!
buda is both male and female, both equally is buda created.
Just imagine the responses I'd get if my gender were known, and pigs, yuk! Besides, I never find it relevant to topics at hand. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 1:30pm On Jul 02, 2021 |
basilico: Do you ever think of how you will be remembered when you long gone dead, buried and your body fed on by termites, ants and prolly hyenas ? You were an enabler of all the wrong things that coulda shoulda woulda be been righted You are concerned about how one would be remembered when dead, but do not concern yourself with how you are thought of today? I wonder if you think we'd change our minds when maga dies. See how we remember Rumsfeld now he's dead, for a clue of the meaning of dancing on graves.
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Christianity Etc › Re: About God by budaatum: 1:23pm On Jul 02, 2021 |
DannyWalker: You are quite good at avoiding yes or no with diplomatic answers... Well, what do you expect from a person who does not only see good or evil, white or black, like believers would who refuse to acknowledge the greys in between and the numerous other colours? If only they'd let their eyes be anointed with clay they too might not tremble like demons, and instead see as well as Johnydon22 sees.
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Politics › Re: Nnamdi Kanu Writes British Commission, Asks For Consular Services by budaatum: 1:12pm On Jul 02, 2021 |
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Politics › Re: Why The Nigerian Manufacturing Industry Of The 80's Crashed. by budaatum: 1:04pm On Jul 02, 2021 |
LikeAking: This is the kind of investments Nigerian govts should fund. Development is no longer about roads, bridges and schools.
Some smart guys imported these goods into Nigeria.
We should be patriotic.
Made in Aba will come to life, bigger and better. What we lack in Nigeria is patriotism. The Asian guys have lots of it.. No, LikeAking! This is not the kind of investments Nigerian govts should fund! In fact, serious entrepreneurs should refuse government funds if offered because they should know that government hand is the hand of far too many and smart people know how that spoils the broth! It is what Nigerians should fund, but even in your op you said something about "too expensive", which indicates an unwillingness to invest, so here we are buying Made in Chinese who do invest in themselves and are now reaping the profit.
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Family › Re: Confused! by budaatum: 1:02pm On Jul 02, 2021 |
kkins25: the disappointment. My God!! folykaze physical abuse like really?? folykaze, i cant believe it mehn. i cant believe it. How is it even possible that one would do that after https://www.nairaland.com/5944596/save-life-wife-baby oh comeon, you want to ruin those kids life? haba folykaze, haba!! Please give proper thought before you take any action, you've always presented yoursled as someone with a very, very, very, sound mind. Please sir, conteol the emotions!!!
cc: budaatum. Seriously! So he made his wife ill and they both came to NL to be begging us for money. Whoever said Karma is a bitch did not know what they were talking about because karma is both a bitch and a pig! Good luck lizzyangel. FOLYKAZE: I am very happy to inform the forum that my wife and little princess have been discharged and arrived home safely yesterday. My joy has no boundary seeing these two people in my home. All thanks to you all for saving the lives of the most precious souls to me, and securing their return back home.
This is my sincere appreciation to all those who out of their little resource still sent me a token when I pleaded for help here. All your contributions are all appreciated. It may not have been big but indeed, it helped in providing for the health care of my wife, and safe delivery of my darling angel. Thanks to all those who called and offer prayers, hope and motivational push. Every inputs met alot to us.
Right from when it started on 21st June, it gulped every penny I had saved and I almost lost all hopes. But you guys supported me without knowing me personally, not considering if I'm your family member or friend, despite the difficulties in the nation economy, you clad with fabric of secret, rescued me from been put to shame, saved me from the huge storm which could have swept us away. I cannot say it all
On behalf of myself, Ifeoluwakiishi, and Lizzyangel, I want to say a big THANK you. |
Family › Re: Confused! by budaatum: 12:56pm On Jul 02, 2021 |
dobnina: Were you reading my mind? I don't want to be harsh but I remember when she got pregnant for her second child, she came to naira land to beg, one lady asked her why she got pregnant again when she can barely feed. Lizzy opened her mouth to say Any woman that has one child is no different from a barren woman. Nairalanders pitied her, contributed money for baby things and hospital things. After some months, her husband opened a thread again and was begging for money. He claimed his wife was in the hospital and no money to pay for hospital bills and hospital materials. People pitied him and sent money to him. Do you know that the husband had the guts to come back again to beg for money to feed his baby. He said his bike was stolen in his house and that was his only source of income. Lizzy and her husband fit each other. When she is ready to leave, she will leave but for now, she is only looking for excuses to beg for money. I won't be surprised if she and her husband planned this. |
Family › Re: Confused! by budaatum: 12:52pm On Jul 02, 2021 |
AmazonTopaz: Lol,@Op remember me on the other thread. 
When I was telling you that women shouldn't take BS from men you stood with husband of the OP and said even in the face of nonsense the OP should keep being submissive to her hubby.
Let me pass the same advice that you gave her BE SUBMISSIVE don't worry keep fasting and praying all wil be fine 
I don't like mocking people... Really! Pocohantas said the same thing but I thought she might be mistaken! pocohantas: I’ll give you the same advice you always give women here, BE SUBMISSIVE and you will enjoy your man and marriage.
Or give you a feminist advice- LEAVE THAT UNION or whatever arrangement it is you guys have going on. Lizzyangel, you married a red pill, and in your case add 'killed' at the end. It might help you understand how seriously dire your situation is and make you stop giving excuses, especially if you consider it might not be you who dies! Oh, and some reading material. Purple Hibiscus by Chimamanda Adozie Adichie. If you'd like a free copy, request it from Femiblacky in my name.
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Family › Re: Confused! by budaatum: 12:31pm On Jul 02, 2021 |
You hear? PeaceJoyLove: @Lizzyangel
In the name of the almighty God I beg you, find a place to go and rest your mind first. Leave him for now. This is the first step. And move your children, welfare is a good option.
Listen to me, if you do not move out now, he will kill you. And these children you are protecting will be exposed to 100 times abuses and suffering. A stitch in time saves nine.
Please, stop writing details here also as you have written enough.
No matter how "ma.d" your father is, there will be someone who can talk to him. You need him NOW. There must be someone he listens to.
There is a case I got involved recently, and the man is already regretting his actions. If you are wise, you will overcome. But first, get out of that house before you lose the battle and expose your children to years of suffering they may not overcome also. And the only picture of their mother they will have is a 27 years old nursing mom. A beg....flee first.
But you need to strategize well so you can have a smooth movement out of his house. You will overcome if you do the right thing.
After moving out, your priority is your health. You arent even going to think of returning to him for a period of time. Your BP must be normal again...please. You need to settle down for a year and eat good food. Rest your mind very well. There is a way you can do it.
Sister, in short, your first plan should be to quit for minimum of a year without interruption. I dont want to write too much here because the bas.tard may be reading. |
Family › Re: Confused! by budaatum: 12:30pm On Jul 02, 2021 |
Lizzyangel: I wish I could leave,but I've got no relative in Ore and no savings cos my salary is not even enough to cater for our needs moreso, I don't want to go back to my parents house. Beg borrow steal and swallow your pride, or be killed and die and become worm food! Those are your two options. |
Family › Re: Confused! by budaatum: 12:27pm On Jul 02, 2021 |
I've had enough already! Copy all this on to paper. Send a copy to his mother and another to his father and a third to your own mother and father whom you must beg for forgiveness. Then move to go stay with your parents for a while during the school break while you think of the next step you should take! Lizzyangel: Since that April I decided not to buy foodstuff with my salary for that month,I wasn't having a good phone, so I thought, if I'm having a phone,I'd be distracted from his troubles, I got a phone, Tecno pop 4-air for 36k, I started buying school food for my boy and never bought food stuff nor cook for him, sometimes, I wouldn't have enough money to buy soap for washing, I'd buy canoe #120 and wash my kids clothes and leave ours until the next time I have money, I started borrowing money to feed my son and I, diaper and daily expenses were not easy as I didn't buy in bulk,this made him to bring out the real HIM, all this while, I thought he wasn't having,I was playing the role of a wife and a husband, my kids school fees, our transportation to school, day to day needs became clearer that I was carrying a huge load, we became enemies, he'll rage and hit me at the slightest provocation saying I should leave since I'm no longer useful, I don't cook for him, I don't wash his clothes, I don't allow him have his way(intimacy). I live daily with fear of what he's say or do again, then I went back to cooking dinner for all of us, so far, this helped him as he now see reasons why he should follow people to villages in search for cocoa produce to buy, "hunger na bastard" He started dropping something everyday after going to villages, 2h, 5h, 1k when fortunate 2k and I must make an account for every single thing I buy, I went back to buying foodstuff when may salary arrived and he's now used to working, but I stood my ground that I won't allow him to get me used again, I stopped calling or chatting up during the day, I stopped intimate conversation and stopped sex.
Last night, he called me and demanded for sex which I replied"not interested still" he raged from 12am-4am , calling me all sort of names, body shaming me and went ahead to call side chick while I'm here and my boy couldn't sleep due to his rage, he said today is 1st that I should be prepared for the worse this new month, that the things I've seen so far are little compared to what I'd be seeing henceforth, he just wants me to talk so he can hit me, one thing about me, whenever he's burning I'd keep mute, sometimes he'd hit me for not responding, he told me to be prepared cos this month will be sour for means I should start by stop calling him "Swid" that if I don't die on the long run,I should count myself lucky cos he'd frustrate hell out of me, I was just there weeping inside all through the night,he promised to bring his side chick one these days to sleep over since I've declared myself useless for some months now.
I just kept mute and hope it become dawn, to my greatest surprise, my 7yrs old boy started telling me all what he said during the night, he couldn't sleep, he was crying thinking Swid will hit me again, I felt sorry and ashamed of myself and the kind of home I'm raising my kids, the boy is becoming grown and smart, where am I going from here? I decided to come open this way cos I don't know what tomorrow may hold as his promises implied, and who's gonna tell my story to the world when I'm gone?
Save me Nairalanders. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 3:28am On Jul 02, 2021 |
Maga logic in a nutshell!
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Politics › Re: See Kanu's Letter To British High Commission In Nigeria by budaatum: 3:22am On Jul 02, 2021 |
Leybari: I dont want to do nahhh !!!! Is it by force By force for you to use your eyes and see? Of course not. You're doing quite well blind as you are. Now, let me go do what I'm certain Kanu is doing in his cell instead of letting you waste my sleep time. Read you in the morning, Leybari. Rest your mind till then. |
Politics › Re: See Kanu's Letter To British High Commission In Nigeria by budaatum: 3:17am On Jul 02, 2021 |
Leybari: That's because your brain is still in its formative state..Go to bed bro! help yourself! Adios I think I'll do just that. You make me sleepy. |
Politics › Re: See Kanu's Letter To British High Commission In Nigeria by budaatum: 3:16am On Jul 02, 2021 |
Leybari: Yoruba moslem kwenu! Adulterated moslem who is Forever a slave to the caliphate!  If only your eyes were not dim.
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Politics › Re: See Kanu's Letter To British High Commission In Nigeria by budaatum: 3:14am On Jul 02, 2021 |
Leybari: Mr pantami Is it your wait Ibn al Kalb My kindergarten education does not permit me to make sense of your nonsence, sorry. |
Politics › Re: See Kanu's Letter To British High Commission In Nigeria by budaatum: 3:11am On Jul 02, 2021 |
Leybari: Thanks but Save the complement bro! You'll need it as your return ticket back to Niger republic where you come from?!!  I don't think I need a ticket to return to my State of Osun but I guess you can come deport me to Niger Republic with your superior intelligence so we all know how capable and competent you are. |
Politics › Re: See Kanu's Letter To British High Commission In Nigeria by budaatum: 3:08am On Jul 02, 2021 |
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Politics › Re: See Kanu's Letter To British High Commission In Nigeria by budaatum: 3:05am On Jul 02, 2021 |
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