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This is definitely not a person an ambitious woman should marry, for he will not progress in life and nor will he allow those around him to progress.

triplechoice:
This harassment must end.

Don't you think it funny that you create a thread to do whatever it is you are attempting to do here and then claim harassment?

Let it be known that buda in no way feels harassed by you, triplechoice, and again kindly implore the mods not to delete or remove or hide this thread please. Thank you.

triplechoice:
Oga you have failed

@ Lordreed , check your screenshot again and see that the thread in question is not there.

If it appears now, then it can only mean one thing and you know the answer.

Kindly share this your answer so everyone can know please. I am intrigued.

triplechoice:
One final question for Budaatum:

Did you in 2009 created a thread where you advertised AMORC?

If you did,

Is the thread in question still visible on your profile?

A simple Yes or no will do.

@Deepsight, @Lordreed @Seun @Mynd44

No, Triple, I did not "created a thread where you advertised AMORC". I created a thread where I shared information about Amorc.

And yes, "the thread in question is still visible on your profile", or you would not have been able to screenshot it, nor ask others to screenshot it, nor provide a link to it.

I presume this is the thread, though there are a few more, so correct me if this is not the one you meant.

https://www.nairaland.com/302215/manifesto-positio-fraternitatis-rosae-crucis

It can be seen on the second page of my threads.

triplechoice:
. It was deliberately hidden.
He had a clear motive to hide it: to destroy the evidence that proved my accusation and to create a "catch-22" where he could demand a link to a thread he had made inaccessible.

This is like a murderer being found standing over a victim with a smoking gun, only to argue, "You didn't see me pull the trigger." The absurdity he wants everyone to accept is that the thread vanished on its own, coincidentally, the moment it became evidence against him.


@Deepsight , Lordreed, Seun, Mynd44.
This is the most critical part of this expose. please focus on it.

Here's the direct link to the hidden thread. I was only able to reach it by clicking on his moniker in the post I copied from it

https://www.nairaland.com/302215/manifesto-positio-fraternitatis-rosae-crucis#4312040

Oh! I see you beat me to it and have provided a link to a thread you claim I hid. Thank you very much.

The thread did not vanish on its own, as I have elaborated above along with how it got unvanished, for which my gratitude to the mods is immense.

Below is the process I went through too to get it unvanished, and hope the mods don't mind me posting it here.

triplechoice:
The "Smoking Gun" and its disappeariance..

In June 2023, during a debate, I proved my claim by retrieving evidence from his own profile: a thread he created in 2009 where he advertised AMORC, provided links to download their introductory materials, and encouraged new members to join. This was not a neutral quote; it was promotion to recruit new members.

Please provide the title of this so called hidden thread that was not deleted so people can look it up for themselves please, and so I too can look it up and provide a link if I find it.

Meanwhile. I suggest everyone see this post and the one that proceeded it.

https://www.nairaland.com/8511650/nairalands-bot-out-control/7#137448647

I had to email the mods for its reinstation, after it disappeared when I attempted to correct the link that seemed to work no more, and the wonderful mods kindly obliged.

The corrected link can be found here.
https://www.nairaland.com/4793988/mystical-life/3#137448667

Do kindly state if you see it as "encouraged new members to join", and or a "promotion to recruit new members".

Also please state if buda has recruited or encourage you to join any organisation whatsoever. There must at least be one person here.

Thank you in advance.

Truthseeker10:
🤣🤣🤣Baba dey make claim....no proof....he run go ai when I ask for proof. I counter am back with ai.
..e don start to shout say e no fit educate again oo...sorry no cry.
Enjoy chatgpt again Jare.

My statement was not presented as proof nor evidence, but was a statement of my knowledge, which I do not need to prove to you nor educate you about because there is no point in trying. I've been here long enough to know that, and choose not to waste my time.

Hope you can live with that.

triplechoice:
The time will come for you to defend yourself.

Allow me to present my case first and after you can occupy the thread and say what you like.

You don't need my allowance, triple. You can write whatever you want whenever you want, and I can assist you however much my heart desires, which you can see is a lot.

Truthseeker10:
Lol....so you are not going to prove to us that you "know that gods do not exist"?

Is chatgpt also lying or wrong for telling you to prove what you know?

You are funny. Did chatgpt tell you it can command me to tell you what I want to tell you or not?

There is no evidence whatsoever for the existence of gods, you'd find if you bother doing your own research, which I did so I may know because it was important to me that I know.

If it's important to you, you'd do your own research so you too may know instead of asking me to prove to you what I know. I mean, its not like you are so important that I must prove anything to you, and neither are you paying me to educate you. Or are you?

No gods exist nor have any gods existed. Take it or leave it, no skin off my nose.

triplechoice:
I told him directly that I value authenticity and that he should be himself in debates.

And buda should give a flying f what you value, why?

Are you the standard for authenticity perhaps?

Truthseeker10:
Below is chatgpt...

And it is accepted. I still maintain that my personal position on the existence of gods is not something i need to prove to you.

I did my own research for myself and found no evidence for the existence of any gods, and that they are all human creations.

You are Truthseeker10, which I will presume means you seek the truth to the tenth level and wouldn't just rely on me telling you what I found when I sought the truth for myself.

So, go seek with all your own heart and soul and mind and being. Start from the earliest gods please, some listed below, and come tell me if any of them have ever existed.

triplechoice:
Hello
DeepSight, Lordreed, Unknownunkown, AOO1, Guobe, naptu, Racoon, Antichristian, MaxinDhouse, , Meedon, lawani, Produh, OLAADEGBU, Fxmasterz, SpencerForbes, Jesusjnr2020, Kobojunkie, Ken4Christ, Truthseeker10, SmartPolician, sow4me, ReacherSaidNoth

I will proceed now with the exposing the evidence.

I already typed since yesterday everything I want to detailed here.

In the main time, take note of the image below it is from Budaatum's Profile . It contains the topics he created when he joined this forum around 2007.

It will help you make sense of what I am about to reveal.

@Seun . Mynd44

Dude, those topics are from 2009.

Below is buda's first thread in 2006 when buda joined Nairaland after migrating from the defunct Nigerians in America.

https://www.nairaland.com/20054/buda-atum-watsup-nia#552953

And here is like buda's third post on this forum.

https://www.nairaland.com/30729/there-no-god/1#713031

Truthseeker10:
So you're saying that meta ai lied or was wrong when it said you should prove that you "know that gods do not exist"?

No, i am not saying anything about Meta.

I am saying I don't need to prove to you that a thing that does not exist does not exist because you have sufficient information yourself to know if your god exists or not.

Below is Meta on the subject. I've also added from Chatgpt so it can't be said we are consulting one AI alone.

You don't merely believe what you know, just as you wouldn't just believe the water falling on your head is rain if you know the water falling on your head is rain.

Truthseeker10:
But you claim to "know that gods do not exist". Are you saying that meta ai is lying by saying that you should prove your claim?

I know.

You may ask me to educate you in what I know, but the burden of proof of a non-existing entity is on those who claim it exists.

You after all would not ask me to prove that Zeus and the Spaghetti Monster do not exist, or would you?

That said, before you were brought the Bible, Yahweh did not exist in your land, and has only existed in your land when it was introduced to you, and your gods have since been abandoned and been replaced by Yahweh.

Why is that? Did your gods before Yahweh exist?

trutharena:
Kanu's life sentence is a welcome development.

And I hope he is shown clemency if he decides to sin against Nigeria no more.

#FreeNnamdiKanu!

Truthseeker10:
Ok...please prove the statement in bold.

You are again asking me to prove a thing that does not exist does not exist.

There is no evidence whatsoever for the existence of any god, so I don't see why i should prove that for you when you can go seek evidence either ways for yourself.

I'm after all not asking you to know what I know when you haven't bothered to seek the knowledge that I have, and nor is it my intention to make you stop believing in your god.

Do note that this discussion, or my position at least, is based solely on the understanding of a text that clearly does exist.

Think of it as a discussion of the understanding of a story. The existence of the tortoise in Chinua Achebe's Things Fall Apart is not relevant to understanding the moral of the story.

Truthseeker10:
Ok....so you don't agree that God does not exist, you just doubt that he exist?

I don't "just doubt" that gods do not exist, Truth.

I know gods do not exist.

triplechoice:
No. Please don't interfere. The more you this, the more you expose yourself

It seems like you need assistance exposing buda, and I am glad to assist you more.

brain54:
It's just the way of the world...

No one is fixated about anyone's gender.

I present as evidence, your fixation as shown on this thread where you have been fixated on buda's gender.

And I think it is the way of brain54.

triplechoice:
Thank you and Thank you.

You alone is enough.

You missed out links, so let me help you.

https://www.rosicrucian.org/downloads/Mastery_of_Life.pdf

Truthseeker10:
So do you agree that a God does not exist? If yes, is there a proof that a God does not exist?

One does not need to prove that what does not exist does not exist.

The burden of proof is on those who claim gods exist, and is basic logic.

That's kind of good, I think.

I mean, if I fail to die after attempting to commit suicide, I'd kind of be happy if the state decides to kill me, I'd think.

After all, die na die, which is what my intention would have been if I'd attempted to commit suicide. No? So, why complain when I'm assisted in accomplishing my goal?

I don't need you to trust me, triplechoice.

I'd rather you trust yourself.

truthera:
I just read the news titled "Terrorism: Peter Obi Reacts To Nnamdi Kanu's Life Sentencing". Peter Obi may feel that he can deceive his follows as someone who has the interest of the south east at heart,

Last time I checked, my Peter Obi had the interest of my Nigeria at heart, and not "the interest of the south east".

That's why he ran for Nigerian President and not president of the south east! Yoruba me wouldn't have supported him otherwise.

#FreeNnamdiKanu!

Truthseeker10:
Do you personally agree that God exists?

No! I do not personally agree that gods exist.

That said, Dangote said, "let there be locally refined petrol", and there is locally refined petrol, and for that I call him a god.

All gods are figments of human imaginations, and I too am human, with an imagination.

Truthseeker10:
Do you agree that there is a God?

I agree that there are books, written by human beings, that describe gods that have all been created by human beings, in their own human images, all around the world, from the beginning of time.

Ref: https://www.nairaland.com/7707569/how-gods-made

Truthseeker10:
So you don't know how the universe and life began?

No, I don't know, and nor does anyone know how the universe and life began, though I am partial, by virtue of my Yoruba heritage, to the myth that describes how the god Obatala created dry land from a primeval ocean, which he accomplished by scattering sand from a snail shell, guided by a hen, and then sculpted the first humans from clay. And being the budaatum, I'm also partial to Atum being said to have emerged from the primeval waters of chaos and created the first gods of Air and Moisture from his own body, and from these first gods, the rest of the Ennead and the rest of the universe were created.

I don't believe them nor accept either as how the universe began though, because that would be ígnorant and foølish.

brain54:
Are you also a pervert asides being weird?

Please be free to call me whatever pleases you.

brain54:
I'm certain I saw a post of badaduun where she/he admitted to being female. She even accused me directly of "looking up her skirt" when I expressed my shock at finding out she was female.

Brain! buda has never ever admitted to being any gender on Nairaland, so please don't lie. It is however true that I "accused" you of trying to look under my skirt.

I could be Scottish of course, but I'm not.

brain54:
How can someone's gender be so much controversial?

Interesting question that, lol.

I think the gender of buda is controversial only for those who haven't got better things to concern them. And thankfully it helps me separate the serious discussers from those blinded by títs.

Truthseeker10:
2) explain how the universe and life began?

I should explain how a universe that is dated like 13 billion years old and life that is estimated to have began over 4 billion years?

Sorry, but that's like asking me to insult your intelligence, which I have no reason to do.

Truthseeker10:
So if the whole story was a myth, why stressing to explain and interpret it to suit yourself?

Because it programs many. And because I have a mind that I use.

Nigerians, my country people, do not understand that believing they are Adam of mud is self slavery.

An extreme form is Almanjerism, where people are kept ignorant so they can be enslaved and exploited.

Eating fruits of knowledge is what will emancipate us.

Truthseeker10:
🤣🤣...na wa....so Adam and eve and image of God were not real? Please explain

Do you know what mythology is?

Who was there to write this story about Adam and Eve and the Image of God for you to read?

Meedon:
The conditions you gave is too much for me. If you can't do the exposure without all these, then I'm out.

Thanks.

Tell me about it. Its like he thinks the pages he's asked to be screenshot are going to now disappear.