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 Christianity Etc › Re: Give Your 'Tithes' And Offerings To The Less Fortunate In Church by Candour(m): 12:28pm On Mar 04, 2013 |
zoe oriana: bros, u small foolish o. Who are the levites? Pls if u want to steal from God, do it alone and stop inviting people to do the same.@ the bolded. pls tell us.Who are the levites? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Tithes And Offerings by Candour(m): 11:50am On Mar 04, 2013 |
Joagbaje: The same way we don't give tithes because the law say so. It is hypocritical to say you believe in offering and alms giving and don't believe in tithes . They are all based on Same spiritual principles . Except you say we should not give God anything ever againBro Joagbaje, @ the bolded,do you need to hear of scriptural principles before you assist a human being in dire need? freewill giving as enunciated by Paul in 1Cor 16:1 and 2Cor 9:1 can never be equated to tithes and burnt offerings of the old testatment. even though Paul was favourably disposed to a group of believers taking care of their ministers(not only pastors) as stated in 1Cor 9:11, he did not mention TITHES.He DID NOT collect anything from them as in 1Cor 9:12,15 until he was imprisoned in Rome and couldn't fend for himself again.This was the time the Philippians ministered to him as in Phil 4:15-18.All the while he was catering for himself by his tent making job as in Acts 18:2-3 and Acts 20:33-35. No one here has said you shouldn't give to a pastor or any minister but what the GRACE OF GOD is against bringing a taxation law of moses to put God's children in bondage.if you want to give your entire 100% to your G.O(i know ure a pastor) by all means do but dont threaten those who dont with Mal 3:8-10 God bless you 2 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Give Your 'Tithes' And Offerings To The Less Fortunate In Church by Candour(m): 11:21am On Mar 04, 2013 |
christemmbassey: bro Candour u,re back? wellcome, @ Bidan, pls we r xpecting ur answers. Be blessed.Thanks my dear brother christemmbassey.came back to see the issue still on.i'm happy that this thread is at least making christians dust up their bibles and read. God bless you plenty |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Give Your 'Tithes' And Offerings To The Less Fortunate In Church by Candour(m): 10:03am On Mar 04, 2013 |
Mintayo: [PortHarcourtBoy]Me sef no dey kukuma dey pay tithe give anybody and Baba God still dey bless me...I never wanted to say this but here goes The Dana plane that crashed rested on the duplex and warehouse of a living faith pastor(read this in the papers).was it because he didn't tithe? The poor brother said he lost everything including 2 jeeps etc and he's been crying for compensation since then(don't know if he's been compensated as of now). The moral of this info is challenges come to every single human being whether you're a tithe payer or not. My bible tells me the hands of the diligent maketh rich.God pours rain both on the just and on the unjust. My friend quoted a portion of psalms that said the wicked are in slippery places and would eventually lose their wealth to christians like him who are tithers so he's eagerly waiting for the day he'll inherit properties of sinners.i just shook my head and told him he'll have to wait for ever. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Give Your 'Tithes' And Offerings To The Less Fortunate In Church by Candour(m): 9:48am On Mar 04, 2013 |
graluxxy054: I don't know y people like creating problems for themselves. I don't know y people like involving themselves in things that does not concern them? Leave God and pastors matter alone before you incur Gods wrath upon yourself. Don't add or subtract anything to/from the Bible. I've read my Bible and I've not seen where God instructed us to give our offerings and tithes to the poor. If u want to give to the poor, do it the right way and at the right time. Stop twisting Gods word to suit yourself and situation!My brother,pls why not quit these threats? can't you see they DO NOT work? inasmuch as i don't agree with personal abuse on anybody(not only MOG), you should know if you are a christian that the era of Elijah calling down fire from heaven on enemies is over as we're under grace and not law.So gone too is that favorite threat of devourers on Non-Tithers. It's these threats Christians issue that fail to materialize and non Christians laugh themselves silly.If only they do work,Frosbel,pastor Kun and Goshen360 should have been begging under a bridge now. The following questions have been asked on this thread and similar ones 1.Who are the Levites today? 2.Who are the Priests today? 3.Which of them should collect the tithes from God's people? 4.what should be tithed? 5.where is the storehouse and what is the meat that Malachi said should be made available in the storehouse? I believe if you can honestly search through the scriptures yourself,you'll arrive at a serious body of truth that has been suppressed for ages. 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Tithes And Offerings by Candour(m): 3:16pm On Mar 03, 2013 |
my dear Brethren,greetings to you all.men!!! this thread don long gan ni o  .pray God indeed helps us study his word more and understand. God bless you all |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Be Wise, Touch Not God's Anointed! by Candour(m): 12:36pm On Mar 03, 2013 |
GraceBestowed: @Candour, excellent response, thank you!Exactly the point @the bolded dear sister.we should stop generalizing every MOG as fraudulent and also stop generalizing every MOG as called of God simply because they are leading a big organization. Imagine adults in complete possession of some gray matter in their head kneeling down to a cane welding overseer and been flogged because they came to church late.This is the norm in a so-called 'church' here in this country. God bless you jare daughter of God |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Be Wise, Touch Not God's Anointed! by Candour(m): 11:41am On Mar 03, 2013 |
GraceBestowed: What has been baffling me lately is the complete disregard people have displayed for the men and women of God. By 'men and women of God', I'm referring to the well known pastors, and pastors in general.Blessings to you dear sister. let us go that 'touch not anointed verse again. Psalms 105:12-15 reads thus '12.When they were but a few men in number;yea,very few, and strangers in it.13.When they went from one nation to another, from one kingdom to another people;14.He suffered no man to do them wrong:yea, he reproved kings for their sakes;15.Saying, touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm. If you study the above very well,you'll notice he was referring to the whole isreal as anointed so don't localize it to a pastor or MOG no matter how visible. Courtesy demands we avoid abusing people irrespective of status and for this reason,i STRONGLY detest insults on people.attack issues instead because attacking personalities is an attribute of a small mind.However,we christians must be known to stand against false doctrine anywhere we see it.If MOG feel that he's preaching right and someone is hindering the truth,then he should do like Paul in Acts 13:8-12 and pronounce judgment and see if God will answer him. Rev Jim Jones in 1978 led almost 1000 souls on mass suicide hiding under this same touch not my anointed defence.If only more people had spoken out,maybe it wouldn't have happened.National Geographic channel ran a documentary on it last year.Do you know how many americans concluded there was no God because of it? Not speaking up is a greater evil my dear sister. I only wish my brethren on here will avoid going personal on these topics. 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Pope Benedict's Retirement Package by Candour(m): 11:18am On Mar 03, 2013 |
[quote author=Olu-Emma & Ass.]Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI, the 264th successor of Pope Peter and the 265th Pope of the Roman Catholic church will get as retirement benefits a 2500 Euro pension, a Vatican home, cooked meals and housekeepers. Next Monday, cardinals will meet to determine the next Papal conclave to elect the new Pope.[/quote]This is where the catholic church shows more christlikeness than our pentecostal/charismatic churches.can u imagine any of our visible MOG'S in Nigeria agreeing to 2500 Euros(less than 600k naira) monthly pension? If this is true,then i salute the man and the catholic church jare.With the size of the catholic church,they could even afford to give him a million dollars monthly i'm sure without sweating. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Gave My Life To Christ Confused Bout Music by Candour(m): 8:38am On Mar 03, 2013 |
achina boy: guy if you open church in future,write me in your member`s book,am in,you have explained it all for people that wants to listen,,these days people prefers to listen to socalled assistant jesuses instead of using there brain Hmm......@achina boy.no go there o.I think there is something about forming a 'church' that immediately makes the founders see themselves as God's viceroys or regents and hence start lording or controlling the lives of God's children.The solution is not in opening a new church but in getting Christians to start studying their bibles more like the bereans in Acts 17:11. Paul said in 2 Cor 1:24 ''Not for that we have dominion over your faith,but are helpers of your joy:for by FAITH ye stand. No amount of works can save a Christian or make him favoured before God and surely blind and stupid loyalty to an MOG will not do either.everything is by his grace and that is what we have to internalise. may God help us |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Gave My Life To Christ Confused Bout Music by Candour(m): 4:34pm On Mar 02, 2013 |
daisybee: Gave my life to Christ living nd walkin in. Spirit I e had to encounters already ..... I'm in a good place but den like all young believers I have questions nd deep down I know d devil always try's to bring me down. In d issue of music I'm a music freak I love jazz music neo- soul and nytin quirky . I gavel life to Christ and I seriously sieved all my music n left a lot of Christian music which I rili enjoy nd den left few inspirational songs expl India arie little things, John mayers " stop this train" etc music with uplifting positive messages. But I hear pastors say all music dat dosnt call God is sinful but I don't believe it. Does it mean I can't watch broadway shows.... My pastor even sed sumtn bout kenny g instrumentals bein I spired by him watchn lesbians.... He sed he read it! I personally don't believe dat we shud believe all we read! But den I ask myself wen I get married cant. I listen to love songs with my husband.... Suddenly I feel like my life is very limited nd I don't want it to be... Wen dey preach against dis I suddenly feel down like I have a problem.... Nd b4 all dis I was living peacefully serving my God but now I'm confused cosi don't believe all music I bad... I know we were created to worship God ..... Deir some inspirational songs I listen to nd it even magnifies God more in my mind even wen his name isn't mentioned ..... Now I find myself living in sin consciousness .... Nd I don't feel lik I'm doin nytin wrong yet dere is always an accusing voice..... I know God wants me to enjoy d good things dat life has to offer.... Yet ppl preach different things nd it makes it so hard for one to discern which is rite.....My dear sister, as Christians, we have no dogma to follow.Rom 8:14 said for as many as are led by the spirit of God,they are the sons(daughters) of God.We are saved by grace,our salvation is a gift and that gift if truly we have believed it and received it wholeheartedly,will make us do things that are wholesome and show love for God. The fact that a particular music doesn't refer to God doesn't make it unwholesome.If we have to follow that logic,then your blackberry or Iphone defiles you because it was most likely made by an atheist.Then your japanese car too is anathema as it was made by an adherent of shinto religion(possibly) or an atheist.In fact check thru your house and count how many items are made by christians,there must be very few. Now if a song for instance promotes ganga smoking & drug taking(injurious to your health),bestiality or violence(injurious to others) etc,you should immediately know it can't glorify God hence kill the appetite for it. The bible says do everything to the glory of God.let this thought guide you and peace of mind shall be yours. God bless you plenty 2 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Leecher Preachers by Candour(m): 4:04pm On Mar 02, 2013 |
Joagbaje: Preach the gospel brother,that's what sinners need to hear. that's what glorify christ. Not judging people you know little or nothing about. Ridiculing christ body openly for sinners to be more harden against christ. Leave men to be judge by their master.Matthew 23:15 ''Woe unto you Scribes and pharisees, hypocrites, for you compass sea and land to make one proselyte and when he is made, you make him twofold the child of hell than yourselves'' You know Joagbaje,it's better to leave the sinner where he is than use a false doctrine to make him twice the son of hell. An old bible teacher once said a 100% lie is more easily corrected than 90% truth mixed with with 10% lie and i think i agree with him fully. In the write up by Frosbel,there was no name calling so we shouldn't condemn it with subjective bible verses.other men's matters in the verse you quoted simply refers to private individual matters but when it comes to the issue of the church,it's every christian's duty to poke his nose my dear brother. If only more people had made Rev Jim Jones 1978 issue their own,we would not be talking of a mass suicide of close to a thousand people in the name of 'Christianity'. may God help us |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Tithes And Offerings by Candour(m): 5:24pm On Feb 16, 2013 |
christemmbassey: @Goshen and Candour, God bless for these last 4-5 posts, ur sincerity, temperances, patience, wisdom and CANDOUR shows how much you love the Lord and ur commitment to the gospel truth. @Bidam i want to respectfully request that you spend time and prayerfully study bros Goshen and Candour recent posts in this thread, it will bless you. PeaceMy dear Christemmbassey.thanks a lot.i'm really glad to have met you and i hope we have more fruitful engagement in the word not only on this forum but even in person.Goshen,Pastor Kun,Frosbel,Jil,Bidam,Oladeegbu,Image123 etc i appreciate you all my brothers.we might argue but we must ''endeavour to keep the unity of the spirit in the bond of Peace'' while we study to show ourselves approved unto God,a workman that needed not be ashamed rightly dividing the word of truth. God bless you all N/B:taking a sabbathical from nairaland.should be back in a forthnite.see u then 2 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Tithes And Offerings by Candour(m): 5:17pm On Feb 16, 2013 |
Bidam: bro...go back to your first love..your pastor may not have all the answers and i don't either..but truth is tithing is a spiritual principle...don't let any one deceive with hypocritical teachings and doctrines of demons..you have been right for the past 25yrs only for you to start straying from the path of truth..if truly God spoke to you not to tithe anymore, then i will rest my case..ur personal search might have been mixed up with heretic modern day teachings that tithing is not biblical..agreed the NT emphasis on tithing is to say the least skeletal but that doesn't negate the fact that it wasn't practised by the early church..Ola gave scriptures on that only for Goshen to say otherwise..may God help us..Thanks for your honesty @the bolded.Always remember no one knows by himself.only the bible does.the fact that you met TITHES being paid in Christendom doesn't make it right.Thats why Jesus Christ admonished in John 5:39 to search the scriptures which is what the Berean Christians did in Acts 17:11 after listening to Paul.If they couldn't accept the teachings of the great Apostle Paul without first consulting the scriptures,then pls DO NOT accept the teachings of any MOG by whatever name called without you checking through the bible.Also dont rely on just one bible verse.I'll give you a hint here;the bible always interpretes itself with more than one verse.to see the truth of Mal 3:8-10, you MUST relate it to Deut 14:22-29 and Num 18:1-32.there are others even in Nehemiah 10,11 &12 but am sure a close and indepth study of these will clear your doubts. I didn't mix up any heretical teaching my brother.I arrived @ the truth myself by the help of the Holy Spirit and you can do same. Happy to have talked to you.wish you all the best 2 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Tithes And Offerings by Candour(m): 3:08am On Feb 16, 2013 |
Bidam: yeah..my prob...is network sori..so we agree God instituted 3 tithing to isreal as a nation..have you ever asked yourself why would God go to such a lengthy details on such issues of offerings and sacrifices? We know isreal failed God..what u guys fail to see is that there is what is called typology and allegory..are you guys trying to take what God told the children of isreal literally? Or is it a typology? Or is it an allegory?don't tell me there is not a lesson we need to learn from the whole concepts of givings from the OT..don't look at what your pastor is saying but go back to God and ask Him why He instituted it...even when isreal had a king and pay their taxes ..they are still required to pay their tithes to the temple.sorry about the network. you know we dont need a special revelation to know God's intention for the Tithes.Its simply to enable the Levites and the priests face the job of sanctuary service squarely and totally(see Numbers 18:20). I really dont know what typology and allegory has to do with this.If it's just an allegory then why institute it as a law for the church of God? Of course it teaches a lot of lessons on welfare for the needy ones among us. You know i started asking this questions and went on a quest to find out the truth when i discovered most pastors either didn't understand it or they were just plain deceitful about it because of it's implications for raising and spending money in church.so you see,i stopped relying on my pastor a long time ago to give me answers to issues like this. Isreal was required to pay their Tithes to the temple,that we agree on. Bro Bidam,you've still not answered the question.are we as christians meant to pay TITHES like Isreal? If yes,which of the 3 variants of Deut 14:22-29 do we adopt or is it all 3 so we can be seen to obey God's injuctions fully? meanwhile you didn't do anything with the definition of love i gave you Thanks a lot 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Tithes And Offerings by Candour(m): 2:12am On Feb 16, 2013 |
Hi Bro Bidam.did you see my definition? awaiting you bro |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Tithes And Offerings by Candour(m): 1:21am On Feb 16, 2013 |
Bidam: Candour, my gist seems to be lost on you..ayam not advocating we go back to the mosaic law..like i said earlier the OT was a shadow of the NT...remember i said God is Love..please can you give me the defination of love according to your understanding?Love is that which seeks its neighbor's highest good hope this definition suffices? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Tithes And Offerings by Candour(m): 12:37am On Feb 16, 2013 |
Bidam: God must really have a wonderful sense of humor...based on the scripture u quoted..it goes to show the love God has for isreal. so it is not all about legalism altogether..to my understanding the children of isreal practised 3 types of tithing..and u just picked only one for an argument. God concept of His kingdom is outlined in Ex 19:6.. And God still want all His laws remembered( mal 4:4)..am surprised you didn't quote deut 16:17, deut 18: 1..anyway sha..ave u heard the phrase "obedience is better than sacrifice"?..or why do you think Abraham obeyed God when he offered His son isaac.. The OT was a forshadow of the NT..Just as Christ offered himself..we ought to lay our lives for the brethren..The whole point about God's kingdom is Love..cos God is LOVE..now if u can't start by giving a measly 10% of ur Life just becos u re too busy you ave not yet begun your journey into His Kingdom..identity is the basis of behavior: a clear understanding of who we are in Christ guides our conduct in the Spiriti'm happy u replied.now i just read the references you gave and noted the following 1.Deut 16:7 was talking of eating the passover(start from Deut 16:1 to get the full gist) which is totally different from tithes.i want to believe you're not advocating we start celebrating passover which is a shadow of Christ's atoning sacrifice. 2.Deut 18.1 confirmed what Deut 14:22-29 said in that TITHES of the mosaic era were actually a welfare tax on isrealite farmers to cater for the tribe of levi who had the duty of the sanctuary and HAD NO INHERITANCE IN ISREAL(meaning,no property,no business,no farm lands etc).It also took care of the poor in the land.you can also scan through Numbers 18:1-32 to get another detailed explanation. you are right they practiced more than 1 and that's what i stumbled on 3 years ago that made me sit down and start questioning the traditions i had been born into. Why has no pastor,i repeat no pastor when preaching about tithes ever told us there were more than 1? why was Deut 14:22-29 never quoted?.my dear Brother Bidam,i dont know your denomination but i'm sure i can safely conclude you DO NOT practice any of the variants of TITHES listed in Deut 14:22-29.my understanding of the tithes there are 1.yearly Tithe which you take to the temple in Jerusalem and eat with your family and also the levites(Deut 14:22-27) 2.trienial tithe which you give to the Levite,strangers,fatherless and the widows(Deut 14:28-29) 3.The Tithes only comprised proceeds of Agricultural and Livestock farming.(Deut 14:23) As for Mal 4:4, i want to ask if these laws comprise all the laws from Deut 12:1 to Deut 27:26? or the 10 commandments ? Also since Christ died for our sins,where does the law end and grace begin? especially with reference to Matthew 5:17-18, Romans 10:4 and Gal 3:10-14 Thanks a lot |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Tithes And Offerings by Candour(m): 10:59pm On Feb 15, 2013 |
Image123: what's with the blabbing about deeper life and kumuyi? can folks stick to the thread instead of sentiments, blackmail and man-worship? if you want to talk to Ola talk to him, if you want to talks to kumuyi or oyaks or oyedepo or adeboye, go to their church on Sunday.only you can explain what got you into your rage but pls dont hurt yourself.any adult can see the thread was started by OLADEEGBU and i was clarifying things based on what christemmbassey and Goshen concluded about the OP. You can blab all you want but it doesn't remove a strand of hair from my body.If you can't contain your rage my dear brother,do us all a favour and do what my daughter would do;GO TO BED and sleep it off. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: What Can You Do When Prayer & Praises Fail? by Candour(m): 8:48pm On Feb 15, 2013 |
[quote author=frank3.16]How does prayer work? Pls can u xplain? Well, this is how I see it. Some people pray and some don't. Both good and bad things happens to people who pray and people who don't. However, those who pray blame their prayers for good things that happens to them while they blame the devil for bad things. But people who don't pray just attribute good life events to their hardwork or luck. U see the difference here is who or what u attribute good outcome life events to. If u pray and believe that it will work, u will find out that whenever ur desired result is acheived u will attribute it to ur prayer despite ur hard work and despite the time it happens. But even after praying and hardwork ur desired result is not acheived u give excuse for ur prayer because u can't afford to have a doubt for ur belief. Such excuses include, maybe u didn't have much faith, Gods time is the best, perhaps ur prayd wrongly, etc. At the end of the day life shiit happens to everybody. Some people are luckier than others, some are sharper(more intelligent or wiser) than others, some work harder. But wit or witout prayer, life happens and the believe in prayer is just an illisionary comfort zone.[/quote]hmmmm.......food for thought. Bill Gates an atheist very rich.Oyedepo a christian very rich.Dangote a muslim very rich.all 3 with vastly different beliefs but one thing in common;a burning desire to succeed and readiness to fight for it.could that be the key or maybe they were just plain lucky? you might never know. You see,i am a christian and i believe we are asked to pray(which is more like gisting with your father than asking your school master for all the supplies you need for the term) however what makes a christian's experience different than others is the eternity factor.Only then can it make sense(though to the atheist,that is the begining of senselessness but it's their opinion right? )weather answers come or not or are delayed, we are asked to pray.Eccl 9:11 sums up our experience on earth here and it holds true for a muslim,an atheist or a christian. ''I returned, and saw under the sun, that the race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, neither yet bread to the wise, nor yet riches to men of understanding, nor yet favor to men of skill;but time and chance happeneth to them all'' Always remember, 'no situation is as bad as it seems'.Dont let worry kill you before your time and chance come.maybe you need to dig in and fight the battle that seems overwhelming and you'll get your answer but then how much do i know? @OP, i wish you the best 9 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Tithes And Offerings by Candour(m): 8:06pm On Feb 15, 2013 |
christemmbassey: let Ola stop intimidating and collecting ppl's monies as tith. It was abolished. However a christian can give 100% if he wish but dont stampeed them.Exactly my sentiments too my brother |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Tithes And Offerings by Candour(m): 7:29pm On Feb 15, 2013 |
Goshen360: Ola is blinded to MONEY and hence he sees OFFERINGS from scriptures as MONEY. Offerings as practiced in the scriptures is NEVER to bring money. That's exactly what I'm trying to tell him but ....... smh. OmG!I dont think OLADEEGBU sees it in the same way properity teachers see it.you can see he and Joagbaje being diametrically opposed on the PROSPERITY GOSPEL thread he opened.I believe he just cares about christians funding legitimate church programs which is not a bad idea.since i started attending Deeperlife Dec retreat in 1986 as a child,i have always been amazed at how a church can feed thousands of people with three square meals for 5-7 days consecutively without asking for a RETREAT OFFERING.Dec 2012 was no exception and i remember my younger brother whom i went with saying 'bros,i must chop this rice wey dey fire so' because we packed close to the kitchen(Rumuodara camp ground) and you couldn't ignore the sweet aroma of the food which indicated it must be of high quality.there was still no call for retreat ofeering.Infact offering was actually taken only once throughout the retreat and it was on a sunday. So pls dont tar him with the same brush.the argument is that we believe christians are no longer bound by the 10% law of Moses but are at liberty now to give something or not to give anything as their spirit leads them.this is my understanding of GRACE and i've asked him to explain matthew 23:23 he quoted earlier. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Tithes And Offerings by Candour(m): 6:24pm On Feb 15, 2013 |
@OLADEEGBU You amaze me with your vituperations here.I wish you could stick to the point here.No matter the language you employ to read Ben Carson's speech,the summary of the TITHE reference is to make Americans see the wisdom in a fair and equal tax system.Not for Americans to start paying TITHES.Be that as it may,Ben Carson is not Apostle Paul neither is he a human bible.you should even know that Carson is an Adventist so what would you say if he calls you a sinner for not observing the SABBATH?let us try to explain doctrinal issues using the bible as much as possible. i wish you could explain Matthew 23:23 you quoted in relation to Matthew 23:1-3.i think its better we avoid taking it from the middle. Kumuyi your G.S NEVER I REAPEAT NEVER explains a bible verse all on its own.he is an advocate of reading the bible in context and that is what i beg of you here. Bro OLADEEGBU,pls indulge me and let us discuss the references above. God bless you |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Tithes And Offerings by Candour(m): 5:58pm On Feb 15, 2013 |
Bidam: i ain't launching a poor personal attack on u bro..rather i pointed out to you why for the past 25yrs..you ave not heard God clearly on this issue till now? You are the one taking this tithe issue far too seriously for your comfort..and while we re on the subject paul zeal was in persecuting the church and not d other way round..so don't use him as your examplei am happy to hear you didn't intend going personal. Now my dear brother,can you pls explain Deut 14:22-29 here? As Christians,i believe we shouldn't be scared of reading and discussing any part of our bible.Dont think i'm patronising you.I see myself as nothing more than a bible student who wants to obey God from the bottom of my heart and would be glad if you could point me back to the right path if indeed i'm on wrong road. I remember you and i even engaged on a thread not long ago where i requested a discuss like this and your reply was no problem(if you go through your posts in December 2012 i think,you'll see it). Thanks in anticipation and God bless |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Tithes And Offerings by Candour(m): 4:46am On Feb 15, 2013 |
Goshen360: ^yes o my brother.the race is not about how long you've been doing something o.Its about the scriptural correctness of it all. Been working through the night so had time for this discussion.i go soon leave you yankee people make i go sleep. God bless you |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Tithes And Offerings by Candour(m): 4:35am On Feb 15, 2013 |
Image123: you should go and sleep, no literate should take the quoted post seriously. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Tithes And Offerings by Candour(m): 4:32am On Feb 15, 2013*. Modified: 6:00am On Feb 15, 2013 |
Bidam: you have been following Jesus for 25 years by paying your tithes and now your "eyes" are opened that it is a fraud...pls tell me, has Jesus never spoken to you for the past 25 years that you gave your life to Him about the tithe issue? Why until now? A believer that is blind for good 25 years should not be taken seriously.Thanks a lot for your conclusion.i'm bold and humble enough like Apostle Paul to admit that ''i was just being Zealous of the traditions of my fathers''(Gal 1:13-14) in following the LAWS OF MOSES(TITHE) when i had been under GRACE all along.@the bolded,probably he had but i was too religious to listen just like you are doing now. You dont need to take me seriously because it's not about me dear Brother;It's about what Grace entails and that's why i had to drop the traditions i was born into and start my journey again from the foot of the cross for by grace i'm saved,not by works(Eph 2:8-9 I'm sure no one taught you about tithe because you must have met your parents doing it so i understand your rigidity.It takes a man to admit he had been on a wrong road for so long Just like Apostle Paul. That you refuse to treat the issue on ground and instead launch a poor personal attack wont hide the bible references that abound on this thread and wont drag me into the childish game of mudslinging. God bless you plenty 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Tithes And Offerings by Candour(m): 1:02am On Feb 15, 2013 |
Image123: hahaha, tithe is a matter of life and death for this guy. i m moved with pity and compassion for you.What would you fare with the weightier matters of the law.Actually it's a matter of life and death for those MOG's whose ministry and lives will end without it.It's also life and death for the christians who believe God will punish them for not paying it.This is in spite of Romans 8:32 which says ''He that spared not his own Son,but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?'' Just ask whatever you will from God, as long as it's according to his will, he'll grant you.IJohn 5:14-15 |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Tithes And Offerings by Candour(m): 11:35pm On Feb 14, 2013 |
Image123: Jul was not castigated, whatever that means, for posting an article. He and kevin? were expected to SUMMARISE instead of his cheeky copy and paste. Get your acts/facts right.ok if castigated rubs you the wrong way.you can modify it to complain in your mind.the important thing is that OLADEEGBU asked JIL to summarise, JIL posted the article and OLADEEGBU raised a querry.I asked OLAADEGBU for a simple answer and he directed me to an article which contradicts his earlier opposition to receiving an article as answer to his own questions.If he wont take it why is he offering it to me? I believe it's settled now. Anyway,the matter on ground now is more important than semantics.i'm sure you understand |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Will God Accept Tithes And Offerings From Looters And Criminals? by Candour(m): 10:44pm On Feb 14, 2013 |
christemmbassey: God will continue to increase his wisdom his wisdom in you. Stay blessed. War on tith collectors in Nl untill they repent.Thanks my brother.i say amen to your prayers. God will surely deliver his children from CASINO GOSPEL that encourages greed and all its associated vices. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Tithes And Offerings by Candour(m): 10:15pm On Feb 14, 2013 |
Image123: false accusation is pharisaic and totally unchristian.see what OLAAGEGBU [/b]replied to [b]JIL @8.00PM on Feb 12(it's on the 3rd page of this thread) ''I asked you to summarise and you went off to copy and paste the whole article. If you don't know how to summarise would you at least learn some basic bible knowledge? And for your information, the Bible does not say that Money is the root of all evil. Read your Bible and if you are of a teachable heart you might come to the knowledge of truth.'' My dear Image123,check through my posts on nairaland in the short time i've been here;i don't employ underhand tactics as you can see,it's not a false accusation |
