₦airaland Forum

It’s not today Obasanjo has been rigging

There are only 2 ways to reposition Nigeria. Borrow heavily for investments and infrastructure and increase taxes to pay for the debt service. When I say borrow heavily I mean be prepared to borrow up to $500b+ over the next 10 years. Any body telling you otherwise is lying to you or doesn’t have a clue what is takes to pull Nigeria out of its malaise.

If you think you are going to develop Nigeria by “savings” you are clueless.

Major boost? NCP got a grand total of 3,799 votes in the 2019 presidential election

owobokiri:
I beg to respectfully disagree.
People are really hurting..
Big Time.

Moreover, the two major parties presented two well known crooks. Very uninspiring figures in a very critical time when te baresst the people needed was someone to give them hope!

Tribal and religious sentiments will play their normal roles but the most engaged and the most agitated inn this elections, are the ones who are desperate for a new beginning..

Believe what you want. We are close enough to the elections for me to argue with anyone. We shall soon see who is right or wrong.

owobokiri:
What if the youth are just 10%? Are you saying that the older generation are so comfortable with the status quo that they will prefer to vote for either the PDP or the APC? So once you are older, you start to loose every sense of decorum and decency, and as such will prefer to have your tormentors permanently fixed at your back to whip you till eternity? They want to buy fuel for 800 naira per liter?

The older generation by and large will vote as they have always voted.

This man echoes what I have been saying for months… the delusion that every youth is automatically Obidient. I particularly like the point he made that Northern youth did not participate in endsars in fact they were against it. They actually protested against the endsars protests..

Furthermore, he also makes a very good point that this youth we talk about are only 26% of the entire voting population. Even I must admit that when we talk about youth population, we forget that the 18 and under which are counted in the youth figures, can’t vote!!!!

There is a difference between the youth and the youth who are eligible to vote.

KanwuliaExtra:
Like I stated earlier, this is not my personal story. I am using an article to discuss some of my observations and express my viewpoint.
Please, contribute respectfully and meaningfully.
Most Nairalanders I have interacted with over the years know I have been off the marriage market for over 20 years. . . .
I am an expert authority of marriage and have many years under my belt to discuss ALL FAMILY TOPICS.
please, stick to your generational gap move to your next target!

Only an unwise man argues with a woman, talk less a woman like you.

Read your post again it’s all about you you you! Your entire post is about your personal business. You made your personal business a public matter….No one gives a sh1t. No wonder nobody marry you!!!


Expert ko, expert ni! It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to know, you are either never married or you are divorced because no man will put up with you and your nonsense man’s be happy. Men want peace!!
Argue with your keyboard!!!

To young women reading this don’t take relationship or marriage advise from women who themselves can’t find or can’t keep a husband. If you want relationship advise seek it from those who have visible marriages you admire not faceless bitter old spinsters on the internet. Someone who doesn’t t know what it takes to find a man, to keep a man, to maintain a household, to raise children, to raise a happy home and marriage is not a mentor!!! All they will do is lead you to where they are old lonely bitter and unwanted. This woman is clearly old, read her post below in her own words…she is alone, she clearly could not get a man to marry or could not keep her marriage together!!! This is not the sort you take advice from!!!

KanwuliaExtra:
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2022/05/why-women-live-longer-than-men-2/




Guessing matter ke?

I think as I get older, I do not tend indulge in unhealthy relationships or habits as a female. I am quite content with my ALONE time without looking for attention from same or opposite sex. I have made all the friends and companions I could ever possibly make and have ABSOLUTELY no room for new friendships or relationships. Advantages?

1. I eat and sleep well, exercize and do only things that give me peace and pleasure. I have become extremely selfish with my body and soul that I could care less if i remained married or died single!

2. Predatory/scam emotional or financial relationships are not possible at this stage of my life as to bring about unnecessary depression and anxiety. . . .or other mental challanges that would be detrimental to my wellbeing.

KanwuliaExtra:
Why are you making this a 'personal' matter. . . .?
First of all. . . Stop derailing threads all over NL
Secondly, it is not your business if I am married or single.
Thirdly, I owe you or NL no explanations. . . .gone are those days!

Now, back to topic!

This is the problem with narcissistic modern women like you. You give but you can’t take….again another reason men run away from women like you. By the time a man gets to a certain age he can smell problem women a mile off. Who came on Nairaland talking about themselves? You made your “personal” business a public matter? If you do t want your personal business to be an issue then STFU about your personal business.

KanwuliaExtra:
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2022/05/why-women-live-longer-than-men-2/




Guessing matter ke?

I think as I get older, I do not tend indulge in unhealthy relationships or habits as a female. I am quite content with my ALONE time without looking for attention from same or opposite sex. I have made all the friends and companions I could ever possibly make and have ABSOLUTELY no room for new friendships or relationships. Advantages?

1. I eat and sleep well, exercize and do only things that give me peace and pleasure. I have become extremely selfish with my body and soul that I could care less if i remained married or died single!

2. Predatory/scam emotional or financial relationships are not possible at this stage of my life as to bring about unnecessary depression and anxiety. . . .or other mental challanges that would be detrimental to my wellbeing.

No wonder you were talking crap earlier on. You clearly wasted your youth and are now alone.

As for the boldened. If you were married, why would you feel a need to state no2.?

Like I said to you earlier good successful men don’t marry women with your mindset. If they do it ends in an unhappy marriage. Instead of you as a mature woman who missed the boat to reflect and advise the younger women on the errors and poor choices you made, you come here spewing crap in the other thread reinforcing the exact mindset that has left women like you on the shelf and alone in your advancing years.

Trust me being old sucks even if you have a partner and it is to the advantage of men that we tend to die 1st. If you have a parent usually mother who is alive but husband dead you know they (mothers) are very lonely.

Mummyfour:
Even if he had used a private school play ground, he had a good outing, when you consider the fact that you people kept saying he would not get anyone in the north to attend his rally/ campaign.
It may be like a naming ceremony to you, but e dey sweet us. We get hope.
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Shebi Hell Rufaya has gone into hiding after the Kaduna crowd almost choked him to death

5,000, even 20,000 is nothing. I have said this many times before, most stadiums in Nigeria are 10,000. In states with millions of voters filling a stadium means nothing. The only indication you can infer is when a stadium that is not full. If you can’t fill your venue in a state, then we can automatically deduce you won’t do well in that state. But filling a stadium in itself means nothing.


Why?

1) all parties including Labour mobilize supporters from other states if they are weak in that state. Most people at rallies are incentivized to be there one way or another.

2) the capacity of any stadium in Nigeria is less than 1% of the population of that state.

Filling a stadium means nothing, failure to fill a stadium on the other hand speaks volumes so parties choose small stadiums/venues in areas they are weak.


Put it this way, the number of Ibos in any state is more than the capacity of any stadium in that state and we know Ibos are voting for Obi, so stadium numbers are meaningless except when the crowd is low.

After much humiliation, Obi borrowed himself some sense and rented a small stadium with a mere 5,000 capacity, if he really wanted to test his strength he should have tried Dami Abacha stadium.

sageb:
Apostle Suleiman and Nollywood actress scandals is like 5 and 6.

Nollywood actresses and sidechicking are like 3 and 4

Are you not stupid as a woman to get pregnant for a man married man 3 times and even more retard3d to publicly state it?

KanwuliaExtra:
Bia? #betapikin#

Stick to the damnn thread and you won't be quoted. . . .

You don’t learn do you? Again this is the problem with modern women…delusional and argumentative, the exact traits men can stand in side chicks but won’t tolerate from Life partners.

Modern women are programmed to be delusional. I repeat as an adult, Men are the prize not women but the modern womanwants to be the prize and the umpire who sets the criteria for the prize…. It doesn’t work that way!!! That’s why you are all single and being shared around by the same set of married men because they are the only ones who will indulge your delusions because they know you are just short term and not life partners!!!

KanwuliaExtra:
Please, go back and read my responses to the OP.
I addressed the sexist post of another poster, not the OP.
Thanks!

DID YOU READ THIS CLASSIC MYSOGINIST BULLSHYTE BELOW?
That is what I responded to. . . .
What of the problem with "ARCHAIC MAN"?
Wetin consain 'modern woman' with 'archaic man'?
WHAT HAS THIS POST GOT TO DO WITH THE TOPIC OF THIS THREAD?

Next time don’t quote me. I didn’t respond to you or know you existed until you responded to me and I responded to what you said to me.

You don’t like what I have so say…move along, I didn’t start a conversation with you…..you jumped on to my post. Neither am I interested in reading your conversation with someone else that I was never a part of.

KanwuliaExtra:
I am not gonna stay here and indulge you with your 'supra-archaic and misogynist' views on human relatioships.
Please, you are derailing the thread.
Your views have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SUBJECT MATTER AT HAND.
Thanks!

It’s just a fact of life. The problem with many people is they are delusional.

We all love our parents. But when last did you visit your parents? I can bet you you would visit more often if your father was a billionaire! Case closed!!!

KanwuliaExtra:
One thing you forget is that no condition is permanent.

Your write up is so sexist it is offensive.
Let me remind you that a woman can remain single and live very long, unlike MEN who become abandoned in their OLD AGES. . . .especially if the men are broke. How many single old men can live by themselves. Oh yeah! A man’s best time is in his prime when he can change wives like his underwears DAILY. When they get old, they are abandoned by the “user-wives” only to end up worse than the women they scorned and abandoned.

Bottom line? In old age, the WOMEN HAVE THE LAST LAUGH. . . When the men are MOST VULNERABLE!✅

Life works in cycles. Just like I said pre 30 the woman has the upper hand and after that the man has the upper hand. However a successful man can never be alone unless he wants to be alone. If you are abandoned in your old age as a woman or a man it is because you have nothing to offer. Same for a man or woman who no one wants to marry.

As a man your job in life is to be successful, if you are successful you will get the best women and you will not be lonely in your old age.

Please dont come hear giving examples of lesser men, whose problems in life is their lack of success or failure to think ahead and plan for old age, they probably married a woman who settled for them because the type of men she wanted didn’t want a woman like her to begin with. Such women tend to abandon their average husbands once they have kids. The key here is the woman has gotten all she wants from you. In the same way as the job of a woman is to be needed as a wife, your job as a man is to be needed until you die.

Success has many fathers, failure is an orphan. Same principle applies to both sexes. Men and women need to be desirable to the opposite sex. For a man, the no1 criteria for desirability is success. For a woman it is youth, purity (low body count) and submissiveness. People who end up alone usually do because they don’t posses these qualities. The game has always been the same and always will be.

If you are youthful, able to give a man children and submissive, you will be able to choose the best men to marry….by best me. I mean not just successful but also good character. By definition the best men are good men with a conscience and good values. Such men will never abandon their wives come rain come sunshine. Similarly if you have done your job as a man and you are successful, Nobody is going to leave you …be it wife /wives, side chicks, children, friends associates. Everybody wants a piece of you!!! Nobody abandons success!!!!!! If you see a man abandoned chances are he is not successful or lost his fortune. It has nothing to do with you, even if you are the nicest man on earth, even your children won’t have your time if you have nothing to give them in your will!!!

Show me a man abandoned by his family or alone in his old age and I will show you a man with nothing to give.

TheGift:
Thirdly , too Men are to egotistic to handle modern Women who are more exposed than their idea of a traditional Woman.

Your post is exactly the problem of modern women. A successful man will ALWAYS find a wife. A successful woman with your attitude will likely never find a man to wife you and amid she does she will likely end up divorced.

The error in your thought process is this: when a man is successful ( and modern women want successful men). He doesn’t have to settle, so as a woman you fit in or you don’t marry….simple!!!

The problem with modern women is they think they are a prize…you are not. A woman is a only a prize when men are young and want to have sex. By the time a woman enters 30, the man is the prize. Do you ever hear men say they are looking for wife? It is always women looking for husband. The thing many women do not understand is this: women control sex but men control the relationship. A women determines if you have sex, the man determines if you become a wife. If you don’t satisfy the criteria for a woman, you don’t get sex, if you don’t satisfy the criteria for a man you do t become a wife.

By the time reality dawns on women with your attitude, they are not even an appealing option for even the B and C grade men.

The problem with a lot of mature single women is they carry the attitude of being pursued and pampered when they were young into adulthood not realizing the dynamics of the game has changed. By the time a woman is 30 she is the hunter not the hunted. Men know but a lot of women don’t quickly grasp this. By the time they realize (often post 40yrs) they are no men to hunt except losers…..all the men worth hunting are taken and to make matters worse they have less value even in the eyes of these sorts of men. By 40, a woman has lost 90% of her eggs, so why would a man who has delayed marriage and looking to start a family even consider a 40+ when there are loads of women below 35? If you are even going to take BS from a woman at least she needs to be able to give you children. Or else what is her value?

The reason why there is a delay on marriage and many singles is simple:

Christianity promotes monogamy, the are many men but few eligible men. The eligible men get married and Christian women turn to side chicks to the eligible men. The next caliber of men who are left do not want to marry another man’s side chick.

Secondly, the church does not counsel “modern” women properly about submissiveness, dangers of feminism etc and the role of women in the family and d society. So we end up with a lot of “modern” professionally successful Christian women who are not appealing to the few eligible men as wives and life partners. Instead the church encourages prayer and fasting without addressing the real issues….modern women are not attractive life partners.

Thirdly men increasingly delay marriage until they are financially stable and when they attain financial stability they go for young/younger women. Women also delay marriage because they want to pursue a career but unlike men by the time they are ready to settle down, their options are limited. Plus “modern” career women tend to be aggressive and less feminine. These traits may be required to succeed in many professions but these traits unattractive to men.

It really is that simple.

Badaru is truly a Tinubu loyalist!!

lexy2014:
That's not what I asked you.

Did you send an email to adebutu before you made this conclusion below?



Who will adebutu mobilise his supporters to vote for?

Go fork yourself!!! if after doing that you don’t have the answer then wait till feb25 and the answer will be revealed!!

lexy2014:
Did you send an email to adebutu before you made this conclusion below?



Who will adebutu mobilise his supporters to vote for?

Like I said mobilizing to rally is easy, getting them to vote for you is another matter

This is the disaster that befell the PDP In Abeokuta. Even the Chairman of the PDP Presidential Campaign Council was rebuffed by the crowd in a most embarrassing manner! The crowd simply said NO! to PDP. Watch👇👇 pic.twitter.com/jJN4iYdqZN

— Festus Keyamo, SAN, CON, FCIArb (UK) (@fkeyamo) January 20, 2023

ItooWorWor:
Without champions league

have you had a look at the table? Arsenal (18 games) are 14 points ahead of 5th place tottenham with a game in hand, 19 points ahead of Liverpool (18 games) and Chelsea (19 games) . No way are Arsenal not in the Cl next season.

gimakon:
Lol, I said it. I knew all you said was bent on one thing, hate for the igbo tribe. Well its fine, You can go. I had a hunch you would say these things.
I am not idle. Best of luck. Hope you #TeamAPC wont rig sha? We know mathematics now. 1+1 wont be equal to 7 this time.

Where is the hate? How can I a yoruba man be telling an Ibo man with authority how Ojukwu, Zik or Obi is really perceived among the Ibos? Does that not sound stupid and delusional to you? Here I am a yoruba man telling you how Obasanjo is perceived by yorubas and you have the audacity to think you k ow better than me.

Who is the delusional one here? Who is the one filled will tribal sentiments here? What did I say that necessitated you bringing the word hate in the discussion?

Anyway elections are round the corner. Jungle go mature!

gimakon:
Tinubu Betrayed Abiola also. History has it, he is a cousin to Abiola.

Shocked? Read here http://www.adabanijaglobal.com.ng/bola-tinubu-betrayed-mko-abiola-kola-abiola/
and here https://www.herald.ng/tinubu-betrayed-abiola-begged-abacha-for-post-in-1993-bode-george/

So if you put it that way, both of them are one of a kind.

Keep arguing with yourself. I am yoruba, you are clearly not. Yet you feel you can tell me about my people.

Life is not about facts but perception. I have told you how Obasanjo is perceived by the yorubas if you like continue to argue.

Obasanjo endorsement has no influence over any voter, certainly not in the SW. Even in his. Own polling booth he lost in 1999 and the candidate he endorsed in 2019 (Atiku) lost….go and verify!!

gimakon:
Age does not matter in building a nation to its glory. I am speaking about the present case of Politics , the remainder you speak about appears to be his private life. My take is, If he was able to speak in the regard of installing PO as president, i do not see a reason for you to hate him for that - This is what i mean. If you speak about his promiscuous nature , you should have a reason to, its totally up to you, you should have a reason for that.

This is what i mean and I am telling you.

Age matters especially in a country that does not teach history. If you are old enough to understand Obsanjo’s role in Awo’s defeat in 1979 and his role he played against Abiola you will know why Obasanjo is regarded as a traitor and has no influence of SW voters. The man lost his own polling booth in 1979.

He is an ex president, and ex head of state so he is accorded that status but be in no doubt, to yorubas he is a traitor!!!

He has no influence on SW voters!!!!!

gimakon:
i take it , many of you are hating on him because he decided to pick Obi. If he chose Tinubu, you would chant praises. I know your kind. But its fine, like you said, in your last paragraph, lemme be silent and be looking at you.

No! Obasanjo has no influence on anyone. Nobody is going to vote for Obi because Obasanjo endorsed Obi. Just as no one is going to say I am not voting for Tinubu or Atiku because Obasanjo did not endorse them.

Let us not forget Obasanjo is not a political force. He lost the election in the SW in 1999 including his own polling booth. and he only won in 2003 due to a combination of rigging and the endorsement of the real political actors in the SW. if Afenifere and AD did not endorse him in 2003 because they decided not to humiliate him, he would have lost the SW too in 2003.

I don’t know how old you are, if you know your history and If you are a yoruba but if you true yoruba man you will know Obasanjo has always been regarded as a bastard in yoruba land. The o ly reason he has any relevance is because he was a former head of state and a former president and yorubas culturally pay homage to elders. Politically (in terms of influencing voters) he has no influence…..did he not endorse Atiku in 2019?

As you can see, LP is no different from all the other parties.

gimakon:
Ashere titu.
You know the one way Tinubu day do asides druggie? See wetin you day talk.

My friend We are not talking about Tinubu here. Obasanjo spoke about having character and I said he is not qualified to talk about character. The day Tinubu talks about character you can drag Tinubu.

Obasanjo is not in a position to pontificate or lecture anyone about character.

hisgrace090:
This is to show that Obassnjo loves this country Nigeria.

A man who sleeps with his son’s wife, who sleeps with his friend’s wife talking about character?

Peter Obi or no Peter Obi, it is disgusting and obnoxious for you to be so fat and wear mini skirt. Nobody wants to see that shit

lexy2014:
Who will adebutu mobilise his supporters to vote for?

perhaps you should send an email to Adebutu to ask him. More importantly, mobilizing people to an event is a different thing from directing who they vote for