₦airaland Forum

lexy2014:
Who will adebutu mobilise his supporters to vote for?

tesppidd:
I tire oohh

So why do so many ignorant people make much Ado about a politician packing a stadium.

Imagine 20 thousand people out of 1.5 million adults in a state.

Naim dem dey make noise.

tesppidd:
I wonder why someone like Deji whom I thought is intelligent is joining to say such thrash.

What does it take to pack a stadium?

80 thousand people are enough to pack a stadium.
Most states have at least 1.5 million people between the ages of 17 and 55.

Any average politician can pack a stadium.


People who always brag about full stadiums are either mischievous or foolish.

nameo:
Lolz... Dallas na country

How can Dallas have "citizenship" in international law?

Are these the sorts of things Obi's opponents have "discovered" about him after months of searching for dirts on him?

Obi na man you be!!

Kayberg:
And such is a wicked woman.
If she had done that in the past before she got married, it would have been buried in the past.

But for a wife to do that to her husband is pure wickedness.
I do not believe in the Simpleton or Alpha Male thing, but that woman there is free to go live her life far away from me if I were her husband.

What kind of generation of marriage are you trying to build with this comment of yours?
A generation of infidels who have no regards for the oath of marriage?

siofra:
This is what a man should be like. He must protect his family and stand by his wife no matter what, like Joseph in the Bible did to Mary when she became pregnant out of wedlock.


A true christian man I stan!

Fujiyama:
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On a general note you are right. Taking on debt can create wealth - and it does. We see it in the private sector all the time. The public sector...not so much. Does the real world experience of developing countries (sub-saharan Africa in particular) support debt finance as a growth strategy?


the real world suggest that if you dont find a means of raising the revenues to develop your country you will fall behind. What is happenning to Nigeria is we have an aversion to borrowing, we borrow for consumption and we have an aversion for taxing the people or paying taxes. Something has to give and the result is what we are seeing poverty!!!! for instance you need to build roads, you cant spend 16 years building a 121km lagos ibadan road and expect to develop because you dont want to borrow or raise taxes, the world is NOT waiting for Nigeria...this is why we are falling behind


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True. Fair point. We all agree on this.



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Which raises the question: why didn't he build the refineries instead?

I am not Buhari. i cant answer for him. I go back to what the professor said "the problem in Nigeria is not so much corruption but the lack of intellectual capacity" perhaps he was so obsessed with citizen welfare that he didnt realise it is a penny wise pound foolish option..again a consequence of leadership that dont understand wealth and economics. This also goes back to the issue of capacity. Buhari is not a corrupt man even if those around him may be, it just highlights the need to have leaders who understand wealth, finance, development. that you dont steal does not mean those around you wont but more importantly it does not mean you will take the right economic decisions. Again it speaks to what the the lack of intellectual capacity amongst Nigerians both leaders and citizens who seem to think honesty equals competence.



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Again, we are all in agreement on this.



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These are very strong words for what is sensible, prudent behaviour. How is eliminating wastage such a bad thing? Are all the measures you listed mutually exclusive? Isn't it possible to cut waste, increase government revenue and borrow sensibly - all at the same time?

I have not said cutting waste is a bad thing. My point is misguided emphasis on cutting waste without emphasizing the real issue.....increasing revenues.



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I think at this point you need to post the exact comments made by Obi (I presume all these references are about him) on debt finance. It'll help me understand your argument more.

with sincerity and due respect I suggest you use google


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If you don't reform your public sector and build your institutions you will bleed out that $50b (and more) in no time. There are several studies on the opportunity cost of public sector reform. There are several studies on the true cost of public sector corruption in the 3rd world. They make the point far better than I ever could. Take a look at them.

Nigeria's problems are many. Quite frankly we are a lost cause! IMHO, the damage is too severe for any of the contestants. The mindset and orientation of the people is a far more serious impediment to development than leadership. The constitution is also a problem, you cant build something on nothing. For some reason (again poor mindset, intellectual deficiency) we seem to think can miraculously change our trajectory by changing leaders, but who are these leaders? Leaders emerge from a pool of people called the citizens, the same people with a poor mindset and intellectual deficiencies. If you pick the best fruit to represent your farm from a basket of spoilt or inferior fruit, chances are even the best is still an inferior product because you forget the basket is a basket of spoilt or inferior fruit. My comments are specifically on the issues of debt, revenue and wastage. Until we fix the fundamental issues plaguing us which i believe are the constitution and our orientation/mindset as a people, we wont make any progress. if our focus for generating funds is on cutting waste and reducing debt when the issue should be on increasing revenues

meobizy:
This must be a Gen Z thing. I don’t understand why this woman has no other speaking point, but this abortion matter. The BBNaija tag has finally gone to the dogs. All these kind doings go firmly secure the man-know-man aspect of contestant selection.

aujile:
I agree with your points but...
No matter how good they are, if you fail to cut cost, you may still find it difficult to come out of the problem. Year in year out, our budget is always the same (a recurrent budget). More money is being spent on things that don't bring returns.

Fujiyama:
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You are still repeating the error sir. As long as Bola Tinubu has never been president, then you cannot describe him as shown above. You may describe him as being the most knowledgeable (on finance etc.) of all the leading aspirants (a highly debatable assertion) but you cannot include past presidents in the comparison because he has never been president.



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Ok...I'm still trying to get what your point is...

I get the impression (correct me if I'm wrong) that you disagree with Peter Obi's decision to avoid debt. Do you believe his administration should have borrowed instead? And what kind of borrowing - local currency debt or foreign currency debt?

IbeOkehie:
Government investment almost always results in waste, corruption and inefficiency. Government can do nothing well.

So the best advice one can give to the next government is to give over the economy to the private sector and abolish all forms of price regulation, including forex regulation.

Thanks.

Fujiyama:
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Your statement is incorrect. He isn't president yet - and he may never be. Only time will tell.

Johnthejohn:
What does Tinubu know about budget

Curious345:
b4 we proceed .. are you chatting from Nigeria ?

Curious345:
Nigeria best leader ever . Rated next to Yar'adua..

He (Obasanjo) was good and he brought a good man to take over (Yar'adua)

Buhari is an error , yet he is bringing a vegetative Demented close to the grave balabluu to inherit his seat

What could be worse?

Alezy:
I understand what you're saying but worse come to worse there would be a run off. Because Tinubu will not get votes from the south (mark my words) the percentage he will get from the south will shock you. Forget these rallies my brother. He can also not defeat Atiku in the north.

You refer me once again to the last election where we have Buhari in the ballot and from a ruling party, how do you expect Atiku to win convincingly? Now it's an Atiku against A Tinubu in the north and you are projecting that Atiku wouldn't win states with wide margines?? Ha, you must really think so much about Tinubu.

If not that he is coming up using the ruling party, he won't even come out 3rd.

I am not still sure about Obi presence in the north but he will get votes that he needs from there in specific states.

He will win In the middle belt low margined or not but you see the SS/SE? Expect nothing less than a 80-90% victory.

Indispensable85:
Kano is fully Batified!
Ganduje is not playing.

Mynd44, oam4j, seun, nlfpmod

Alezy:
the only error you made in this your long data analysis is that you forgot all other elections happened when we had just 2 major parties contenting.

Now? We have 3. And the 3 people are from strategic areas who would want to vote for their own. You are still making the mistake using older election results to analyze what will happen. You are one of the many people this election results will shock.

* You think PMB is on the ballot. We're the whole north gave him their votes plus the sharing of middle belt and other zones.
* You still think the west who decided the 2015 election would be the decider
* You still think having block northern votes alone would win you the election of the whole of Nigeria.

1, If election rigging is minimized even to it's bearest minimum say 30%, those block votes will disappear.

2, Don't expect no block votes for any candidate from a region he isn't from. Which leave us with the middle belt deciding factor.

3, that north you're giving to APC. Atiku will shock you. OMG this election would be sweet. Northerners that I know would vote Tinubu as against Atiku?? I laugh�.

Note: it is only the northern christains that would wanna go sideways.

February isn't far

searchlight:
Lol you wasted lots of space to type crap, if you think that Tinubu will wing states like yobe, even Borno by 60 percent then you are still dreaming. Tinubu might not win any northern states apart from Borno state. Aside southwest Tinubu has no stronghold

searchlight:
We are not banking on northern votes for him to be president.

Northerners are too timid to buy the idea of Obi presidency, they have been willing tools used by wicked politicians to catapult themselves to power.

Obi doesn't give Shishi but some poor northern almajiri just need #500 to sell their vote, they know nothing about the economic or the problems bedevelling the ZOO, they are not sure of living tomorrow so they just have to eat.

Obi just have to win the south convincingly, get reasonable votes from the North Central, get some votes from christian states in the north East and get christian votes from the north west that's going to be enough.

Let the other thieves go share thier loots to almajiri, las last the votes will be shared among three candidates. Las las we will calculate.

correctguy101:
Then brother..

What should be done in this situation?

Alezy:
This is why Inec us projecting a rerun. From the look of things, everybody will win their zones. It's just unfortunate for Atiku cos kwankwaso will divide the norht with him. And then we have the northern christains and Igbo people.

Whoever middle belt votes massively for will win the election. And as it stands, PO has upper hand there

Mrkumareze:
He's a wealthy man, if na poor man he ll be released after one month, without apology .

PrinceOfLagos:
Anybody found to be corrupt should be picked up including Bola Tinubu