benjaminlawson:


You better stop this premitive argument, those people that are imposing this high fees, how much did they pay in their own time, was education not better than what we have now with high fees?

In their own time there were less than 10,000 students in total in all Nigerian universities. Today there are over 2 million. In their time there was an acute skills shortage post independence, today there is a surplus.

Go to the UK and make the same argument. universities were once free in the UK, not only free but you were paid £1,000 a term. Now tuition in the Uk is north of £10k a yr.

Look I am not going to argue with you lot. Continue with your substandard low fee university education. You get what you pay for, what you see at the end of your free or cheap education is your problem.

A Nigerian degree today is no more than a glorified school certificate for 90% of Nigerian graduates.

There is a girl who does POS near my office. She is a graduate from one mushroom state university. That is what you get for your cheap tuition. You will never see someone who paid millions for university tuition as a POS operator.

The 1st benefit of a good degree is that your mentality and mindset is different. Your opportunities are different, your contacts are different. Like I said elsewhere, if you are in a school where the children of the elite are not present, you are not in a good school. Children of the elite do not send their children to N45k public universities “elite” does not mean rich!

Look at the CEOs, of top companies, Banks top civil servants. politicians etc, they all know each other because they all went to the same schools and universities. That’s why their children get the best opportunities. This happened because back in the day children of the rich and poor went to the same schools. So even the child of the poor could get the contacts and break into the circle. Children of Nigeria’s President, Vice President, ministers, governors, corporate titans etc sat alongside children of bricklayers in our public schools and universities.

But people like you started necessary protesting fee increases and the elite (knowing the value of good education being recipients themselves) started withdrawing their children from these public schools. So now these schools are only attended by children of the poor. They get substandard education and are not able to acquire valuable life long contacts and connections. Furthermore because o children of important people attend these universities, nobody cares about the standards. The end result is they remain permanently underclass despite supposedly having degrees.

The problem with the masses is they think poor. In the end they pay the price ( we all do but the masses pay a higher price). Same thing with fuel subsidy, electricity and education. We protested fuel and electricity subsidy removal to the point where there are no roads or mass transport like rail, we resisted electricity subsidy removal to the point there is no electricity and you pay more for diesel and petrol generators and now you resisted fee hikes to the point where the education you get has no value.

In the last election every candidate agreed fuel subsidies must go because we all finally realized after years of subsidies there are no roads to enjoy the subsidies because we spent the money for roads on subsidies. Like fuel and electricity subsidies, when you realize that the education you are getting is worthless, nobody will beg you to ask for fees to reflect the true cost of good education. Eventually you will all realize that even N450k is too cheap if you really want good degrees. Eventually you will realize university is not for everyone.

Villa12:
direct that question to your corrupt leaders that has stolen the future of Nigerians up to their unborn kids. They're in the better position to answer that question not you and i.

A dimwits is better than a Nitwits and a fool that always asslick and exonerate corrupt leaders thereby, putting all blames on the masses.

You are deflecting from the point. How many of the 400,000 graduates that we produce every year do you know, talk less of how many do you know that have decent jobs? The majority are drivers, sales girls and boys, receptionists, bank tellers or unemployed because they are graduates with degrees that have no value in the market place.


Continue with your emotional arguments just like you did with fuel subsidy and electricity subsidy. Fuel subsidy gave you bad roads, electricity subsidy gave you no electricity and university subsidy has given you bad unemployable graduates.

FACT:
1) you pay peanuts, you get peanuts.
2) Education is not free. You either pay in form of taxes or you pay in form of fees. The more taxes or fees you pay the better your education and the less the poorer your education.


You want to go to Lagos from Abuja and you get on a bus to Kano and we are telling you this bus will never take you to Lagos. Instead you start to argue and curse. When you finish arguing and cursing everybody. Your situation and the fact stil remains the same….the bus you entered is going to Kano not Lagos! If you like you get off the bus now, if you like you wait till you get to Kano. Abuse everybody and their father, Either way that bus is not taking you to Lagos!! So if you like think those who are paying huge fees are fools, after 4 years in University you will realize all your 45k university tuition can get you is a 45k job, if you are lucky.

Keep arguing with yourself.

Villa12:
you're not only being emotional but hyperventilating. You're absolutely wrong @bolded. There are tons of graduates that paid much more ess than that amount that i personally know and heard series of stories and today, they're working in good places in Nigeria and outside the country. Those with good solid results got full/partial funding scholarship to US, Canada, UK, Australia et al for their masters and PhD and today they're all doing pretty fine helping their families and loved ones. Yes, the same cheap or almost free education that you claimed is worthless. Mind you, all these are not only attributed to medical field, they cut across all fields. If you know where that cheap education had taken Nigerians to in life, you wouldn't put up that statements. There are countries with free tuition fee. What about that?

You cannot put the blame on the masses and exonerate your corrupt leaders. Like i told you what is the minimum wage of those countries paying huge compare to ours? Even a toddler in Nigeria knows that they don't have leaders. When Nigerians are ready they will do the needful starting from that outdated Constitution we're using. You see those political offices starting from the presidency to the least will be on part time basis and will attract peanut pay just like they place Nigerians on meagre minimum wage. Let those who truly want to serve get there and they can only do one term. Any political office holder found wanting of stealing will be killed immediately. Do this for just ten years and watch if sanity will not be restored back to Nigeria.

Nigeria produces 400,000 graduates every year. How many do you know that got good jobs?

Look my friend continue to pay N45k. I don’t have time to argue with dimwits.

Whatever you see you see.

Villa12:
LoL

Too cheap in a country with 30k minimum wage? Too cheap in a country with high rate of unemployment? Too cheap in a country that top the ladder of poverty? Too cheap in a country whose leaders top the ladder of highest paid in the world? Too cheap in a country whose citizens cannot afford to feed? Too cheap in a country with poor power supply? Too cheap in a country with corrupt leaders? I can always go on and on

Like I said it is too cheap. You are straying off topic making emotional arguments. That’s why we are producing graduates are unemployable. No point going to university to get a degree that has no value. If you cannot afford it, go and learn a vocation.

You may not like what I am saying but I am speaking the truth. Most of the students with degrees from 50k -100k universities will never ever get a job with those degrees because most are worthless.

If your university charges cheap fees, they can’t afford the best or even good lecturers, if they can’t employ the best lecturers, they cannot give the best teaching to the students l. If students are not taught by good lecturers, they can’t get good degrees.

If you want to discuss how someone on 30k can afford university fees in the millions, that is a seperate subject. But if you are playing cheap fees you are getting worthless degrees. Some universities charge N50m a year or more for tuition and you think you are getting the same quality of education for your N100k? You think the people paying N50m a year abroad are fools? You are the same ones that will complain that they get the best jobs. I am not saying fees in public universities should be N50m but ideally no good university in Nigeria private or public should charge less that 2-5m.

God1000:
This is too much, many families cannot afford it, people are struggling to eat and our universities are busy increasing school fees

If you think 450,000 is too much for fees, you don’t deserve university education.

University is not for everybody, it is for those who know the value and won’t waste their time there.

People who know the value of a good degree from a good university know N450,000 is too cheap.

Yorubaponu:


Shut up , We Yoruba want our own Country

You are so insecure you disguise as other tribes

Yorubaponu:


Yoruba are born slave , don’t say it outside o

We know your tactics. Everybody knows you are the masters of propaganda and spreading falsehoods.

alanto:
Obidients just dey avoid the thread. Ibos hate anything Dangote but they want people to fly Air Peace. Lol

We will fly Air peace because flying Air Peace is good for Nigeria but we will remember them when it is time for elections.

PressMyButton:
Yoruba nation, Ipob, are in hot soup.

again, you see the difference between ibos and Yoruba. Wheras ibos, their elders their elites are all cowering to Kanu, elevating him to the status of the defacto leader of the Ibos, yorubas are quick to dissociate themselves from these clowns and say unequivocally not in our name.

Tomorrow ibos will say they want to be, in fact demand that it is their turn to be the president of a country whose secession from they directly or indirectly endorse.

zoraro:



You still are not getting the point. Let me educate you, then. The point is that, there are no stupid or dumb questions and besides, you might get a new insight to a question when you see other people's answer. You get?
Also, a wrong answer could be a clue to getting the right answer for an informed person. I am not sure if that will make sense to an ITK (I too know) person, though.

you are clearly dumb and do not know the difference or the point.

You are asking a factual question not for opinions. There is a place to get a factual answer…the source.

You ask a question that requires a factual answer from a pool made up of largely uninformed people you will get what you deserve.

That you don’t know the difference and continue to argue shows which category of nairalanders you belong….the dumb 95%!!

The difference between the Yorubas and the Ibos is that the Yorubas have come out to say unequivocally “not in our name”….you are on your own. Yorubas have said you don’t speak for us. Even if there is desire for secession (there isn’t one), we refuse to be led by a miscreant and won’t even allow the thought that she speaks for or represents Yorubas to fester for a minute.

Whereas the Ibos have allowed themselves to be led by an imbecil3 to the point where all their leaders defer to him, visit him to pay solidarity and homage and effectively turned him into a demi god.. That’s why it is difficult to have an Ibo president. It is one thing to cal for restructuring, it’s another to call for secession. You can’t support secession and then tommorow want to be president and think others will vote for you. This is simple common sense that somehow seems to elude our brothers from the east.

I don’t know why we feel that you must sponsor a bill as a senator. That’s not the only job of a senator. This is what leads to frivolous laws and the creation of multiple overlapping agencies.

zoraro:


Your mindset is totally wrong. Is nairaland not a part of the internet, go to websites like quora and reddit, etc. they ask even more ridiculous questions there and answers are given.

1.Nairaland is full of dumb or equally ignorant people (95%)
2. The effort made in asking dumb people by the equally dumb is better spent visiting the appropriate disco’s website or the NERC website.
3.like I said, Nairaland is full of dumb people. The kind of people that ask dumb people for things they can find out themselves.

The point is as a supposedly educated person, your first point of call if you require official information is the official source itself. If you do not know that, then your education has been a waste because the purpose of education is to train you to think.

Your point that it is okay to ask a pool of dumb people on the internet questions because somewhere among them you may get the correct answer is a very dumb concept. Why? Because you don’t know how accurate the info you are getting is. Why not use your education and what little initiative you have and go to the source of authentic information?

You are not asking for opinions like marital advice etc, you are asking for factual information from a bunch of largely uninformed people? Does that make sense to you?

PriceActionZ:
These are parts of what fg supposed use to educate her customers and forced DISCOs to create a portal and publicize it to educate them on which band they belong to. Or better still, when you pay on any portal, part of the token supposed carry a code that shows your band before the main recharge numbers. But since everything about this country is fraudulent, and not transparent, it will be very hard to accomplish. The discos won't want to do that because someone who supposed be in band A will work himself or herself to band Z, while enjoying stable lights and someone that hardly gets 10 hours of light will be forced to pay for band A. That is the kind of country we are.

It is difficult to educate the poorly educated and the uneducatable. You have access to the internet but the 1st place you go to is Nairaland?

Every disco has the list of bands on their website. It’s part of the law and they have all complied. If The OP and typical nairalanders had any brains that would have been their first port of call.

That is the kind of citizens we are. Dumb!!

Jayhome24:
Timberland did

mightyhazel:
lol

Timberland got his name from this shoe



Not the other way

I am sure you are both referring to Timbaland

badboyTee:
Let's see the Old men on Nairaland who know history....

2 pac, ice cube, and missy elliot come to mind.

Fash20:


I was skeptical at first when I saw countries like Saudi and China. Those who are known to give loans. Thanks for the correction

If the OP had stopped to engage his brain or had any knowledge of the subject matter, he would have realized that something was amiss because a country like the Cayman Islands with a paltry GDP of $6B cannot be owning the US $260b. At current interest rates, the interest alone is more than twice their entire GDP. America will never let a country with a GDP of $6B owe then $260B!

God1000:
Hmm, so china is owing US this much and not the other way round.

Well, this will finally address the debate and misconception

Fash20:
The US basically own these economies apart from China. The US is rich. How many countries can loan this kind of money out.

It’s the other way round. This is a list of countries that the US owes money ( I.e countries that bought Us treasuries. Aka debt) not countries that owe the US.

@God1000, This is what happens when ignoramuses just do copy and paste articles from the internet and are unable to spot the errors in the articles because they themselves have no knowledge of the subject matter. It is the the US that owes these countries not the other way round.

You “own” a debt is different from “owe” a debt. It helps to understand English. The US owes the debt, these countries own the debt.

The US is basically the worlds biggest debtor but they get away with it because they are the worlds reserve currency and they simply print more money. This is what the BRICS are trying to challenge.

korm2me:

Then what is Wike doing in this government.?Oh he rigged Rivers for APC

Jesus wept! How daft are you people?

Yankee101:
I’m disappointed in Akpabio, he’ll further damage tinubu’s already bad reputation
It’s clear now that stealing is not only north
Infact the stealing for south no get example

I don’t know who is more daft, Atiku or people like you. There is no padding, the 3 trillion is accounted for and belongs to bodies like judiciary, INEc, National Assembly,TETFUND, etc, whose budgets are statutory 1st line charges and guaranteed by the constitution. There is a reason members f the same PDP stood up and supported the suspension of NIngi. In my view when I read posts like yours I now feels Jimoh Ibrahim was right and the suspension should have been 12 months.

Some people need to think before they even talk. What is the entire budget of the country that you can pad it with 3T?

OGHENAOGIE:
only in a parliamentary system opposition isn't appionted.. in a presidential system opposition member can be appionted... Bola ige AD then became attorney general under Obj govt who was PDP.. wike PDP is fct minister...

What is the point of your post? APC have said no more appointing Obidients. Go to court and tell the judge the nonsense you posted above.

Gustavowhite:
Thank you
Let’s agree it’s about obidient,can you mention like 10 Igbo/south south each in tinubu’s Government ?

Are you daft? Actually you don’t have any brains so I guess that was a daft question on my part. Correction: you are daft! If you do not know that there are more than10 agencies that constitutionally must have ss/Se representation then your case is worse that not having a brain.

To begin with every state has at least 1 minister by law. SE has 5 SS has 7. That alone is 12. If you are talking specifically about ministers, no zone has 10 ministers except the NW, not even the SW. In addition there are special advisers, board members, DG etc. To find another 8 is not hard. You really are daft! Think and summon the strength to engage your brain before you post…try it, it won’t kill you.

lexy2014:


that is not what I asked you.

what of 'Bosun Tijani? who did he put in power?

You lack English comprehension. Like the minister of education said recently, there is an epidemic of educated people who read but do not comprehend what they read. You can recognize them because they ask questions to subjects that have already been answered in what they read. Added to the fact that you are an established dull3rd!

You are the kind of person that will see 2 sets of 2 apples each and will fail to understand that there are 4 apples in front of you and will keep saying You can only see 2 apples here and 2 apples there so how can it be 4? Your post history shows that even if we count the apples one by one you will still be arguing that no it is 2 here and 2 there.

Osinbajo supporters, the only people that surpass you in dullness are Obidients. Redeemed has killed your brains, Obidients never had any to begin with.

Gustavowhite:
if I read this nonsense you scribbled above make I know wetin cause am

Na turn by turn,let tinubu fill all positions with his Yoruba people

It is not about yoruba, it is about Obidients. But the truth has never been your portion in life. You prefer the tribal narrative because it suits your agenda. If it is down to tribe you have no business seeking appointment because you voted 99% for your tribesman. Why do you seek appointment from a man and a govt you insulted and continue to insult so much?

If you had any principles you would reject any offers.

2027 is only 3 yrs away….try again and then you can appoint anyone you want to appoint.

Gustavowhite:
Bigot Tunubu withdrew because she is Igbo
And some Lagos boys were telling us that tinubu isn’t a tribalist,very old tribalist
Good thing is that you can’t be there forever

Abeg they should just bring back buhari,this Yoruba man is worse than Fulani and we thought fulanis hate Igbo more than Yoruba

99% people, we have heard. He is a tribalist, go and win your own election and appoint who you want.

Vote you no vote, you lost and are insulting up and down like you did during Buhari regime now you are omplaining when they blank you.

Shey you say you are Obidients? Go and prepare for 2027 and you can appoint who you want. The door is now shut.

Bear in mind the 2 most powerful ministers are Umahi and Wike. Umahi is Ibo and Wike is PDP.

Nothing will ever satisfy you ingrates, that is why Buhari didn’t bother and just ignored you. It is time Tinubu learnt to just shut the door and do his own thing because whatever he does you will still complain and abuse, yet you voted 99% against him. I don’t know how a tribe that voted 99% for their own incompetent tribesman can have the audacity to call anyone a tribalist. People that collected campaign vehicles and only distributed to Ibos.

For the record (for those who have sense) Tinubu made the appointment. His party men said no (just like Ambode’s case) enough is enough. There are already rumblings amongst the party that too many outsiders are being appointed and those who worked for victory of the posrtu are being sidelined. A leader does not go against the wishes of his followers because it is his followers that make him what he is. So appointment withdrawn.

lexy2014:


what of 'Bosun Tijani? who did he put in power?

I know you are daft. We have established this a long time ago. I didn’t know you also lack basic English comprehension.

Read again: Tijani apologized publicly in the senate and asked for forgiveness. I stated clearly, the hand was extended to the opposition, people like Tijani accepted apologized and asked for forgiveness blaming it on the exuberance of youth. Meanwhile others are still in campaign mode 10yrs after election, constantly insulting the govt. so the hand of fellowship has been withdrawn. No sensible political party will extend thee hand of fellowship to ingrates when those who worked for its victory are out in the cold.

If the Obidients don’t appreciate the gesture, they can wait to win their own election. Nobody abandons his own for ungrateful outsiders. And that includes Osinbajo supporters like you.

Only a foolish govt will appoint Obote people who will be sabotaging the govt from within.

Bankowner:
What crime has she committed by collecting money from a man after the pitiful display by her husband? Very quiet transaction, no noise. You should be thankful that she's not the kind of woman who will give the man fire for fire and show him better craze in the same public that will make him shiver

I don drop mic.

The more you post the more you show the failure of your parents. Let your mic stay dropped to preserve whatever dignity of reputation is left of your family….if any!

Kaybeth:
What happened to "join us, let's make Nigeria better". Is this not what they often say to the opposition?

They said it you refused to join hands, you kept on insulting, everyday cursing…so they said ok wait for next election, if you win you can appoint your people. This govt is for those who put them in power.

naijapips02:
What about the Yoruba minister that supported Peter obi?

He apologized publicly and asked for forgiveness.

FLYFIRE:
Isn't it better to not have stained her good reputation being in same boat with eBola Sniff-powder. God works in wonderful ways

She has already stained it by not rejecting the appointment.