₦airaland Forum

kramer

Screw the rest this is the one!! God please oo.. i musta hammer by fire by force

@^ The house is Islamic/Maghreb(architecture) inspired kind of house. Most of the house may not necessarily be very expensive. The owners of the houses are just imaginative/creative. They did things their own way and not follow the crowd as most Nigerians do. They let their "desire" and imagination/creativity to flourish and be interpreted architecturally by clever use of space and decor. Nigerians are conformists/conservative- Follow- Follow mentality .

kramer

Screw the rest this is the one!! God please oo.. i musta hammer by fire by force

@^ The house is Islamic/Maghreb(architecture) inspired kind of house. Most of the house may not necessarily be very expensive. The owners of the houses are just imaginative/creative. They did things their own way and not follow the crowd as most Nigerians do. They let their "desire" and imagination/creativity to flourish and be interpreted architecturally by clever use of space and decor. Nigerians are conformists/conservative- Follow- Follow mentality .

torhuke

No one is celebrating mediocrity. Naw tell me who can perform d magic of revitalising our rail system wt d wand u xpect. Dat can only be @ d xpense of other aspects of d economy and Infrastructure. All of u here playing holier dan thou, memebers of ur immediate and Xtended family contributed 2 ds in one way or the other. U celebrate rubish in d midst of plenty wen dat rubish is somtin compared 2 the no rubish @ all. The economics say therz room 4 improvement. U people shuld stop ranting like d mad man who complaind dat GEJ hs done notyn becos he did not put air condition on d streets..

@^^Bros, Why do you ask "who can perform d magic of revitalising our rail system with d wand u xpect"? Well in that question lies our national malaise as a people. So you elect/appoint so called leaders/ office holders of various portfolios with accompanying "budget" to match/ execute projects and you sincerely do not expect/demand of them to perform/"magic"? Na wao . Why do you blame the "victims" of bad governance using pseudo-intellectual excuses that "we" inadvertently contributed to the general degeneracy pervasive in Nigeria?. That, the economist magazine/writer said "therz is room 4 improvement" after actually condemning the rail transport/quality of ride etc, you actually took it as a compliment and perhaps we should tolerate very low quality/service as ok because in your view we are complaining because some of us desire/ want GEJ to "put air condition on d streets". Na waooo for you!. Hmmmm you are entitled to your opinion. That is the beauty of democracy Nigerian style and indeed everywhere .

seyi42k

This article is been eulogised now, I hope tomorrow when this same outfit brings up another unfavourable report you people will not turn back on them and start saying western agenda.

A Nigerian travelled from Kano to Lagos with horrible experiences and even interviewed other passengers and also took pictures. People are castigating him for telling us his experience and for saying it as he saw it. They are telling him to rejoice that he was even able to take a train at all. Well, why won't we tell him to rejoice, after all our nation has been trying to produce 6,000 mw of electricity, that Heathrow airport uses daily, all these years without much success after sinking billions of dollars.

Our collective psyche has been bullied into submission and that is why we will continue to manage and hail mediocrity. It was when my well-travelled bosses told me that Khartoum in Sudan (a desert mind you & at war) is far ahead of any city in Nigeria, that is when I knew we have celebrated this mediocrity for too long.

Gbam!+1000. I can confirm your bosses' observation. Mediocrity and general lack of quality in many spheres of our life in Nigeria has damaged our collective psyche indeed. Anywhere corrosive Corruption is as pervasive and natural as it is in Nigeria, taken for granted/accepted, you are bound to expect a people coerced to celebrate/accept rubbish in the midst of plenty. The amount of money used to rehabilitate the rail is actually less than the unaccounted so called "security vote" of our erstwhile Governors let alone that of the Presidency. The food budget is even larger than the rail rehab . Some of us may say half bread is better than none but that is not good enough in this day and age. . We must get a grip and see things in the right perspective not instinctively rejoice like demented freed prisoners and condemn those who refuse to accept mediocrity in whatever guise as the norm/standard.

BEDMON1900

KESHI DOUBLE CHAMPION...TUNISIA 94 AND SA 13...BUT LETS INVITE ALABA OF BAYERNMUNICH B4 HE GOT HIMSELF NATIONALISED IN GERMANY

@^^ He is already playing for Austria.

Ileke-IdI

Is the game that serious?

@^^ Yes! it's that Serious because the "BlackStars" lost not even third place

OP

What's so special about holding/vying for public office in Nigeria? Are our current crop of public office holders any better or more patriotic than any other Nigerian? Do not underestimate yourselves. Anyone can Rule Naija certificate or not.

pazienza

Mr,wake up, this is the year of our lord 2013 AD,this is not 1966. Things have changed since then,you would be suprised by just how much they have.

@Bro, I don't have the strength to argue let alone rehash my thoughts for your benefit since you seem to not understand my stance/opinion on this matter if any. I suggest you re-read your own earlier opinion that the Igbo should look at the bigger picture/hidden agenda behind the Op/mischievous propaganda.. Perhaps,Onlytruth spelt it out better for you to understand what I wrote. There is no need for haughtiness but serious reflection and preparation for the "fire" "Next Time". Perhaps it has not dawned on you that Nigerians of every hue Hate each other for reasons they cannot explain to you and I. Nigerians trot out all manner of spurious reasons/prejudice to justify their inherent dislike/hate for their neighbours. Sincerely, I do not understand why some Nigerians masochistically wish for One Nigeria whereas they inherently dislike/hate their so called compatriots passionately. Why the pretences and ill will which actually undermines whatever "nationhood" desires some of us foolishly proclaim as if nations are built on mere wish and loud proclamation alone . We are not serious as a people in the project of constructing/building a "Nation"out of a mere shell/country called Nigeria as it is now. Are you not tired of the usual complaints/negativities inherent in the country? It is burdensome and exhausting. Nobody has given me any convincing reasons for us to be together yet I cannot count on any form of protection or sincerity of friendship/love from our fellow Nigerians either. We seem to be energised/animated whenever the opportunity to discredit or "PHD" fellow citizens appears. It is almost an automatic/instinctive reflex. I tire oo. I have woken up longtime ago and perhaps ever ready/prepared for any eventualities than you think .

aribisala0

If his intention is to favour his people then he is scoring an own goal
Certainly other Nigerians will think: You are not President and you behave this way what will happen when you become President.We are watching

@^^ You'll be surprised to know that everything pertaining to military promotions of certain "ranks"/personnel are actually scrutinised and approved by the President that wants his quasi surrogate "kinsmen" to protect and defend him. The national purse strings is wholly controlled by Dieziani, and other strategic positions are distributed amongst his cohorts et al . It may appear shocking to some of us now but it has always been the naija way . Our history is not pretty. The sad thing about it is- Ndi Igbo have allowed themselves to be "used"/fronted again in "projects" they do not fully understand besides short term "gains" . Perhaps the End game is coming to pass keeping in mind the meddling sardonic CIA forecast/report(2015) .

aribisalaO

I have never ever heard this sort of disgruntlement being aired by the Nigerian Army and it should not be ignored.If this is said in public then surely a lot worse is being said in private. The consequences of ignoring this will be catastrophic.Much as i do not support GEJ I do not wish to see him come to harm.This is one area where he needs good advice and needs to keep his eye on the ball.

@^^ Good advice and keeping his eye on the ball You are truly an optimist/hopeful that Lucky Joe listens or is accessible to "good" men other than E. Clarke/"Freedom fighters. It is not within their realm of comprehension nor in keeping to their "lootocratic" agenda. It is our natural Naija way of doing things ever since the military incursion in "Governance" .

okpara ugo

GO AND MARRY

STOP READING MILLS AND BOON.

@^^ you go kill person

Sagamite

If I hear Toolz is engaged too anytime in the next few months, na emergency ward una go hear I dey.

@^^ God forbid bad thing! I beg you go survive The bobo hand they travel well well . See as he hold the..... tight.

tpia@

most of them knew their origins [eg herbert macauley], but they could not settle there because the home environments were not conducive to their return. So they settled majorly in lagos.

@^^ You have given a plausible reply but not exactly convincing as per his origin/his "home environments were not conducive to their return"- perhaps he should leave being a missionary sent from Sieraa Leone and become a posh Hotelier ha ha . Most of them could not settle in the hinterland because they are not sure of their origins hence they remained where ever they were dumped/settled along the West African coastline to South Africa .

la furia

dont even know how to respond to the op question because it is weird. losing identity to the arabs because am bearing ibrahim? seriously. how does bearing ibrahim change my appearance to arab. no one has ever asked me if i was arab but are you a muslim question. op displays same ignorance as the americans who belief arab means muslim.

am hausa, and the only way to prove it is to speak hausa, simple, no need for long explanation. have you ever meet a real arab man speak yoruba? so y should people doubt whether u are yoruba or not when u can speak d yoruba lang. so when u speak yoruba, they still believe u are arab because of ypur first name? wonders shall never end.

u should ask y are the yoruba losing dia cultures to islam instead. do u have a problem with arabic or arabs? which one.

@^^ Your logic may be correct but the OP is right in the sense that Islam and Christianity are inherently depriving some of our people the opportunity to appreciate their original home grown culture predating the "cultural conquest" by "foreign" faiths/names Hausa, Yoruba, Igbo or not. The Hausa obviously have lost much of their culture unlike the Fulani and Kanuri. The dominant culture/values holds sway over the conquered subjects everywhere hence English/European names and Islamic inspired names predominate in our domain. In order to understand the full import of the OP's viewpoint - visit Sudan and notice how they(Islamist) tried to impose such names on their none muslim citizens hence the added grouse against the Khartoum regime by numerous secessionist groups. The South Sudan have gone already July 09/12, Dafur and the Nubians are not exactly happy in Egypt and Sudan either .. Nigerians despite our gra gra and noisy characteristics are inherently Docile and compliant to anything foreign.

tpia@

Hausas typically have exclusively arab names but thats because they are mixed with arab and are considered araboid.

@^^ Hausas except a few of them in Southern Zaria were totally conquered/ converted to Islam and most of them are not mixed with Arabs but Fulani. Even Sudan is not very mixed up racially but religiously they are 97% Islam.

Okija juju

Persians (Arabs) own Islam & Jews own Christianity.

@^^ Persians are not Arabs . their original faiths/religions- Bahaism, Zoroastrianism and others but Islam is an "acquired"/imported faith in Persia(Iran) hence some very fundamentalist Iranians are against "Islam"=Arab" faith and influence in what they see as against their "high" and older civiisation .

justaqad

*standing ovation*

@^^ Gbam! Trust me aribisalaO is a fantastic guy [b][/b]. His logic/posts on NL are usually very interesting and irreproachable.

[bmaclatunji[/b]

I guess by your logic, Herbert Macaulay and Henry Carr stopped being Yoruba men because of their English names.

@^^ You may be right but there are no conclusive evidence that they are Yoruba/Nigerian either. They were returnee ex slaves via Sierra- Leone to NIgeria as missionaries. Most returnee ex slave immigrants tried a little too hard to ingratiate themselves with the "Locals" by making spurious claims about their identities/origins just like our later day "Africans" in diaspora(North & South America) . Only DNA can prove their origins conclusively- perhaps .

onila

I FEEL BAD FOR IVORY COAST!!

@^^ Indeed! You should. You have been eyeing their men for sometime now without success perhaps . Try harder!

Codedrock

But why is no yoruba guy on the field? Shey we no fit play ni? Na only igbo guys... Haba!

@^^ So football is about tribe now? Where is Moses from then? Na wao for you/Nigerians who refuse to see beyond their "nose" . Why can't you be happy?

Tolexander

Those races i mentioned above are different people with different cultures, geographical locations, mentality and melanocyte proportion. Still they belive in one USA.

@^^ Your USA history lesson sounds very plausible but you forgot to add that Nation[/b]do not just happen based on [b]Wishful thinking. Nation states spring/happen- they are defined,articulated,informed, constructed and infact most times fought for it to come into existence hence you are able to see USA and the rest of Western Europe as Nation states without self reflection over your ill informed assumptions about USA. Knowledge is good but half baked knowledge is atrocious/dangerous perhaps in your desirable optimism you overlooked the importance of national ideology and War in the creation of a true Nation since we have deliberately refused to acknowledge our differences etc in our Nigerian domain. We glibly and foolishly wish our history away while the USA you admire have actively used her concocted history to inspire and generate an almost "psychopathic" frenzy and loyalty in her citizens. Such nationalistic zeal/belief in Nation is man-made by intelligent ideologues/minds of every hue in a given society. That is the job of serious Intellectuals who construct/articulate the "Nation" building mission in any serious place the world over. Please look around you and study harder and reflect further on your historical knowledge and lessons. We learn everyday and we can never be too old to learn. Every history or story in our domain cannot be wished away because Nigerian do not want to confront their inherent "demons"- Tribalism,Wickedness, Laziness/lack of serious intellectual rigour, Gullibility and general Poverty of spirit which translates into lack of Empathy for the "Other" yet we wish for "ONE" Nigeria as "Nation" instead of a mere country. We find it very difficult to acknowledge our inherent prejudice/hate for each other especially if the other is of a different "Tribe" or town/place. We have to be serious and Purposeful as a people in order to create a Nation out of the numerous(over 300) ethnic nationalities. Do we really have Men and Women with Vision and Big Ideas in our domain never mind those we foolishly ascribe the word "intellectual" to in the Nigerian domain? USA is a Nation firstly Articulated, Envisioned, Constructed and Ideology Forcefully implemented by Serious dispassionate ideologues of Anglo-Saxon race over the "Weaker" races around them. That is the USA world you and perhaps me too admire. That's how Nations come into being and not by denial of national "history"/stories that may have some redemptive/therapeutic impact on our "sick" and delusional country.

babyosisi

Is it current?
Are we sure?
They should have him on video tape sending new year greetings to the good people of Enugu state
That is the only way to satisfy skeptics like moi
I don't trust politicians lai lai

@^^ I think you are a smart person but don't you think that your skepticism is a bit too much . Take a cursory look of the road to notice the recent heavy snowfall around them perhaps that will convince you. You may be right especially in photo trick "computer" times we live in .

talknafree

Now I am beginning to see clearly that jonathan's increase in Oil price goes far beyond the subsidy and government improving the lives of Nigerians crap he was spreading.

Now I can see exactly what Jonathan is up to. He probably wants Nigeria to collapse leaving the North and West standing solely, while probably the South east is merged with the South-South. The continuous attacks by Boko haram in the North on Christians is just to bring division amongst even the very same people of the North and those of the West.

I think he probably have promised the South-South and South-Eastern governors that the chunk of the 'secret' money removed from oil subsidy will be to develop the region. Dieazi and Okonjo both are from the South-south and South-Eastern region respectively and the were the arrow heads of that policy. Sanusi only was used to speak on the Economy benefits to Nigerians.

I SMELL A CIVIL WAR!!!

@^^^ Your imagination is very colourful and very fertile indeed. There is oil also in the South West(Ondo and Lagos states). I guess there is oil in the Lake Chad Basin and Perhaps Sokoto axis too. There will be no War if gullible Nigerians from the South West/the rest of the South decide to go their separate ways. Who will be doing the fighting? What justification will the "potential" war fighters have to engage in such futile and self destructive enterprise. Presently Nigeria cannot contain/defeat small but effective insurgents in the North/South of the country let alone being able to contain a potential restive Southern collective. War is not easy or a dancing jamboree bro. Easy with your rich imagination . Nevertheless you may get your wish. I hope not for your sake . Presently, the most "patriotic" Nigerians are our "looters" of our common wealth/patrimony hence the shrill voices we hear from them occasionally. They have an investment/intrinsic reflex to protect "sickly" Nigeria as it is, because the bulk of their wealth/loot is from the inherent chaos perversive everywhere in the country, There is power and "Wealth" in Chaos for a small band of crooks ruling collective Nigeria as it is.

Karl max

I also observed that their was no burning and looting!! I also observed that they were moving in an organized manner and[b] were not disturbing other people going about their normal busisness and I can't Ơ̴̴͡.̮Ơ̴̴̴͡ any road block and extortion going on on the federal roads even state roads and of course no body is smoking indian hemp aka EGBO aka MARY J aka abu saidi at the rally or was it mentioned on the[/b] op

@^^ Bro you are correct! The highlighted ^ is one of several reasons that "Peaceful" protests in the South West zone consistently Fail and is usually perceived as Rowdy, Violent, Incoherent and quickly degenerate into self destructive activities e.g. the negative preponderance of "Area Boys" activities during the Oil subsidy/Occupy NIgeria protests. It is no wonder soldiers and " Mopol" are usually deployed quickly by so called "leaders" who will rationalise their backward "politics" on spurious mundane but "plausible" reasons to "Act" for our "Public"/National good .

birdman

I agree "positively cautious" is good way to approach the situation for sure. By the way, I would prefer stronger intra west african trade as our primary means of foreign investment over east or west, but I guess that really isnt practical yet.

@^^ Bro, you are correct but I must remind you that the ECOWAS treaty/protocol demands free movement of trade/movement across borders. Unfortunately, Nigeria somehow contrived to violate it on a daily basis. I hope you remembered that even Jerry Rawlings of Ghana actually complained about our general/constant violation of the spirit of the treaty. Please take a road trip from Lagos/ across West Africa for you to see what I'm trying to point out to you. Nigeria does not seem to understand fully her role/strength nor the importance of economic domination/"warfare". A lot of our neighbours, would rather import from faraway lands including Europe for goods/services they can easily get from Nigeria. They are genuinely weary/afraid of our very greedy corrupt and inept Immigration, Customs&Excise, Police, Soldiers and all manner of other agencies/Wahala on our roads. Believe me I have witnessed and interviewed some citizens of our neighbouring countries and their opinion(s) of Naija is not flattering let alone wholesome/positive at all. In my "common sense" and rudimentary knowledge of economics etc, I would think that it makes good economic/political sense for Nigeria to actively court and promote intra Naija and INTRA West African trade than we are presently doing by neutralising our "saboteurs" of business/country on our roads/ borders and en route to "Mile Two"/ Lagos. Sincerely, I do not see any harm if our neighbours use or engage in their business transactions in Naira just like many countries of the world especially the Caribbean Islands to South America on a daily basis use the US Dollar. That is just one of the many ways you encourage/gain influence over your smaller/weaker neighbours. So far, only R.P. Benin somehow has "fallen" for our quasi-economic influence via smuggling and trading in petrol products & et al. Our story as a country is not pretty in the sphere of external trade beyond OIL. We could do better and not just as a dumping ground for South African companies/goods & services. Nigerians undergo so much hassles/hurdles to export locally produced goods/products because our people/officials mischievously place unnecessary obstacles on our enterprising entrepreneurs/business persons. I have witnessed these "wicked" saboteurs of progress/the economy in action like most Nigerians must have observed/witnessed daily . . Presently, we are nowhere near engaging let alone dominating our neighbours. It's only in our ever fertile imagination/fantasies that we think of our country as "Giant" of this & that . We can do better than we are presently doing even within Naija/across our land borders. There are so much business opportunities/market within and across our borders too for Naija to conquer/dominate if only we have the "will" to do the right thing administratively/Officials will Free us and others . It is very practical indeed. Presently if I remember correctly Nigeria has some investment in the cement industry of R.P.Benin.

birdman

Thank you. You have hit the nail squarely on the head. Has our culture changed? Has the culture and values which exposed us to exploitation from the west changed? If it hasnt, why do we expect that our engagement with the Chinese will be different than it was with the West. They are here for business, not charity.

1. Leaders who will sell out Nigerians for a bribe at every influential position. Check.
2. Deep seated tribalism that prevents us from coming together and electing competent people. Check.
3. Low level of civic duty where we dont really care when injustice is done to others, as long as we escape. Check.

This is why Rossike's optimism bothers me.

@^^ I understand your reticence/reservations but Rossike's reasoning on the topic is not wrong and he is not saying that we bend over backwards for "abuse" either.
Any relationship between the "weak" and the "strong" will always be fraught with inherent "dangers". Can we generally say that our long "romance" with the "West" have yielded "desired" or "favourable" results whatever we mean by that? I guess that our desires/wants are for "materials" or tangible investments that will impact on the majority of our people far more than what we see around us now . Nobody on this forum believes that the Chinese are altruistic let alone because they are in love with us either .
As for your nos:1-3 reasons, whose fault is it that we cannot get our "act" together? I do not hold our so called "leaders" wholly responsible for our inherent lack of cohesiveness or general lack of discipline but everyone of us have some responsibility to do the right thing. Is that not what civic responsibility is all about? Bro, we cannot blame others for our inherent laziness or stupidity. It's not pretty nor sexy whichever way we look at it. Rossike is right to be optimistic and positively cautious I guess.

Winneygirl

In my opinion, 'Less is More'.

She's got confidence but d hair didnt bring it out. All dat hair in her face gives an impression of someone who is trying too hard 2impress.

D hair made d dress look plain and unattractive.

Nothin like sweeping all that hair back and holding Ur chin high!!!

Confidence!!

@^^ Just my thoughts too Gbam +1000! You're so on point without "sounding" bitchy and bad bele.

birdman

Ask the native Malay, Thai and a couple other ethnic groups in the area, who have minority Chinese families virtually controlling the finance of their native lands, while keeping that power in a small cabal from generation to generation very successfully.

@^^ Whose fault is it that the so called majority "indigenes" of the countries mentioned above are inherently lazy, corrupt and indisciplined compared to the Chinese, Jews, Parsi(Persians)? Bro, I understand your reservations/reticence but values and culture are what shapes/builds cohesive societies/nations. Pervasive "Corruption" is but a symptom of a larger malaise facing Africans everywhere.

Networkmaster

You think Nigerians are hard working people? Wait until the Chinese takes over and you will know
how lazy you are.

@^^ Is laziness a virtue in any culture/society? Do you sincerely wish for mediocrity, slackness/laziness and indiscipline?

Ileke-IdI

I want this relationship with a lion tho. I'm jealous.

@^^ Na waoo abi u don tire for " Black star" ...... I begi come back to Ekiti/Naija .

dasjparrow

I do not think the north will let another southerner rule this country even if we Nigerians voted one in.

@^^ Is Lucky Joe actually ruling this country? hmmm

mbulela

Most folks still do not understand our issues as a country.
We have never lacked good men with passion and sincerity.
What we lack is a good system.
As good as this man is, he might make no difference cos the system is structured to produce failure.
I wish him the best,anyway.

@^^ Gbam! +10000