₦airaland Forum

@stillwater

Omosexy is [b]Super [/b]in that photo and in Ankara.

Nnenna1

^^^Are you trying to imply that other Igbo Cities have chaos and are comprised of a societal framework that is inherently bad? 
I would like for you to explain what you mean by the nuances between the "so-called" Igbos across the Niger and the "real" Igbos, now that you're at it.

@^^ No I've not implied anything about chaos. Whaoo! it's not about "tribal" war or "ethnicism" . I wondered why ? - there is a reason why a fleeing Hausa in danger across the Niger(Onitsha) would run to another Igbo [/b]town(Asaba) for 'safety'. I asked [b]Why? It's not a big deal nor anything to impugn anybody's character for. Is it? I challenged earlier posters to go and find out(research) from the fleeing Hausa people themselves and perhaps go to Asaba to find out from the indigenes or their traditional ruler( Prof. Edozien), conversant with the local history/culture of the people. They may come away with a different view point instead of simplistic 'geography' lessons. I have not put down anybody yet some loud mouths on this forum are frothing in the mouth with dubious and spurious "geography" lessons that perhaps may do them more good hence the word "nuances" was used. They clearly do not understand the culture [/b]and [b]social politics of Asaba nor that across the Niger. It's not my fault that a lot of Nigerians lack simple comprehension and understanding of basic social awareness of the place they claim to reside or come from . Tantrums and bad language does not change anything. Does it? I am not going to indulge ignorant unaware simpletons. I only did them a favour, by reminding them to be a little reflective and introspective before exhibiting their ignorance and haughtiness publicly. I guess i am not alone in thinking that on NL a lot of Igbo persons and their cohorts exhibit such unwholesome qualities a lot of the times. It does their cause or whatever no good with such 'half baked' pseudo-intellectualism. Please, I am not hating nor attacking anybody but airing my own personal opinion. Please go through the posts above by some NL noise makers you'll appreciate my concern as if they are very ready for "war" right now and right away,  . Na waoo . There are times silence and introspection is very much in order. Volubility is not a sign of cleverness nor strength. Is it? Sister, I hope you get my drift . I have not tried to 'split' or insult the brothers on both sides of the Niger either by my statements yet some persons who think that they are the "guardians" of their race/ethnic group are hopping mad about my simple posts. What would they do if BH appears on their doorsteps ? Terror is everywhere in Nigeria right now( Police, occupying army, and hooligans/robbers and BH) et al. All they have to do is answer the simple question I posed,  Why? Please no geography lessons .

@Nnenna1
Why are you hung up on the 'distance' or 'geography' instead of the essence of my post?. Are there no small towns/villages close to Onitsha in Anambra state less than ten minutes drive away instead of crossing a perilous bridge into some other Igbo town? I guess you do not know much about Nigeria let alone about such subtleties/difference in attitudes.


@Afam4eva
Do you sincerely think this is about 'distance' or 'geography' lesson? Have you ever spoken to an Hausa person who have actually lived in Onitsha or Asaba to find out about their perception of the places? Why do they consistently run to Asaba over the years or other Delta Igbo towns for safety instead of other equally nearer Anambra towns? Why do Nigerians bury their heads in the sand? There are so much unfinished business in Nigeria.

@homerac7 

So the import of my post to you is about the geography or the physical closeness of Onitsha to Asaba? Please read my post again or perhaps you are in denial or prefer deliberate ignorance of the essence [/b]of my post.  Let me repeat my question again.

[b]Why would a fleeing Hausa person run to another predominantly Igbo town for safety whether ten minutes away or one hour away? [/b]Please think or ask people who know about these things - differences in perception and values even within a sub- group like the Igbo. The Hausa have consistently sought refuge in Asaba and other Delta Igbo towns during periods of crisis. You cannot just explain it away with some spurious "geography" lesson and maps. It is human beings that make a place what it is - hell or heaven . I honestly wonder why is it that a majority of so called Igbo leadership nowadays lack serious deep thinking and analytical abilities? It is as if the "democratic" or "republican" values have negatively affected everyone in Igboland so much so that people are ever so [b]quick [/b]to speak or talk without [b]serious reflection and introspection. It is a serious issue that must be confronted if the Igbo are to survive properly in Nigeria of today. As it is now, there is no so called serious spokes person(s) let alone leader .

                                                                                                                       
@Ejiné
Mr Delta Igbo, your sense of geography and logic is not very good. Please read my post again, perhaps, you'll come away with a better understanding and the import of my line of thinking/essence of my post. The same question I posed above goes for you. i get the impression that haughtiness nowadays is a peculiar Igbo attribute. Is it just on NL or general too? I hope it is not a pervasive general attitude amongst the Igbo otherwise it's a dangerous habit that prevents a people from being taken seriously since everyone speaks and is an authority on everything without necessarily being good at anything per se. Please think before you speak on a subject you know nothing about. I probably know Nigeria including your backyard than most Nigerians. It's not from some maps or classroom either .

BlackPikiN

^^^^Stop all this preaching.
Go to tell that to all the Emirs in the North!

@^^ You'll continue to be a "victim" everywhere because you do not have a sense of history let alone the simplest of social awareness [/b]of your surroundings. You obviously did not understand let alone learn a thing or two from my post hence you [b]assumed that I was preaching or a pacifist . Far from it .  Please learn to comprehend properly before writing. I guess you know nothing about your society/culture hence your haughtiness. The Emirs are smarter than you think .

bashr8

they run to asaba because it is not a commercial city , attacks also dont happen in enugu,awka,asaba and owerri its mostly happens in aba and onitsha cus those are the commercial cities where you see all sorts of people and hoodlums.

@^^ It's the above kind of haughtiness and thinking, that's the bane of Igbo society today. Please find out why Hausa people instinctively choose to run to Asaba instead of other neighbouring smaller towns in Anambra, Enugu and Imo states. Your logic is very faulty and lacking in awareness of some basic[b] social history[/b]. It's a shame that the Hausa from faraway North of Nigeria are aware of such difference in behaviour and social history of a place like Asaba yet you don't have the simplest of insight about differences in behavioural patterns between so called Igbos across the Niger and those of the East. Please go and research or interview persons from Asaba especially the traditional ruler of the town. It's not a recent attitude to strangers by natives of Asaba, hence they were easy prey and victims of the infamous genocide/massacre by the same Hausa and Nigerian federal soldiers. There are so much in our Nigerian history and cultures that are obscured by ignorance and perhaps deliberate too, like everything else in Nigeria. The shame of it all, is that most of this subtle difference in culture and social history is common knowledge to the so called Hausa and Fulani living amongst the Igbos and other Nigerians. There are far more "all sorts of people and hoodlums" in Asaba than the indigenes in numbers yet there is an effective moral and social control/code of conduct operating in the town. Does Onitsha not have a traditional ruler etc like most Nigerian and Igbo towns etc? It's a choice to be bad and delinquent. Is Benin not a fairly big town populated by "all sorts" yet the Oba of Benin to some extent can actually issue orders that can effectively impact on the citizens of the city just like the Emirs in the North of Nigeria. Perhaps he has not done enough of that in recent times  hence there are a lot of "out of control" activities in the city. Nigerians have not used the traditional institutions well enough to work for us for national cohesion and peace because we are inherently lazy, wicked and thoughtless. We love chaos .

afam4eva

[b]Asaba Igbos are[b] known [/b]to be violent that's why fleeing hausas always take refuge in Asaba [/b]as if it's hausaland.

@^^ Is the above not a contradiction? Is the statement above really true of the indigenes of Asaba? Please check your facts before making such uninformed and presumptuous statement. Why would a fleeing Hausa person run to Asaba to seek refuge amongst presumed violent and dangerous (Igbo) speaking people, if your statement above is ok? Is it? There is a history of peaceful coexistence and tolerance actively promoted by the indigenes of Asaba hence Hausa people and the rest of Nigerians find the place very peaceful and interesting. Besides, much of Nollywood is now based in Asaba because of the inherent very good nature of the people of Asaba despite the horrors of the recent Nigerian history(war). They are amongst or perhaps the most forgiving and tolerant people in Nigeria. Please, do your research again .

morpheus24 

I would  like to know if Tupac is really dead?

@^^ Ah Ah  Do you wish him dead? Na my paddy na We ate at the same Buka yesterday noon.  He was eyeing my pepper soup so I ordered some for him to have a taste of Mama Iyabo's special for the day. He was so grateful and thankful before I left him behind as I was heading for the border(Seme) to engage in some serious runnings . He is very much "undead" . .

@OP
Mr Walter spoke the truth and did everyone a favour by reminding lazy, deluded African pseudo-intellectuals that they are scum and unintelligent. Most African intellectuals engage in bad mimicry of whatever they think they are doing with their time. Africans south of the Sahara are seriously in trouble and truly lazy .

@Op
It's a lie that BH want to harm Prof.Soyinka. They cannot do it because they are not exactly dumb and stupid. They are very politically savvy and aware to bite the finger that potentially feeds them. The Nigeria of IBB/Abacha era is gone forever. A whole new generation/ breed of Nigerians are no longer patient and tolerant of silly behaviours of a "minority" who have managed to convince themselves that they have a monopoly of mindless violence and derring do or impunity. Nobody should loose sleep over such misguided talk or thoughts whatsoever. Nigeria does not belong to the foolish ruling elite despite IBB's thoughts about the indivisibility of Nigeria. BH is not a big deal until we began to acknowledge them as some invisible boogey man in our midst. If they have not harmed any of the so called Northern big men, why would they harm Soyinka because of mere criticism/words? Nigeria is so easy to dismantle if we really want to and BH is nowhere near such goals yet. They need Nigeria more than the rest of Nigerians(South) need them. The consequences of such a misguided action will be Swift, Fatal [/b]and [b]final for everyone .

@Op  
Do so called police men extort or collect toll anywhere in Northern Nigeria?
What kind of human beings are the uncaring, unfeeling, brain dead governors or so called leaders do they have in the South East? Do they not have the power to order or speak up against incessant harassment and Check points everywhere in the Southern part of Nigeria?. Massob leader should not be the person ordering the dismantlement of the so called police check points in Onitsha. Where is Peter Obi and his cohorts(governors of South East)? I am beginning to think that the Igbos have internalised defeat to the extent that they have become COWARDS and very fearful and lacking courage whatsoever for immediate action. It is very terrible indeed .

Nnenna1

I'm talking about the incompetent movie crew and marketers. Even old-time movies such as Glamour Girls, True Confession, Rattle Snake, Out of Bounds, etc will show how the quality of direction and story has declined over the years, despite the upsurge in digital video technology and increase in numbers of actors and celebrities.

@^^Well, that's the Nigerian national story . One step forward and three steps backwards. .

Seeing as the movie industry is standalone, can't some individuals raise funds to buy real movie equipment and film editing studios [/b]that well-meaning producers can rent? How about scholarships for aspiring producers/directors to film schools in India or Asia or gigs in Bollywood,

@^^ Some individuals have done the above but it's very insignificant or not enough. Like most things in Nigeria, [b]Greed or small mindedness, visionless, politics and lack of [b]adequate technical [/b]awareness goes a long way in undermining good intentions of a very tiny few. Our relatively young country is not yet a nation, hence we do not fully understand the nuances underpinning such an industry and her importance in national reconstruction/affirmation. There's no proactive national policy or interest for the movie industry like in other places. It's not OIL . The infrastructure in Nigeria is non existent and very dire. Constant power failure damages equipment . It's no fun hence mediocrity is second nature to most Nigerians.

baby-boy

I feel angry that the industry stayed at a mediocre level, I have seen the music industry take giant strides but the Movie industry doesn't want to improve.

@^^ Why would you be angry at an industry that is relatively self reliant and capital intensive than the music video production(industry) capital required to impress you . Aren't you somehow admitting to the fact that you've become accustomed to " western" movie standards/genres so much so that you don't know where to draw the line of 'fairness" and "judgement"?. You obviously, admire the music videos because of your inherent prejudice and fondness for anything that has the semblance of "Americana" or the mimicry of American music genres/videos including "accents" et al. It is your choice and taste of course. Please do not judge a whole industry based on your "whims and fancies". Nollywood is still a developing industry where we don't really have many professional/ trained film makers like the Indians and Euro-Americans. Music videos are not that many and does not require the kind of input that will make a great difference to impress a lot of Nigerians addicted and nurtured on everything "Americana". Be a little generous and charitable to our very young and fledgeling movie industry. We may not get it right most of the times but we are making strides that even the South Africans have acknowledged our impact so much so that their previous President(Mbeki) admonished and advised his country men/women to copy the "Nigerian" ingenuity and creativity in the movie industry to create more viable jobs for her citizens. I would not like to remind you that much of the so called South African movie industry has been in existence since pre/during apartheid era and it is wholly "White". What's the big deal? They have the infrastructure to support the industry. Much of the so called Nigerian music videos are made in South Africa anyway and even in Ghana. Our environment and infrastructure is almost totally user unfriendly/non existent. I wonder what are your 'standards' or desirable notion for "improve" in Nollywood? We are not perfect. We all know and acknowledge that fact. We should not be too careless with our acquired "taste" and misguided perception that Nollywood have not improved at all. Bro, review your "taste and perception" and perhaps you'll be less angry but a little enthusiastic for our hard working self taught, un-trained Nollywood personnel. Please leave the Indians alone. The [b]caste [/b]system has been in existence in India and does not need us on this thread to analyse. I presume we all know what it is in the first place?

cheikh

The film industry is defined by Culture or Heritage, Perception, Money and Politics of the market place(eye balls) hence Bollywood is bigger than Hollywood and does not need to justify or seek approval from anybody outside of the Indian consumer market place.

@ baby-boy  ^^ I guess you don't really understand the full concepts of what I wrote above hence you and some persons on this forum think that the film industry is "Neutral". Some also denigrate and compare Nollywood that's barely twenty years old with some alien industry that does not inherently represent Africans  "properly" or as "equals" let alone as independent abettors of good "Taste" too. Believe me, this subject is not that simple as some of us think or imply. We should perhaps listen to an interview by that great Nigerian film maker Mr Femi Odugbemi on 'Hollywood/Nollywood' some time ago. It was very instructive and educative indeed. Unfortunately, I can't find it for the benefit of everyone here. We should be a little mindful of how we instinctively condemn and assume that Nollywood is all "trash" but is Hollywood since the nineteenth century to the period of "B" movies of Ronald Regan era great or to recent times all that great? I can understand that most of us know nothing else other than Hollywood movies, but that's the source of our collective handicap, - "addiction" "miseducation" or "mis-perception" and unfair judgement of anything from our backyard "Nollywood". Was the "Figurine" not NOLLYWOOD? I think, it was a good film. Anyway, let's think a little deeper and leave our pseudo-liberal views of films as mere art in which any "good" actor can suddenly transfix our attention because they are just "good" without other mediating intervention beyond the control of the consumer. The film industry is just another weapon amongst the others in the quasi "idealogical" armoury of "Taste", "Opinion" and "Perception" formers of this world. Globalisation is just another word to befuddle and enthral some of us, as if the world has just been reborn or re-Created.  Bollywood(Indians) do not suffer from the kind of 'self doubts' that afflict us as Nigerians(Africans) in relation to our identity in films or outside either. Their Size, National Culture/heritage, and their full awareness/consciousness of self, have given them a relative advantage/confidence to compete and withstand the onslaughts of western "cultural imperialism" on their psyche unquestionably. Nigeria is not exactly a nation yet let alone having the capacity and sophistication to understand and withstand subliminal attacks on her. Differences in viewpoints should not be bitter nor taken too seriously either . It's the "democracy' of ideas and thoughts on NL . Have a good day bro .

clip

Honestly, i cant believe my Reuben Abati can change like this.

@^^ Did he really change ? He is a professional propagandist. That's what "journalists"(embedded) or employed by governments are supposed to do-  promote and project favourable image of the government no matter how grotesque it seems to detractors or admirers of Abati .

Besides, he has two wives to support, so he has to get "busy"/productive by any means necessary . Please understand his predicament at the home front . He did not change as a person but only advanced his "career" ; never mind the fancy phrases like "left of this", "Centre" and "right of that" or even "extremism". They don't mean anything in Nigeria. We are generally unprincipled and not disciplined enough to engage in such "pseudo" idealogical pursuits let alone the intellectual rigour that goes with such "sporty" activities. Our so called trade unions cannot be sensibly be described as "leftists" of any kind let alone DM .
Abati did not do anything unusual that most Nigerians will not desire to do if called upon to "serve" their "father/motherland" . I beg free him

omar22

You dont hear the Argentine cry like a Canary when Madonna played the role of Evita!!!!

@^^ Bros you are a little wrong on the above. Besides, Madonna is of Italian-American roots and the majority citizens of Argentina are of Italian roots and European heritage . The film industry is defined by Culture or Heritage, Perception, Money and Politics [/b]of the market place(eye balls) hence Bollywood is bigger than Hollywood and does not need to [b]justify or seek approval from anybody outside of the Indian consumer market place.

houvest

What amazes me is that there are still opposers like IBB to these constructive means of engagement or disengagement. What do they really hope to gain by consistently supporting the repression of truth? Are they intrinsically evil, killjoys, dogs-in-the-manger, sadists or just cowards scared of change?

@^^ Well, you may call them all manner of names but they are realists who know where their "bread is buttered". Nigeria as is presently constituted is very much right and easier for rampant "lootocracy". Much of IBB's ascribed wealth is in Nigeria and protected appropriately by the selective ignorance and amnesia of the people. Much of our so called ruling elite love and will die for Nigeria as it is now because it facilitates their wicked tendencies and ill gotten wealth which might not be wholly safe if Nigeria disintegrates. It is not easy to steal and misbehave amongst your kinsmen and women without loss of face. In Nigeria of today, you can brazenly behave badly, loot and have the effrontery to show off or confront your detractors shamelessly. You can have your own private army or thugs and of course some small minded ethnic compatriots will always shout your messianic innocence and protection. I doubt it that one will go far within one's ethnic/national group with such brazen bad behaviour as prevalent in present day Nigeria. Laziness and mediocrity is enormously rewarded in present day Nigeria hence majority of the promoters of one Nigeria besides the very tiny minorities are inherently corrupt and lazy. They are easily satisfied with mediocrity and do not see anything wrong with our system of governance/arrangement. They are very much afraid of the words "National Conference", "equality", "democracy", "accountability" or "scrutiny", "confederation", True "federalism" or even worse "resource control". It is very possible to be in love with Nigeria as it is now "chaotic", most especially as most so called Nigerians are masochists lacking in honesty whatsoever even to self . We are inherently cowardly and fearful hence BH are held in awe. Nevertheless, I admire their guts and courage considering that they are originally a minority based group. They have proven that it is so easy to destabilise and dismantle Nigeria as we know it within six weeks as I have always mulled over such an hypothetical enterprise .

Gbawe

It appears Sanusi's elitism , priviledged and royal background is a personal impediment he cannot conquer to be a sound all-round leader. Lately he has come off as distinctly pro-elite and pro-establishment.

@^^ You are right that his royal background is a personal impediment that he cannot conquer to be a sound all-round leader. His background is that of an absolute Feudal [/b]lord as practiced in the far north of the country hence his "gaffes" and strident world view lacking empathy for the populace. I quite understand his reflexes. He is a victim of his roots. You cannot runaway from yourself . It's quite difficult coming from an [b]absolute "feudal" background to suddenly be anything else "extraordinary". To understand his problem, compare him to another privileged personality like Ojukwu, but with a different world view, reflexes and empathy. One is an absolute "feudal" lord whereas the other is of a republican orientation and background despite the enormous material privileges of the two gentlemen. Culture [/b]and [b]history defines a man not just materialism around them.

morpheus24

South Africans are not loosing their languges

@^^ I guess the languages will not be lost considering the African population but why expunge the main languages from the "formal" educational system? I thought that the agreement after apartheid was that everyone will have to learn each other's languages as a means of minimising ethnic conflicts and encouraging smoother social integration. I was aware that it was then fashionable amongst the "white tribes" of South-Africa to begin to learn Zulu and Xhosa amongst the rest other languages immediately after apartheid. What went wrong? Did the desire and zeal during Mandela's coming to power suddenly die away when he left office? It appears to me like taking one step forward and three steps backwards .

@pechhamboi

The Fulani in Nigeria are powerful and assertive because they conquered the peaceful agrarian indigenes(Hausa) speaking people. Nowadays there is not much difference between the two inherently different ethnic groups. Islam is a religion they share and have in common since the conquest and pacification of the North by the Fulani led jihad of Uthman Dan Fodio. The Hausa are generally peaceful and tolerant hence it was relatively easy for the minority Fulani to over throw their leaders and install Fulani leadership or Chiefs in place of indigenous Hausa leadership. Polygamy is prevalent in pre-conquest Africa but Islam in the sahel region also gave it added legitimacy everywhere in consonant with traditional African customs in Hausa land. The Fulani being typically monogamous is because of their traditional life style- pastorial/nomadism. It is also cheaper and mobile for them to be monogamous not because they are more disciplined or not. They are vengeful and unforgiving because they can afford to be so amongst very tolerant, peaceful and laid back agrarian neighbours. They are not actually very aggressive nor domineering in other places in West Africa as they are in Northern Nigeria. I think that the overall peaceful nature of other Nigerians have been construed as laziness or cowardice by the Fula and it raises the mystic of the so called brave fulani in the Nigerian sphere quite unlike other places where they are looked down on or even discriminated against. I blame the middle-belt farmers for being unreasonably tolerant and fearful in their own land/farmlands being trespassed and destroyed by roaming fulani herdsmen. Physically, they are slim built or willowy and vary in complexion depending on which country they come from. The Hausa language is also spoken by the Fulani and majority indigenes. It is only natural that it is so, the fulani are the minority ethnic group. The Fulani are from somewhere else north west and West of Nigeria - Guinea, Niger, Mali and other places in West Africa. You can actually discern their origin/ethnicity from some of their names quite distinct from the Hausa. The eating or food habits of the Fulani depending on where they come from are quite distinct from typical indigenous Hausa eating habits/taste. The Fulani are predominantly business/trading people(nomads) whereas the Hausa are also traders and Farmers(sedentary). Their mode of dressing and embroidery, jewellery etc are quite different from the Hausa. There are more differences between the two groups. Inter-marriages have gone a long way in neutralising some very distinct differences between them culturally and physically, hence the constant annoying "Hausa/Fulani" terminology by other Nigerians, to group them together as if they are one and the same but for Islam(religion) for the majority of them. There are Christians amongst the two groups especially amongst the indigenous Hausa. There are animists/traditional religion amongst them too.

@Thief of Hearts

It doesn't have to be an "Igbo" actress nor Naija either, so long that the representation of the characters are close to the storyline. Thandie is certainly off and cannot be the true representation of a "dark" complexioned Nigerian/African as the story portrayed.
"Anyway, who pays the piper calls the tune". The "market" or cinema house will decide whether it is a success or not.

tpia@

and the choice of a mixed lead actress could be because igbos are generally considered to be mixed.

@^^ Is that myth or reality or your own uninformed prejudice/assumptions? How many Igbos are actually light complexioned let alone mixed/biracial? It's amazing how ignorance and gossip have become "fact" in the Nigerian sphere. Please, I am not being hostile nor attacking you .

Pove

Collectively, people of sub-Saharan African descent have become passive in this continued genocide – the driving factors being commerce, industry and the all mighty dollar. Thus, people become blind to it in the name of social acceptance and mobility. The media is a major tool applied in conveying the social messages that influence the masses into these practices. Sure, a non-Igbo woman could play the role. But why does she have to be half white? Why is it that anytime Hollywood makes a movie about Africans they can’t be more authentic in their casting? What is wrong with the way non-mixed indigenous sub-Saharan African look that they can’t cast them to portray these parts?

@^^ Your observations and sentiments are on point. You'll also agree that us Africans have become active participants in the war of attrition and social Genocide against our own positive representation. Our women folk have made Indians and latin Americans very rich by their misguided and incessant consumption/demand for "human hair" pieces on African heads. That's self negation and since conquest of Africa, nothing have changed. We have acquired and developed all manner of self negating habits and representation for our selves as Africans. It's become automatic [/b]and [b]natural in many cases.


@Thief of Hearts

Your views and sentiments are on Point. We suffer from abject Inertia and debilitating ignorance that we cannot even affirm our own humanity even when we're given the opportunity to do so. Is the director not an African? Maybe they'll rationalise that Thandie is Zimbabwean albeit biracial of course .

Jakumo

Personally I would not hesitate to use deadly force in a self-defence situation where my own life is in immediate peril, but I would NEVER contemplate joining any ululating crowd that descends on a helpless, disarmed human being, beating to death and then setting alight the victim.   Every person who partakes of such frontier "justice" is no better than the individual being killed in that macabre extra-judicial manner, and has, by engaging in such wanton savagery, descended to the status of a cold-blooded sadist and murderer forever after.   The same mob who killed the rogue cop in this instance would be equally inclined to chase down and burn to death further random victims selected on the flimsiest of excuses, ranging from alleged theft of reproductive organs to purported withcraft or petty, non-violent theft.

@^^^ Truthfully, your sentiments are very much desirable [/b]and must be the norm in any [b]sane/civilised [/b]society but is that the case in Nigeria especially the South? Have you noticed the difference in outcry/reaction about extra-judicial killings in the North? The people in the North of the country are not accustomed to police [b]abuse and impunity [/b]hence the general outcry by "high" and "low" and implicit sympathy for BH by the populace. We cannot continue to pretend that all is well with us as a nation/people. A lot of Nigerians are psychologically disturbed/sick and our police men/ women are not different. We have become inured to ugliness, wickedness and general depredation around us. How do you make sense out of [b]deliberate disorder and chaos by those who have been given the "authority" to manage and police our collective crisis? I am not inherently pro lynching of police men but when you have been pushed against the wall by these omnipresent "powerful" men and women systematically robbing, extorting and abusing citizens with impunity, sooner or later there will be a[b] sudden[/b] eruption of rage/rebellion. I wonder if you realised that much of the so called "Check-points" are illegal and have severally been abolished by the authorities since Obj times, yet they continue with impunity everywhere in the South of Nigeria, daring the citizens to do their worse . I am very much aware that the Nigerian mission(embassy) in R.P. Benin have severally complained about numerous and unnecessary check points along the Mile 2 to Seme border post of Nigeria. What is wrong with our Police? Why do they deliberately create problems where there are none? Are they customs and excise and immigration officers? Until recently they were constant inevitable nuisance at the sea ports(Apapa and Tin-Can) before Ngozi Iweala ordered unauthorised persons to vacate the Ports.

Sagamite This is why it is fantastic to burn the muthafckers.



@^^ Well, I am glad that you've converted to my stance of "retaliation" or "eye for an eye" at last sagacious Sagamite my brother. Our police are not worth reforming but rather it should be "abolished". It is not fit for purpose at all.

Afro_Blue

Officially, students should be taught in their mother tongue from Grades 1 to 3, but a survey by the Sunday Times newspaper found this was not happening. In fact, by the time they got to 12th year, most pupils were opting for Afrikaans as their first additional language after English with 68,455 choosing Afrikaans, 10,943 choosing Zulu and  1,547 choosing Xhosa.

@^^ It's as if the struggle for freedom from mental slavery/apartheid never happened .
Why did people fight/die to reject "Afrikaans" and so called "Bantu" education then? .

phillip0906 The  truth remains dat we igbos,like playing d victim.Very unfortunate dat we hate 2 tell ourselves d truth


@^^ It's not peculiar  nor unique to "Igbos". Their experience of persecution/massacres in the northern part of Nigeria and of course the "war" experience  compounds/distorts [/b]the Igbo [b]psyche. It is just like the Israelis/Jews whose experience in Europe since the second European War, have managed to corner the "victimhood" moral market place in the eyes of the "world"-  the Europeans/Americans . It is understandable and should be  understood within that context. The Igbo experience in Nigeria since pre-independence to present times have not always been "easy"/"chummy" but rather that of repressive tolerance of them by other Nigerians if the truth be told . Nigerians absolutely dislike/hate each other hence the high level of intolerance/gratuitous violence everywhere, quite unlike other places in Africa besides war zones. Anyway, there are on going wars in Nigeria whether we admit it or not .

Op

[b]They seem to be losing the love, confidence and support of the people, because of the way and manner they execute their operations, i.e. the amount of killings either by hanging, starving and or shooting of innocent citizens i[/b]n the so-called interrogation centres."

@^^^ bolded>>>> That's the crux of the matter . So called Nigerian armed forces are notorious for acts of [b]massacres [/b]and [b]extra-judicial killings of civilians and wounded persons. It's as if the chicken have come home to roust at last. A "Big" personality like Alhaji Shettima Ali Mongonu certainly have confirmed what most Nigerians from the South have been saying/complaining about our trigger happy men/women in uniform. They lack basic political training let alone the awareness of the consequences of their foolish actions in the long run .

solihu

If more of such lynches are carried out , I tell you this would be a kind of speedy "reform" that wont cost government a penny!

@^^You're certainly an action person not a wimp/coward from the south . I've been singing the above mantra for some time now in the south.
Thank you.

Rhino.5dm

FG is unleashing soldiers in Lagos to terrorize unarmed civilians.

That's the Nigerian way of problem avoidance and problem solving par excellence.

@Op

Na today? Is it really new story? How about so called land grabs in Ethiopia, Sudan, Kenya and Uganda by so called investors in cahoot with the government of so called independent countries above mentioned ?.

@Op

That Area boys/hooligans/miscreants/Extortionists are firmly entrenched in Lagos, Ogun and Ibadan as potential saboteurs of ideals of good intentioned peaceful revolts in Nigeria.

Their bad behaviour and actions elicit the "wrath"/reaction of our trigger happy police and army men in the SW hence the current invasion of Lagos by the army. Seriously, the excesses of these hooligans or area boys are a bigger threat to any cohesive collective peaceful action against the government(centre). Indiscipline must not be tolerated otherwise all the good work/organisation for a successful strike can easily be undone by the presence of these indisciplined minority in the midst of a strike. I believe that most of us have read about their misguided actions/road blocks in some parts of Lagos during the strike/potential revolt. Revolts can easily fail because of actions of miscreants on the periphery of a revolution thereby giving the movement a bad name/image in the eyes of the status quo. I hope next time these so called area boys will be dealt with decisively/schooled on the finer points of the ideals or else forget it. Our so called Law enforcement officers are never trained politically let alone on the finer points of [b]civility [/b]towards unarmed civilians, otherwise, they would not be so quick to fire live rounds on their fellow citizens. They behave as if they own us or worse, contemptuously most especially in the south of the country(Nigeria). Analyse the number of persons killed in the south against just two in kano/North of the Benue and Niger(Jebba). Is it that people in the north were better behaved or that the police in the north of the country have more self restraint. In Kaduna the curfew was blatantly ignored yet nobody was killed nor assaulted by men in uniform. Why?