₦airaland Forum

PhysicsQED

What happened is the perfect example of remaining politically neutral. If he had given them his blessing, I have no doubt that they would have tried to spin it to make it seem like they had a special royal endorsement. That's how politicians are.

@^^Gbam!!! It appears that Nigerians find it very difficult to appreciate and understand their own local[b] institutions[/b] yet we would gladly acknowledge the pompous British Royalty and their role in their society as if they are superior to our own older traditional Royal(OBA) institution. Inferiority complex will not kill us .

RSA

South African Institute of international Affair released this research study on the South African companies experienceon doing business in Nigeria

http://www.saiia.org.za/images/stories/pubs/archive/biap_reports/biap_rep_03_nigeria_abridged_2004_en.pdf

@^^ I have read the so called "research study". Bro, you could do better research yourself instead of giving too much credit to your "SAIIA". As a regular on NL, you sincerely could do a better report and cheaper too. You could do an overview of the Nigerian economic scene without much effort via NL, so what's the point of posting such a report here? How does it relate to the topic being discussed? Any Nigerian could easily give you the answers to whatever you want to know of the "Nigerian" economy/scene . Please don't be dazzled by grand sounding "institute" or so called "research". They have not said anything new or earth shattering about Nigeria either . It is common knowledge .

MaxNdu

You will know a true King when you see and hear the acts of one. Oba of Benin has shown He is the only Oba with self-respect and that cannot be easily bought-over with fraud and falsehood, long live Oba of Benin!!!!

@^^ Gbam!! That's the hallmark of a true imperial monarch with overwhelming power and majesty. There are none like him in Nigeria today. Those who do not like it can go and hug transformer.

@Op

There is a difference between an educational slap and a bad bele slap or two . However, conflict and slaps should never be tolerated let alone encouraged in any healthy relationship.

ndu_chucks

Where is your specific disagreement with any part of my post? The people you are demonizing here are legitimate businessmen who own oil blocks and are creating jobs for Nigerians by the thousands. They have done nothing wrong by practicing capitalism.

You should join me in encouraging capitalists in our society.

For those issuing threats, your threats are quite empty. Bunch of lazy fools.  If I invest millions of dollars and find oil, who are you to say I should not enjoy the fruits of my capitalist labour?  If I don't find oil after spending millions, do you compensate me?  Leave capitalists alone, move to North Korea if you hate capitalism.

@^^ Good Man! Your capitalist instincts are spot on and I look forward to more profound insights about "capitalism from you Naija style .

MsDarkSkin

slavery has EVERYTHING to do with my point.
it's your type of mentality that caused it and can perhaps allow it to happen again and also it shuts down your idea that AAs look more Igbo when I've seen AAs and caribbeans who are DIRECT carbon copies of Yoruba ppl in looks

@^^Word!!! Gbam!!!! . That's the funny half baked stories/lies we like to tell ourselves. Sister, let the wisdom continue to flow from you and[b] Mrs, Chima[/b]. Thank you,

Could you pls post a better/clearer profile photo of yourself. I love your , . You're very cute!

igbolagosa OP

@ It's the usual stories and lies we like to tell ourselves as a people and we like to make silly claims on everything as if it's a trophy or competition .

Kilode?!

The Chairman of the occasion, Governor Peter Obi of Anambra state said that Nigerians encouraged their leaders to steal saying that that ”sycophants are everywhere in the corridors of power”

@^^ I suppose rapists can also claim that it was not their fault because some women dress "suggestively".
Irresponsibility runs deep in our collective psyche hence we never seem to be able to confront our demons frontally. We'll blame our "misfortunes" on anything else from the devil, witchcraft, bad roads not bad driving habits, others [/b]or "[b]sycophants" as if he does not have any self control or responsibility for his actions(chief executive) or inadequacies.

cycober

May god avenge for the niger delta people who have been mistreated for far too long.

@^^ You should not bring God or Allah into it to avenge for the Niger Deltan's inherent stupidity and lazy thinking. If you're seriously concerned as a northerner as you claimed, you should be enlisting as an enlightened member of Boko Haram and target the oppressors instead of  hapless innocent persons in their midst . Action speaks louder than words. Victims allow things to happen to them. The Deltans actually control the purse strings of the federation right now but are they bright enough to know it? Are they articulate and organised enough like BH to wrest power or do serious damage to the so called federation like BH have effectively demonstrated with their well coordinated actions? . They are spiritually aligned to their oppressors hence the foolish and inarticulate bluster by so called spokespersons from the Niger Delta. They are inherently an indisciplined lazy lot like the rest of Nigerians in the South. Short term narrow thinking is the norm amongst them.

Onlytruth

I look at PH and Calabar for instance, and conclude that there is no reason on earth why these two cities could not have rivalled or even surpassed Lagos in greatness today, had our past leaders been more strategic in thinking.

For me, one of the biggest mistake of the Biafran war effort was that it never seriously carried the non-Igbo along.
We were unlucky not to have such leaders, but then, who is perfect on this earth.
A perfect strategy would have been to allow the whole Biafran secession effort to be led by non-Igbo almost completely (win or lose), with us prividing the needed numbers when necesssary.
The North did it successfully by foisting Gowon. Why couldn't we do the same?
Why is the North still one today, while our region was balkanized into SE and SS?
We have to start using our God given brains.
Extraordinary situation always calls for extraordinary strategies.

I would not mind a Dokubo or any seriously minded Ijaw or Ibibio leading MASSOB for instance. Igbo "smart folks" can be his advisers and guide in that effort.
The end result is the only thing that matters.

This is where I differ from some of my brothers.
I often say here that if someone like myself was in the Biafran war planning team, THERE IS NO WAY WE WOULD LOSE THAT WAR.
I'm serious.

So, I reject the idea that our neighbors cannot be an priceless asset to the emancipation effort.
On the contrary I even think that our dream will remain a dream if we fail to carry them along.

Here I stand!

@^^ The best post from you I have read in a very long time. . I am glad that you have come round to understand my view point about the sad end of Biafra because of lack of serious strategic thinking [/b]on the part of the so called Igbo leadership then. You and I almost think alike in terms of understanding the [b]goal and [b]essence [/b]of Power, War and Peace. Please continue to share your wisdom so that loud mouths and foolish persons can learn.

cap28

all those years he was in exile - how did he survive? who catered for his family?  these are the questions so many delusional igbos can not answer.

@^^ Bro Cap28, let's not malign or impugn his character most especially now that he's gone. I was aware that he was the guest of the Ivorian president and was afforded all the privileges and protection befitting of a friend or former "Head of State" of Biafra. Biafra was actually recognised by Cote d'Ivoire. Besides, he also went into haulage transportation business etc and was pretty successful in it. There is a large Igbo or Biafran community in Cote d'Ivoire till this day like in most francophone West-African countries to Central Africa( Cameroons, Gabon and the Congo(s). That's as far as I know from those who were pretty close to him and returned to Nigeria after the pardon/his return.

cap28

He was responsible for what we now know as quota system and federal character  which enabled more northeners to be enlisted in the army than southerners thereby ensuring that power would forever remain under the control of the north (whoever controls the military controls the country)- to describe him as corrupt is actually an understatement.

@^^ Can you truly blame him(the Sarduana)? That's what Self Interest and Power is about since ancient times. It's not pretty for those on the other side of the fence . Knowledge of History especially about War, Power and Control rewards those who understand the meaning and[b]essence[/b] of those concepts fully.

cap28

Im not sayign that his initial intentions were not genuine (ie in protecting the igbos from the pograms that were happening in the north) im merely saying that his subsequent decision to go down the secession route was based on his own selfish desires, he knew as a military man that biafra could not defeat the north without external military assistance - why did he still pursue the secession knowign this?  didnt he understand that even more igbos would lose their lives?

@^^ highlighted*  That's not exactly the correct analysis of events that led to secession if you fully understand the Igbo cosmology/cultural worldview about so called "Leadership" in their society. Ojukwu(RIP), was caught up by the fervour of emotions generated by so called "elders" around him who actually were far more instrumental to the secession route than himself. Yes, he is a soldier but what hope is there for him in the midst of the baying angry emotions of his people? He was just an appointed "SpokesMan" or "voice of the People". It's a shame that those elders/persons who were instrumental in inspiring/goading him to take the route of secession later denied their roles in the venture. Whatever, some of us might think of him, he was in the right place in the wrong time and his people were extremely treacherous for not coming forward later to tell their own honest story of the events. It's very easy to absolve oneself of any responsibility hence we are all thinking in typically "Euro-centric" - centric and linear sense of leadership sensibility/reflex. Bro, do not overlook his initial instinct was never pro active or in support of secession but pro Nigeria. Never mind the frivolous propaganda flying about on both sides of the divide. Everyone now wants to be on the winning side and deny their treachery and [b]perfidy.

The "African" way is not about suicide but "Hope"; never mind the wishy-washy examples given by some posters earlier. 'He who fights and runs away will surely live to fight another day'. Perhaps, according to you, that's why he got away alive with the support of the "West". Maybe they saw a future where he might be 'handy' in their far sighted project to keep Naija the hell hole it is for a majority of her so called citizens.

Personally, Ojukwu is not the issue. I am rather taken aback and embarrassed by the crass affirmation by Bianca that he will be buried/costumed like a "Roman" general and for good measure in a "gold"/"copper" casket. What is it about us as a people that we take one step forward and three steps backwards ? I am worried that the "Roman" general thing is[b] self negating [/b]and confirmation of our penchant for seeking approval/self affirmation from everywhere else but Africa or self as a people. Our colonial past is truly a damning psychic yoke on us but more so on our so called elite. Bianca if she really made those statements, have really confirmed it that grotesque ignorance is pervasive in Nigeria as a whole.

Sagamite

Now Mr Prest has succeeded in the first stage of his attempt to get the huge payout overturned by the Appeal Court. He has been granted permission to appeal by relying on Nigerian ‘customary native law’.

Mr Prest founded Petrodel Resources around ten years ago and in 2007 it was reported to have a turnover of close to £2.5billion.
But his lawyer Martin Pointer QC told the Appeal Court that a gift of £10,000 ‘seed money’ from his Nigerian father before he died in 1992 was the foundation stone on which his oil empire was built.
He said that under ‘customary law’ in Nigeria Mr Prest became head of the family with a responsibility to use his late father’s money to look after his four siblings and their children.

Mr Pointer argued his company’s assets did not belong to Mr Prest  but were ‘held in trust’ for his children and those of his siblings under Nigerian law.
Mr Prest’s brother Michel has  also launched a claim in the Nigerian High Court to declare that Petrodel Resources forms a part of their late father’s estate.
If successful, Mr Prest’s personal wealth would be dramatically reduced.

@^^^ Sentiments aside, the case is already settled in favour of the man as other factors have come to play especially the recognition/acceptance of the Nigerian angle of the case(Customary Law et al). It's not the first time some "too clever by half" women have taken their hapless husbands to the courts only to be shamed out of court by counter evidence from Naija smart system in British courts a la property claims by lazy greedy naija women in Uk.
British legal system actually acknowledges and accepts our Naija legal precedents/evidence in matters like this. Itsekiri(Warri) man no dey board last trust me!
The man made his ex-wife a reasonably good offer by every standards but greed and false sense of entitlement got the better of her .
Having children for him is not a right of passage let alone confer an unreasonable sense of entitlement on the woman. With marriage comes costs and price in personal freedom et al but not foolish right of entitlement on either party either. It is a choice the woman or man made when entering a marriage union pre-nup or not with your senses very alert, I hope .

What is it about Itsekiri men/women with Oyiboish or Soyoyo or mixed race spouse?

Sagamite

Na Tuface dey slam am, no be me o.

@^^ Na waoo this Tuface guy get liver oo he dey travel o . How you come hear this tori abi you be the fixer? . Nevertheless, I think you can do better than Makossi let alone hanging up your ehm ehm boots and game over. I don't think she's that special but for her upfront adventurousness . Anyway, what do I know .

Sagamite

If you have banged Makosi for months, you should have banged all you need to bang. Otherwise, you are a very, very greedy man in my view.

@^^ Action man!! What was the experience like? . Generous man ko greedy man ni . You'll kill person o oo .

One_Naira

You've not provided anything to support your so called hypothesis, just of you saying it does not make it true. You have neither provided any facts, figures or article, like asked, to support your thesis thus why should anyone take it seriously?
If you actually want me to take this your brohaha seriously, provide the necessary documents like they asked such as articles of hausa running to Asaba from Enugu or any other SE region when conflict arise, until such necessary documents are provided, everything you are saying is disregarded as "trash".

@^^ I challenged the loud mouths including yourself who claimed to come from Asaba to disprove my so called "hypothesis". Sincerely, you are part of the problem of Nigeria promoting-  deliberate ignorance and engaging in sophistry [/b]to obscure the [b]truth or fact. If you are from Asaba or fleeing Hausa, why don't you confirm or disprove my assertion about the "traditional Edict" that forbade the harming of strangers or fleeing persons. My friend do not add to our collective confusion and ignorance. Just admit it that you do not know shikena . I wonder why some of you are mentioning faraway Enugu and Aba whereas the topic is about fleeing HAUSA in Onitsha. It is not about our silly egos or looking good or bad. It takes nothing away from you and your ilk . Have a good day .

One_Naira

You honestly thought what you said needed to be opposed or fought against. ROFLMFAO. I'm from Asaba and I barely paid mind to your dabbles, now imagine how a SE or anambra would have thought. It was easy to detect your purpose on that line of comments without bothering to analyze it

@^^ Why don't you confirm or disprove my hypothesis as PhysicsQED called it ? You can simply add to our pool of knowledge if you are from Asaba as you claimed and let's see if my "hypothesis" is right or wrong without sentiments or ethnocentrism. The truth shall set you free . I am not hating nor trying to put a wedge between brothers please . It is all for better understanding and knowledge about our various societies in Nigeria without falsehoods or sophistry by some air heads on NL. It is about proper education based on facts not sentiments . It does not diminish anybody to admit it, if we are wrong or right. It is not a contest or "war" either .

Onlytruth

If the bandits come out, then it would be time to RESTRUCTURE the police, not bringing back check points.
Check points are only seen in countries at war or under military rule. Nigerians should lose their military rule mentality.

@^^ Gbam +1000. Old habits die hard. Truthfully, Nigerians are masochists especially in the South of the country . I wonder why someone will complain about imaginary and non existent bandits, as if the police have actually prevented such robberies happening before now?

Onlytruth

Asaba is one of the most important part of Igboland. All these mischievious gimmicks [/b]by oafs can never hoodwink us umu Igbo. We are waiting for anybody that will mess with our land. Nuff said.

@^^ Eze Igbo NL, the salient points I made in my post should be very obvious to any serious "soldier" or "warrior" yet none of them was able to disprove my points. They went ballistic with the usual defensive sorry arse noises and curses peppered with the usual misinformation and "turanci". [b]Ignorance [/b]of what your "enemy" knows about you is the beginning of the end or loss of war . That was my point and not[b] presumptions nor assumptions or simplistic explanations - "distance" and "geography" lessons . All they could have done, is find out for themselves if I was wrong or right by doing their own research. After all they claim to be the foot soldiers of the Igbo race yet they lack basic awareness and understanding of their backyard. Perhaps they are lost in faraway lands hence their abject ignorance of their own society which the purported "enemy" knows very well. Sincerely, laziness and sloppiness is not an option in "war" and some loud mouths on NL should be cautioned and called to order as they know nothing about the backyard they claim to represent . I respect your views, especially on business and defence without the curses though .

Sagamite

Women would start demonstrating sense when they know the limitations of their strength and adjust their lives to make the best of it.

@^^ Profound words of wisdom . I hope strident NL females will read, think and understand the full import of the above statement.

Polygamy has always been a viable option. It's a choice no matter how some of us try to deny it. Our cheap twenty Naira policemen manage two to four wives let alone a fairly successful musician like TuFace from Benue-Nigeria .

Sagamite

Secondly, I can guarantee you that in the 13 years or whatever she has been with him, she has explored alternatives and did not find one hence why she stuck around and took what she could get. She's not stewpid!

I know women, they are not THAT altruistic.

@^^ +1000 Gbam .

gtrust

Cameroonian, Beninior and many Francophone Tailors are very good!
They spend time to learn the job,
they take it seriously and most of them are in it (tailoring) for life
and not some make-shift until they can 'make it thru some miracle'!

@^^+1000 Gbam!!!

Nnenna1

^^^^I remember watching a documentary on Somalia and how "clans" and their respective warlords have been the major cause of the state of the country today. While they are are physically homogeneous and identify as Somali, they have a[b] unique form of tribalism[/b] that has obviously gotten out of hand.

Much of Sub-Saharan Africa's problems are rooted in ethnocentrism and Xenophobia, IMO.

Thanks for the thoughtful message - I would also hope that you read my thoughts on how[b] things are a two-way street with respect to politics here [/b]and have taken up an equal amount of understanding on your part, but whatever decision you take is up to you. Heh.

@Nnenna ^^^ "It is said that if a person does not have any problem, then they'll have to invent one to keep busy". I think that the Somali have a heightened sense of clannishness in the absence of identifiable "other" (tribe), that is culturally and linguistically distinct from each other like in Nigeria, Ethiopia, Kenya, the Cameroons, Tanzania, South-Africa, DRC Congo et al . Tribalism is quite distinct from Intra-Tribal rivalry(clan(ish). In Rwanda the lines are blurred but the differences and conflict between the citizens was exacerbated by the Belgian colonial domination of the country- "Divide and and Conquer". Anyway, that's what enemies do or should be expected of the Belgians.

Much of our so called African 'problems', outwardly, may appear rooted in ethnocentrism and xenophobia but are they really? We can always and easily ascribe all of our problems to both fancy words because it has become very handy and easy. It does not employ any intellectual rigour by our lazy, posturing pseudo-intellectuals(elite). It is almost frustrating when we deliberately wish our lives away by employing failed or borrowed inapplicable methods from other people who never can wish us well in the first place, in tackling inherent African problems. For example, we can easily tackle problems pertaining to Law and Order if we try a little harder to look inwards for solutions. Since so called "in-dependence" of a lot of African countries, the new self appointed and installed ruling elite have consistently and systematically grabbed power for themselves to the exclusion of the  traditional institutions everywhere, perhaps not wholly perfect but we can at least synthesise and legitimise our values. I guess it is very easy not to delve into such systems because it might sabotage the power base of the new elite who are inherently decadent and corrupt. Sister, the subject is rather deep and a little time consuming for a NL forum like this. Besides, it is off topic . Maybe another day, another place and time, we'll have a lengthy conversation on perhaps a variety of topics close to my heart as a concerned African(Naija) in another forum/topic.

Yes it is a two way street. Personally, I cannot be flustered by foolish, ignorant loud mouth 'tribalists' or small minds because that's simply what it is . Do not let such mischief making individuals affect your sense of self please. .

Nnenna1

I also strongly believe that Nigerian potential would be fully realized[b] if the populace were homogeneous.[/b] I think that our number one undoing is this whole ethnic and religious hullabaloo that keeps us barking like wild dogs, feeling nothing close to love for Nigeria, and letting the real enemies continue to take us unaware while we do so.

It will actually be nice if a level of homogeneity is reached now but that won't happen in centuries - if Nigeria were to exist then, which is not likely, it seems.

@^^ Your post is so beautiful and thoughtful. I appreciate your sentiments. It is unfortunate that in the age of IPOD et al, most people find it difficult to read beyond headlines. It is also important that us as a people, need to exercise our minds a little more by reading, comprehending, listening and thinking or else we miss the "big picture", hence I am a little concerned about the perceived "defensive" attitudes of some NL Igbo. I hope with your very lovely post the "actors" or "pseudo-warriors" will have a rethink and tone down their "haughty" meaningless posts like any other Nigerian on NL. it is worrisome and wearisome too.

Homogeneity may help in national cohesion but our diversity is actually our strength. Is Somalia not one of the most homogeneous place on earth? We know of their total chaos, anarchy and almost 'permanent' self destructive war .
We lack creativity and we want easy answers to everything in our national and personal life. We are lazy. It is easier and profitable for the ruling elite to stir up/ encourage mundane 'tribal' differences in order to maintain their hold on the purse strings and power base(corruption).
I think that our problems stem from the fact that our Leadership is inherently wicked, self centred, lazy, visionless and self destructive too. We glamourise and legitimise our gross Leadership deficit by ascribing excuses like "tribalism" or "ethnicity" to grotesque behaviour. Deliberate ignorance and Laziness is a shocking indictment on us all. Just take a look at the local government and state levels. Most of our Nigerian [b]states [/b]are almost homogeneous but are they exactly a picture of good successful leadership? I don't think so .

PhysicsQED

lol, I think you should bow out of this thread already and admit your hypothesis was wrong. . .

@^^Maybe you're right or very wrong hence I was curious as to the reason(s) why a fleeing Hausa person will head for Asaba(Igbo) town instead of Obosi or some other nearby place in Anambra?. It's not just distance and geography alone that explains the desire to head for Asaba. It is a serious sociological enquiry. Let me give you a hint or part of the answer.

I am aware that there is a[b] traditional "Edict"[/b] against harming or killing of Strangers especially fleeing Hausa from across the Niger, by the traditional ruler and council of Asaba. Also, the people of Asaba it seems are scrupulously holding on to their ancient traditional values of hospitality towards strangers. It is considered an abomination and seriously objectionable to harm strangers just like any Igbo community. It is scrupulously observed and adhered to. It has nothing to do with size, distance or geography hence I advised posters to find out for themselves from the Hausa or from the indigenes of Asaba. It is obvious that the "enemy" knows a thing or two about the customs of his "pursuers", yet we have ignorant loud mouths who know nothing about their backyard giving us spurious geography lessons. It is like the great Oba of Benin with his council of Elders/advisers passing a traditional "Edict"in Benin City, do you think that it will not be obeyed or adhered to just because Benin is a so called "big" city or Capital of a modern Nigerian state? We should not forget that a majority of Nigerians are inherently traditional(world view) and are deferential to authority, traditional or government. I believe some Northern Emirs, may have similar authority or influence in their domain. Perhaps, mischievously, they do not wish to be proactive for a positive outcome. I may be wrong or perhaps I may not fully understand the constraints holding them back from doing the same like in Asaba and possibly in Benin too. Our traditional institutions and values have not died away because of so called "modernity". We can always look inwards and pick out those things that have helped us to maintain social cohesion and order in the absence of "Prisons" and "Police men" in our domain, before the arrival of destructive marauding Europeans and Arabs.

Da Infamous

In the words of 58 years old eye witness, Ifeanyi Uraih, who was a resident of Asaba then with his nine siblings and parents, “I cannot tell this story without tears in my eyes, but I have no bitterness in my heart… They ordered everyone to come out to the town square… They were honest with us. They told us they were going to kill us. They took us to the mounted machine guns. Then it dawned on us that it was true.

Well, the story is very[b] true[/b] and sadly he did not give the whole graphic details of the massacre, perhaps because it was too harrowing an experience for him. His whole family could have been wiped out but for divine intervention for those who believe in esoteric forces, on that fateful day .

On the part of the Federal Government, it is time we put this ugly part of our history permanently behind us by giving the dead deserving state burial and proper apologies rendered to the surviving families of these great Nigerians, whose blood were wasted by bloodlust and hate-mongering soldiers. Anything less is begging the question and it behoves us all as Nigerians to seek justice for the dead.

It is said that "Those who do not learn, master and understand the ways, habits and attitudes [/b]of their enemy, will certainly fail and perish many times". The Igbo have not learnt and unlikely to do so if the attitudes of those on NL is a pointer/ guide. There are so many hollow heads too hung up on cursing, addicted to bad language and miseducation.
Truthfully, Nigerians are so hateful of each other. It is unlikely that episode in Nigerian history is ever going to be acknowledged let alone deserving of any apologies whatsoever. It is the Nigerian way to bury our heads in the sand and deny the existence of the obvious. Did Lucky Joe not deny the Abuja bombing by Mend sometime ago, even when they claimed that they did set off some bombs? We are an inherently wicked people lacking in any form of compassion towards each other hence I am not exactly hopeful. What we have in abundance as a people is the ability to "forgive" and "forget" not because we are a good people but because we do not have a [b]sense of History and Posterity. It is reflected in our inability to think, plan and act for "tomorrow" as a serious people wanting to belong to the comity of "Nations". Nigeria cannot be regarded as a serious country let alone a Nation anytime in the distant future. When a so called country does not care for her citizens then it is not fit for purpose. Presently Chaos and Crises reign supreme everywhere. The police as usual are still killing citizens wily nilly with in impunity over twenty Naira in the Southern part of the country mainly. Such an environment cannot elicit any meaningful and lasting patriotism let alone love by so called citizens.

afam4eva

I meant to say the oppsite. It was a slip of keyboard. Does the sentence even make sense to you?

@^^Thank you for correcting the obvious mistake in your first post. I wonder why it took you so long? . Nevertheless, the "distance and geography" lessons does not explain away the reasons why "fleeing Hausas" from Onitsha run to Asaba .  Please, I am not hating nor trying to 'split' the brothers on both sides of the great river Niger. I hope that you'll be able to find out the answer for yourself from 'the Hausa' or from actual indigenes of Asaba. It is a simple enquiry and nothing to do with trying to drive a wedge between family members(Igbo). I am honestly puzzled about the shrill psychotic bad language on this forum. A conversation should not begin and end on silly curses and bad language as demonstrated by some ignorant persons on this thread. I don't think that Igbo culture and serious Igbo elders will approve of such [b]foolish [/b]behaviour by some noisy self appointed "guardians" of the Igbo race on NL. I hope they are not representative of the new and public face of the Igbo . It is very sad and ugly indeed .