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apatheticme:
Had to quote you on this thread!

Just know I'm rooting for you guys and always reading your diaries and write-ups. I learn a lot from them and I'm proud of you and others with enough sense to stand up against the male oppression!

I really don't have time to write and comment like before, cause I got my hands full; 9 to 5job, mothering, house work etc but I still log in once in a while to read and relax, though I may not comment.

Thumbs up girl

Thank you, this means a lot to me

Printme:
in your self justifying rants you failed to understand simple logic.

No one is demonizing women.

We are saying a child needs both parents. If the father left, the child will most likely turn out bad.

It's a fact. No matter how much you love women or want to praise them, it won't change this fact.

The question is, will you do better as a man?

Probably not. Because like most people you'd rather sweep facts under the carpet when presented to you.

Like you are doing now under this pretense of being a good guy

Start a thread then advicing men to stick behind and help raise their kids regardless of whether they are married to the mom or not.


The men who fathered kids from the single moms willfully and selfishly chose to abandon parenting of those kids to the mom just because they are not married to the women.

cococandy:
International association of Providers

They are on this thread https://www.nairaland.com/7976845/what-think-after-watching-tribe

Blaming single mothers for every problem under the sun, they will never admit they are part of the problem.

Nonsense people.

Printme:
like I said earlier, it shows how little you understand these things

Post statistics for Nigeria and stop writing nonsense.

Printme:
I hate when we talk about statistics and people just point at themselves and say "but I'm different"

It shows really how little you understand something.

72 percent of rapists were raised by single mothers.

It doesn't mean all children raised by single mothers are going to be rapist.

If you are not a rapist, you merely fall into the percentage that's not captured which in this case is 28 percent.

Let me put it this way again. If I randomly select 10 children raised by single mothers, 7 out of them will probably be a criminal. While the other 3 are not.

That's how statistic work. It's not about you.

Where is the statistics for Nigeria?

What's our business with USA or whatever country you pulled this bullshit statistics from?

I am just glad that sensible men also came and posted meaningful replies to this dumb woman hating thread.
At least there is hope that some men have working conscience.

Unlike the OP and other animals that choose to demonize single mothers who actually stayed behind to raise their kids instead of running away and abandoning them like their worthless dads.

The fact that a woman is not married to a man does not excuse the man from being present in their child or childrens lives, they can stay and help raise their kid and mentor him/her even if they are not married to the mom, but many men are irresponsible lazy pieces of shit that don't care whatever happens to their own offspring just because they are not married to the mom.

I am sure the idiot men supporting Op are aware of this but as usual you men will always blame women for everything including mistakes you make and problems you caused.

Thegoodone13:
. If you see any man beat his wife, try to find out the reason, most of time the woman is cheating on the man and the man is acting out of anger. I'm not encourage violence but if you know you can't do without cheating, don't married

What type of lie is this?
It's like you are just looking for a way to blame wives for husbands bad behaviour.
Men with cheating wives don't keep them back and beat them. They send the women away, men are not like women that forgive all sorts of atrocities by their spouse. Men dump cheating wives and move on because society doesn't stigmatize divorced men.

Gerrard59:
https://www.bbc.com/news/education-47057787

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/17/opinion/single-parent-families-income-inequality-college.html

https://www.npr.org/2023/10/22/1207322878/single-parent-married-good-for-children-inequality

https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20230818/p2a/00m/0na/015000c

https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20211225/p2g/00m/0bu/004000c

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0049089X10000153?via%3Dihub

https://www.bertelsmann-stiftung.de/en/publications/publication/did/lone-parent-families-in-germany

https://time.com/6317692/u-s-economy-two-parent-families/

https://www.degruyter.com/document/doi/10.56687/9781447333654-011/html?lang=en

Studies and reports from the US, Germany, Japan, Korea, Singapore and the UK.

Where is Nigerian survey, I want to check something

The typical response from Nigerians when confronted with facts after they went ahead to dispute them. When confronted with superior facts and information which renders theirs false, they become apprehensive because their I no fit lie give you, dem tell me say and trust me bro analogies don't work on the respondent.

What on earth does this even mean?
I pointed out the danger and harm of claiming that single mothers do a terrible job of raising children ie that women will be put under more pressure to tolerate so much crap from evil men just to have a partner and save their kids from being stigmatized, and I wasn't wrong ooo, I really think it's pure evil to make it seem like women in misogynistic countries like Nigeria cannot raise their kids without men in their lives when majority of the men hate women and think they have the right to control their lives and cheat on them.
If you can show me research that proves that single mothers in Nigeria do a worse job of raising kids than women that are raising kids with Nigerian men, I would really appreciate it.

Gerrard59:
As you stated, there are exceptions. Exceptions don't make the norm. It is a universal fact across countries with different cultures, sizes of economies, populations and religions.



It is not stigmatization to state that children raised in single parent homes, especially those headed by single mothers, perform poorly than those raised in two-parent households. How is that stigmatization? Facts prove that the best environment to raise children is within a two-parent household.



We should propagate facts again? Why should facts care about your feelings?

One last thing, the studies you mentioned, the ones that show that kids from single parent homes perform worse, post the links. I want to check something.

Gerrard59:
As you stated, there are exceptions. Exceptions don't make the norm. It is a universal fact across countries with different cultures, sizes of economies, populations and religions.



It is not stigmatization to state that children raised in single parent homes, especially those headed by single mothers, perform poorly than those raised in two-parent households. How is that stigmatization? Facts prove that the best environment to raise children is within a two-parent household.



We should propagate facts again? Why should facts care about your feelings?

Abeg no be fight, if you want to post on it feel free.
Go ahead.

Look at how quickly the mods pushed this worthless topic to frontpage just to encourage misogynistic and woman hating posts, meanwhile they quickly delete any comment that shows any bias against males.
Let me just find out the proper channel to report Nairaland for encouraging sexism and woman hate, I will get as many females as possible to report this site and get it shut down

Gerrard59:
It is not a hypothesis, but a fact. Children from single parent homes especially those from single mothers perform poorly in all ramifications compared to children from two-parent households. This is a universal fact.

Please I don't think we should be stigmatizing kids from single mothers as universally worse than kids from both parents.
There are exceptions, people like Barack Obama and Ben Carson were raised by single moms and made history in different fields.

When we stigmatized kids raised by single moms as universally worse, we put pressure on women to stay in terrible marriages and with abusive men just to avoid divorce and avoid the stigma their kids would bear from being raised by a single mom.
There is also the pressure widows would face to remarry just to avoid being labeled single mom whose kids are universally worse.
Many widows or women whose husbands abandoned them for other women rush into bad marriages with toxic partners that harm them and abuse their kids just because those women are desperate to remarry and avoid label of single mom.

Let's not propagate that idea, abeg. It's very harmful to women and kids from divorced parents.

GreatAchiever1:
How is this a bad thing if women are obsequiously submissive to their husbands. Do you think all men also enjoy providing and leading their wives. Don't you know that is hard-work but we have to do it anyway because it's our job to do it, just like it's your role to be submissive and there is nothing wrong or shameful in that.

Oga, majority of wives also provide along with their husbands, it's a role both parents should play if they decide to have kids. Just like housework and childcare should be the job of both parents, my problem with submission of a thing is that many men expect zombie slavery from their wives even men that have zero knowledge of what leadership means. Marriage should be partnership, not one party slave and the other party dictator. Decisions should be made in marriage based on mutual agreements on what is best for all parties involved.

Do you think it's all man who are irresponsible in marriage, these are the things to vet for when dating a man, but most of y'all wouldn't. Instead women would be looking at how financially rich he is, without paying attention to his moral character.
Feminism is deceiving you. The earlier you realize it, the better for you.

LMAO, feminism is not deceiving me, many men pretend before marriage to win a girls heart then show their true colors after the marriage, it's a common thing. Women actually vet men based on their behavior, it's not only money they look out for, it's just that some men are good liars and pretenders.

@topic, sorry for derailing. I agree that raising kids should be the job of both parents that have a good relationship and love and respect for each other. Babymamarism even if it's not always the best (because our society has evolved to demonise women that don't want to live under men in marriage,) it's still better than a toxic, loveless family where the father beats up his kids mom or cheats recklessly and exposes her to STDs and depression and loneliness.

I wish men would dedicate the same effort and time they use in criticizing women/females to calling out their fellow males bad behavior. Maybe then there will be less crimes and less corrupt leaders and less male violence in general.

DrFunmisticGlow:
Simple.
Women want to have children without the wahala of MEN.
Do you know how difficult it is to live with the average nigerian man? Firstly, A woman life is in danger when she encounters🍆, and everything 🍆 brings.

The average nigerian man cannot look after himself and need s a woman to do so for him. He is dirty and messy.. He has the potential to be physically abusive, unfaithful, small minded with a big and fragile ego. and the most annoying thing is she now has to be subservient to him in the institution called marriage. Her major benefit is that he foots the bills which isn't so much of an advantage today.

Now if she is offered the deal to have a child that is biologically hers without all the stress outlined above, and a stipend to boot? It is hard for some caliber of ladies to resist such temptation.

Well said.

Men are so full of themselves, they really think women enjoy the subservience and slavery and tolerating infidelity/selfishness of the men after marriage.

@OP, Ask yourself what would your reaction be if your girlfriend wanked to another man's naked video.
Nonsense thread.

delishpot:
You are on kolos or dry cow dung! Why can't a working man prepare food but a working woman is expected to? If the wife make this stupid excuse your long throat brain cooked up, will it fly with you?
Was he feeding from the gutter before he got married?
Are you normal or just a long throat like that idiot who thinks men can only eat when someone else cooks the food?
I ask again, if the wife goes to male neighbours house to eat everyday cos hubby is not bringing in enough cash for upkeep, will you say her excuse was valid?

@bold,

They want to be worshipped by women just because they are men. Always seeking undeserved and unrequited respect from women.
Very anyhow people.

delishpot:
Improperly brought up imps with small balls who think they deserve to be served hand and foot just cos they have p£nis€s. They are so annoying.

I no blame them, I blame the women that encourage their entitlement.
Many women no get self respect at all, they live to please men. That's the purpose of their existence.

delishpot:
The man is useless. So if his wife no cook for whatever reasons, he can't cook and pack a meal for himself? Even ordinary sandwich? He has long throat and it's his type they mostly poison to death through food and drinks.
He must chop from co workers plate? Can we also say that if a man can't meet family expenses for whatever reasons, his wife can start accepting money or eating from their male neighbour?
Those okaying his behavior are stupid like him too!

A lot of men are just entitled narcissists, see the way they are rejoicing because they heard that a woman is depriving herself of sleep because of her longthroat husband.

Assuming the tables are turned and it's a wife that is eating from same plate with her male colleague because her husband is too poor to afford food at home, the tone of this thread will take a very negative turn.

BloomingDale:
God forbid me to wake up so early to cook for any man.

I tire, if he wants to cheat he will just pour your food in Dustbin and continue using his colleagues spoon to eat.
Waking up 2:00am or whenever to cook never stopped any man from cheating.
But at least she made millions from the incident so something good came of it.

purples25:
Especially that guy who said he pets his wife and goes back to cheat.

So if it is in reverse they can't eat what they dish out.

Evidence that most of these males we love and interact with don't even consider us to be human beings like them.

But the evidence is everywhere, women just choose to stay blind and deluded.

BloomingDale:
In the case of Africans it’s mostly the religious bodies perpetuating such teachings. Africans especially women need to break away from those bodies.

Are you Nigerian?

BloomingDale:
Trying to drag leadership with a man? Oga, where them say men supposed be leaders and not women? Women are born natural leaders and make better decisions than men anyway. Most men are just overgrown crybabies like you. See the way you are crying on my post because you benefit massively from trying to keep a woman submissive. Feminists taking away your feeding bottle? You go cry tire.

I sincerely always enjoy reading posts like yours. When I see sensible women who have sense like you once in a while it honestly brightens my day.
I don't know why many women are still so nonchalant and love enabling their own subjugation, do they love being second class citizens? Are many women naturally foolish and lack the sense to stop being unthinking followers? I am still trying to wrap my head around it.

Anyways take care.

Me Op when will you create a topic that will address
1. Male robbers
2. Male rapists
3. Male one chance operators
4. Male kidnappers
5. Males that infected their wives with HIV because of their adulterous nature.
6., Males that rape their own daughters (incest)
7. Male yahoo boys
8. Male Cultists
9. Male corrupt politicians
10. Males that abandoned their families even after God told them to provide and love their wives

And so on and so forth.

You opened mouth waaaaa to claim women are worse than men like a typical woman hating Nigerian pastor.
Things like this make me tired of you men. Una too hate women, always trying to destroy or bring them down.

djon78:
Why do most Men complain?

What Men want self is simple: peace of mind

Many women nowadays can't give that

When even the Bible warned about being with a troublesome/ quarellsome woman


Showing the same thing
Men just want peace of mind and good marriages you see around have that combination of a woman offering her Man peace of mind

You think men give women peace? You really believe women fare better in marriages than men?
If you do then no wahala. I don't even have any interest in arguing.
Enjoy.

reddingtonblack:
if you can't see OP is not a sexist rather what he is suffering from is psychological problem then your likes don't deserve his commitment.

Lwkmd,
You males really think highly of yourselvrs don't you?
What on earth could I possibly need his commitment for?

Earth is filled with so many natural disaster, you don't see humans evacuating to pluto, instead over the years Men have evolve and learn how to survive natural disaster. think

So females are natural disasters?
You men rob, rape, kill, kidnap, terrorize, loot treasury like no man's business, but females are the natural disasters?

Oga please like I said before, you guys should just have fun and enjoy your delusions.

Magnoliaa:
But they will not stop rushing into it, and complaining about a lack of intimacy from women.

I honestly don't understand this thread nor its point. Stay alone and save yourself the hassle of being with a woman na. What's hard there?

I wish men like the OP would simply avoid marriage and avoid women totally.
Let him not use his sexist mindset and behaviour to torment one innocent woman.

I don't even know what these males want. They think females are terrible and problematic but they are here giving advice on how to stay with the same problematic females.

All of you should just avoid us females altogether.

Thanks.