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I'm having a discussion with an ex-Pirates member - I'm not even sure if he left Pirates but he's not in the country & is elderly - so I guessed.

He said the Pirates Confraternity was pulled out of the school system in the '80s. I dont think he would lie but from experience I like to double-check these things.

I'd appreciate If anyone could clear this up. Thanks.

Now I'm even more convinced than earlier that you're a dullard.

Whenever you're done, you can get on with your life. Just dont forget what I told you today.

Peace. My regards to your mom.

kingthreat:
You lied.
I didnt promote Skull and Bones for the Nigerian society. It is based in Yale university and has no tentacles in Africa.
There is no media proof they murdered anyone. Or can you swear with your life that they are behind killings.
They have produced many presidents. Is stating facts, now a promotion of cultism?
The only thing I tried to do was separate them from the cultism madness we do here.
Read more about them here if you want. Abeg die the matter.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skull_and_Bones

Your opinion that advances a criminal activity or association puts you up as a criminal. You should be scolded for it & you could be arrested for it.

On your religious affliation, thats legal, whatever your religious beliefs are, no one can question that as long as illegal acts are not involved. So your opinion counts then. You can worship sand & run away with it.

I hope you spot the difference?

As for your mom, my prayers are with her. No mother deserves a son like you.

kingthreat:
Hahaha, your brains are just plain faeces, zero gray matter. Didn't your mother tell you not to throw insults first at people. You think Im an houseboy, give up your details lets hook up if you are in SW. I am no cultist, but you can try one on one with me and see how it goes. In physical, online, you're an inconsequential. Its obvious you're new to Nairaland. Next time, when an opinion doesn't sound good to you, ignore and dont like. Don't quote with insults like a meth addict.

...behind a keypad, over a faceless forum is not where serious people have someone's time. Heck! I could have been exchanging text with a househelp or someone who couldnt look me in the face on the real. Thats exactly the image you project.

That time you think you have for me & that fired up emotion is a waste that could have been put into something more productive.

You have been grossly uncouth. This is a public group, behave your self & most importantly do not derail the thread.

kingthreat:
I know what i said. You sound like one with your fuvked up sense of reasoning. Jobless mofo. I have your time today

haha!

You did well to point that out, monicar - moniker, noted.

On your part, google 'illiterate'.

kingthreat:
The word is "moniker". Even when you want to attest falsehood, dont sound like an illiterate.

Okay. Thank you for avoiding my posts. Continue to do that on this & your other monicar(s).

Lastly, #SayNoToCultism ALWAYS.

kingthreat:
How dare you insult my opinion, you dickheaded product of anal insemination. I usually ignore your foolish posts where you always claim to have the best opinion about everything when you actually know nothing. America is the greatest nation on Earth and fraternities were part of its history. Some are educational fraternities, others are for other purposes. If these fraternities were plainly evil, nonentities like you will not want to step your foot in the USA.

As for any other person that chooses to make my opinion their case, this is for you. If you praise American presidents but insult the fraternities that made them, you're a fucking hypocrite. Because we brought madness into frats in Nigeria doesn't make the idea of people coming together under a brotherhood evil. If you think I am pro-cultism, read my previous posts.

Lol. So the Japanese, French, Hong Kong, Swiss, Italians, English, Spanish etc are beneath the Igbos?

Y'all igbos can overestimate yourselves. You're still the least of the 3 major ethnic groups in Nigeria on most economic indices but you're out here rubbing shoulders with China & India.

Hilarious bunch, lol

proeast:
This is not a dick measuring exercise please. The list is all over the internet, and a simple Google search will give you the answer you need.

Thank you!

Lool.
Thats actually what they are. One million boys with a fancier name.

LostAddict:
He talked about major campus fraternities not street urchins .

All them greenland, iceland etc. are they not 'sailors'?

LostAddict:
I think the last one should be Warlords Confraternity (Azriel), I stand to be corrected though.

"if skull & bones starts in Nigeria, nothing good will come out of it"

You strike me as someone who acts before they think. If you have exercised some restraint & given the whole thing a thought, the above idea would have struck you easily.

Instead of spewing half thoughts & striking us as a cult apologetic dullard before becoming reasonable.

kingthreat:
For the sake of this thread. I will agree with you. Because if a skull and Bones fraternity starts in Nigeria, nothing good will come out from it. Have a nice day

Our newspace has been awash with yesterday's event involving Keyamo & the senate committee.

People on different fora have picked sides and trust Nigerians to be sensational & sentimental without even understanding the issues that played out & what led to the drama.

Usually Keyamo (through his ministry) provides policy guidelines on how the 774k job recruitment will be done. The requisite agency (NDE) would execute, then the senate committee oversees.

When news came on with Tinubu & Oluomo's daughters as members of the job committee, the senate invited NDE to explain how it came about the names. Out of 20 members, the NDE could only identify 8, the others came from the ministry (Keyamo) which should not be.

In comes Keyamo; the drama was after he was asked to explain the names & why he interfered with NDE duties. He became rude & dramatic & was asked to leave.

The senators asking that cameras be shut off during an executive session is not unusual anywhere in the world.

Keyamo is being smart by half.

Vanzcharles

You stated earlier that every cult group needed a story/folklore to start up, one that will instill fear in new initiates. Please whats the story for PC, SEC, SVC, BAN etc.

Also every information on Charles Kokoma was expunged out of bl.ack a.xe when it was time to register it as NBM. This was the patron's idea as adding Charles' name & with the story already out would amount to admitting to murder on public & legal records. Back then they even had an LP on him.

However, I do not wish to pursue this argument any further. If you insist Charles & Janet are folklore, then thats okay. We agree to disagree I guess.

I'm not heavy on name dropping but your submission is solid.

swankyshank:
The Charles Kokoma and Janet story is 100% true. They only used pseudonyms in the identification. One of the founding nine members is retired DIG Marvel Akpoyibo (former CP Lagos). He was the founding CP - Chief Priest (second in heirachy a.k.a The right hand) of the movement. This was after tried to join the pyrates in Uniben but was rejected.

Vanzcharles

Folklore? The ones who died after Charles & Janet were folklore too? Do you know those two are said to be the first BKB deaths & how NBM became so feared? Do you know one reason NBM was setup was to checkmate PC in Uniben? They came to fight. Ask any serious NBM person, the price for betrayal is beheading. If Charles' beheading was folklore, so when did it start?

Let me share a story:

An important member of NBM repented some years back. He confessed all his sins but muddled up his cult affliation. No mention of the cult he was actually a strong member of. People who are not in the know will say they heard it from the horse's mouth but the horse wasnt truthful in that instance.

My point is with these guys you must always crosscheck their stories.

The person who didnt turn up was Tokunbo Brown, the patron Prof. changed the name from Bl.ack ax.e men to Neo-black movement.

Cultist like to say "Who no go, no know" but a lot of them dont know much about the history of their society, they only know about the lingos, drilling & hits.

Let me talk about NBM for instance. NBM was created by 10 founders but their history says 9 because the others killed the missing one - Charles Kokoma for betrayal - BKB. It is suspected that he helped brew the first NBM rum - NBM drink is called Kokoma.

NBM drilling is called Janetting. Janet was the gf of one of the founders, she betrayed NBM & died when she was being drilled, I suspect she was Charles' gf.

For these deaths, the first temple FJ was called 'Murder temple' not Mother Temple as people call it now.

Do you know a Buccaneer did the first initiation for the founders of NBM before handing over to one of them? Do you know that the founders thought about Brothers of Barracacans before picking the name Bla.ck Ax.e Men - BAM. Thats how the word 'bamming' came about.

Btw, barracacans is another name for vikings, lol.

I like the suggestions pouring in. Lets keep the energy pls. However, I differ with the idea that cultism can not be eradicated. The task might seem daunting but we must face it squarely as an individual, society & government.

If the people who fought for the abolishment of slave trade decided to manage it, you would probably be on a plantation in North Carolina planting cotton.

You dont manage a disease that has a cure. You can not manage a menace like cultism, lets not kid ourselves. If anyone could, Prof. & Rica would have done so, Felix Rupa would have done it.

The way to defeat the evil called cultism is to cut its head off. You want to manage cultism in tertiary institutions as per professional course or what? Cultism has no place in a progressive society.

Can you propose that idea to owners of Nile Uni, Covenant or ABTI? To manage & accomodate cultism in their billion naira investment?

Cultism must stop. Lets stand on that. It wont happen in a day, gradually the day will come.

Nothing to see here, just another attention seeker.

I wrote about how cultism has been reduced to the barest minimum in a school like unilag, someone mentioned how thats funny cos someone was killed in unilag in 2010. Ten years ago! Lol

This thread is to expose cultism for the evil it is. Some of us dont stop there, we go further proferring ideas & solutions on how to defeat cultism. You can not tell who is reading.

As for the Unilag incident that happened 10 years ago, the guy who they wanted to hit was 'Sky' he escaped & his friend 'Eiyele' got hit. I dont want to bother you with details of the aftermath but Sky had to leave unilag & environs after the heat was turned on him. He came from another school to unilag but it didnt take him long to figure unilag was different.

Same with schools like OAU. I dont want to know how rugged you are, or your rank. If you fly a beret in Ife, I guarantee that your life will never be the same again.

I hope & pray for a day when this replicated in all our tertiary institutions.

I dont have to read to know. I was a witness. If about 10 people die for cultism to end in each of LASU, UNIBEN, Ekpoma, Uniport etc. its an offer I would gladly take.

Mark you, the number of people who died as a result of the renounciation exercise in Unilag were not up to 10.

OBelz:
Unilag!!! After the open renouncement did you know the deaths that followed as a result of such excercise. Killings in Yabatech & FCE. Just read few pages back some highlighted what happened then.

Each environment is unique. It doesnt have to be the Unilag way but I'm sure there's a way.

Pierced:
Not really true.

In places like SS.....u can't totally renounce and still be living in that area.

If u are going renounce.....make sure u are moving to another location.....and try as much as possible to keep a low profile.

Places such as Benin and PH......is a crazy place to renounce cultism and still be living there.

You're right tho. Being in Lagos & its location (in the middle of the town) doesnt favour certain acts. There's an army barracks 5 mins away. Police response time is less than 30 mins. Plus most student live on campus. I could ago on & on. Unilag is not the ideal rugged cultist settings.

But even in Uniben, it can be done. Where there is a will, there's a way.

Kingfish542:
its not everywhere such thing can happen,its not even possible in benin sef

The cults did go after a few but a lot of people renounced. They couldnt possibly kill everyone of them.

Also the ones who had renounced were providing info to the school/police on the others who didnt.

Kingfish542:
how do they renounce by school events or even government events....won't ur fellow peers that didn't renounce come after you

98% of students in Uni in 2003 had phones 98%


Where did you study?

Bagehot:
Dude, I got into pre-degree in 2003 and had a lime-green 3410 (a slight upgrade on 3310), so I'm pretty certain of my dates. As at 2001/2002, I had three guys in my class in SS 2 with phones - 3310, Sagem and cant remember the 3rd one. In 2003 when I got into uni, 98% of the population had phones. By early 2004, a number of folks at school were using phones like Side-kick, Nokia Ngage, Nokia 3650 (curved bottom) etc.

Julifeisgood

Unilag has never really been a hotbed for cult violence. In the 90s, they had alot of cultists but much of the fracas then was mainly SUG related.

I would say 'Yele was able to create peace between all the parties, he didnt really eradicate them. Even 'Yele is suspected in some quarters. Remember Prof. was at his trial & also if you google the photos, you'd notice 'Yele dressed abit funny on that day & the photographs caught some spooky handshakes. All that could still be wrong tho.

The eradication of cultism in Unilag was in '99 after it was established boys in Unilag organised the OAU incident. The then VC initiated a fierce & vigorous anti-cultism exercise. The heat became too much for cultists & alot of them renounced at events organised by the school. The cult groups tried to fight back but the school won. Final nail in the coffin for cultism in Unilag was the abolishment of SUG.

This is my opinion based on experience & the little info at my disposal.

I hate to argue personal details of your life with you but you really need to check your dates Sir.

Bagehot:
I owned my first phone in 2003 just after SS 3, while I had 3 guys in my class who had phones since SS 2,so owning a phone back then wasn't far-fetched.

Yea, you're observant. He has an idea.

whothiefmymoney:
been wanting to say this but remember that guy dat deactivated and said he came from a polygamous home and talked about how a cult group is ordering and stocking weapons upon weapons? I think he may have been talking about something relating to what you said now

Sad.

Its usually the ones that have people who love them so much & would do anything for them & they end up blowing it all away.

kereman1:
The way John cried begging for his life to be saved by his father he so much loath,
John tori plenty, he first gained adm into UNN, but his cult activities cudnt let him stay here, his dad processed another adm for him into fed poly nekede, he complained dat he cudnt stood too low by going to polytechnic, his dad is a lecturer @ only college of edu in imo state, his dad pleaded wit him to enroll dat all he need do is to come for exams, he will sort out d rest, but he abruptly refuse.

John said FUTO or nothing, thank God he wasn't successful, if not, maybe the
"Unity in diversity" wey I dey chant for be "aromate"...

Kereman1

hahaha!!! You're so bleeping right about the crying & catarrh.

I just pity all the young boys who have been misled & are at the mercy of their seniors in the game. Most of your leaders are not as tough & brutal as they appear. Its just an act, or alcohol/drug induced.

When the chips are down, they're known to cry like babies. The same police they teach you to disrespect & disregard so much become their 'Sir' 'Daddy' 'Bros'

Just stay away from cultists & cultism please.

Pls continue & finish your story here.

Ibromighty:
i don't tink so,but why did

This is beer parlor talk with zero value.

IT IS NOT TRUE.

ekene101:
wen e be say one man like dat wey no dey go on leave or transfer na strong member,wetin/who u expect to control Benin..
PS: I no mention anybody name o.

Yeah. Same here. Have you heard anything about what the problem might be?

rasheylaw:
Anyone experiencing this today?
I can't make calls or send messages with my glo line but my data connection is working perfectly

NEVER

Passionate888:
Is
he
a member for real?