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ayenny02: It is universally believed, in both the Christian and the Muslim worlds, that Jesus will come again to this world at the end of the age.

I propose to make a brief study of both the Christian and Islamic teachings about the return of Jesus Christ from heaven and to know which religion jesus will practice when he comes back between the two religion.

In christianity we have many bible, many churches, many Gods and many doctrine with different ideologies and they are not worship in the same church

while

In islam,we have one Quran, one God, many sects but worship in the same mosque, believe in the same God and facing the same Qibla

LET SEE THE VERSES FROM BIBLE AND ISLAM OF COMING BACK OF JESUS CHRIST

1. THE RETURN OF JESUS IN THE BIBLE.

Matthew 16:27   For the Son of Man is going to come in his Father's glory with his angels, and then he will reward each person according to what he has done.


Matthew 24:30  "At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and all the nations of the earth will mourn.  they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky, with power and great glory. 

Matthew 24: 36-39  No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.   As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man.   For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark;  and they knew nothng about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away.  That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man.


Mark 8:36-38    What good is it for a man to gain the whole world, yet forfeit his soul? Or what can a man give in exchange for his soul?  If anyone is ashamed of me and my words in this adulterous and sinful generation, the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when he comes in his Father's glory with holy angels.

2. THE RETURN OF JESUS IN ISLAM

Furthermore, Allah (God) also says in the Quran, "And he (Jesus shall be a Sign (for the coming of) the Hour (of Resurrection); therefore have no doubt about it (the Hour). And follow me (Allah), this is a Straight Path." (Quran 43: 61)

Huzaifa bin Usaid  reported that Prophet Mohammad suddenly came to us while we were talking. He asked, "What are you talking about?" We replied "We were talking about the Last Hour." Prophet (s) said, "It will never come until you see ten signs before it. He then mentioned the Smoke, the Dajjal (Anti-Christ), the Daabba, the Rising of the Sun from the place of its setting, the Descent of Jesus son of Mary (from Heaven), Yajuj and Ma'juj (Gog & MaGog)..."  (Sahih Muslim)

 

Prophet Mohammad said: "In the meantime, while the Dajjal will be busy doing this and this, Allah will send down the Messiah son of Mary (Jesus). He (Jesus) will descend in the eastern part of Damascus, near the white minaret (tower), dressed in the two yellow garments, with his hands resting on the arms of two angels. When he will bend down his head, water drops will appear trickling down, and when he will raise it, it will appear as though pearl--like drops are rolling down. Any disbeliever whom the air of his breath reaches, and it will reach up to the last limit of his sight, will fall dead. Then, the son of Mary will go in pursuit of the Dajjal, and will overtake him at the gate of Lud , and will kill him." (Sahih Muslim, Abu Dawud, Tirmizi, Ibn Majah).

QUESTION
*Which one is the straight path jesus will follow when comes back

uplawal: A  muslim should never copy the KUFFAR(XTIANS,JEWS AND OTHER IDOLATERS) in ways of life or religion
A muslim should always be ready to kill and die for Allah(swt)if it requires it
A muslim should not do registry marriage(state laws marriage) but only Sharia Marriage,not celebrate unnecessary anniversaries e.g, weddding,birthdays, mothers day,fathers day etc,
A muslim should always have the fear of Allah and always seek forgiveness from his creator
A muslim should always observe SALAWAT(SOLAT) at the right time and always purified before his LORD
A muslim should always be mindful of whatever we say or remain silent cos all we say is recorded by the ever obeying servants(Angels)
A muslim should remeber Allah at all times and be greatful,e.g,if you miss your bus,say with thankfulness ALHAMDULLILAH,instead of frowning and getting sad
A muslim should love Allah with all his or her hearts,mind and soul and always seek knowledge in the deen properly




I LOVE ISLAM,ITS MY JOY, I WILL BE BACK FULLY,LOVE YOU ALL,ASALAMU ALEKUM MY ALE SUNNA

Joeblis: And my post was hidden because i wrote these are common steps to stop mas.turbation and i can provide about 20 artcls where similar thing was written..even in wikipedia

Alfa Seltzer: Many christians, when confronted with the evils of the old testament, claim that the new testament is the real deal. The problem is that most of them have never read any testament, old or new. If you think the old testament was bad, the new testament is even worse.

I will use this thread to go through the new testament and dismantle it. It is not the good news they claim it to be. Infact, far from being a good news, it is the most depressing and damning news any human being will want to hear.

Grab your bible and stay tuned.

lanrexlan: Refuting the Idolators Who appoint Rivals to Allah and claim that the Angels were Females
,Allah the Exalted said,
ﺃَﻓَﺮَﺃَﻳْﺘُﻢُ ﺍﻟﻠَّﺎﺕَ ﺍﻟﻠَّﺎﺕَ ﻭَﺍﻟْﻌُﺰَّﻯ
ﻭَﻣَﻨَﺎﺓَ ﺍﻟﺜَّﺎﻟِﺜَﺔَ ﺍﻟْﺄُﺧْﺮَﻯ
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Have you then considered Al-Lat, and Al-`Uzza.And Manat, the
other third,then Allah said,
ﺃَﻟَﻜُﻢُ ﺍﻟﺬَّﻛَﺮُ ﻭَﻟَﻪُ ﺍﻟْﺄُﻧﺜَﻰ
﴿٢١﴾
Is it for you the males and for Him the females?
Allah asked the idolators,do you choose female offspring for Allah and give preference to yourselves with the males If you made this division between yourselves and the created,it would
be,ﺗِﻠْﻚَ ﺇِﺫًﺍ ﻗِﺴْﻤَﺔٌ ﺿِﻴﺰَﻯ
﴿٢٢﴾
a division most unfair!meaning,it would be an unfair and unjust division.How is it then that you make this division between you and Allah,even though this `How is it then
that you make this division between you and Allah,even though
this would be foolish and unjust,if you made it between
yourselves and others?'
Allah the Exalted refutes such innovated lies,falsehood and
atheism they invented through worshipping the idols and calling
them gods,
ﺇِﻥْ ﻫِﻲَ ﺇِﻟَّﺎ ﺃَﺳْﻤَﺎﺀ ﺳَﻤَّﻴْﺘُﻤُﻮﻫَﺎ ﺃَﻧﺘُﻢْ ﻭَﺁﺑَﺎﺅُﻛُﻢ ...
They are but names which you have named -- you and your
fathers,(of your own desire),
... ﻣَّﺎ ﺃَﻧﺰَﻝَ ﺍﻟﻠَّﻪُ ﺑِﻬَﺎ ﻣِﻦ ﺳُﻠْﻄَﺎﻥٍ ...
for which Allah has sent down no authority.
meaning,proof,
... ﺇِﻥ ﻳَﺘَّﺒِﻌُﻮﻥَ ﺇِﻟَّﺎ ﺍﻟﻈَّﻦَّ ﻭَﻣَﺎ ﺗَﻬْﻮَﻯ ﺍﻟْﺄَﻧﻔُﺲُ ...
They follow but a guess and that which they themselves desire,
they have no proof, except their trust in their forefathers who took
this false path in the past, as well as, their lusts and desires to
become leaders, and thereby gain honor and reverence for their
forefathers,
...
ﻭَﻟَﻘَﺪْ ﺟَﺎﺀﻫُﻢ ﻣِّﻦ ﺭَّﺑِّﻬِﻢُ ﺍﻟْﻬُﺪَﻯ
﴿٢٣﴾

andromida: How can a corrupt book validate a "holy book" that is supposed to be complete.

submitter: Prophecy Servant of God
` ` ` ` ` ` ` `
word Atmak not necessarily means ‘whom I uphold’ but is infact a name

the writing of Atmak is אתמך
the writing of Ahmad is אחמד

Isaiah 42:1
God says
“Behold, 'My Servant' (pronounced as Abd-ee), ‘whom I uphold’ (pronounced as Atmak);

God mentioning about the coming of His servant
Behold My Servant Ahmad (Isaiah 42:1) - so who is this Ahmad as in God'servant?

He is none other than
Abd-Allah Ahmad (Servant of God, Ahmad) - Prophet Muhammad s.a.w

andromida: This is the bible verse i know which speaks of mohammed.

Ezekiel 8:15-16 Then said he unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations than these.

And he brought me into the inner court of the Lord's house, and, behold, at the door of the temple of the Lord, between the porch and the altar, were about five and twenty men, with their backs toward the temple of the Lord, and their faces toward the east; and they worshipped the sun toward the east.

Apparently in the OT it is an abomination to turn your backs toward the temple of the lord and face the east and guess who said its just right to face the east and back the temple of God.

Secondly it is obvious that before the arrival of mohammed on the scene this practice had been in place and it is abominable to God. Why is it abominable to God and why did mohammed make it legit?

ManirBK: EARLY CHRISTIANS PROSTRATION
AND PRAYER MATS: CHRISTIANS
PRAYING LIKE MUSLIMS.

Early Chistians Prayed Like Muslims
and Jesus...
Speaking of the 7th century,
Diarmaid McCulloch tells the
Christians were praying like
Muslims before the coming of
Islam:
…the characteristic prostration of
Muslim prayer was then normal in
the Christian Middle East, where it
still survives in some traditional
Christian communities. Prayer
mats, still one of the most familiar
features of the mosque today,
were extensively used by the
Christian monks as far apart as
Syria and Northumbria or Ireland
before the coming of Islam. [A
History of Christianity, Diarmaid
McCulloch, Penguin Group, 2009,
p258]
Why would early Christians pray
like Muslims?
Could it have anything to do with
Prophet Jesus (p) worshipping
God in the manner in which
Muslims pray? In fact, even
Christian sources point to this:
Going a little farther, he fell with
his face to the ground and
prayed, “My Father, if it is possible,
may this cup be taken from me.
Yet not as I will, but as you
will.” [Matthew 26: 39, NIV]
Going a little farther, he fell to the
ground and prayed that if
possible the hour might pass
from him. “Abba,[a] Father,” he
said, “everything is possible for
you. Take this cup from me. Yet
not what I will, but what you
will.” [Mark 14:35-36, NIV]
Also see: Luke 22:39-46
Apart from the glaring theological
problem which Trinitarians
encounter from such passages
(i.e. that of Jesus worshipping
God!) we can clearly see that Jesus
appears to pray in the manner of
the Muslims according to Christian
sources. Thus, from these
passages we can understand the
usage of prayer mats within
Christian communities prior to the
coming of Islam.
Note: The word Father (Abba) is
simply a Jewish term for God. It is
not to be taken literally, Professor
Geza Vermes writes: Jesus prayed
there in the solitude, invoking God
as ‘Abba’, ‘Father’ or My Father’.
The word is given in Aramaic in
Mark and in Greek in Matthew and
Luke. Abba is a familiar but also
respectful expression. It is not the
equivalent of ‘Daddy’, as some
New Testament scholars have
unwisely ventured to propose.
[‘Jesus’ Nativity-Passion-
Resurrection, Geza Vermes,
Penguin books, 2008, p. 208]

lanrexlan: THEY FOLLOW
NOTHING BUT CONJECTURE and what their own souls
desire!- Even though there has already come to them
Guidance from their Lord![/b]Who is [b]THEY referring to? The arab pagans,Allah said the arab pagans follow nothing but conjecture by worshipping the three idols even though prophet muhammed(pbuh) has come to them with guidance from Allah.Is it hard to comprehend?.....Peace

lanrexlan: THEY FOLLOW
NOTHING BUT CONJECTURE and what their own souls
desire!- Even though there has already come to them
Guidance from their Lord![/b]Who is [b]THEY referring to? The arab pagans,Allah said the arab pagans follow nothing but conjecture by worshipping the three idols even though prophet muhammed(pbuh) has come to them with guidance from Allah.Is it hard to comprehend?.....Peace

lanrexlan: THEY FOLLOW
NOTHING BUT CONJECTURE and what their own souls
desire!- Even though there has already come to them
Guidance from their Lord![/b]Who is [b]THEY referring to? The arab pagans,Allah said the arab pagans follow nothing but conjecture by worshipping the three idols even though prophet muhammed(pbuh) has come to them with guidance from Allah.Is it hard to comprehend?.....Peace

ayenny02: Mr Man don't give yourself hypertension now, I told you not to derail the thread open another thread and invite me. If u open the thread and nobody attend to you for the challenge why not you go to any Muslims thread and paste your thread link for challenge, I hope they will answer you. Pls open the thread anywhere and invite me insha-Allahu I will respond.

Pls answer the OP because I challenged Christians to answer my question unfortunately nobody respond except DESIKA and also I noticed that desika is not a christian. Where are other christians to answer the questions?

olajide21: To start with who created the Jinns? Who Created Man? You are probably thinking that the Human race are the only creature of Allah?..... While other religions are not detail in most of the spheres of life, Islam is so detailed. There are demons in the Jinns and there are Believers amongst them, just as there are believers and devils amongst men!!!!!!
So in view of what i have said, If all of Man and Jinn come together, they can never produce the likes of the Qur'an!!!!!.......

olajide21: Guy!!!!! wetin be shakir 4:82?
i wonder why some of you would want to make comment about Al-Islam without making few researches......
Dont be afraid pick a copy of Al- Qur'an and genuinely seek knowledge there in......... If in the process, you stumbled on verses you dont understand, post it and we would discuss it.
My BELOVED BROTHER AYENNY 02 had asked simple question, all he wanted was simple answers...... WHY NOT PROVIDE THEM!!!!!!

ayenny02: MR MAN, are you here to answer my question or to derail the topic, if you want to answer the OP pls do or stay away, if you don't see anybody to answer you from islam section is that means you shud come here to derail the thread.
Don't worry am sure your question should have answered by my muslims brother.

ayenny02: QUESTION 1. Christians claim that Jesus acknowledged that he and God were one in the sense of nature when he says in John 10:30 "I and my father are one". Later on in John 17:21-23, Jesus refers to his followers and himself and God as one in five places. So why did they give the previous "one" a different meaning from the other five "ones?

 
 
QUESTION 2. Why does the Bible say that Jesus wanted to die on the cross, when the one on the cross was shouting "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?" according to Matthew 27:45 and Mark 15:33?
 

QUESTION 3. Christians say that people go to Heaven ONLY THROUGH JESUS, yet Paul says in 1 CORINTHIANS 7:8-16 that the unbelieving husband is acceptable to God because he is united with his wife and vice versa, and their pagan children are also acceptable to God. So people can go to heaven without believing in Jesus according to this

 
QUESTION 4. Christians say that the Paraclete means the Holy Spirit (John 14;26). Jesus said in John 16:7-8 "If I do not go away the Paraclete will not come to you". This could not mean the Holy spirit, since the Holy spirit was said to have been there before Jesus was even born as in Luke 1:41 "Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit". Here, the Holy spirit was also present during Jesus life time. So how could this fit with the condition that Jesus must go away so that the Holy spirit will come?  


QUESTION 5. If the Holy Spirit dictates what Christian should do, why do Christians commit sins and make mistakes ? How can you explain the conversion to other religions and atheism of many Christians? Are they told to do that by the Holy Spirit?
 


 
If you read Matthew (28:1-10), Mark (16:1-20), Luke (24:1-12), and John (20: 1-18), you will find contradicting stories. They all agreed that the tomb was guarded for three days. However, they reported the discovery of the empty tomb differently.

Matthew (28) and John (20) reported that Mary Magdalene and the other Mary were the first to discover the tomb.

Mark (16) reports that Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome were the first to discover the empty tomb.

Mark (28) reports that there was an earthquake that removed the rock from over the tomb. He says that an angel caused it. The other gospels do not mention of an earthquake.

 

Matthew and Mark say that only ONE man in white clothes was sitting on the tomb when the woman arrived, and that he was an angel.

Luke says that TWO men in white clothes, who were angels, were sitting. Johns says that the two women did not meet anybody the first time they came to the tomb, but when they returned, they saw TWO people, ONE was an ANGEL, and the other was JESUS.

Matthew reports that when the guards reported this to the chief priest, the chief priest paid them a large sum of money, telling them: "You have to say that his disciples came at night and stole his body." He claims that the soldiers took money and spread the story around and since then, the story had been circulating among the Jews until today (according to Matthew). The other gospels do not report of any such thing.


QUESTION 6. Which narration now is more authentic?


QUESTION 7. Why doesn’t Mark 16:9-20 exist in as many versions of the Bible while it exists as a footnote or between brackets in some other versions? Is a footnote in the Bible still considered as God’s word, especially when it addresses an important feature like the Ascension?


QUESTION 8. Why does the Catholic Bible contain 73 books while the Protestant Bible has only 66? With both claiming to have the complete Word of God, which one should be believed and why?


QUESTION 9.As a Christian, do you agree that out of fairness and honesty you must investigate what Islam says about God, Jesus, including this life and the hereafter?


QUESTION10. Being a Christian, do you also believe that we must all stand accountable to our Creator and that the Creator is Perfect and Just? As a sincere believer in God, don’t you owe it upon yourself to find out the entire unadulterated truth regardless of the consequences



I NEED ANSWER ONE BY ONE FROM ANYBODY AS A CHRISTIAN