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ochongonoko: Dude, owlneal nominated elikem cos of his hatred for WA. You need to watch the way he said. He said

"Like I said earlier on biggie, I nominate elikem cos I want to stop this stupid notion that WA is untouchable. I want them ALL out"

He added that childish stuff to Deceive peeps like
You

I don't give a fucck what anyone says but I will vote elikem whether beverly is there or not.

If he nominated Elikem solely cos of d WA thingy, he wud hv extended same favor to Bev nd Mel. O'neal lives in a world whr he belivs he is d most intelligent person wc on its own is a childish tendency. Elikem always wnt to get into evry argument cos he tinks he'l come up wit d soundest idea(also shows immaturity). The two r more lyk know know but Elikem is more foolish, probably cos of his age wc is not an excuse cos at 24 u ought to b a man. Observe Bimp's attitude, he listens to evryone else's ideas nd gives his own and wheneva thr is a disagreement he respects d fact tht evryone is entitled to his opinion. To me, if thr is 1 person in d house i'd wnt as a buddy, it has to b Bimp. All d patroitism nd regionalism aside, Bimp deserves to win

ochongonoko: I feel like slapping owlneal, dude is so so bitter and wicked

What a lost soul

Even his cohorts, sulu, nando, annabelle, feza has forgotten about this WA hatred and yet owlneal doesn't wanna let go


BBA is encouraging bigotry and it pisses me off. Can anybody warn or talk to biggie that this is gonna cause future damage to BBA and africa?. The purpose of this whole show which is peace has been defeated. *spits*

I hate this show

Elikem is actually 'childish'

[quote author=ella.b]He actually said SULU IS HIS FAVORITE HOUSEMATE.
I made d statement bold for ppl saying he mentioned sulu winning.[/quote]he also screamed 'sulu is goin to win the moni' before he was interrupted by IK

is it just me or does this O'neal guy actully look lyk Usain Bolt

is it just me or does this O'neal guy looks lyk Usain Bolt

this Elikem boy na mumu o. Dey ffw woman wey dey control am for yanch.

bigfrancis21: I wonder o, my brother. Some people just derive joy in creating Igbo vs not-Igbo threads and the ensuing arguments that follow. And the image they create of such threads on nairaland are usually far from the reality in life.

The white man who presented a full speech in Igbo in year 18xx or so to the Obi of Aboh by collecting extensive igbo words from igbo slaves in sierra leone in preparation for the coming of Christianity to Igboland wouldn't have attempted presenting it at all in Aboh if he felt or sensed that the people weren't Igbo or Igbo-speaking.

When all these Igbo-denying people come out denying Igbo, one begins to wonder what's wrong with being Igbo? The Igbo people that are very much comfortable in their own skin that walk around everyday going their daily duties, have they died since? Have they been stoned to death since?

I sense that state boundaries are really the cause of this confusion. People use state boundaries which are mere artificial constructs to determine who's Igbo or not. Dismantle all the 36 states and a whole different concept will come into mind. Reorder the boundaries and create new states and you'll see the Igbo groups adjusting to what they've been put into. You'll find out that its just a case of mere physical boundaries. Adjust the western and southern boundaries of Anambra state to include parts of Delta Igbo and Ndoni in Rivers state respectively you'll see that suddenly all the Igbo denial from there will stop. It will be unlikely to hear someone from the new Anambra state claiming 'I am from Anambra state but I'm not Igbo'. The newly included people will now feel relaxed and feel a more sense of belonging that they are now with their brothers who they are more closely related to. Extend the southern boundary of Imo state to include Etche, Egbema, Omumma and all the Igbo denial coming from that axis will stop. Extend the south-western boundary of Abia state to include Obigbo and all the anti-igbo segments from there will stop. Case closed. All the identity problem has been solved. Then you'll find out that state boundary all along has been the main cause of denial which is a very little problem to solve. Gowon saw this right from the onset and used it to create disunity within the Igbo group to which our people fell heavily for it.

Meet any igbo-denying person and ask him why he says he's not Igbo and the next thing he'll tell you is, 'I'm not from the south-east', or 'I'm not from the east'. East/south east have now become the determining factor in deciding who is Igbo or not. Which means that if parts of Anambra, Imo and Enugu at the boundaries(of which the people are proud Igbos today) are carved out from their present locations into adjacent bordering states, the people will suddenly stop being Igbo and instead identify with the name of their native clans.

If state boundaries are the yardstick to which Igbo-denying people use to determine who's Igbo or not, fine, give it to them the way they want it. Adjust the boundaries accordingly and solve their identity crisis problem.

@Op...if you discredit using language to determine your Igbo ancestry, now tell me, what is the unifying language factor that makes the Onicha man and the Owerri man, who both speak totally different dialects, Igbo? These two people speak almost mutually unintelligible dialects but today see themselves as one. Please tell me, if not language, what else unifies these two people to classify them as Igbo?

I'm waiting for your reply.

. Mr. Big francis, i hv pondered ova most of these points u hv analysed so many times in d past but they stil do not prove much.
On creation of states creating artificial boundaries and causing identity crisis, my grandma who is stil alive today was born way b4 any state or regional boundary was created in Nigeria and yet doesnt beliv she is Igbo. On d contrary, i beliv creation of regional boundary has made some tribes in d east identify as Igbos as a way of strenghtenin nd unifyin the region. Aboh, wit a very rich culture and proud of her past has refusd to abandon her identity in d name of unificatn, wc in itself is not a bad thing. I must admit tht it wud be politically favourable in d present times to unify wit d Igbos but d price to pay wud b a loss of our ancestral identity, too huge a price to pay.
Sometin u must consider before any conclusion is, how did these pple live before d colonial times?
Concernin language, no need to dwell on this one for too long, culture is not equal to language. The Scots r not Englishmen though they speak English nd r politically united

oturugo: For God's sake, shut up your stinking mouth boy. Arochukwu shares a lot with Ejagham, Ibibio, Annang etc, yet they are not insane to disclaim Igbo.
Stop it now.

thats cos they r Igbos influenced by those oda cultures. On d other hands Abohs were only influenced by Igbos. U r just workin urself up ova pple tht don't see u as their brodas

Abagworo: The modern Igbo identity developed from Aboh. Your language is the same with Imo State people. You'll likely greet "Ajee" like us. Ethnicity is dynamic just like language and I won't be surprised if quest for political convenience and acceptability in the South-south has also infested Aboh. Aboh which started the Igbo thing will today be a distinct minority group of Igbo speakers while others that never used the name are the new Igbos.




http://www.archive.org/stream/narrativeofexped01alle/narrativeofexped01alle_djvu.txt

We don't greet Ajee. I'l study this though

[quote author=Dudu_Negro]Dude, do me a favor. Stop using Yoruba as beacon for what should or shouldn't be applied here.

Address the issue directly by drawing core facts within the context of Igbo cultural institutions instead of using what foreigners in Yorubaland do as a parity for what must obtain here on this issue.

If Aboh bear Igbo names and speak Igbo and are custodians of Igbo masquerade cults, then there is a footprint of shared identity and the depth and broadness of that presence needs to be tracked and accounted for. Dont you think?

Leave Yoruba out of this my brother.[/quote]Thnk you for helping someone reason logically. Mr Dudu negro, as much as we share some cultural traits wit d Igbos we also share so many others wit d izons, binis, isokos nd even Urhobos. But d value system of d Abohs is a sharp contrast from any so called 'Igbo group'

oturugo: Am sorry Negro nts, I so much admire the mentality of the Yorubas here that's why I use it as an example.
Am sure if you are an Igbo like me you will be annoyed with people always coming up with craps every week that this and that is not Igbo. Don't be surprised to see one demented poster here one day claiming that Okigwe is not Igbo.

The funny part is tht you have made no valid point yet u rant abuses at d slightest opportunity. Whts d cause of ur hate?

safarigirl: Brethere, I fear for my brother Melvin in the coming week for the following reasons:

1) This one that Rubies have crowned O'neil king and Diamonds have crowned Melvin king, when both houses merge, the battle for superiority will surely leave a bitter taste in O'neil's mouth and he most likely will have to relinwuish his position as ogat at the top to the true Sherrif

2) Let us not forget that Feza really likes Melvin, and feels more free with him, she didn't even want to return to Rubies last friday due to the fear of o'neil. Once he comes over, she may well abandon O'neil, further increasing his bitterness. Every man's ego revolves around power and women, if O'neil loses his power and his woman to Melvin....

3) This Ugandan chic, though she may stay for a short time, is the most beautiful Emerald girl, and she wants Melvin again. How do you think other guys will feel when all the pretty gals be wanting Melvin: Maria, Dillish, Feza, now Sophie...another obstacle for my innocent bros

But I take consolation in the fact that those in the kick out WA alliance will not be quick to nominate Melvin...Sulu and Feza are a bit too close to him to nominate him, even Annabel likes him more than she cares to admit, so he may not be in immediate danger

Nando and O'neil remain the most bitter, Bimp worships the ground Melvin walks on since Sunday...his biggest problems are Nando and O'neil

Sorry for the Epistle

u get sense.

oturugo: For how long must we continue to see moronic threads as the one here?. Today, it's Abors are not Igbos, yesterday, it was Agbor is not Igbo, May be tomorrow it will be Igbo uzo or Akwukwu Igbo is not Igbo. So many idle brains here this days.
Yet Yorubas are not here to say, Ekiti is not Yoruba, Offa is not Yoruba, Ikorodu is not Yoruba etc.
This brainless thread deserves the waste bin Biko

LMAO. Mr Super intelligent I'm sori to announce to u tht we r not Igbos, we have never been nd will neva be. I doubt it if u hv eva bin to Aboh, but if u hv u'd most likely hv heard d Aboh man say 'kene bu onyi-igbo omari ni Aboh su' meaning: 'this one is an Igbo man, he doesnt knw hw to speak Aboh'. Innately, we don't even imagine ourselves as Igbos in d least sense. You dnt knw so just chill man

Nwa oguta: small boy how old are you? If i may ask which language do you speak? Which names do you bear? Please confirm from the elderly people in ur village b4 you respond to my questions.

I doubt it if u read my post through cos if u did u wud hv found d ansas to ur questns except tht regarding my age. Anyway, to start wit, i am not a small boy. As for my name, i wud rather not disclose tht at this point cos its not necessary. I have my own questns for u, the name of the President of Nigeria is Goodluck Jonathan, does this in anyway make him English or Jewish/Hebrew?

For some time now I hv been reading some amusing and quite interesting threads concerning d issue of Delta Igbos and Identity ish. Most of the points from both sides hv been sound and sensible. I might be wrong, but i hv observed tht majority, if not all igbos beliv all of the pple of Delta North are Igbos. Before I go on, I must add tht we r all entitled to our opinions no matter hw offensive.
Presently, i happen to live in d north and my experience here has made me to know d level of ignorance Nigerians tend to exhibit in d understnding of pple outside their ethnic grp. For example, to d average untravelled southerner, all northerners r Hausas, a complete fallacy that wud make the indigenes of entire states like Benue nd Plateau cringe(Idomas and Tivs don't even speak hausa). The northerner and Yorubas i met during service all believed tht if u r not a northerner nor Yoruba, u automatically r Igbo, a conclusion that is sickening to millions of pple down south.
Personally, i hv learned to live wit such fallacies but i hv not learned to be Igbo yet. Yes, being Igbo is a way of life, a way of life markedly different from my 'peoples way of life'. My people here refer to the people of Aboh, a distinct tribe wit a distinct language that is Igboid. I read somewhr an article wc stated tht language is very dynamicand tht d language of an entire people can change within 100yrs. The change in language doesnt make d people a 'new ethnic grp'. For example, its obvious tht a time, wud come wen some ethnic groups will lose their present languages because of d strong influence of English language, wud tht make them Englishmen? Today we celebrate Christmas and soon we might strt celebrating Halloween nd thanksgivin, wud tht make us Americans?
Are Abohs Igbos? The right person to ask is the Aboh man nd i bet u he'd say no. Are Asabas Igbos? I cnt speak for them cos i'm not Asaba. Yes, we(Abohs) share some similarities wit the ibos such as name, words(i am tempted to use language but it myt be misleading) and......hmmm....very little more, mayb masquerades but that doesnt make us same ethnic grp. We r more like two different pple tht met and shared ideas.
By d way, d term Delta ibo is only used for the sake of ease of description to refer to pple of delta state such as Abohs whose languages r similar to d igbo language.

sholay2011: What of the remaining two oh? You said 5 naa.

got tired of typing. Lol. Anyway, Nando and Bassey r outside contenders. Tht makes 5, k?

One of the ffg 5 is going to wind 300k USD.
1. Dillish. Strongest contender cos no female housemate has managed to command as much respect as she has. Her beauty wud hv bin to her disadv cos of 'usually jealous' female voters but for the fact tht she has not bin arrogant about her looks (unlike Hakeem, who cud hv bin d male version of her in d house but was too conscious of his looks).
2. Melvin. Could hv bin no1 but for dillish. He is Nigerian, a big factor in itself. Also he has avoided controversy and fights in d house. Many voters will percieve him as a naturally decent guy. Ironically, d fact he is Nigerian might work against him in d final voting other countries will be like, ''Nigeria can't b winning all d time''
3. Angelo. From an important country, SA, mature and seem real. But I see Beverly ruining his chances once both houses r merged.

ItsModella: There are Igboid, Yoruboid, Edoid etc languages. Are you saying you've never heard of such classifications?

abeg my bro help me educate him

ozodigboo: Buwahahahahahahhahaha ! ! '' IGBOID '' ? Thats a new one.
My friend, Ndokwaland IS IGBO !
Check your history - full meaning ' Ndi okwa ' in igbo, means people who originated from farm settlements.

ozodigboo: Buwahahahahahahhahaha ! ! '' IGBOID '' ? Thats a new one.
My friend, Ndokwaland IS IGBO !
Check your history - full meaning ' Ndi okwa ' in igbo, means people who originated from farm settlements.

Tufiakwa!!! Wc kain Igbo. If you go to Ndokwa land, u'l hear d natives refer to Igbos who r actin up like ''these Igbo pple ehn''. Dude we don't see ourselves as Igbo. Pls try nd live wit tht

ozodigboo: Buwahahahahahahhahaha ! ! '' IGBOID '' ? Thats a new one.
My friend, Ndokwaland IS IGBO !
Check your history - full meaning ' Ndi okwa ' in igbo, means people who originated from farm settlements.

Tufiakwa!!! Wc kain Igbo. If you go to Ndokwa land, u'l hear d natives refer to Igbos who r actin up like ''these Igbo pple ehn''. Dude we don't see ourselves as Igbo. Pls try nd live wit tht

ozodigboo: Which one is '' delta - ibo '' again ? Hian ! Oo !
Is it a special type of ibo or what ? Thats why i love d pride hausas and yorubas hv in their language.
Its only when we igbos come down, we hear delta-ibo, ikwerre-ibo, onitsha-ibo etc

I don't intend derailing the thread plz.

There is no such thing as 'Delta Ibo'. The term is mainly used for d sake of convenience to describe the people of Delta state whose language is 'Igboid'. If u observe other cultural aspect of these people such as dressing, marraige nd burial rites, way of life and values u will see a sharp contrast from d Igbos. I am fron Ndokwa land, not Igbo

miss sparkle: ..WHATTTTT !!! Look that's it, nando must leave, selly is our sister weda we like it or not...no be ghana dey our back??..we r 1... I h8 nando 4 dis!!

Do u expect d dude to sing Kumbaya?

Ooooops! Nando just told Bimp that Selly gave him STD

geez prince: I feel u mehnn but u can't blame us the Southerners started dis ish with the SADC thingy.how do we xpect integration,unification and fair game when we vote regionally.they just want to get rid of nigerians @ all cost cos they think we ve won on several occasions but dey ve forgotten d fact dat we ve always provided d best housemates.do u know what wl ve happened if Mel was south african,in sure most of us wl ve declared him the winner of the chase before time.they re hating on mel not because he's slow or emotional as suggested but because he is nigerian.(but God pass dem)the chase is on and Melvin is the chase make we see as dem won do their ojoro dis time cos it wl backfire.imagine having oneal,sulu,Angelo,cleo,mel,elikem nd feza or nando in last eight,the SADC votes wl be divided And if d poor boy(mel) wins dey wl start screaming foul.show me a true winner or champ in BBA and I wl stop supporting mel.but when u hate on a brother because of his nationality....dats just lame.team mel #justsaying#

Sentiments aside, do u rily tink Melvin deserves to win? Dnt get me wrong, d guy is a grt lad but sometin tells me he is too conscious of d camera. He doesn't express himself lyk he is bein real, same goes for our fellow WAn, Selly. To be honest, i beliv d coolest nd most free spirited pple in tht house left 2 sundays ago, Maria nd Bolt, esp Maria. That girl has a pure heart and if not for regionalism nd childish fantasies for gogo eyed dillish, Africa wud hv noticed

dmalam: WHEN U R DONE PROOFIN UR POINT PLS DISAPPEAR...

Hmmmmm. How old r u, 2?

I don't undastnd y evrytin in Africa turns regional/tribal..........and wen a whiteman calls Balotelli a monkey we strt shouting foul, meanyly we turn BBA to BBregionalism

Ondo state? I've been to Akura nd it looks notin close to a state capital

@icon. sensitivity is a very common problem esp as one ages. It could be caused by a number of factors that results in exposure of dentine. Mild cases are managed with commercially available desensitizing pastes. The commonest in the market is sensodyne toothpaste. But i'd advise u to see a dentist

The 2011 polls hv come and gone after all the promises, postponements and violence. Reflecting back at the elections I believe it is the free-est elections we hv had in this country since 1999 but is it the fairest? is it acceptable? I think that a free election is that in which the electorates are allowed to vote for any candidate of their choice. If I am right then many would agree with me that this was the case in most areas during the elections. That said, the question is did their votes count? In some parts of the country it would seem that it did to a large extent. For instance, in the south-western states where elections were held you get a feeling that the will of the people prevailed going by the acceptance of the election result by both opposition of eventual winners and the general population in this region. This was not the case in every parts of the country. In the South South state of Delta for example declaration of the incumbent governor Dr. uduaghan, as the winner of the guber poll was followed by cold tension in the state which fortunately did not turn violent. People asked questions, opposition parties rejected the result amid reports of election rigging in certain LGs apparently aided by the police, INEC officials and the state chairman of CAN, a certain Bishop Avwomakpa. Although these are unproven, comparing it with the situation in states such as Oyo you would agree that INEC has some questions to answer. I was in Edo state in 2008 when the tribunal verdict to install Com. Adams Oshiomole as governor was made, I saw an electrifying atmosphere. Jubilant crowd throng the streets to celebrate what they saw as their victory, a sign of the peoples acceptance. A sign of fairness- fair election. If this can be replicated nation-wide then we would say we are finally there. The international community cannot be our mouthpiece to say an election is fair. We must be our own judge and get it right. I an tempted to criticize Prof. Jega's INEC but will wait until the tribunals conclude its job. INEC's voters register if credible will bring justice at the end of it all. Cases of multiple thumb printing will be revealed easily by forensics investigation. For now its a wait and see game.

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