₦airaland Forum

eighTHREAD: obey and trust the right decisions of her husband. Duty goes with gender roles and also supporting the family. Her rights are to be loved by her husband, not to be cheated and abused etc. As for liberty, I don't think she needs any as the word liberty can be misunderstood unless you want to give me an instance. I think she should conform to the kind of liberty marriage brings and that which it restricts.

Godmystrength: The wife uses the laptop too now

gillz: Tnx bennyrazz, I said for d washing machine to last dey shld avoid washing jeans wit it and wen d machine started having fault I discovered dey were washing jeans wit it wen I asked her she said she can't stop dem since I'm not d producer. They wil use my laptop to watch movie(her n d sisters) frm morning to night witout evening seeking my permission wen I called. Her. Privately n tried to stop dem she said its nt possible for her to tell her sisters nt to use d laptop.so many odas

gillz: Do I hav to dialogue with my wife on what food I hav to eat and hw I want it prepared, do I hav to dialogue wit how on when and hw her sisters shld put my 2 yre boy to sleep? Or do I hav to dialogue wit her on cleanliness and orderliness in d house?

eighTHREAD: you keep saying young OP...young OP...even after I clearified myself on a post which you prefer rather to ignore cos it stinks of truth. Well, madam old mama youngie, I wonder why an old woman would have as her profile picture, a man with muscles and six-packs, showing she still has childish fantasies. Perhaps you are still young but claiming matured. Well, keep it up...keep losting after a man that has nothing else to with his time but how to build six-packs just to make himself sexually appealing to ladies. When he ends up getting snatched from the marriage with, don't come here crying fowl. For one last time, am not young...might even be older than you. Are you married?

pickabeau1: im not enjoying anything.. you also are incorrigible which mind you is a proper word.
I wonder why you put it in quotes again...

TV01: CC (ah, we now have two CC', Imma stick with Lottie ),

You said this;

And I asked that you substantiate this from the bible, using the "whole of scripture" - or as much as you know. Are you saying/teaching that the bible does not prescribe corporal punishment?

there. Is corporal punishment restricted to flogging alone? Now you're assuming I think the bible is anti-punishment


You have not answered directly. But posted the following, which I shall answer noting the fact you simply avoided the question.

I didn't avoid it. I answered you based on my understanding which is what you wanted right?
Since flogging was for slaves and criminals during bible times,I'm safe to understand that the rod is t a literal one.

It's not mindless violence, its tempered corporal punishment, palms, buttocks etc. Not whipping an animal. Lottie, the use of emotive language does not a decent convo make. And the pain is warranted, to make a point and for the long-term good of the child.

so who regulates it? I've seen parents leave scars on their kids during 'corporal' punishment. It should be tempered true. But who's watching to know ensure that it doesn't get out of hand. They'll tell you 'it's my kid I can't kill it' but meanwhile they are causing serious damage.


Further, it's one of a range of possible sanctions, not necessarily used in every instance and yes, some kids may not need it ever. Is there an "ideal" form of punishment? If there was, surely it would mean that the child never offended again

well...I don't think there's an ideal one too. But if anyone to excludes some form of violence is ok by me.

This is certainly not biblical, in fact it's contra-biblical.

Hebrews 12: 5 - 6 And have you completely forgotten this word of encouragement that addresses you as a father addresses his son? It says, “My son, do not make light of the Lord’s discipline, and do not lose heart when he rebukes you, because the Lord disciplines the one he loves, and he chastens everyone he accepts as his son.”

I never insinuated that the bible is anti-punishment.


Your notion of non-judgemental, non-pain-inflicting love is not biblical. We all love our children and no one wants or plans to have to punish them. But we do it for their long-term good - even if they don't fully appreciate that.

physical pain? No. I don't subscribe..I don't doubt the love of parents who whip their kids. Everyone loves their kids(genrally speaking)


I knew from way back that the "rod" would be an option in my home. My wife was strongly against it - Oga prevailed . Our son is high-energy and much more than a handful.

well...

I use the rod sparingly, and most times only as a deterrent. His mum prefers, the go to your room, naughty step, time out strategies. But now even she has recourse to the rod - even if only as a deterrent .

I've wonderful ideas of what I could use as punishment. Let the kids come first
I know the rod didn't deter me. I don't trust that method.
Glad you know to use it sparingly.


I hold you in too high regard to believe you are'nt fully aware of what you are doing here .

and what might that be?

TV

aisha2: I am happy for her because she dymysitifes the spheres of his power, if she could be bold and strong enough to walk away and stand firm to such a controling man then any woman going through same can do it.

TV01: Holá

Please expantiate here. What is your understanding of what the Bible says regards corporal punishment?


TV

pickabeau1: No madam.. you pointed out the flaws using an extreme example of abuse
Anyway for someone who believes in one touch or none(any spanking is abuse).. then the extreme is normal to you

As i said, spanking still happens in your beloved western world and i dont see u accuse them of being abusive

pickabeau1: I am not being defensive. I just responded to your post on one system being better than another

Which thread have you been referring to all this while.. I am not aware

zboyd: Q. 1 - Yes.

Q. 2 - We both did.

Q. 3 - Over here, your child has to attend only those schools in his or her district - popular or poor. It's a tax thing. Your only alternative are private schools, Catholic schools, charter schools or do home schooling. You can risk using a friend's or relative's address ho lives in a region with better schools, but if you get caught, you will have to transfer your child to his or her home school.

pickabeau1: I am not a wizard so i will only read what you have posted

I said each system has it merits. I posted it there.


I agree that each system has its merits.. its not bias as you did not jighlight any positive of the naija system whichis not the original post

and I believe you were presnt in the other thread where it was trashed out. Hence I said no need to go over them again

I was not abused, other posters have said they were not abused.. where you abused?

I was whipped on the palm of my hands. By dad and school teachers. It's not proper because now that I look back,it didn't stop me from being stubborn.I know we don't call it abuse here but thatw what it is.

Do you want me to bring up posts of people abused in the US or UK and use that as th benchmark for these countries

and you're assuming that I think their system is flawless?

Why focus on extremes when the norm is way better
There are some issues with our system and improvement is needed but calling our system crap is unwholesome

for someone who said there are merits to our own system,I don't believe this line is for me. If you see anyone saying everything about our systems is crap,tell that to them

I dont believe in strictness and harshness
You may need to explore further and read up about white sothern christians in the US who also use capital punishment
Guess they are nigerian too..

assuming again that I think their system is the best.

I will have given u some links but i am not sure you will read them

pickabeau1: What is your index of 'betterness'

Are you talking of intellect, agreeability, IQ, parental involvement

Are you saying Nigerian kids dont think for themselves or some?

Have you interacted personally with foreigners and know first hand about this touted thinking capacity.. a lot of them ive met dont know much about what is really going on about their government...

Are you agreeing that you are lesser than another woman in another country because you happen to be Nigerian?

pickabeau1: I saw no limits within the first definition,.. the second one has...
I even requoted it and you are still debating...

pickabeau1: So who are the best in the world

pickabeau1: You have qualifed your own definition subject to some principles
The first definition has no such

Thats the problem with English

Same word has different contexts

Chillisauce: Fine girls don't fart, when we do, we make sure we flush down the toilet

pickabeau1: I read your post and you defined liberty as you saw fit. you asked what is wrong with liberty

All i did post was the official meaning and i asked you who determines the limits. I have seen your later post where you qualified liberty

eighTHREAD: thank you. Zboyd, this post is meant for you cos your mission to destroy the african family structure will fail. No wonder people of the middle east don't western culture. No anti-feminist thread on FP. Seun, have they bought you?

aisha2: Same Bible tells Nigerian parents NO TO UPSET their children to anger but just like "love your wife" is downplayed with "wives submit" so is "dont provoke your children to anger" downplayed with "children obey your parents"
The Bible is balanced let us not make it into some control manual

pickabeau1: Cococandy.... Always beneficial to define words

Liberty has no limits..however there is an alternate definition which comes with limits..
Now I ask you who determines these limits...

Society? Personal? Gender roles ?..


http://i.word.com/idictionary/liberty

Liberty

bluivy:

There is a school of thought that say God created a haemephrodite, first not a male as popular believes. See verse 27 above.

Daresh: Sorry I had to delete my post. Just saw youre picture and realised "na small pickin dey worry you"

5minsmadness: Liberty brings chaos.
Liberty, like democracy, is a deceptive word. Liberty tells you that you are free to make your own choices, that weare all equal, that there is no leader, no captain no head.
There is no law and order.
This is a recipe for disaster.
God almighty is not Democratic.
He makes laws and if you disobey them you will be punished, just as if you obey them you will be rewarded.
The kind of 'liberty' feminism is trying to bring will only lead to the destruction of the family unit. This has already begun in the Western civilizations.
The children are the worst hit. And you know a poorly brought up child will be a badly behaved and irresponsible adult.

The liberty you seek is a false Paradise that will lead ultimately to destruction.

Tallesty1: I said I don't need a marriage where husband is the head and wife is the neck. The head cannot connect and control other parts of the body without the neck and neck on the other hand is worthless without the head. It is not about being equal, it is about understand your responsibilty. If you do what you are supposed to do and I do mine then why should we argue and tussle for power??

Godmystrength: certification wise, i am seriously working on that.

thinking about the BC.

My folks are aware (or how do i explain to them the reason i am always borrowing from them)they just know and encourage me. My mum has called us both at one time to advise us on how to be prudent and plan well. She was even suggesting that instead of paying that much for rent, we should be thinking of starting to plan for building our own house even if it is just a small place. The way he lambasted me thay day when we got back home, i will never forget in my life.

His folks are aware. To them nothing wrong with what is happening. it is a normal thing. As i am encouraging him to get a job doing, they are discouraging him that business is his calling.

I had to pay the rent because the old rent has been long due and rent has been increase by a 100k and we had to move out asap. NEPA bills was already piling up plus the unpaid rent. And we heard from reliable source that building will soon be sold. We weren't the one given the quit notice, it was given to other tenants. If we were evicted, where will i go to with my baby?