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tctrills:
Jehovah's witnesses do not believe in blood transfusion but they accept unfractionated plasma which is the largest component of blood. How do you reconcile the two? Like all humans, they also have to stay alive even if they have to twist their laws

tctrills:
In your words, God is okay with that since most of the blood has been drained. Its a bit funny to me. You seem to be saying that it's no longer about taking in blood but the amount you take in. So if I may ask, what is the specified amount of blood that we can consume?
Let's get serious here, the only thing God spoke about is eating blood. Neither of us has a right to add. When we add, it gets confusing and we end up making a fool of ourselves with our facts got wrong.
Before I educated you about the quantity of blood in meat, I am sure you had no idea. The laws of God are firm, clear, and direct. The cant be proved wrong by facts.

Dtruthspeaker:
I intend to avoid all sins.

oteneaaron:
Lol.

What do you think?

Workch:
let me rephrase this then probably you can get how ridiculous your statement sound.

"Flying spaghetti monster is spirit, no matter what you do you can't get the evidence. Leave evidence of Flying spaghetti monster for people wey believe in Flying spaghetti monster.
How would you get evidence for something you don't believe exists at all? Definitely your looking for nothing.
If any scientist can perform a BigBang experiment in a laboratory and produce a living creature, I'll believe you."

Rosement:
jw have their own personal bible and there doctrine is different from Christian doctrine. Their description of Christ is even different, so it is possible their own Christ is different from ours.

Dtruthspeaker:
As long as the record here has shown that you people have been given reasonable opportunity to explain and defend your belief but you failed.

tctrills:
Research shows that Approximately 60% of blood is lost at sticking (bleeding), 20-25% remains in the viscera (in spleen, liver, kidneys, etc.), while a maximum of 10% may remain in carcass muscles (the 'meat')

Rosement:
Are you always absent-minded in Church? You have been attending Church since all these years and you still don't know the definition of Christianity. If I explain Christianity to you in a day, how will you understand? I don't want to fetch water into a basket so I will not even try to impart knowledge into you.

Workch:
yes, is a theory which by definition in science is a fact.
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And let me help you, there's still no evidence for your God

tctrills:
No, it's not a new guideline but a fact. You cant eat meat without taking in blood. You don't believe that? It's not my opinion its a fact you cant eat meat without taking in blood. The arteries, veins, and capillaries still have blood in them

tctrills:
You clearly are not getting my point. I have nothing against eating meat. I am only telling you that if blood transfusion is wrong, so is eating meat because both would get blood into your body. For me, I am ok with eating meat and blood transfusion. Do you understand me now?
Also, you should abstain from touching blood and the list goes on and on.
God never talked bout masturbation or abortion or internet fraud, does it mean they aren't sin?
God spoke about murder, stealing, and lust.

Workch:
There's no evidence that God exist in the first place and your Christian laws are your worldview and doesn't in any way means its correct

tctrills:
My point is simple, God was never talking about blood transfusion or getting blood into your body. He was clearly talking about having a meal out of blood. So we all can stick to that rather than adding new laws and guidelines.

Rosement:
Even if you have not done jw baptism that doesn't mean you are still a Christian, Christianity is claimed by Faith not by going to Church. You are already a member of jw by belief, the only thing missing now is your jw baptism. You are free to preach your belief but you have no right to criticize or debate other people's religion. Christianity and jw are different.

oteneaaron:
Lol.

What do you think?

MaxInDHouse:
He is battle prepared to stay awake throughout the night as long as you're dropping the water from the tip of your finger.
Father Abraham (Jehovah God) told the rich man that Lazarus can't cool his thirst because of the chasm between them {Luke 16:24-26} so don't think his restlessness is curable.
Just continue thanking Jehovah that the seed of truth has grown beyond what Satan's agents can extinguish in you! Matthew 13:4

tctrills:
What about touching it or seeing it or talking about it? Are these also against your law? God's law was about eating blood. I don't think we have the power to add to it no matter the church we represent.
Just in case you did not know, you can't eat meat without eating blood. It is just imposible.

Dtruthspeaker:
That is not an answer, tattoos had not yet been invented yet it was covered.

Therefore, you can not prove that blood transfusion is eating and drinking.



If our thoughts did not matter then you would have left your beliefs in the protection of your mind and not brought it here.

But now that you see that you can not reasonably substantiate your belief, you are now attempting to defend yourself by playing the personal card.

You can not do so for you, by yourself, exposed your indefensible belief and now that you can not defend it, you are simply retreating in failure.

So saying our thoughts do not matter, is not a defence but clearly a proof of running away and your inability to defend your belief.



In other words you now confess rather than defend your that you have the power to commit self murder! Which is very True!

Like I said, The Holy Judge will judge these things.

achorladey:
Had you know the policies I am talking about you would have answered that common denominator question long before this time.

Looking at the write up used to create this thread, I knew it is just copy and paste from the numerous books and publications of that religious organization.

Since you are not aware of the policies they use, the HLC e.t.c . Go and do your research.

God asked you to abstain from POTATOES but you decide to extract the STARCH to cook starch soup and banga. Are you really abstaining from POTATOES telling God I only need the starch.

What will your explanation be when God asked you why are using starch obtained from those they you call DEVIANTS

oteneaaron:
Hahahaha

He was caught on camera on the 31st of March 2019 at around 11am.

The funny thing is that the store where he bought this hoard of alcohol from was 45 miles away from the JW headquarters.

He didn't want anyone in the bethel family to catch him buying alcohol.

MaxInDHouse:
She saw the light and she acknowledged it but she finds it too bright for her liken! Matthew 13:7,22 compare to 13:24

achorladey:
Mature food belongs to those who have trained their minds to distinguish distinguish good from evil.

Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of people in their deceitful scheming.

Kids don't have mature minds to know the length and breadth of the issue under discussion here. No be seresere matter Oga.



You better do so when you start reading the policy ask what fraction of fornication is a personal choice and based on conscience that the Bible gives allowance for. Where in the Bible is allowance given for blood component transfusion.



No be you go be the first person to talk am not the last. Many don reach that level before you. What you call truth and false doctrines cut across religious denominations. Put that in your notes.

achorladey:
What is the penalty for you choosing to accept blood transfusion as based on the religious policy of the organization you belong? Which scriptures in the Bible support it? What is the essence of the policy since blood transfusion is a conscience and personal matter? I only want to know the degree of force in play here. Why did such policies state willful acceptance without remorse is as good as the person had disassociated himself?




Where in the scripture did you see it stated it is sin against God? You can only draw conclusions from other laws just like you are doing for blood transfusion. Since it is not EXPLICIT don't go about saying it is God's laws or sin against God. The reason you need to runaway from LEGALISM.

One part of your mouth says it is God's law and it is a sin, the other part of your mouth is saying it is not God's law and sin. Where you stand paapaa?



That is why we have EISEGESIS and EXEGESIS of the scripture. You cannot be interpreting your thought into the scripture. When the account of Acts were written, do they have the sense of blood transfusion? When you wake up those who wrote that account and ask them, do they mean things related to blood transfusion? What will be their response?

One part of your mouth says it is God's law, the other part of your mouth is saying it is not God's law. Where you stand paapaa?





The policies regarding blood say you don't abstain completely from blood. The reason you see allowance for component abi na fractions e.t.c. That it is a personal choice does not remove that fact the organization don't abstain from it.



Consult your religious leaders and elders abi na HLC should you need more information. The reason I asked a question earlier you didn't respond.




The law on blood given has nothing to do with blood transfusion.




LEGALISM. You seem not to understand what it means.

tctrills:
Blood transfusion was not practiced in Bible times. If God isn't pleased with it, he would reveal it to us. The bible said, "Abstain from blood." It could mean. Abstain from shedding blood. Or abstain from eating blood. Or Abstain from touching blood. Or Abstain from seeing Blood. So when a religion decides to interpret it as abstaining from blood transfusion, they are clearly on their own. It's their opinion and they are entitled to it. It's not God's commandment.

MaxInDHouse:
The young lady that started this actually did to call my attention because she fell in love with a man old enough to be her dad and began calling me "Sugar Daddy" all because of her love for reasonableness.
Well the trinitarians called her names for this but she stood her ground that TRINITY makes no sense to her!

achorladey:
Good for you. It is your express will.



You are not even sure of what the policies really are.

What is the common denominator here

Blood Transfusions

Blood fractions transfusions

Blood components transfusion

Personal blood transfusion during live operation




These other ones that you stated used the name JEHOVAH are they Jehovah’s witnesses or DEVIANTS?

The person who coined the name JEHOVAH, na Jehovah’s witnesses or DEVIANT?



That KJV contributed to what you have come to accept as Bible anyway. KJV does not need to add JEHOVAH to the Bible to be the best translation paapaa.

Dtruthspeaker:
That is why I have clearly and directly asked you, is eating and drinking meat with blood and drinking blood sacrifices or sacrifices of blood can be construed as transfusion?

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Note the verse says ...eating and drinking blood of any living creatures in any form. If blood transfusion had been invented, God would have included it.

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We think it evil because a Life which could have been saved died unreasonably, exactly as a person killed by a driver who was drinking alcohol and driving.

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My bro your thoughts do not matter. What matters is fully obeying Jehovah God.

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It is an Unreasonable and an Avoidable death.

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If it's pleasing to Jehovah and he's the power to raise us up from the dead, we are willing to die pleasing him.

Paul and others risked their life standing for the truth.

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oteneaaron:
Very interesting points.

Hope you don't mind me asking..

Is this why Governing Body member, Anthony Morris was caught on camera buying over 6 bottles of liquor on a Sunday morning when he should have been at the Kingdom Hall??

I know MaxInDHouse will come for my head now

I saw this on YouTube - -


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HR4oBqrQ1UY

MaxInDHouse:
Thanks to JEHOVAH we are enduring the final part of the days!
Do you know i was really touched the year 2020 when a seemingly unserious student of mine said:
"you taught me that JWs issued the order to start preaching from house to house since 1919 after the release of J.F. Rutherford and his team?"
I responded "Yes"
Then he asked again:
"and ever since then you people have been doing this your preaching till now?"
I responded again "Yes"
He said:
"and it's exactly the year 2019 that another order from the same Governing Body came that you should stop visiting people in their homes"
I responded again "Yes"

His next question is:
"Please tell me, is God's Kingdom about to start so that i can quickly join you people?
How come it's precisely a hundred years that the same Governing Body asked you to stop visiting people?"
I said "because of Covid19 nah!"
He said:
"you know i always attend to you anytime you come, please i'm feeling somehow with the whole thing as you people started preaching in 1919 and stopped in 2019 due to COVID-19!"

This is a person who often dodge stylishly when we go for his Bible study o!

Kobojunkie:
1. Yes! When you become born-again, Jesus Christ told you in John 3 vs 1 - 8 that you enter into the Kingdom of God. And when He returns in His Kingdom, He will judge every one in His flock aka those in the Kingdom of God - Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46

And as Jesus Christ also pointed , His Kingdom is not of this world.

MaxInDHouse:
That's what happens when an account on this forum is deleted, it will read "nobody" but if you want to know the former name just check others who have quoted that moniker before it was deleted you will get the original name.
I'm male and my former moniker was "Maximus69" i deleted that account and the email due to many people mailing me for financial assistance.
Now i only give my new gmail to trusted ones e.g JWs!