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Emusan:
Then you're not a good reader because it's in your fraudulent NWT that there will be New heavens and new Earth. 2 Peter 3
Well I know the next thing is to say it's symbolic

If you were a good reader and with a good brain, you would have comprehended what my post was about

MrBrownJay1:
see mumu.... who told you that your yeye god created the universe?! so because some charlatans wrote about this, it is true?!?!? who was there to confirm it and record it?! what you wrote is a stupid as me saying:" its HARRY POTTER who created the universe because J K Rawlings said so!!!" you want me to present a reasonable theory while you bring ARRANT GIBBERISH NONSENSE as a theory.
here is a better theory for you...I AM GOD AND I AM TELLING YOU THAT YOU ARE WRITING RUBBISH ABOUT ME!!!!

So as a God what will be your end?

tctrills:
Psalm 82:6
I have said, "You are gods; you are all children of The Highest.
I quoted from the old testament to show that even before the coming of Christ, men were Sons of God, and men were called Gods.
And don't claim to fight for the truth if you are ready to use falsehood against other organizations.

John 10:34-36 NLT
[34]Jesus replied, “It is written in your own Scriptures that God said to certain leaders of the people, ‘I say, you are gods!’
[35]And you know that the Scriptures cannot be altered. So if those people who received God’s message were called ‘gods,’
[36]why do you call it blasphemy when I say, ‘I am the Son of God’? After all, the Father set me apart and sent me into the world.

Lol shebi I de use falsehood abi

Your among those people called gods right?

Where in the chapter 82 of Psalm indicates that God called every human gods?

Psalms 82:6-7
[6]I say, ‘You are gods;
    you are all children of the Most High.
[7]But you will die like mere mortals
    and fall like every other ruler.’”

The people God was calling gods are probably the rulers in Israel.

I know you would bring that verse. I don already pass am. E no hard like that na.

Will you like to study with the JWs

MrBrownJay1:
what a very stupid question!!!! its called EVOLUTION.... now ask yourself this same question....IF GOD CREATED MEN, WHO CREATED GOD?!?!
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If God created the universe, that means he exist.
Does he have to be created before he exist?

Without the true God who is the source of all life, you wouldn't even be here displaying your foolishness.

If you don't believe in creation, at least present a reasonable theory with evidence not big bang.

Dé quote well na.

tctrills:
Read my post again. And tell me the lie I spread.
If I was wrong, I'll apologize cos I never intended to spread lies about them. I have discussed with a lot of LDS members.

Did I say they were gods before their earthly life?
I think your the one lying here. Pls try to read and comprehend well before responding. You are not the only one with LDS friends and you can also read to understand their position before typing. The LDs Believe that man has the potential to be like God not that man is or was already a God. https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/the-eternal-family-teacher-manual/lesson-3-our-divine-potential?lang=eng

Please stop fighting other organizations. Just make your point and leave others from this. That's my advice to you, sir.

Don't you believe in universal salvation? I don't. Please explain what you mean by this.
Don't you believe that you'll later become gods after death? I believe the bible already says we are Gods so I believe this
Don't you believe in preexistence? I do. and all my beliefs are scriptural.
So why are you interested in my beliefs.

I'm not fighting for nothing but the truth.

Tell me where the Bible says we are gods, can you?

Emusan:
Rather! Your organization has rewritten this same verse
Is this deliberate lie or you don't read your fraudulent NWT?
The same God says A NEW HEAVEN AND EARTH will come.

Yeah I got it from the fraudulent NWT.

False religion is actually pushing people to their destruction.

God never created hell fire nor said he will burn people in it.

If Buhari started burning people alive as punishment for their crimes, how would we feel about him?

[quote author=MrBrownJay1 post=112681143][/quote]There's nothing wrong in enjoying you life now.
The ultimate enjoyment will be in the new world where everything will be perfect.

If man created God, who created man?

[quote author=tctrills post=112689496][/quote]Read my post again. And tell me the lie I spread.
If I was wrong, I'll apologize cos I never intended to spread lies about them. I have discussed with a lot of LDS members.

Did I say they were gods before their earthly life?
I think your the one lying here. Pls try to read and comprehend well before responding.

Mormons don't believe we were Gods before our earthy lives.

Don't you believe in universal salvation?
Don't you believe that you'll later become gods after death?
Don't you believe in preexistence?

tctrills:
Yes, he would restore the earth. it's clearly written in the bible.
Revelations 21
And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
When you are correct, I will be the first to congratulate you.

Lol. But your church teaches you that you will become gods in heaven. Wicked people won't perish but will be in prison for some times before they are transferred to heaven. Another type of heaven different from yours, the saved. Universal salvation.

You people believe that we preexisted as spirit which is very incoherent. Like was Adam our first parent pre-existing somewhere before God made him from clay?

You might denied that your not a Mormon, member of LDS but I know you're.

Ken4Christ:
The scripture already told you they will be cast into the Lake of fire. You responsibility is to believe.
Hell is a spiritual domain where lost souls go to. It is well organized just like our correctional centres. It's like a cell holding lost souls awaiting final judgment. So, when the time comes for the final judgment, all inmates will be released for final judgment. And after judgment, they will be thrown into a worse place known as the Lake of fire. Put in another term, it is rivers of liquid fire. It is far worse than hell.
Now hell, which kept these inmates has fulfilled its purpose and it is now empty. It will also be thrown into the Lake of fire.
Death is another spiritual domain that holds some people who died but have not yet entered hell. The people in that domain will also be released for final judgment. Death will also be thrown into the Lake of fire.
The Lake of fire is real. Don't plan to go there. Receive Jesus now into your life and save yourself from that terrible place.

How would a spiritual unliving entity like death and hell born in fire? Ona no dé reason?
Can spirit born in fire? For example Satan a spirit being, can a literal fire born him?

Is lake of fire spiritual fire or literal physical fire?
If you say lake of fire is also spiritual, why were people resurrected first with their flesh (body) before casting them into the lake? Why didn't their spiritual soul go there directly?

Peter quoted Psalm 16:10 to explain that even Jesus soul was dead in hell, is hell a prison or just a abstract place for human beings that are dead?

Lake of fire simple symbolises eternal destruction.

MrBrownJay1:
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Enjoy your life and die forever!

tctrills:
It's the same thing today, what about those who don't believe. There would always be some who believe and some who don't. Do you know how many years it took Christianity to become mainstream? Is it everyone you talk to that ends up believing? Why do you think the Jews would be any better?

Hey, Isaiah didn't believe in Jesus Christ. He only believed the prophecy that someone is coming to be the Christ. He never knew Jesus.
Thanks.

"In the beginning, God created the heaven and the earth. At the end he will destroy everything because Satan interrupted his plans."

False religion has really done a lot of harm to misinformed churchgoers reasoning.


God will restore the earth through his son Amen!

MaxInDHouse:
They don't know the meaning of that name "JEHOVAH" that's why we must teach them.
If He purposed that mankind will live forever on this planet but end up destroying the same, who is the winner, the true God or Satan? Isaiah 55:8-11

They'll be the one saying JWs are brainwashed, whereas they are the ones that are brainwashed with Catholics pagan dogmas.

If the earth was going to be destroyed, that would make Satan the winner.

"In the beginning, God created the heaven and the earth. At the end he will destroy everything because Satan interrupted his plans."

False religion has really done a lot of harm.



God will restore the earth!

tctrills:
But you should know they were evil nah. i don't need to teach you that.
Read this to understand why they did not believe him.
3 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
They were evil and had chosen to follow the devil unlike Simon and the wise men and John the baptist and the many others that choose to believe him.
The only reason why the Pharisees did not believe Christ was because of their wickedness.

What about the rest of the Jews that didn't believe when he actually came?
What bout the present Jews that are still expecting the Christ today? Are they saved and recieving the forgiveness of sin through his blood?

Image123:
Duh, i meant your OP, i don't expect you to prove facts wrong.

The fact is "lake of fire" symbolises destruction.

Image123:
So why do you ask the question? i don't expect you to prove facts wrong.

100% of Jwickedness have a programmed preconceived notion and copy/paste response without thinking. They are so poorly indoctrinated. Prove this sad truth wrong.

Is that not what you asked me to prove?

I don't have time for your bs.

Ona no know anything for Bible, but ona go dè run mouth everywhere.

Lake of fire doesn't exist anywhere. It's used in a figurative sense.

Image123:
Stick to what i said. i didn't say anything about being tormented, or about crying, or about day and night. i didn't say anything about any false prophet or about born or burn. Read carefully this time and ask sensible questions.
100% of Jwickedness have a programmed preconceived notion and copy/paste response without thinking. They are so poorly indoctrinated. Prove this sad truth wrong.

Lol. I have nothing to proof to you.
Lake of fire symbolises eternal destruction. And it's meant for Satan, the false prophet (figurative), wicked people, hell and death.
They won't exist no more.

I'm still within context. Or aren't familiar with Revelations 20?

tctrills:
Not a meaningful question. How many people are led to God since Christ came? Do you have the records of how many people are led to God since this year? Please what point are you making here

Weren't the Pharisees, Sadducees and the Jews also waiting for the Christ? Did their waiting or the prophecies they knew about him have any effect without believing in Christ Jesus?

tctrills:
They were led to Jesus by the prophecy, Just like you are led to Him by the new testament no difference

So how many people were led to Christ aside Isaiah and David

[quote author=tctrills post=112657307][/quote]Not the sin of the world. Only the sins of those that believe in him.

tctrills:
Read Hebrew 11.13 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.
These men did not have Christ in their time but they saw the promises of Christ from afar and were persuaded of them, and embraced them.

They didn't receive the promise. That's enough explanation.

tctrills:
Don't you see how controversial you are becoming? You keep saying that God gave them the prophecy of Christ and at the same time they did not know Christ.
The two can't be true. If God revealed Christ to them via prophecy then clearly they knew Christ. The prophecy were not in vain. The purpose of the prophecy is to reveal Christ.
And you are yet to answer my question, what do you know about Christ that they did not know

What's a prophecy?
Why was the prophecy about the Messiah given?

Image123:
And what question has Jwickedness people ever answered successfully instead of perambulating aimlessly trying to tell everyone they are chosen or best denomination or trying to sell asleep magazine?
The lake of fire is the eternal abode and place of punishment for satan, his angels, the antichrist, death and of course sinners. The Bible says death and hell are cast, you are still glibly asking if hell and death could be cast.

Like hell and death will be tormented and cry day and night shebi?

Satan a spirit being will also born in a literal fire

What about the false prophet, shebi na person him be?

You people and your half knowledge.

tctrills:
Please, I was not trying to blow you off. I was only letting you know that you were not understanding our topic. In the topic, we were discussing who Christ was to the people in the old testament. It was not about the trinity. We wanted to know if they of old knew about Christ. And what he meant to them according to the scriptures.

They certainly don't know of him. They heard that some Messiah is coming and they don't even know who the Messiah is going to be.

tctrills:
The wise men located Christ because of the words of the Prophets.
Now after Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judea in the days of Herod the king, behold, [a]wise men from the East came to Jerusalem, 2 saying, “Where is He who has been born King of the Jews? For we have seen His star in the East and have come to worship Him.”
3 When Herod the king heard this, he was troubled, and all Jerusalem with him. 4 And when he had gathered all the chief priests and scribes of the people together, he inquired of them where the Christ was to be born.
5 So they said to him, “In Bethlehem of Judea, for thus it is written by the prophet:

The wise men saw his Star when he was born and they traced it. They might have heard of the prophecy but it doesn't prove anything here.

tctrills:
If you are not yet convinced then you need to read this.
Acts 10:43
You see, they believed the very same thing that you believe.
Note the verse says the Prophets testified about him. Do you know what a testimony is? You cant bear testimony of what you don't know unless you are a false witness.

"

All the prophets testify about him that everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name...".

All the prophets testified through prophecy. They were expecting the Messiah but Christ didn't come during their time. They don't know God was going to send. They believed Jehovah that he would send the Christ.

The person eventually came, Jesus Christ.

People started recieving forgiveness of sin after his sacrificial death.

The prophets killed animal for their forgiveness of sin.

tctrills:
The men of old looked forward to the coming of Christ to save the world. That is called faith in Jesus Christ. John 3.16, whosoever believed in him shall have everlasting life. Did they not believe in him?
The big question for you is what more would you want them to do or say to show that they believed Jesus Christ and knew he was the son of God? Because they ticked all the boxes.
4. And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.
Christ was the Spiritual Rock of Isreal, they drank out from him. There expirience with Christ was much deeper than yours.

Even when he finally showed up. Few of the Jews believed in him. Like the Pharisees, they believed in the prophecy about him.
When he finally came and their expectations were different from what they saw, they didn't eventually believe him or they denied him.

They didn't drink from Christ bobo. They drank from rock. Christ was compared to the rock. You can believe whatever you want to believe about that.

People began to know Christ when he was on earth.