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Khaleepha5681:
It is the religion of hypocrites,full of back and forth.

The Novel,called holly book of theirs goes against itself.

You an athiest?

AntiChristian:
Do you worship Allah? Is Allah Jehovah?
Does an average Hausa believe Allah has a son?
Is Jesus's wine grape juice as portrayed in the Hausa Bible?

We talking about Allah/God here not what an average Hausa believe or grape juice.

I think we need to read some history about the usage of Allah for God in the Bible first. Let's find out whether Arab Christians before Mohammed brought Islam and emphasize on the oneness of Allah were already using Allah in their Bible.
Also why Abdullah Mohammed's father name means "servant of Allah". To me, the name Abdullah is a prove already that people before Mohammed's time were already used to Allah. Why? Because they generally call any God Allah.

AntiChristian:
So who does the prophecy of Deuteronomy 18 apply to? Which Prophet is like Moses?

Luke 24:44
[44]Then he said, “When I was with you before, I told you that everything written about me in the law of Moses and the prophets and in the Psalms must be fulfilled.”

John 5:46
[46]If you really believed Moses, you would believe me, because he wrote about me.

Not only Moses wrote about Jesus, other prophets wrote about him too.
See Jesus Christ is unique. He wasn't like every other prophet. He had a preexistence before he became a human.

Every other prophet was born normally through copulation while Jesus who was a spirit being in heaven (every creature in heaven is spirit being) was transferred to Mary's womb miraculously by God.

AntiChristian:
I shouldn't respond to fools and blockhead nonentities who abuses Allah yet uses it in their Bible when it pleases them.

Let's finish this here .
Allah is the Arabic word for God just like El in Hebrew.

AntiChristian:
You be JW na!

Well, we also believe he was more than a prophet. He's God's begotten son!

AntiChristian:
I read a post where Rev. Yinka Yusuf claimed President Muhammad Buhari blasphemed by calling Jesus a Prophet. He continued in the video that Jesus is too big to be a Prophet, Jesus never called himself a Prophet, The Jews called him a Prophet, etc. https://www.nairaland.com/7130683/blasphemy-rev-yinka-yusuf-faults

But mind you, Jesus didn't call himself God anywhere in the Bible. The fact that Jesus worshiped God many times in the Bible buttresses this point.

More so, Muslims believe Jesus to be a Prophet according to the Islamic Books. So how is that blasphemy?

The Reverend also said in the video " How can Jesus be a Prophet? A Prophet is a messenger. Who would he be a messenger to?"

But on the contrary we found the verses below:

1. Jesus said, "I was sent only to the people of Israel! Matthew 15:24

2.Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. John 17:3

3. “But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.” Matthew 24:36

4. But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. Mark 13:32

This is a definite proof that the Final Hour is unknown to any but God, thus Jesus’ knowledge is imperfect like all other men; God Alone is All-Knowing, Omniscient.

5. “And he (Jesus) went a little farther, and fell on his face and prayed, saying, ‘O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as Thou wilt.’ “ Matthew 26:39

We note here that the person speaking is unaware of God’s Will and realizes the fact that he is a servant of God. He (God) Alone can cause the change.

6And finally the Prophecy of Moses in Deuteronomy 18:18 where Yahweh says:
I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their fellow Israelites, and I will put my words in his mouth. He will tell them everything I command him.

If Jesus fulfilled this Prophecy how is Jesus not a Prophet?
So what was the Reverend saying?

It's not blasphemy.

Protest to who?
Your protest won't stop anything whether peaceful or not.

We should keep praying and trusting JEHOVAH for our protection and future.

RoyalDiadems:
Isaiah 9:6 I mean. Sorry for the error.

It says the child shall be called mighty God, everlasting father etc. So what do you want to point out from the verse?

RoyalDiadems:
Get a real Bible and find the truth. Stop reading the JW Bible that has been edited to suit the doctrines of its founders.

Isaiah 6:9 clearly states who Jesus is for all eternity.

Where in Isaiah 6:9?

MaxInDHouse:
Just read your own post again and try to imagine how you expect any right thinking person to respond.
Well had it not being for Trivina (my wife) if i happens to catch you one on one i'll just grab you and give you a wet kiss on those noisy lips because i believe that will go a long way!
Lots of love and kisses from MaxInDHouse!

PeaceJoyLove:
You don enter am with me. Go ask Max.
Who are gods here? Everyone? Explain well. If we are gods.... and you use John 1.1 and it says "a god"... Jesus too is. So, who is Jesus to you? Explain well.
Answer them yourself. You are the preachers...we dont know.
Really? Where is it written Jesus said so? Really? Show us.
You said we are gods. In John 1.1 you called Jesus a god. To me it is on the same level. If you are gods, and Jesus is one. Why do you even make reference to him? You are supernatural too na. My own is that if we are gods, why cant we do what Jesus did? You are saying we are all on the same level with Jesus. But why is this Jesus the one you regard also. Why are you not as powerful as this Jesus?
I have more questions:

1. Why did you change God to "a god" in your Bible?
2. You always teach few will go to heaven and the rest will remain on earth. Prove this..
3. Prove that the story of Lazaru and the rich man is and true or false.
These are your teachings.....so, it is on you to explain all. If you dont, I will keep asking you. I swear. You are the one telling us that your god is the only God. You say willl go heaven too. It is in your Bible that you use "a god". So, come out and answer everything explicitly.

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We believe that Jehovah Witness is a cult that should be outlawed, just as it is in Russia. Why? They also promote many unproven doctrines and strange teachings as gospel. And they compel and force people to conform to their standards. If you ask them more questions, they will not respond because they do not have answers. They would rather force you to accept their faith. We are using this medium to tell them to force their beliefs on those who visit their shrines rather than forcing them on the general public.
As a result, we recommend that you do not accept all Jehovah Witness posts as the truth, but rather contributions that one of them has accepted. We have an evidence to back this up. And their contributions could be either false or true. We advise you not to take Jehovah Witness posts as the gospel. Please take the time to read and ask questions whenever you read their posts. Also, read other people's opinions and compare them with their. I assure you that you will see lies in their teachings.
In short, there are strong indications that Jehovah Witness is a cult you should avoid.
For example:
Jehovah Witnesses always mention Jesus. This Jesus they keep mentioning, why did they use "a god" to address him? Why? Mind you...they have said many times that Jesus or God dont speak to us anyone, but we learn through the Bible. And we know that Jehovah Witness read KJV which didnt call Him .."a god" till 1940s. So, how did they know that Jesus is "a god"? Please...Jesus and God cannot tell them ooo because they said they both dont speak to us again...and the available scriptures did not call Him "a god". How did they come about this?
Hmmm... So, if they can explain well, we will know they know this Jesus intimately. If they cannot answer, do they have the right to right to call on Jesus?
Peace be unto everyone!

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Pls calm down.

If don't learn how to keep your post short and precise, sorry I won't be responding to your post.

Did you sleep well?

[quote author=tctrills post=112865470][/quote]Psalms 82:6-7 KJV
[6]I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
[7]But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.

Who are the men? Are the men part of the people called gods?

Who are the princes? Didn't the verse show clear distinction between those God called gods and the princes?

So did God called everyone god? Or just some certain people he likened to men and princes?

Princes are rulers baba.

Janosky:
Peace wey no get Joy desperado tactics to cover up & disguise her poor comprehension skills.
Very shallow and dull witted.

Pls gentle with her

PeaceJoyLove:
"Bloda" Cornel... na you know ooo. Na you should explain it. Na you change the God in KJV you (Jehovah Witness) dey previously use to "a god". So, make una come tell us the reason na. Abi you no know? You just dey ginger dey do "follow follow"? You dont know what you are following?
It will be bad. Please, a beg.. if you can help out... I didn't say anything I was just asking...and Max could not help out and tell us why you changed God to a god. Na so Jokasky or wetin be im moniker again start quoting many verses. And one na John 1.1 he said it is "a god" there. And I said that but Jehovah witness be dey use King James Version before 1960 na...why dem kon change am to "a god" in 1940. Oga no gree answer ooo. Oga dey quote say Paul was called a god, Jewish called Jesus a god. Na there a kon say ...shooo? Wetin be this long journey...a beg a no get that kain 40 years waka wey the Isrealite waka for desert ... go straight to the point...why una change God to "a god". Shikena.
How many Jevovah Witnesses have tried answering? I think 3 so far now. You are the fourth. So, let's go there.
I pray you survive this...if you do, we will talk about your heaven on earth. You go prove how real and how true say some few go hustle enter heaven. I am interested. Also, you go tell us that Lazarus story....e dey real or na ghost story Jesus just rap about it?
Let's go. Start talking.. na your doctrine. Start explaining.

I asked a simple question and you wrote an epistle lol.

Is there any difference between god, God and GOD?

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You insult basically everyone. Just go through all you have posted in the last week and compare it to others on the platform.

First show me where I have insulted you and then show me where I insulted others.
You are a lair.

You replied him. We both agreed not to communicate and I intend to keep my part for his sake.

My response to him is none of your business. I didn't mention or refer to you. You have no reason to quote me on that.
Abeg no do that next time.

I read what you write. You seem to carry a chip on your shoulders. It's like you are at war with other organizations. But they are not fighting you back.

I'm not at war with anybody.

Are you in the army? It seems you like wars and fight

tctrills:
Assuming you are correct, The verse was referring only to Israeli leaders, now answer these questions below.

A. we all are Gods
B. God created some to be Gods and others not to be Gods.
C. God created none to be Gods.

Read the whole of Psalm 82 and understand what the psalmist was saying.

No, but the verse never mentions it was referring to rulers.

So who were those God was talking to in verse 7 lol.
You can't just pick verse 6 out like that and give your interpretation to it. Verse 7 explained the people God was referring to at verse 6.

There is no where in the whole chapter where God called everyone god.

2. If the Israeli leadership are sons of God does that mean Jesus was not the first Son of God sent to man?

Incoherent.
If everyone is son of God as you were saying, then Jesus couldn't be the first son of God sent to man. Also the every man would be gods.

1. When did Israeli leadership stop being Gods?

It wasn't a continuous statement. God called them gods simple.

3. Were these men Gods and Sons of God before being called to leadership or does one become a son of God by virtue of a leadership Position?

According to that chapter, they were rulers.
And God called thems gods and sons of god.
And when Jesus quoted that verse, he was referring to those people God called gods. He didn't say everyone is god.

4. Only one of these is correct. Choose the correct one according to Psalms.

Your in no position to tell me one of the options are correct.

God called some certain people gods. They were obviously rulers and God said they would die like mere mortals just like every other rulers.

PeaceJoyLove:
Obviously my God is not the same as your god.
You serve "a god", while I serve God. Go and find the meaning to this. Also, check out very well the real meaning of "a god". There is nothing like "a God". That is the mystery and the lies you dont get. How I wish you are teachable....you could have seen the truth yourself...but you dont want to.

Sister peace what's the difference between god, God and GOD

tctrills:
I understand these are your beliefs but they are all wrong. Just to show you how wrong you are, Let me pretend that Psalms 82.6 was referring only to Israeli leadership, Are you prepared to answer questions in that regard?
1. When did Israeli leadership stop being Gods?
2. If the Israeli leadership are sons of God does that mean Jesus was not the first Son of God sent to man?
3. Were these men Gods and Sons of God before being called to leadership or does one become a son of God by virtue of a leadership Position?
To make it very easy for you, let me quote the verse from the JW bible
“I have said, ‘You are gods,
All of you are sons of the Most High.
4. Only one of these is correct. Choose the correct one according to Psalms.
A. we all are Gods
B. God created some to be Gods and others not to be Gods.
C. God created none to be Gods.
Note you are not allowed to twist the word of God here. it clearly says, All of you are sons of the Most high. It also says you are Gods, not You are like God or You are in a position of God. This is direct speech.
Still using the JW bible, lets check out Jesus response. Jesus answered them: “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I said: “You are gods”’?*+ 35[b] If he called ‘gods’+ those against whom the word of God came[/b]—and yet the scripture cannot be nullified

Clearly, these "leaders" were Gods. Christ affirmed it by saying If he called ‘gods’+ those against whom the word of God came[/b]—and yet the scripture cannot be nullified.
I am being super nice to you today and quoting from your favorite bible.
Over to you sir.
Remember, you promised to be here for me.

You can pretend to be super nice all you want, suit yourself.
Mind you, JW Bible is not my favourite. I only use it when I'm studying with them using the JW.org app.
I used different versions of the Bible and I use NLT mostly.

Psalms 82:6-7
[6]I say, ‘You are gods;
    you are all children of the Most High.
[7]But you will die like mere mortals
    and fall like every other ruler.’”

Who are those God said would die like mere mortals?

Who are the mere mortals?

Who are the 'every other rulers'? Can everyone be rulers?

Jesus quoted that verse explaining to the people with him that if God could call those people (rulers, leaders, judges) gods, how much more him, the direct son of God.

tctrills:
I followed. Your brother quoted me and you replied.
There are thousands of Christians making their argument on this platform daily. But a few of you have become Marchants of hate. All Christians disagree but you guys are ready to fight and go dirty.
I have learnt in life that the person selling falsehood is always prepared to take the argument to a fight.
Be an example of a believer in conversation.
If awards are given for the top10 most insultive people on this religious platform easily, 3 of you would win awards.
You fail to realize that most people here sincerely want to serve God. But if they don't agree with you, insults would follow.

Lol. Just shows me where I have insulted you. You know that's a lie huh?

He quoted you, you should face him not me. I didn't quote you nor referred to you.

Stop spreading your lies. Your the one full of hate by purposely spreading lies about us.

Have I ever fought you?

When I consistently proclaim Bible's TRUTHs, you don't call it fight.

FatherOfJesus:
Prove it

How many people know you as Jehovah?

haekymbahd:
I think what is confusing is when christians see Jesus as God and also (Servant) sent by God in the same bible....

When you see the word 'God', it could refer to any person.

The name of God of Moses and Jesus, the true God is Yahweh (transliterated to Jehovah).

There are many Gods/gods/GODS, but Jehovah is the true Almighty GOD.

HedwigesMaduro:
Surprised the religion is confusing and confused at the same time?

Lol

Radamelt:
Show me a verse that says this and I will accept christainity today

On one hand, the Quran commands all Muslims to show kindness to their parents, even if they are disbelievers (Q. 17:23-24, 31:14-15, 29:8, etc.).
On the other hand it demands not to show any love or friendship to those who oppose Muhammad, even if they are their parents (Q. 9:23, 58:22).

FatherOfJesus:
I'm Jehovah

Then your a false Jehovah.

tctrills:
I have nothing to offer you. And yes we do not agree. But unlike you, I am not fighting a religious war. The only reason we do not agree is that you choose to go against the bible.
Please tell your jw friend that I have never tried to dissuade you or convince you to join any church. So he can calm down. I am very different from the both of you. I never engage in insults and I do not go about fighting religious wars. My views are wild spread as I don't preach the ideas of any sect.

Lol. Your a Mormon obviously. If your not, your definitely reading about their doctrines to counter us.


I wasn't actually referring to you at first. I was referring to Emusan. You didn't follow the thread well.

tctrills:
.

You and your bestie have become notorious for rudeness, insults, and religious wars. I don't know your intentions online but clearly, they are not good.

You have wild imaginations lol.

You begin to hate me because I would always correct and have an answer for all your wrong notions.

How did I hate you and how did you correct my wrong notions. I laugh in nairaland

Your recent discussion with me where you said God was referring to everyone as God at Psalm 82:9, is that what you call correction?

Obviously you were the one that gave the wrong notions and I was correcting you.

I would continue to be here for you as much as I can.
I hope you would learn and improve. My intentions are never to preach or convert so tell your boss to have no fears

If you thought you've been here for me, sorry you've been wasting your time.

Your other wrong notions;

God is a state not a person

Jesus is Jehovah himself

The blood of Christ was already working for old covenant people...


I'll be here for you.

Ayesolve:
Your papa

I know if you had the chance, you would behead me.

Real Muslims go violent.

FatherOfJesus:
Prove that I'm not Jehovah

Your what you are.

Ayesolve:
Nigeria Northern Muslims are the most stupid set of Muslims in the world, they are always making Islam looks like a bad religion.

They are the ones practising the religion just as Mohammed left it.
What do you know about Islam in country like Sudan, iran, iraq, dubai and other Islamic states?

MaxInDHouse:
You and this your friends!
They're coming for you because you told them you're not yet baptized so they feel they can still convince you to turn away from JWs most especially the Tctrills guy!

You saw his response?
He has nothing to offer. You can't even have a meaningful discussion with him.

FatherOfJesus:
I'm a failure, That's why I am Jehovah. I always do not show up when needed

No your not Jehovah. Your just a foolish empty athiest.
Jehovah the true God proved himself to be Jehovah.

What name did your father name you?

sagenaija:
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haekymbahd,
How about these:
Koran 9:29: “Fight against Christians and Jews until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.”
Koran 5:51: “Don’t take Jews or Christians for friends. If you do, then Allah will consider you to be one of them.”
Koran 2:65-66: “Christians and Jews must believe what Allah has revealed to Muhammad or Allah will disfigure their faces or turn them into apes, as he did the Sabbath-breakers.”
Koran 9:30: "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"
Can you explain them to us?
ISLAM SPEAKS FROM BOTH SIDES OF THE MOUTH!

The Koran is so full of conflicting verses like that.

For example in some verses it says Muslims should show kindness to their parents no matter what even if they are disbelievers. In other verses, it says you should not show kindness to them if they are disbelievers or oppose Mohammed.

How much more Deborah who was not a family member