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are we still on this topic? for how long are we going to be talking about jackal? is this a plot to allow jackal's enemies to say their minds about him?
this is a forum for christ's sake and things like this happen everywhere in the world. if u cannot live with someone on a board then bond with somebody else. jackal's analysis makes the sports section buzz. i cannot count the number of times i have tried to google an information and it takes me straight to the sports section of nairaland. his thread has the highest number of pages on the forum and that is because jackal and other fans(arsenal, chelsea and portsmouth) of the forum discuss football at the very best.

i don't understand why people take this online stuffs so serious. we are all virtual people. i will never meet 99.999% of the members of this thread so if anyone disrespects me, he or she is just wasting his/her time. let us learn to tolerate one another so this mud-slinging and clear back-biting can stop.
at the end of the day, u own the forum and the overall decision should be yours but please unlock red devil's thread. matches will be played tomorrow and we need to analyse soccer. justkunmi, tkb417 and naija4eva are itching to comment or get information on the thread but we have not been able to use the thread.

@ seun,

u banned jackal?
now this place is going to be so boring.
he is a valuable asset.
people provoke him to react and i cannot blame anyone fighting in self defence.

pls unban him.

my point is u should get a life.
stop acting like a netizen gangstar.
what i wrote did not warrant an insult.

@ dayokanu,

why cant u just face facts?
a typical man utd team will start gary neville/brown, rio, scholes, carrick, hargreaves and rooney.
chelsea will start terry, lampard, joe cole, wright-phillips and ashley cole.

@ otele,

eboue is crap and there's no achievement in topping the premiership in november.
what has eboue won as a player in his entire life? nothing! eboue is yet to win any title for a team or individually and he is 24.
lennon is 20. he has got better chances of winning titles than eboue. who knows? lennon might move to another club.

u cannot judge a player's ability from one single match.
leo messi had a horrible display last weekend when they were beaten 2-0. rijkaard had to remove him and ronaldinho out of the match because he didnt put a pass right for almost 75 mins. does that mean messi is crap?
richards had a bad day in the office against chelsea. this happens from time to time. eboue has never had a good day in the office.
i am yet to see eboue win man of the match in any game he has played. he is just crap.

i never said lennon and richards are world class. all i said was the 2 of them are better than emma eboue.
eboue is not even premiership class let alone world class. i can count 5 english players better than eboue on any given day.
i just dont rate eboue at all. he will not even win the best player for his country let alone be nominated in africa.
take it or drop it, eboue is crap!

p.diddy richer than beckham? lololololololololol
unforgivable? who wears unforgivable? school kids i guess.
diddy thrives on past glory. his income is dipping every year.
i have an article somewhere, i will post it here when i get ma hands on em. a financial analyst reported how diddy might end up bankrupt if care is not taken. judges are on his case because he keeps failing to live up to his parental responsibilities.
the more he earns, the more he pays his enstranged wife and kids. his monthly payments for justin used to be $3000. it was hiked by a judge to $35,000 in 2001 and was recently hiked to $135k in 2006. his wife also gets pay checks from diddy as part of family support.
becks is worth abt $220 mil. diddy owns just 50% of bad boy records and i am not sure bad boy is worth $50 mil. sean john is about $100 mil.
figure it out and get back to me if u really think diddy is richer than beckham.

this is why arsenal fans are known to be biased all over the world.
eboue plays in uefa because arsenal plays in the champions league. if lennon and richards play for any of the big teams in england, they will also play in the champions league. eboue playing in the champions league is no individual achievement, its a team effort.
what contribution did eboue make in uefa/world cup or can 2006? he was just a nonentity. i cant remember him doing anything remarkable.
lennon went to the world cup at age 19, he came on against portugal after rooney was sent off and he played so well in a 10-man team.
richards is also a strong defender who is holding his own weight. his defensive abilities is better than eboue.
eboue is just what he is---crap!

u are an arsenal fan so i can understand where u coming from.
arsenal fans are known to hype up their players even though they know most of them cant play good football.
who is eboue? a player who is yet to score a premier league goal for arsenal in 50 appearances?
ok, u will say he is a defender but i know many great english defenders better than him.
micah richards is a better defender than eboue and lennon is a better winger than eboue.
if u have any proof to counter this statement, pls bring it out and skip the muppet show.

@ A-40,

roc-a-wear sold for $200 million should tell u sean john wont sell more than $100 mil.
how much is $100 mil when david beckham is worth about $220 mil?
i am telling u p.diddy as a producer/artiste is a broke ass nigga. he spends more than he earns.
bad boy records has no credible artiste in its camp, sales are at a record low, nothing is bringing in the benjyz.
he is only living on past glory, i wont be surprised if he goes bankrupt in the next 18 months.

every player has suffered being under the cosh.
its part of their experience. how do u expect them to get better if there r no dark days?
peter crouch made eboue look like a conference league player last season when he bagged a hatrick against the gunners last season.
eboue was at fault for the 3 goals gangling crouch scored on the day. he is not a premiership material.
wenger should ship him back to asec mimosa.

lolololololololol.

micah richards makes eboue looks like a kindergarten defender.
eboue is nothing but a diver. no strength, no pace and no technical ability.
he looks decent because he plays for arsenal. eboue has no ball retention capacity.
i dont know any player worse than eboue in giving the ball away.
aaron lennon is no british hype. he was one of the best english players when england crashed out at the world cup.
he has got pace, technical ability,and can dribble. arsenal fans will tell u richards and lennon are better than eboue.

@ davidylan,

emmanuel eboue is just sloppy. he gives the ball away more than any player in the premier league.
i can count many english players better than eboue at the right back or on the right side of the midfield.
micah richards of man city is a better right back defender than emmanuel eboue, aaron lennon is better than him as a right winger.
lennon only finished 3rd behind ronaldo and cesc as the pfa young player of the year last season. he has scored goals for tottenham and he was awesome against portugal at the 2006 world cup.
eboue is yet to score a premier league goal for arsenal after 50 appearances.

@ davidylan,

i am enjoying this discussion.
let me deal with the questions u raised one by one with incisive precision.
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rooney an average player? thats negative.
wayne became a star at everton after putting an end to arsene wenger's 30th unbeaten run at the age of 18.
rooney scored 4 goals at euro 2004 and was by far the best player of that tournament before he joined man utd at all. he was a better player in 2006 than thierry henry if we remove sentiments and balderdash.

i can as well remove hargreaves and replace him with carrick. anderson better than paul scholes? now you're beginning to bore me.
paul scholes was by far the best united player last season at the age of 32.
rio is 30 million pounds but man utd is not complaining, are they? kolo toure is 10k pounds but what has he achieved as a player for club/country?
i am yet to see him make pfa team or make caf list in africa.
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terry and lampard are the heart and soul of chelsea. man city's game is just one game out of many games chelsea has won with style.
any ardent chelsea fan knows the input terry/lamps put into the team is unquantifiable. no terry/lamps, no chelsea.
jose mourinho once said lamps and terry are untouchables. that shows how good, efficient and professional these players are.
same theory applies to gerrard and carragher. gerrard single-handedly won 2005 champions league for liverpool.
carragher was immense at the back blocking the efforts of world class strikers in shevchenko and crespo. gerrard makes alonso look like puppy.
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man utd was lucky to win uefa in 1999? were they also lucky to win the premiership? and lucky to win the fa cup?
omg!!!!! you are killing me here with your analysis. how can a team win the treble with sheer luck?
it was more than luck given the circumstances. no keane and scholes in the uefa final and united still won the final with style and class.
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lolololololol, one english player better than eboue? well, i don't have to look too far. aaron lennon of tottenham is technically and tactically better than emmanuel eboue of arsenal. i will rather have lennon than eboue who shouldnt even be playing in the premier league.
for your information, lennon at 18 was acquired for just 1mil pounds in 2005 while eboue was bought for 1.54 mil pounds at 21 + x years(african).
so tell me, who is more cost effective?
what makes english national team poor? they have crashed out in so many competitions via penalty shoot-outs.
their dismal performance is largely due to ill-luck rather than mediocrity.

@ davidylan,

u don't get this, do u?
no one is saying england should not play foreigners at all. what we are saying is clubs should reduce the number of foreigners they play.
aston villa has an english spine and they are mediocre, man utd has an english spine and they are the best in the country.
rio-hargreaves-scholes-rooney makes united tick. how can u use aston villa as a classic example?
take terry and lampard out of chelsea team and they have no life. take carragher and gerrard out of liverpool and they have no soul.
the man utd team that won uefa in 1999 had 5 english players. if scholes wasn't suspended, it would have been 6 english players.
my point is, teams like arsenal can actually do better signing quality english players instead of adebayor, song and eboue.
peter crouch, bent, lita, agbonlahor, defoe will do a better job than adebayor. i don't need to have a rocket science brain to know that.
england has quality but they under-achieve just like so many teams in europe. spain, netherlands and portugal also fall in this cat!

@ davidylan,

i don't know where to start.
will i be watching wigan v derby game over real madrid V barcelona?
is that your comparison? do i even need to argue when your comparison of english strength to spanish is derby/wigan fame?
bayern munich players also have as many foreign players as bolton. ribery, luca toni, van bommel, lucio etc are foreigners.
agbonlahor is a good striker and its very glaring he is better than adebayor by all means.
lets swap their places and u will be amazed how inefficient adebayor will look in a mediocre team.
recent performances has got nothing to do with quality. every team suffers a blip. france once failed to qualify for a world cup tournament.
brazil once struggled and had to do it on their last qualifying match to qualify.
how does qualification to a tournament amounts to the litmus test of determining the strength of a team?
guys, give it a break, england has quality.

@ dayokanu,

its deeper than that.
premiership teams are great to watch these days and i will watch epl 20 times over before tuning to any other leagues.
bundesliga is gone, they are living on past glory. violence and match-fixing scandals have ripped out the heart of italian league.
spanish la liga thrives on south americans as well.
there are so many english talents lying around the country but the massive migration of the foreigners are undermining their development.
how can anyone say england has no quality?

its bad news for arsenal fans in general.
they have no english player in their squad thus wishing the worst for england.
most of em are in menstrual pains now that that russia was beaten blueblack.
england should qualify on wednesday. i dont see croatia beating england at wembley.

@ davidylan,

a bottom side bolton was forced to a 2-2 draw by bayern munich in germany.
thats enough proof that english players can hold their weights in europe.
derby didnt qualify on merit, they qualified through play-offs so dont even use derby county as a yard stick.
leroy lita has not been playing because he is injured, it has nothing to do with his ability.
agbonlahor is better than adebayor by all means. pace, aerial ability, power and positioning.
i can name 30 english players better than adebayor in the premiership.
no one is saying all the foreigners should ship out but they should be reduced.

israel wins 2-1
all the england haters-shame on u!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
england now needs just a draw at wembley to qualify.
what a relief!

Uche2nna:
You must be kidding, right

i dont kid, i have followed adebayor's career since he started at metz in france.
the highest goal adebayor has ever scored in a season in all competitions is 12 goals.
name me any striker in the premiership that has scored less playing in top flight football in the last 5 years.

@ A-40,

i stayed in the US and i know what i am talking about.
if p.diddy sells sean john? he will prolly sell it for $(150-200) million.
that sounds nice but then again the various law suits and child support he has gotten himself into will eat deep into his pockets.
the more u earn, the more u pay for your children and the numerous enstranged wives.
diddy is bleeped.

@ A-40,

you are a clown.
how much revenue does the viewers in nigeria generate for skytv? please count nigeria out of this.
the real mccoy is the british market where each customer pay nothing less than 500 pounds annually.
meanwhile, there are 10 million sky viewers in the uk alone . . .  . . . . i am not sure other viewers pay as much.
africa is seen as a poor continent so massive discounts apply.
besides, i am not sure kanu and okocha were the reasons why nigerians watch the premiership, nigerians have been watching it since 1992.
how do u begin to compare agbonlahor to adebayor? they are miles apart. adebayor is the wackest striker in the premiership.

@ A-40,

p.diddy worth $400 million? its a facade.
that nigga is worth zilch. when was the last time he sold platinum?
u have been reading wikipedia that was written in 1998/1999. p.diddy makes nuthing and all what u see on mtv is just a farce.
dinho banks $60 million every year and that might improve soon if he joins chelsea.
p.diddy's wealth is going down by the minute with various lawsuits from ex-wives and ex-employees.
these days, he pays more than he earns and dont be surprised if he goes down like iron mike tyson.

the english league is what it is today because of the fa.
the money generated through packaging, broadcasting and tv rights and the sponsorship.
foreigners have no serious influence on this league apart from the added quality.
imagine the fa paying btw 30-50 million pounds to each club in the premiership at the end of last season.
money made premiership what it is today.

@ uchenna,

some clubs in the bottom half of the table will beat real sociedad and real mallorca.
lets be realistic, spanish la liga is filled with south americans. take them out and they are useless as well.
there's quality in england if these foreigners can allow young english players to come of age.
sidwell, agbonlahor, ashley young, leroy lita are good prospects but they have not been given the chance to really show their premium quality.
is adebayor better than agbonlahor? or pizarro better than leroy lita?

@ A-40,

now i know u don't know anything about football.
ronaldinho is richer than all the guys i listed above.
if u don't believe me, check forbes. ronaldinho surpassed beckham as the most marketable player in the world generating $60 mil annually.
the last time p.diddy made $50 m yearly income was 1997 when notorious b.i.g. died and p. diddy's "i'll be missing u" topped billboard charts.
ronaldinho is money. wayne rooney looks better than ronaldinho by all means. are u kidding?

@ A-40,

its ridiculous!
negro please, looks has nothing to do with endorsements and charisma.
how would u react if i tell u ronaldinho is richer than p.diddy, matt damon, tyra banks, justin timberlake and george clooney?
come on, ronaldinho cannot even speak english for a start and is uglier than wayne rooney.
football is growing enormously and i wont place a bet players wont be earning 300k pounds a week in the next couple of years.
besides, beckham's endorsements will dry up as soon as he stops playing for club and country(3 years max).
wayne rooney has 10-13 years to earn mad wages and the wages will even go higher than what we see today.

@ davidylan,

english players cannot play anywhere else because the premiership is the best league in the world.
why would any top english player ply his trade elsewhere in europe when there's sterling quality in england?
english players are over-paid because england has one of the highest cost of living in the world.
i think players deserve what they earn because the tv money and the money involved in the whole shebang is very high.

@ A-40,

no one is saying rooney is as appealing as beckham or as rich as beckham as of today.
the truth is, rooney has got the potentials to be richer and more famous than david beckham.
there's more to rooney's popularity than looks, charisma, hair-styles and swagger.
rooney is the english media's choice as the next english icon. he plays for a big club under a great manager and earns mad wages.
he is young, has 10-12 more years to play and many more endorsements in his industrous career.
rooney will catch up with beckham in the next 3 years.

@ i-man,

i cannot understand how the fellas on this forum think.
the wages footballers earn these days is more than enough reason to even put rooney ahead of beckham in a couple of years.
we all know posh beckham was a spice girl before meeting david, coleen was a normal schoolgirl 4 years ago and she is now worth 7 million.
she does no work/job and became rich due to rooney's influence. she's written books, writes columns for popular magazines, was paid half a million pounds by LG and paid 3 million pounds by asda.
how is face a factor in football? ronaldinho? luiz ronaldo? are they not rich and famous?

@ brushparke,

its not a matter of being a force to reckon with. its the people's choice.
the english public decides who their icon is by hyping them up and building the world around them.
english media makes them rich . . .  .its has nuthing to do with whether rooney is a force or not.
they have already chosen him to be the next english icon . . . . .the media is on his case like they were on beckham's case 10 years ago.
everywhere u look . . . its wayne rooney & coleen mcloughlin(his fiance) just like it was david beckham and victoria adams.
coleen was nobody but due to rooney's influence . . . .she is now worth about 7 million pounds and she is just 21.
she was able to get various endorsements just because she is dating wayne rooney.
rooney plays for the biggest team in england where he is bound to be successful for the next 10 years.
he is under the guidance of ferguson(the same manager that made beckham). its inevitable, rooney is the next english icon.
rooney will get richer than beckham in a matter of years!!!

@ I-man,

i expect arsenal fans to come here with their balderdash as usual.
the list u posted is quite old, that was 2006.
this is the new list . . . . . .

The Top Ten Players are:

1) David Beckham, 32, LA Galaxy - £112m
2) Michael Owen, 27, Newcastle Utd -£37m
3) Robbie Fowler, 32, Cardiff City -£30m
4) Wayne Rooney, 22, Man Utd -£30m
5) Sol Campbell, 33, Portsmouth -£28m
6) Andriy Shevchenko, 31, Chelsea - £25m
7) Rio Ferdinand, 29, Man Utd - £25m
8 Ryan Giggs, 33, Man Utd - £23m
9) Michael Ballack, 31, Chelsea - £18m
10) Steven Gerrard, 27, Liverpool -£15m

as u can see, rooney is the only under 25 on this list which means he still has about 8 more years to build up and even overtake david beckham.
the current prediction stands at 150 million pounds by the time he clocks david beckham's age of 32.
current earnings stands at 12 million pounds a year . . . . he has endorsements with nike, coke zero, asda, ford sports, ea sports and harper collins worth a further 17 million pounds. all will be hiked and extended before his career ends . . . . .
without a doubt, rooney will definitely surpass david beckham by the time he clocks 32 years of age.
beckham didnt even have 10 million in 1997 when he was 22 and rooney already has 30 million at 22.