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Nigeria moved up 10 places to number 34 from 44. Now 3rd in Africa. Keshi inherited a team that was 63, yet people say he is crap. |
Nigeria moved up 10 places to number 34 from 44. Now 3rd in Africa. Keshi inherited a team that was 63, yet people say he is crap. |
Nnewi1stSon: Those Glory days...Hhm, that's the "awoof" that our parents ate, that is now "running" our own bellies. |
MzJackBaueress: They look like students in a boarding school wearing school uniforms. Nothing attractive about it.That was the fashion trend at that time. Guess you're too young to know. |
Fulaman198: But it's not personal gain though, usually I agree with you, but right now my brother I disagree. If you perform poorly at a world cup, you eliminate chances of club teams being interested in you. That in the long run can be detrimental to the Super Eagles.Don't mind Rossikki and his likes abeg. Shouting match-fixing is a new fad for them. Whenever the team loses now, it is match-fixing. Nigeria is such a super-footballing nation that they can't lose a game except it was fixed. SMH. |
inzek: How can a coach drop nnoso igabor.sunday mba and ike uche and take shola amobi.azeez and gabriel to world cup.And you already know the kind of players they will select? Did Siasia select Mba when he was coach? Did he use Omeruo or Oboabona? Were Onazi and Emenike an integral part of Siasia's team? Is it not the same Keshi that turned those guys into our first team regulars. Did he not bring Babatunde that turned out to be a revelation? You keep on focusing on the players he didn't invite while over-looking the ones he brought into the team. How many games did IK Uche and Igiebor play at the Nations Cup even though they were in the squad? They could as well have been at the World Cup and still not play a single minute. Did Siasia not kick out Osaze and Mikel from his team? At the end of the day you all called for his sack, even though he wasn't a bad coach. If the Oliseh and Siasia combination you're proposing don't win the next Nations Cup, will you not call for their sack as usual? |
mikeansy: So the solution is for a bunch of players to sign up to play for Nigeria only to get to major tournaments and refuse to play.Stop talking about stuff you don't know. Each German player has just earned 650K pounds for winning the World Cup. USA promised their team a million dollars if they win. Even clubsides promise special bonuses at the beginning of the season to their players if they win the league, FA cup or UCL. What stops the NFF from also saying we will pay you X amount and insisting that any player who doesn't agree should stay away? What stops them from introducing the much-talked about Code of Conduct that every player must sign? Or is that Keshi' job? I'll tell you what is stopping them. The win at all cost mentality of peeps like you. If the NFF put their foot down, it is folks like you that will criticise the NFF for preventing your best legs from playing in the national team. After all, they tried it in 2002 and got blasted by Nigerians after we crashed out of the Korea/Japan world cup. When Obasanjo introduced the "golden handshake" as reward for winning medals for the country, most of you criticised him and said he must reward with cash. Now you are complaining. |
MegMich: Keshi given so much? Soooo true!!! Nigeria has rather given him a lot. A chance to represent us as a player, an employment opportunity even when we could employ better hands and considering he had no job after been sacked by Mali and Togo, and an opportunity to explore our talented nation which however yielded meagre nations cup amid several poor showings(a cup common Zimbabwe won with so much flare). One would point to the fact they defeated. CIV. Hellooo! Zimbabwe did same.Zimbabwe? So Zimbabwe have won the Nations Cup? That's the extent of your football knowledge? I won't waste my time with you. Go and employ your World Class coaches like Largerback and co. I'm sure they'll win the World Cup in 2018. |
mikeansy: Not sure what you are getting at. I like to have a Nigerian coach and will still oppose any attempt by NFF to hire foreign coaches! But I also expect the Nigerian coaches to live up to expectation both in know how and in their conduct.My point is, just have you have pointed out, when the NFF need to arrange money to take care of their own vested interests, money is always available. But when it comes to paying players all we hear are stories. You speak as if you just arrived Nigeria last year. Experience is a great teacher. Many times the FA have reneged on pre-agreed bonus payments to Nigerian players, yet you expect them to continue to play the fool right. Go ask the ex-Falcons how much they are still being owed in match bonuses till date. I do not support bonus rows at football tourneys, but when a country and its FA build a legacy of mistrust, that is what you get. Yes, they are rich footballers, but even rich people don't like to be played for a fool. Again show me proof that Keshi instigated the bonus row. All you have done so far is make unsubstantiated claims. Keshi is the coach, but he can't exactly stop the players from talking to their FA. They are not babies. The problem is when ever Nigeria falls out of a tournament you lot are always looking for a scapegoat, and this time Keshi is it. https://www.nairaland.com/474270/how-german-machine-built-bottom I will suggest you go and read the above post again. After all you created the thread. That's how winning teams are built. All you lot do is scream sack. Sack Amodu, Sack Eguaveon, Sack Siasia, Sack Keshi. Now you people are clamouring for Oliseh. Then who next? Kanu, Finidi, Okocha? What is the essence of clamouring for a local coach if you won't give him the opportunity to build over time and learn from his mistakes. Nah, you all want the quick fix. Appoint a coach today and make him win the World Cup in 2-3 years. I hope you know the next Nations Cup is just 6 months away. So, what happens if your new coach fails to retain the title? Yeah, sack him too! |
mikeansy: why does the NFF always find money to pay foreign coaches mega salaries but never able to pay Nigerian coaches on time even though the salaries of Nigerian coaches are no where near those of their foreign counterparts?@Mikeansy, have you been able to answer this question yet? It's been almost a year since you asked. ![]() |
MegMich: Instilling discipline is the hallmark of good managerial prowess;as such keshi is directly or indirectly invovled. Besides,we need no evidence to prove his involvement in such demeaning act. He's always been after NFF's purse. Need not talk of how the Siasia led team that came second against the Messi led team. NFF cared less until the team started doing well. Now you draw against Iran and hey!, I've to be paid.It is obvious I'm talking to young people who don't know Stephen Keshi's history. I laugh in Greek. So, Keshi has not given to Nigeria right? The same Keshi that played for Nigeria when he was just a school boy. Do you think they were paying him bonuses in dollars then. I bet you were one of those rejoicing when we won the Nations Cup last year. You guys mention countries where things work, where people don't even have to demand or go on strike to get what is rightfully theirs. Of course they will be willing to participate knowing fully well that what ever is due to them, they will get. Do English clubs owe players like they do in the Nigerian league? Have you heard that doctors went on strike in the UK, France, Spain, Germany or US recently? Have their University lecturers gone on strike recently? Do they have to beg for electricity or clean water? The problem with Nigerians is that we have been so impoverished that we don't even know how to demand for our rights anymore. We are just too docile. We accept whatever handouts our leaders give to us. You think those players are demanding for their bonuses because they are hungry? No sir, they are only demanding that the FA do the right thing instead of embezzling what has been allocated to them. Mr. I rep Naija, maybe you'd like to work in any Nigerian ministry of your choice without pay? I'm sure they'll gladly employ you. The PM can always pocket your salary, abi? |
mikeansy: Then why do we bother going?Please show me proof that he instigated the row or stop peddling "dem say, dem say" rumours. Where you in the camp in Brazil? Did you witness Keshi instigating anything? And has FIFA indicted Ejide? I think you are the one who likes to revel in unproven conspiracy theories just to pull your fellow man down. I bet if Ejide was the one who conceded a late goal in the finals like Romero, you would have shouted match-fixing. Maybe Enyeama fixed for Messi to score that free kick against him too. The same sports people who served their country for upwards of 15 years. Who brought smiles to the faces of Nigerians at Tunisia 94, USA 94, Atlanta 96, South Africa 2013. They are the same sports men that your like ridicule once the going is not good and accuse of all sorts of falsehood. Your likes booed Yekini out of the Eagles saying he was spent; ridiculed Oliseh and Finidi out of the national team for leading a similar bonus row. Your likes insulted Okocha when we failed to qualify for the 2006 World Cup. Too many players sent into early national team hiatus before their time. But years down the line you begin to cry "Oh, if only we had another Oliseh, Finidi or Okocha". Yet you ridiculed them and labelled them Super Chickens in their time. What kind of fans do that? A problem has prevailed over several generations of players, and you still think the players are the problem. Are you even witnessing the mess going on in the NFF at the moment? Is that how FA's around the globe operate? Are those causing the mess that has led to Fifa suspending us doing it for the good of Nigerians? Or you think the players and coaches are blind to all of this? The next Nations Cup where we are supposed to be defending our trophy is barely 6 months away and the Fa is not think of preparing. But fans like you will make the coach (Keshi or whoever they appoint) the scapegoat if we fail and pour all sorts of vitriol on them. And as for the soldiers you mentioned, have you wondered why some of them have been alleged to give weapons to criminals and terrorists? Have you wondered why they don't respond to distress calls sometimes? Did you not read about the mutiny in a barracks in Borno? Get real bro. Nobody likes to play the fool, national pride or not. |
mikeansy: I don't see any difference when a coach instructs his players to protest in the middle of World Cup, or players who refuse to focus on the greater price of winning the World Cup but instead focus on bonus protest or a goal keeper who collects money from betting syndicates in order to throw the ball into his own net.Pride of what nation? The same nation that lets past footballers who played for pride waste away as beggars? The same Nation that uses and dumps players in their hour of need after years of selfless service. The same nation with fans like you who rubbish the players in the twilight of their careers? You find it so convenient to accuse Ejide of a "crime" that he has not been indicted for, not to talk of being found guilty of. Your FA owed a coach who played for the same Nation from 1980 to 1994 for seven good months. The same player who literally sweated blood to earn us our 1st World Cup berth in far away Algeria back in 1993. Won us our first senior trophy in 19 years as coach. Has Nigeria delivered the houses they promised the Eagles since 1994? That is how this "nation" rewards its heroes. Maradona led Argentina to a disastrous World Cup in 2010 but his people don't rubbish him for that. European players don't have to worry about bonuses because they know what they will earn long before they step on the field. Players in most European leagues get paid on a weekly basis without fail, even African players. Then they come home, play three matches and not a dime is still paid to them. Sorry, but they are no longer used to such shoddy administrative processes. Pride of the nation indeed. Only a shameless nation will owe it's workers for months on end without any scruples. Ask teachers, doctors and most public servants. Maybe they too should work for free? |
MegMich: Exactly my point!!! I still maintain that what ain't good for Mali and Togo will do us no good.Okay o! So, which coach do you know of that is 100% guaranteed to perform? By perform I'm assuming you mean win the World Cup, because if it is Nations Cup, that has already been done. |
mikeansy: Talking about KeshiBro, the question is why do African FA's allow for such scenarios in the first place? It wasn't only Nigeria, was it? Why is it difficult to give people what they are due? Why does the FA create room for such unnecessary distractions? Players go on the field to put their careers at risks and some officials are flexing with their family on tax payers money. Onazi injured an ankle. Babatunde broke a wrist. Echiejele missed out to injury, yet some peeps sit on their bonuses while enjoying a jamboree. The FA should be blamed, not the players. |
MegMich: My dear! Is it not obvious Keshi has under achived. Safe for the referee, we won't have made the round of 16.Guy you are funny o. do you know that the same Van Gaal coached Netherlands between 2000-2002 and failed to qualify them for the World Cup in South Korea/Japan 2002. He was also fired at Bayern Munich for coming 4th in the league, even though he won the league a season before. What of Mourinho, hasn't he been fired before even after winning the league back-to-back for Chelsea? So Keshi got fired after qualifying Togo for the World Cup? Big deal. He won the Nations Cup at the third attempt with his third team. That is not a strange thing. And then you talk about the referees decision against Bosnia like football is mathematics. Who says we still couldn't have won even if the goal counted? Besides, is it only Nigeria that got lucky with a wrong call at this World Cup? What about the calls that went against us? Did we not get a goal against Iran cancelled? Did they not cancel Emenike's debatable goal against France? Did you not see a clear penalty waved away when Osaze was been given a bear-hug in the six-yard box? Or you didn't witness the Onazi tackle that was a clear red card? You rep Naija from the comfort of your living room. You really are funny. Do you rep Naija more than Keshi who has served this country as player and coach and won us laurels as player and coach. I'd rather have Keshi's luck than Berti Vogts and Lars Lagerback's expertise. |
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Fulaman198: We were powerhouses in global football, what's wrong with wanting to go back to being such? You make some valid points, but we should never settle for low standards. Our only goal should be to win.I agree with you; the key word being "were". But we are not anymore and most times it takes time to get there, but Nigerians are not patient. Rather than address the fundamental issues, we sack coaches. Look at the countries you mentioned, only Italy have showed some consistency. Spain were known as perennial underachieves for many decades until they finally built a golden generation that ruled European and world football for about 6 years. England have not won any tournament since 1966 even with a better football system than we have. Compare the players you mentioned above with today's generation. They are not in the same league. These are players who were signed by clubs like Ajax, PSG, Borussia Dortmund, Juventus, AC Milan, Inter Milan, Barcelona, Chelsea and so on. Today what we have is CSKA Moscow, Dynamo Kiev, Fernabache, Rizaspur, Kiriaspor, and all sorts of "spors", Ashdod, etc. When was the last time a Nigerian player was signed by a big club? Maybe Victor Moses moving to Chelsea from Wigan? We need to address the real issues and stop sacking coaches. Siasia is a good coach who did well at U20 and the Olympics. Just one screw up and we fired him. Under Keshi, I have seen Nigeria play good football against teams like Uruguay, Italy, Argentina and France, even with these average players. Let's stop expecting to win every match and every tournament. Why not hire a coach and give him an 8-10 year blueprint. We want to win the World Cup in Qatar 2022 or at least make the semis. Then begin to plan. Scout for young players, let them progress from U-13 to senior level. Monitor them at club level. Mix and mash over a generation till you get the perfect blend. Let's develop a footballing philosophy or style we want to play and stick to it over a period of time. After all some people developed total football, tiki-taka and the likes I'm not particular about Keshi. I just know that sacking coaches in not the answer. It took Joachim Low 8 years and about four tournaments to finally win a trophy. |
Fulaman198: I agree with you wholeheartedly and I guess my biggest problem with Keshi is just his attitude and boastfulness, nothing else. We are taught to be humble and not boastful in Nigeria.Well, you really can't say that all Nigerians are humble. Coaches have their philosophies and style. Mourinho can also be boastful and crass when he chooses to be and always courts controversy. Alex Ferguson never backed down for any player no matter how good you were, sometimes to the detriment of the team. There was an Argentine coach who insisted that all his players must cut their hair short. He dropped Claudio Cannigia from his World Cup squad because the player refused to cut his hair. The Dutch goalis stuff is not new. Enyimba's Okey Emordie did the same thing when Enyimba won CAF Champions League. Enyeama keeps for the full game, then they substitute him for Dele Aiyenugba once penalties are looking likely and it always worked. |
Fulaman198: His problem is his attitude. If you can not see that, then no offence to you man you are very blinded. He is about 20% of the problem, the other 80% is the NFF. I am talking about present day. Iran's coach illustrated that no matter what calibre of players you have, you can do quite well. I can tell you right now that if Nigeria had Iran's coach, or some other true tactician, no matter how bad Nigeria's squad had been, Nigeria would have performed better.What did the same Iran coach, Carlos Quieroz achieve when he had better players in the Portugal team he coached? Iran achieved nothing at this World Cup other than park the bus. Is that the kind of football you want us to play? And as far as sitting is concerned, Aime Jacquet who coached France to win the World Cup in 98 rarely stood up from the bench. Joachim Loew yesterday sat through most of the game while Sabella stood almost throughout. Scolari was standing and barking instruction for the most of 90mins, yet Brazil still got annihilated by Holland. Keshi doesn't claim to be the best coach in the world, but Nigeria is also not a power-house in global football. Let's stop deluding ourselves that we are. |
Fulaman198: Keshi is part of the problem, I would say that our football started going downhill before 2008. Where were we in the 2006 World Cup? Also in 2002, we didn't get to the 2nd round.Sorry, I meant 1998. You say Keshi is part of the problem, but I say Keshi is just a victim of the system. What has the NFF contributed to making Keshi better than he is other than constantly looking for ways to discredit him so they can bring in their foreign coach? As you stated, where are the developmental programs to unearth and harness youth talents. We wonder why our players are not good at set-pieces? It's because you learn such technical skills at a young age, not when you are already 17. Folks here talk about Keshi's tactics, but your tactics are only as good as they players who will execute them. We lack quality players. Keshi has tried with the rag-tag team his has. |
Interesting. So Keshi is now the problem with Nigerian football. Since 1998 our football has gone downhill. We've won nothing but golden bronze at the Nations Cup for years and finally failed to even qualify for 2012 edition. We've failed to make it past the group stage at two World Cups and even failed to qualify for the 2006 edition, but of course Keshi is the problem with our football. After all, if not for Keshi's "tactical" ineptitude we would have won the World Cup instead of Germany. We've had coaches like Onigbinde, Chukwu, Eguaveon, Siasia and even "world class" coaches like Berti Vogts and Lars Largerback who all didn't achieve anything spectacular even when they had better teams, but lets blame Keshi for that too. Save for Enyeama, no Nigerian player can boast of being in the top 10-20 for their positions in global football. Most of them play in the back leagues of Ukraine, Russia, Israel, Belgium, Norway and so on. Those who play in the big leagues either warm the bench or play for mid-table teams, but that too is Keshi's fault. Since Okocha, I don't know of any Nigerian player who is the designated corner-kick or free-kick expert for their clubside, but let's blame Keshi for that too. KESHI please take a walk. Let NFF give Nigerians their "world class", "tactical" coach. Maybe Scolari, Del Bosque, or even Joachim Loew. They are all world Cup winners after all. |
Paroman: Same as me. I have used all sorts of drugs and herbs, yet nothing seems to be working.Contrary to popular belief, sugar is not exactly a causative of pile. Even this write-up by the OP did not mention sugar. Just change your diet to start with. Eat more whole wheat and grains. Take lots of fruits and vegetable that will help to soften your stool and give you freer bowel movement. Bananas and oranges are very good to take. |
BadBoy25: may the German plane crash on their way back .U get sense at all? Can you wish that for any of your own loved ones? Ewu. |
I think Robben should have been MVP. Messi fizzled out after the first round in my opinion. |
GentleMimi: Lol! I knew it was gonna be tough! Both teams are strong and well organized.But Messi no gree cry o! See as him eye just dry. Maradona be like "Messi who? I'm the greatest boy" |
supereagle: I dey watch for NL. I no block anything. Go away boy.Lol! ![]() Where is my Safarigirl by the way? |
Yes!!! CHAMPIONS GERMANY! Messi come back in four years. ![]() |
supereagle: As I left the viewing centre , a goal is scored.So na your bad luck dey block the goal since. Go sleep jor. |
Yee! Make this rain no go off my gen o! Make I carry umbrella go cover am. Goal! Germany! |
Yee! Make this rain no go off my gen o! Make I carry umbrella go cover am. |
I swear I can slap this Schurlle! Ewu! |
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too bad i only learnt about them in school and never witnessed it. It behooves the present stock of leaders we have today to give we the young generation a taste of the goodlife they enjoyed back in their days. My dad use to tell me how back in the days University Students were fed by an FG welfare Scheme in most Universities in Nigeria... Today it's all tales... Nigeria shall regain her lost glory again! 

What of VanGaal, Sabella, not to talk of Mourinho who has performed consistently!
and it's not as if I take sugar that much.