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Uyi168:
..Buh humans have been fighting wars even b4 ur jesus was born..whats the fuss abt war all abt?

yes o tell dem, because we had atomic bombs, missiles, guns, nerve gas to fight a more deadly war back then. what's the fuss all about

Deicide:
So basically you are saying not everyone is equal even in heaven? And again can you explain what this work is?

I think (me) that those who engage in soul winning will be higher than those believers who don't, and since Lucifer the brightest angel was sent out that means angels can get their ranks reduced, which means that other angels can occupy it

Deicide:
Base on how the religion take men to be above women and also treating some people more "special" than others eg saint?

I don't think the Bible supports those but not everyone is equal in terms of class, some people can work their way up to high places in heaven others e.g Lucifer and his angels can work their way down to qualify for the lowest places in hell, Jesus himself said "Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he."
Matthew:11:11

babasolution:
how do u know if we would have not been better off now,without the whitemans God??,we cant know because the whites took over,so u can judge how our level of development,would have been,who knows if we would have been better off??,the mistake many people make is the thinking that technology means better quality of life,many Africa would have had a different kind of civilization that would hav made Africa a better continent,but the whites imposed their ways on us and we can only judge progress based on level of westernerzition now

you guys and this you're whiteman God for the umpteenth time Jesus is not a Whiteman

sekeyso:
You're mixing praying in tongues and speaking in tongues. They are two different things, while speaking in tongues requires interpretation praying in tongues does not need any interpretation.

Well the topic is 'First time you spoke in a new tongue'
can you pray without speaking?

Define equal right, do you mean class equality?

Nollywood is turning into Hollywood

bingbagbo:
why interpret? that i s when you prophecy in tongue, in a congregation...that is when you have to interpret not when you are speaking directly to God via prayer. Why must i interpret my prayer to God for another man?

That's what the Bible says, that chapter also differentiates between prophecies and tongues I think you should read that chapter

"He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church."
1 Corinthians:14:4

"For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful."
1 Corinthians:14:14

bingbagbo:
it was an Apostle that wrote this .....1 Corinthians 14:2 - For he that speaketh in an [unknown] tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth [him]; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.



read your bible, and dont harden your heart

I think you need to read that chapter to the end

"So likewise ye, except ye utter by the tongue words easy to be understood, how shall it be known what is spoken? for ye shall speak into the air."
1 Corinthians:14:9


"Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue pray that he may interpret."
1 Corinthians:14:13

Jochabed:
No one.

I'm glad you admitted no one understood you, can you give me one scenario in the Bible where the apostles spoke in tongues and no one understood?

Jochabed:
Speaking in tongues is something else,you feel as tough you now communicate with God on a much more deeper level.

how many people understood you?

So you're the magician that realized it now? The yorubas back then didn't complain

killsmith:
Simple.

The Bible is a tool the whiteman used for their social engineering.

The whiteman gave us the Bible to wipe off our history, brainwash us and disconnect us from our root.

That is why you see black people claiming "children of Israel".

How can the blacks be descendants of Israel when the black race is the oldest race on earth?....


Wake up black people.
Christianity is a scam.

The Jews are not white

enilove:
The God Almighty should be able to show Himself as the Almighty . It would be an insult for Satan and his demons to do extraordinary things in form of signs , miracles and wonders and the Almighty will be looking .

If Muhammad did not make claim that the God of the Jews and Christians is Allah , no one will be bothered or I won't be bothered .
Right from the time God called Abraham , He has been showing Himself to be a miracle working God.

God told Abraham that He will perform a wonder that would make everyone to know He is the Almighty the Creator of everything , thereby leading people to Him.

God performed miracles in the lives of Abraham, Moses , Elijah, Jesus Christ etc. which no other gods can do .
When the people asked Muhammad , he just gave a funny answer as excuse.

I believe the God of the Israelites not the powerless Arab god.

It is only God that created the sea that can give it His command and it will obey:

Exodus 14:21-22 KJV
And Moses stretched out his hand over the sea; and the Lord caused the sea to go back by a strong east wind all that night, and made the sea dry land , and the waters were divided.
[22] And the children of Israel went into the midst of the sea upon the dry ground : and the waters were a wall unto them on their right hand, and on their left.

Matthew 8:24-27 KJV
And, behold, there arose a great tempest in the sea, insomuch that the ship was covered with the waves: but he was asleep. [25] And his disciples came to him , and awoke him, saying, Lord, save us: we perish.
[26] And he saith unto them, Why are ye fearful, O ye of little faith? Then he arose, and rebuked the winds and the sea; and there was a great calm.
[27] But the men marvelled, saying, What manner of man is this, that even the winds and the sea obey him!

Muhammad himself testified that :
Volume 9, Book 92, Number 379:

Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Prophet said, "There was no prophet among the prophets but was given miracles because of which people had security or had belief, but what I was given was the Divine Inspiration which Allah revealed to me. So I hope that my followers will be more than those of any other prophet on the Day of Resurrection."

And those things he called Divine inspirations were nothing but satanic inspirations .

Will the Antichrist/false prophets perform miracles?

Well op according to you're post, the man isn't asking God why if he isn't neither should you

If the Sun is god, there are how many suns in the universe? Or did you think it was one?
The sun is not god the sun was created by God

Question for Nigeria police, where did they get their guns from?

Peacefullove:
oh!

The soul ( Real person ) cannot die , Does that not prove Real person called Jesus did not die for anyone ?

When Jesus died his soul descended into a place called Abraham bosom to take Abraham and the old testament believers to heaven

Peacefullove:
Do you understand what you typed at bolded, Contradicting yourself in the same statement ?

Sir, Did Jesus died or only his body ?

we all know the soul cannot die

Peacefullove:
Sir, are you telling me if a man dies .. the whole of him dies NOT just ordinary body ?

now you're twisting my words you're point was that if Jesus didn't die where is his sacrifice and I'm saying he did die to say only the body not that his body died and his soul resurrected, Jesus body resurrected with his soul

Peacefullove:
Okay you mean the Real person called Jesus died , not just ordinary body ?

yes

Jesus died, was buried and he resurrected, in the old testament people kill lamb, calfs, animals to cleanse them they had to do it repeatedly but only the Blood of Jesus Christ can redeem someone permanently.

I wonder if this op is being sarcastic you're concluding paragraph, Islam removes a negative and bad impression about God Seriously?

salvation101:
still not true... So if i act like an American, does dat make me an American? Society may constrain a man to act as who he is not.. There are atheists in Islamic countries who just av to blend with society. Same way there are alot of ppl born into religious homes who had to pretend to be who dey were not..

what's the point of pretending? how will people know you're an atheis? how will it change the confused deluded theist? Will the Muslims be where they are today if they pretended in order to blend? Honestly action speaks louder than words if atheist act like theist then they shouldn't bother complaining about religion, it's hypocrisy

salvation101:
nope.. Atheist are simply those who do not believe that their is God as opposed to Theist.. Even an idolater is not an Atheist cos he believes there is a God somewhere.

If a man says deep in his heart dat there is no God but acts as though he is religious, dat man is still an Atheist.. It takes d inner conviction in d existence of God to be a Theist

You've heard the saying "action speak louder than words".if he acts like a theist he is a theist

johnydon22:




Just when i thought he is getting it, he drags me back to square one again... Mother of God!

Refer to my post above again

okay you've made you're point clear but the God the father, son and holy spirit are one there that's the Trinity, they don't exist individually even though they are different

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Well we are discussing the implications of this analogy not whether i believe it or not... The point is, that three particles comes together to make one particle doesnt mean that separately they are the same particle.

applicable to your Godhood theory[/quote]yep separately they are different, but they are never separate, okay let me use a different similar angle talk about Time it's made up of what? the past, present and future, now you're trying to say that the past singularly isn't part of time it's something separate, you can't take the past out of time

He was a Christian "And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice."
Genesis:22:18. The word is 'seed' not 'seeds' many, Abraham believed in the coming of Jesus Christ who was the seed.

I think it's absurd to say he was a Muslim since Islam is nothing more than repackaged Judaism

johnydon22:
You don't even understand the logic in your own analogy... Lmao

no you're trying to say a proton isn't part of the Atom if it's part then it's an atom too, you're trying to find pointless contradictions here, i gave the op a perfect description if you believe three particles can coexist as one tiny particle why can't you believe the Trinity, I have other descriptions if you like

The simple fact that most of his supporters here on nairaland aren't Christians says a lot about him

urahara:
So that means the members of the Trinity are one -third god.

don't understand you're question