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GRIMMJOE:
That's not correct

hoopernikao:
Should we discussed this further and you won't start calling me names again and avoid discussion afterwards. If you do, I still have outstanding questions you haven't answered.

Secondly, I have seen great assumptions among you and your colleagues claiming I defend Trinity. for your record, check through all my post not just here but on Nairaland generally, and point to where I had a discussion Trinity. I have constantly mentioned to you all that my argument with you is not about Trinity for now but cases that can lead to it.

The fact that you wanted to proved a point isnt allowing you to read between the lines. Exposing your mistakes is not the same as supporting your enemies stand. You must always read details and carefully.

Do I believe in Trinity, YES. Have I ever defend or discuss it on Nairaland? You may have to check to prove me wrong. The closest thing I have ever said on trinity is that it is a concept of salvation rather than creation. That is the closest said about my stand on Trinity. This was made over 6-7 months on one Reno said..... Thread. I am definite in all I do and it can be traceable. In due time that will be discussed.

So, I may not support some opinions or have the same stand view of Trinity with those who believe in it, but I definitely believe in it both scripturally, historically and personally.

GRIMMJOE:
But you haven't answered what is the intent of religion, what is the intent to reveal God through Christ. is that the intent of Jehovah witness? you can just say yes or no.

Since you don't know the intent of Muslims, what makes you think your religion intent is the right one, when you haven't even explored the intent of Muslim religion.

And if you don't need to know the intent of Muslim to conclude the religion is inexistent, then why do any one need to know the intent of your religion to know it's inexistent.

We haven't even talked about the intent of Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism, and even Atheism.

hoopernikao:
Should we discussed this further and you won't start calling me names again and avoid discussion afterwards. If you do, I still have outstanding questions you haven't answered.

Secondly, I have seen great assumptions among you and your colleagues claiming I defend Trinity. for your record, check through all my post not just here but on Nairaland generally, and point to where I had a discussion Trinity. I have constantly mentioned to you all that my argument with you is not about Trinity for now but cases that can lead to it.

The fact that you wanted to proved a point isnt allowing you to read between the lines. Exposing your mistakes is not the same as supporting your enemies stand. You must always read details and carefully.

Do I believe in Trinity, YES. Have I ever defend or discuss it on Nairaland? You may have to check to prove me wrong. The closest thing I have ever said on trinity is that it is a concept of salvation rather than creation. That is the closest said about my stand on Trinity. This was made over 6-7 months on one Reno said..... Thread. I am definite in all I do and it can be traceable. In due time that will be discussed.

So, I may not support some opinions or have the same stand view of Trinity with those who believe in it, but I definitely believe in it both scripturally, historically and personally.

hoopernikao:
Should we discussed this further and you won't start calling me names again and avoid discussion afterwards. If you do, I still have outstanding questions you haven't answered.

Secondly, I have seen great assumptions among you and your colleagues claiming I defend Trinity. for your record, check through all my post not just here but on Nairaland generally, and point to where I had a discussion Trinity. I have constantly mentioned to you all that my argument with you is not about Trinity for now but cases that can lead to it.

The fact that you wanted to proved a point isnt allowing you to read between the lines. Exposing your mistakes is not the same as supporting your enemies stand. You must always read details and carefully.

Do I believe in Trinity, YES. Have I ever defend or discuss it on Nairaland? You may have to check to prove me wrong. The closest thing I have ever said on trinity is that it is a concept of salvation rather than creation. This was made over 6-7 months on one Reno said..... Thread. I am definite in all I do and it can be traceable. In due time that will be discussed.

So, I may not support some opinions or have the same stand view of Trinity with those who believe in it, but I definitely believe in it both scripturally, historically and personally.

GRIMMJOE:
DappaD can you tell us the intent of religion, do you agree with hoopernikao

hoopernikao:
Christianity reveals God and the scriptures is to help do the same via its teachings. It's primary intent is to reveal God through Christ.

So, what is your own intent now. I want your present path.

GRIMMJOE:
This are the half Atheist, half Christians

Maximus69
DappaD
Hoopernikao
TATIME
and a wanna half Atheist, Rozz

Now that the battle field is set, begin.

GRIMMJOE:
That's because JW don't completely believe in the Bible hence Half Atheist. Things like lying is not a sin, casual sex is not a sin but offense, hell is not real, and so on.

While full Atheist don't believe in the entire Bible, get?

Myer:
Be patient, I will painstakingly open a thread on this.
But let me whet your appetite with this question;

What is God's stance on Righteousness in the bible?

Maximus69:
He's an atheist in DISGUISE!

What else do you expect from Satan's agents?

GRIMMJOE:
Here are the types.

Christians = Non Atheist
JW = Half Atheist
no God = full Atheist

Some jump from Christian to Atheist, some takes time so they're stuck at half Atheist.

GRIMMJOE:
JW = Atheist

Myer:
I guess I will have to open a thread for Bible contradictions cos it would only further derail this thread. Until then google is your best friend.

Myer:
I guess I will have to open a thread for Bible contradictions cos it would only further derail this thread. Until then google is your best friend.

GRIMMJOE:
more like Half Atheist, but I get your point.

Maximus69:
Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, brother DappaD!

You want to disturb the sleeping dog!

Well let me clarify issues here.

Myer is a disguised atheist, all he wants is for all religions to agree with him that whatever they believe is based on delusion. But out of all the religions he has been dealing with, only JWs are the group that stood unshakable with their faith so he's not feeling comfortable having them around, because when others surrender to abandon their ungrounded faith, the JWs stand will make a difference and that's a defeat to Satan's craftiness!

sonmvayina:
See, we are going round in circles... Job 1:20-21


https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/361889/jewish/Reincarnation.htm

Myer:
That's where comprehension and cognition comes to play. I can't teach you that.

But that the bible says one thing in a verse and contradicts it in another verse can't be denied.

sonmvayina:
Talking about reincarnation... Stay on topic

sonmvayina:
What does the bible really hold?.. [s]Do you know how many writings was taken out and others added that are not supposed to be there..[/s]

[s]Don't you know the Bible plagiarised from other earlier works like the metu neter, the enuma Elish.. Etc[/s]

Job 1:20-21

Rozz:
I'm still waiting for that intelligent you will say,like I said earlier Trinity doesn't sound intelligent to me anymore.Go out and seek true knowledge about God.

GRIMMJOE:
Hope you're aware this is just your opinion, and here's

GRIMMJOE:
Will you let a 5 years old girl get raped, if you're God.

Not religious incompetence but God.

GRIMMJOE:
Selling JW as the shít again.

TATIME:
He can sense from my post but he only wanted to confirm it, my question "are you my brother?" goes a long way in the mind of any JW throughout the earth!
Notice his response!
Even if it's just a month that you stop attending our meetings, you can't meet up with the Organization again, so DappaD is surely my brother in Jesus!

Rozz:
so you people even have ranks

Maximus69:
Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

Oòdáyànmò!

Tatime is my mentor on Nairaland!
But because he's now a ministerial servant he has not been featuring as he used to when i first knew him on Nairaland!

GRIMMJOE:
No I'm not, but I don't bother to explain this, as people like Maximus don't have sense, you tell him something he ears another thing.

Just see how focus he was on defend the wealth of JW, wealth that they'll leave behind when they die.

TATIME:
Haaaa!
Do not think like that!
Most of us felt the same way before joining the Organization {Luke 18:26} we thought being a JW is something impossible for us but on getting inside we discovered that there are individuals that we are even better of when talking about uprightness. 1Corinthians 6:9-11
Yet they refused to leave, trying all their effort to meet the standard. Luke 13:24
One thing i have come to learn among JWs is that the organization is like a place where bright lights are everywhere, so if your robe is dirty (spiritually speaking) you will fear coming closer {John 3:19} but if you're willing to be clean {Luke 5:12-13} nothing can stop you from coming to a place where you can see clearly the dirt in you so as to wash your robes and make it clean! Revelations 7:14

DappaD:
The spirit at Ecclesiastes 12:7 represents a life-force, it is impersonal. At death, a person's thoughts perishes, i.e. the person ceases to exist(Ecclesiastes 9:5,6,10)

So speaking about man’s death, Ecclesiastes 12:7 states: “The dust [of his body] returns to the earth, just as it was, and the spirit returns to the true God who gave it.” When the spirit, or life-force, leaves the body, the body dies and returns to where it came from​—the earth.

Remember when God created the first man Adam, He[Jehovah God] “went on to form man out of dust from the ground and to blow into his nostrils the breath of life and the man became a living person”(Genesis 2:7) The breath of life is an abstract term since it has no personality. And notice when Adam and Eve sinned, God said they would “...return to the ground,for out of it [they] were taken. For dust you are and to dust you will return.” (Genesis 3:19)
Did God tell them that they would keep living somewhere else as spirits? Or that they would become spirit beings in heaven? NO
He said “to dust [they] will return” and it would be like they never existed.

So coming back to Ecclesiastes 12:7, the life-force returns to where it came from​—God. (Job 34:14, 15; Psalm 36:9) This does not mean that the life-force actually travels to heaven. Rather, it means that for someone who dies, any hope of future life rests with Jehovah God. His life is in God’s hands, so to speak. Only by God’s power can the spirit, or life-force, be given back so that a person may live again.

sonmvayina:
Life is a circle.. Not a straight line. Birth brings you from the spiritual realm to the physical and death takes you from the physical back to the spiritual realm... And it continues till your spirit attains perfection.. And it becomes like God..