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Edeyoung:
They keep circulating this ogedegbe shit of an history just because he invaded some part of edo
State with that alone they are happy circulating it,

Ogendegbe came to edo state, the auchi areas in search of slaves, words getting to benin on his raids, an esan warrior was dispatch to stop him,
He was driven out by the esan warrior, from edo north, he later returned to his hometown were he was captured by the British force


That is the original history of ogendegbe in edo, the begging ish, na maggi from yorubas to spice his history against benins for their egoistic reasons


The question is , what would they have appeased him with that if he had conquered he wont get a 10x fold

abbey621:
None of them gives a flip about black people but this election is mainly about the Covid 19 response and this is why Trump will lose.

Onijagidijagan:
Uselu used to be a Yoruba settlement in Benin

Onijagidijagan:
Then what is "Akoko" doing in the name?

Onijagidijagan:
Their origin was traced to Yorubas in Edos go and learn history.

Onijagidijagan:
Non of our land is controlled by any Edo...since your 3 million are warriors you can come and cross boundary now...then you will no chestbeating nor b for mouth

Bini and Esan are not threat to us at all

Onijagidijagan:
Mention a single Yoruba land that is being controlled by the Edos?from your write ups?

Onijagidijagan:
Nairaland forum u r using was Bini man that programmed it now

More than 20% of Edo population from Akoko edos to Bini and Esan bears Yoruba names. These Yoruba names must be Igodomigodo names like u believe..omutin

Go to anywhere or parts of Yoruba land from Kogi, Kwara, Niger, Lagos, Osun, Oyo, Ondo, Ekiti, Ogun and republic of Benin Yorubas to spill that rubbish from your maggot infested mouths that "Oba came from Benin" you will only ended up being beaten like a drum and no single Yoruba, Igala, Itsekiris will even subscribe to that.

Slawormir:
Damnnn niggarrr
Too bad...
We are getting there already

If endsars don't work..then we will change it to killsars

BornSnner9:
Ok

Lagos no be Edo.. Edo no be Lagos..

I dedicate this FTC to all Edo people on their victory

TAO11:
Lol.

The immediate past Oba of Benin was the 38th King.

However, his successor the current Oba is the 40th.
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They’re so drunk with confusion that they can’t agree till date on who their first Oba is.

The extant standard position is that Oranmiyan installed his son as the first Oba of Benin — this agrees with extant Yoruba account.

However, some fringe views among them (which the current Oba holds to) list Oranmiyan himself as the first Oba of Benin.

I guess the aim of this minority view is so that they can rank Omo n’Oba before Alaafin.

Remember Oranmiyan went to Benin before he became the first Alaafin.

So, the propaganda is to say that while he was in Benin he was coronated as Oba — by so doing, they will argue that Omo n’Oba ranks before Alaafin.

However, the reality is that while Oranmiyan was in Benin he wasn’t coronated as Oba and in fact endured some resistance from a party of their elders — this position is the extant Yoruba and Benin account.

So, while he was away as Alaafin at Oyo, his little child Eweka who will later became the first coronated Oba of Benin was still a baby.

I hope this is clear.

lx3as:
Alaafin is always invited from the West but due to Oòni being recognised ahead of him by federal government as co-chairman with sultan, he doesn't go to such occasions.

You can go and challenge Oòni's position in a law court if you're so pained. Don't you find your oba far far back in the picture.

TAO11:
Yes and so does several Bini accounts.

And my questions remain forever?:

(1) Who was the father of Eweka according to extant Bini accounts?

(2) Who was the first Oba of Benin?

Please don’t be too eager to call your Oba (and his ancestors) fools!

gregyboy:
1. Oba of Benin
Some say that the Oba of Benin, or Omo N’Oba, is the highest traditional ruler in Nigeria as he wields influence over the Edo people and is a popular figure in Nigeria. He heads the historic Eweka dynasty of the Great Benin Empire. It is also said that the Yorubas in Nigeria descended from the Benin people, hence the tittle Oba is being used to mean a king. The title of Oba was first created by Oba Eweka I, Benin Empire’s first ‘Oba’, who ascended power between 1180 and 1300. His son, grandson and now his great-grandson, Ewuare II were traditional rulers of Benin in modern-day Nigeria.it is to be noted that The oba benin would not be totally regarde as a Yoruba oba from historical viewpoints, but due to the fact that oba of benin for political reasons in the past regarded himself as one, on the bases of Diplomacy and friendship we have no choice than to honour it and regard him as one, the oba of benin rule extended to the present ogun state, lagos, ekiti oyo, osun and ondo tho much of his influence were minimum in some states lije oyo, osun and ogun but that would not be true for the others oba ghat to kpere ise......


2. Ooni of Ife

The Ooni of Ife is the most powerful king in Yoruba land. The current Ooni of Ife is Oba Adeyeye Enitan Ogunwusi . According to the Alake of Egbaland, the Ooni is the first of the five principal Obas in Yorubaland just like the Sultan of Sokoto is the highest ruler in the northern part of Nigeria. This is because his supremacy dates back to the origin of the Yoruba tribe. He is also one of the most influential figures in Nigeria and he recently married Queen Morenike Naomi Oluwaseyi, a prophetess.


3. Alaafin of Oyo
He is the second in line in the ranking of Yoruba monarchs in Nigeria, Lamidi Olayiwola Adeyemi III was born 15 August 1938 and he is the current Alaafin, or traditional ruler, of the Yoruba state of Oyo and righful heir to the throne of its historic empire. His dynasty dates back to the old Oyo empire which recognizes him as the emperor of the Oyo empire. He is among the list of the richest Yoruba king in Nigeria


.4. Alake of Egbaland
Fourth on the list of ranking of obas in Yorubaland is the Alake of Egbaland . He is the paramount Yoruba king of Egba, a city in Abeokuta, Ogun State, southwestern Nigeria. Egba consists of Egba Alake, Owu kingdom rule by the Olowu of Owu Kingdom, Oke-Ona and Gbagura. He was the one who cleared the air concerning how the monarchs in Yoruba land should be ranked starting from the Ooni of Ife to the Awujale of Ijebuland.


5. Awujale of Ijebuland
He is the least on the list of 5 powerful obas in Yoruba land. His kingdom, Ijebu (also known as Jebu or Geebu) was a Yoruba kingdom in pre-colonial Nigeria. It was formed around the fifteenth century. According to legend, its ruling dynasty was founded by Obanta of Ile-Ife. The current Awujale of Ijebuland is Sikiru Kayode Adetona.

There is a recent tussle as to who is superior between the Oba of Lagos and the Ooni of ife (Yoruba Emperor). This should not be so as history backs the Ooni as the most superior paramount ruler of the Yoruba speaking people.


Credit: NigeriaInfopedia 2020 update


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adelaja70:
Wetin dey worry this fool... Do i know you? My Aunty was the HEAD of service during igbinedion administration. My late uncle Chief Osunde was a high Chief in Benin while my late dad chief Afe was the sales manager of the then Bendel brewery. You dey craze? Who be una mates...

adelaja70:
YOU ARE INSANE... We are talking about Akure and Benin you dey carry carry Lagos enter.... My states are ONDO AND EDO. Oya slaughter yourself

adelaja70:
I just weak for the guy o. So he wants me to deny my family to please him, it will never happen. I repeat we are partly Yoruba and Benin... And we are very proud of it.

BabaRamota1980:
Edo has no clothing or weaving civilization. There is nothing in history of Edo that said you were a clothed people. In contrast there are historical accounts of Edo being a nayked slave stock.
Benin came from a foreign civilization that had garment arts in different forms and styles.

Have you ever wondered why historians prior to 1850 never mentioned Edo when describing nobility of Benin?

In many narratives and accounts historians will distinguish between two societies and say the Benins and the natives or the Benins and indigenes. Is Benin non-native? Is Benin non-indigene?

TAO12:
Oh sorry. What a pity! I understand that you would need more than one brain-cell to “see anything else here”. So, I would break it down to you as usual.

Now compare the reactions of the following two groups of people — how each of them was reported to have reacted to being seen na.ked:

(1) A bunch of uncivilized Edo women who are used to roaming the streets stark nak.ed because they consider cloths to be the luxurious possession of the affluent and the older folks:

“... So you can see there, WOMEN of TWENTY and TWENTY-FIVE YEARS going along the streets perfectly nude without showing any shame."

Reference: H.Ling Roth, “Great Benin, Its Customs, Art and Horrors”, F. King & Sons Ltd., (1903), p.24.
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(2) A group of civilized regular Yoruba girls who are naturally ashamed of being seen nak.ed because they are used to clothing, as it is a normal part Yoruba life:

“... We stood for a season gazing on them with pleasure; but no sooner were our white faces observed by the young ladies, than their amusements instantly ceased, and the sable beauties simultaneously rushing from the water, snatched up their apparel, and with their uncovered associates, concealing their faces with their hands, ran away and hid themselves behind the trunk of trees, looking as coy and bashful as did their mother Eve in the Garden of Eden.”

Reference: Richard Lander’s 1826 account quoted in Drewal et al.: Yoruba: Nine Centuries of African Art and Thought, 1.
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A Very Important Note: The above account regarding the (20/25 years old) Edo women relates to as recent as the year 1903.

While on the other hand, the account of R. Lander regarding the Yoruba girls was from the year 1826.
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On what basis, joker? A standardized objective basis such as beauty pageant suggests otherwise though. Lol.


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Obalufon:
we clothed your forefathers, i can show you pictures as prove how savage your people were .. wool clothing in your jungle you are slow brained man .Retard ,maybe raffia clothing you mean ..Aso Oke Savannah region cloth .. Cotton is grown in Savannah region

TAO11:
Consider the following description of an interesting scene of some Yoruba girls near Oyo-Ile in January 1826. Lander wrote:

“At noon we descended into a delightful valley, situated in the bottom of a ridge of rocks, which effectually hid it from observation till one approached almost close to it. It was intersected with shimmering streams and purling rills, the elegant palm, and the broad leaved banana, covered with foliage, embellishing the sheltered and beautifully romantic spot. In the center was a sheet of water, resembling an artificial pond, in which were numbers of young maidens from the neighboring town of Tschow, some of them reposing at full length on its verdant banks, and some frisking and basking in the sunbeams, whilst others of their companions were sporting with the Naiads [sic] of the sacred stream; but all of them were visibly delighted with the pleasant recreations which they were enjoying so prettily and innocently. We stood for a season gazing on them with pleasure; but no sooner were our white faces observed by the young ladies, than their amusements instantly ceased, and the sable beauties simultaneously rushing from the water, snatched up their apparel, and with their uncovered associates, concealing their faces with their hands, ran away and hid themselves behind the trunk of trees, looking as coy and bashful as did their mother Eve in the Garden of Eden.”

Reference: Richard Lander’s account quoted in Drewal et al.: Yoruba: Nine Centuries of African Art and Thought, 1.

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googi:
Show proof that the appellation or ORIKI is wrong.

gregyboy:
When you read something like that post it for easy accessibility for many who are doing resese and post the link too, dont just read and go, for people who are doing research would make things easier for them
The last time i debated TAO11 on benin sewing clothes i lost because i didn't have articles to back it up,

BlindedIrony:
Damn! They just had to have a professional black disgraced herself. Just look at how the other doctors stood silently and watched as their black colleague ranted on like a clueless idiot. She may be a doctor, but her practice is obviously limited since she has no idea what is going on. What do you expect from a Nigerian-trained doctor that moved to the US??

What an incompetent brat! This is why we have 4,000,000 damn infected Americans. And, we are still counting our losses. Y'all are not making our jobs around the world easy with this nonsense.

One of my girlfriend's friends caught the corona. She is dying. Just last week, we had a video call with her. She is confined in her house with oxygen tanks. She CANNOT breathe without artificial respiration. Her sons had to go away, so they cannot get it. Also, I know a woman that used to deliver food to us at the hospital. She got corona and she died within a week! Her husband was not even allowed to see her due to a high risk of infection.

For the so-called illiterate experts that are out there- people who think they know it all because of an out-dated medical education, hydroxychloroquine CANNOT kill a virus. IT IS MEANT FOR THE PROTIST GROUP. A protist is a microscopic organism that can cause a disease when it invades the body. A notable example is Plasmodium- which is responsible for MALARIA. Plasmodium is a parasite. It is its biological byproduct that causes malaria. Unlike plasmodium, a virus is NOT AN ORGANISM. It is a strand of RNA or DNA wrapped in a protein shealth.

What does it mean?

It means that once a virus finds its way to your body. Its outer protein coat has spikes that are codes. If its code matches the cellular code, your cells are tricked into accepting it thinking it is one of them. Once the virus goes into your cells, it tries to use your cell's chromosomes to replicate exact copies of itself. It will keep doing this, until your cells cannot hold it anymore. So your cells lyse themselves due to pressure to release the virus- meaning they burst. A notable example is the mouth sores (Herpes Virus). This is why cold sores are very infectious. It happens all the time too for infected people!

Now, malaria drugs are ineffective against viruses. This is because viruses cannot be knocked out by anti-malarial drugs, so that the virus can be eaten by your own body soldiers (white blood cells like phagocytes, T-Cells and B-Cells and Macrophages). A virus is a genetic code that becomes active inside your body. So why exactly are you looking to knock out with Malaria drugs and zinc??

The reason why anti-malaria works against Plasmodium is because they either numb them for the white blood cells to attack overwhelmingly, or they kill Plasmodium. Either way, Plasmodium will not be able to use its enzymes to get into cells in order to feed. Compare to Plasmodium, viruses are so small that Plasmodium will not even see them , if they lived in a world together!

I am angry that they had this black doctor say these things, when everyone in second year medical school knows that there are ONLY TWO ways of killing viruses in the body. First, viruses are killed in the body through vaccines(an antigen containing weak viruses) injected into the body. When the white blood cells see them, they can attack them successfully. When the virus are eaten, the phagocytes will regurgitate pieces of the virus to the B-Cells and T-Cells. These cells store the bits of the virus, so they can learn to recognize the virus entry again. And, use the strategy the phagocytes used for successful viral elimination. If you do not believe me, ready any advanced medical microbiology textbook or GOOGLE. The second way of killing virus is to stop their cycles. Viruses have cycles. From cell entry to cell lysis. Once anti-viral medication messes up one of the cycles, a whole generation can be wiped off due their inability to continue the cycles. The second way does not always work, because some viruses can recode their protein shells to match the cells. So, your white bloods cannot see them in the blood stream because they blend as body cells and white blood cells only attack foreign antigens (except in extremely rare cases like cancer and others). Also, anti-viral medication cannot work because the viruses are so smaller than cells that they can hide in your cell nucleus. There is no way a drug can reach them or even white blood cells. White blood cells do not even go into cells to attack! They have to get the virus before it goes into the cells. Sometimes, a cell has to die early by bursting to send invasion signals to other cells who will create little gaps for white bloods to get in and attack whatever was released.

Besides this, anti-viral medications rarely attack the strong protein coat of viruses. That is why cold sores, hepatitis A B C , HPV, HIV and others do not have anti-viral cure. Rather Hepatitis and HPV have some sorta vaccines to introduce weak viruses that your body can take care of and store the memory of attack for next viral invasion.

Anyways, enough of microbiology.

Now, it takes a fool to say COVID is not real. It is as real as you. And, it has come to stay like HIV and others. Remember HIV killed millions during its early stages until it was regulated? Still no cure today. There are actually no viral cure. Only vaccines help boost our body soldiers- the white blood cells. That is why HIV first kills off your white blood cells, before cell entry. So, protect yourself. Wear masks. Just because a person is a doctor does not mean they have all the answers. Medical doctors ARE NOT research scientists. If scientists say to wash hands regularly, wear mask and stay six feet, just shut your trap and do it. Stop being selfish. Stop spreading fake news with no evidence. And Good God, stop being an instrument of mass infection!

It is as simple as that. Geez!

Igboid:
What are you on about.
You don't want Igbos in the East to beat together with their kin and kiths in Delta, because you want them for yourself? Are you listening to yourself? Why can't you be content with you fellow Edo people? Can you communicate with an Anioma person without using English? Or you intend making them learn your Bini language to recreate your empire again?

Dennis Osadebay was an active member of Igbo State Union. Uwaechue Ralph from Anioma was the president of Ohanaeze Ndiigbo for eight years.
Hon. Ebigwe is a high ranking member of Ohanaeze Ndiigbo now and he is from Anioma.

Obaseki is Anioma, so? He went to Bini and threw away his Igbo language and assimilated as a Bini person, does that now mean that Anioma should become one with Bini and throw away kinship with their Igbo speaking kins in the East.

An Igbo man is currently a senator in Italy and hold Italian citizenship. He even supports the racist Italian government. does it now mean that Igbos are one with Italians when we can't both communicate using our mother tongue?

Not everyone in SE is pro seccession, so leave secession out of it for now.
My point is that Igbo exists on both sides of River Niger.
And no matter all the odds stacked up against Igbo unity, encouraged by the likes of Edo, Ijaw and Igala who are looking to capitalize on current weak political state of the Igbo in Nigeria to annex Igbo speaking groups, we will prevail in the end.
Because in the end, birds of same feathers will always stick together.

Igboid:
There is not a single community in SE speaking an Edoid language.

What we have are some communities in SE who are Igbo speaking but with delusional and irrational stories of migrations from Bini.

Additionally, Igbanke are not settlers in those lands. They just had their land carved into Edo state instead of Delta state like the rest of Igbo speaking communities in the old Asaba division, because they were always scared of Agbor domination and chose to pitch their tent with Edo.
Additionally, Ogbemudia who is Bini but whose mother was Igbanke also played a big role in Igbanke being carved into Edo state instead of Delta like the rest of the Ika speaking groups.

AreaFada2:
Abeg nor kee person with laughter jor.

Nigeria is not working. So if Biafra wanna go, fine. If they stay fine too.

But River Niger is the natural boundary. No Inch of the 6 South South States will join them.

TheGodlessGod:
you're right I don't really like Edo been in the so called Niger Delta republic.

What about Esan and other Edo north ethnic groups

TheGodlessGod:
This question is for only Edo people.

We've been hearing about igbos and their quest to have their own country, they went to war in 1967 because of it..

They are claiming part of our territory even in Edo state as their own(igbanke). While some are even claiming our allies in Delta State (urhobo, itskerri).

Most of them don't want Edo people in their country (which I love) but they want to take some of our territory along with them.

What do you think about biafra?? Do you support them?

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IDENNAA:
As rightly pointed out by my forebears, many things written in that Olauda's book are not quite accurate because facts on the ground shows on the contrary. Show us remnants of Bini rule in Igbo land and we will end this argument.

Yujin:
Of course Olaudah was a very intelligent man no doubt but geography is something that is learnt and not just thought out. Without well detailed maps, anyone could get lost.
The map of West Africa even at his time wasn't detailed so he couldn't even as an adult pinpoint exactly where was from.
Why am I even wasting my time on you? Ukwuanis in present day Anioma didn't have Benin political influence talk more of crossing the Niger. Aboh was a force to be reckoned with as at the time and you must get passed towns like Aboh on the western part or Onitsha, Nnewi and lots of other Igbo towns to get to Ihiala which shares boundary with present day Imo state. Do you see how improbable it is for Benin to have had any political influence on Isseke? You can check Google map to understand better. This is my last reply to you on this topic.