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texaco1: bros , with all humility I will tell u that ur own questions knocks off the case u are trying to present.but I think a lawyer should be able to enlighten us more since we are both not lawyers .but from this tape tb has many escape routes from conviction

How? ?

Anyway, like u said. .a lawyer will beta enlighten d house.

texaco1: you can shake ur head as much as u like .but the truth is with this tape ,you don't have a water tight case against tb,there are many loopholes any competent lawyer exploit and build up. The only thing is he gave money and he stated the reasons there in the tape. The journalist should have tried to make him give a comment about what he actually wanted them to do.

o.k.. ..

Questions;

was the meeting held in d open or behind closed doors? ?

was the 'gift' given proportionate t wat it was for? ??

was d 'gift' capable of influencing opinions in his favor? ?

Did he (TbJ) suggest to them t 'soften d reports'

Did a journalist ask 'wat do u want us t write?'


Am by no means a lawyer, but dis case looks almost done t me.

enigmaotr: We are in Nigeria where CAN and PDP has labelled APC- Fashola's party- an Islamic Party! And you expect him to make one foolish move when we're just few months to the general election? Everything is politicised in Nigeria so I think he should tread softly.

Understood. .
but one of the first tins I said was f Fashola not to politicize dis as is d norm here.
We politicized boko haram n see where we are today.

The ppl that died were Nigerians...pussyfooting arnd dis will only reinforce the typical Nigerian belief that certain tins makes certain individuals untouchable.

I still stand by wat I said earlier. .firmly.

texaco1: u are letting the heat of this issue get to you. The person that recorded that message didn't do a good job. There is no where in that tape where tb asked the journalist to commit a crime ,infact it is the journalists that are in trouble because according to you ,it is not ethical for them to ask or collect brown envelopes which they did. Tb never said that the money was for them to suppress anything ,infact the journalists were the ones telling and coaching him what to say. It is a very very simple case for him to wriggle free. It is the journalists whose heads will roll . Tb was smart enough not to make any comment that will either implicate him or make him look as if he was bribing them .

s.m.h

Ventura1: Were they there on his invitation? If it is a press conference called by him it is a norm for the host to augment the cost of their visit, It is not a new thing. Beside what is the content of the tape being handed out to the journalist?
To the journalist that posted the audio, what is the truth T.B Joshua wanted you to supress that is not already in the public domain, that majority of those in the building are not Nigerians but south africans! you just want to create cheap popularity from a depressed man.

N50k that can fuel a fuel guzzling v6 engine f weeks was given as' transport expenses' aka fuel money n u call it the 'Norm'
o.k. o

In saner societies, the relevant agencies would've swung into action by now, but here we are arguing abt d right n wrong of an act that is Blatantly WRONG!
and someone was actually asking 'wat do u want us t report? '..n yet some ppl see nothing wrong wit it.

It's a pity, corruption has become so rampant, it's now seen as d norm.

JonBee1: Fashola has not done anything same Nigerian Christians are already screaming APC is Islamic and that Fashola is a Muslim persecuting Christians. Talk more of when he's done charging the rogue pastor for involuntary manslaughter...
Abegi free Fashola joor...

See your brother Wesley below
https://www.nairaland.com/1911333/apcs-islamic-agenda-synagogue-collapse

This is why countries like d U.S.A n odas are considered great cos in certain situations, they act regardless of political/religious affiliations.

Though it's true wat u said, but the onus lies on Fashola as a leader t take d necessary steps t ensure wateva went wrong is addressed as appropriate.

How would u feel if someone u knew had bin involved? ??
It's high time d citizens start having faith again in the system and this Starts with the Leaders.

PenSniper: Nicholas's behaviour in this case belies his aclaimed award achievements. And all those that have risen in his defence are either fools or mischievious or both. For an act to have been termed a bribe, it must've been clearly seen as an attempt to cover up a wrong, a wrong already known to the intended recepient, Nicholas in this case. Scores of people, including a professional rescue team from South Africa plus first-hand rescue workers in Nigeria have been to the site. I am no fan of TB Joshua or his brand of church, but given the fact that amongst these people must have been fortright people who cannot be cajoled into silence plus those that may have no use for the 'prophet', none of them have reported anything odd other than the attempt to add more floors to the building without adequate precautions, what then is Nicholas gloating about ? Although i agree that money could not have been offered, that is if it was at all, without alterior motive, but for what ? It may have been for image laundrying in which case it would be wrong to call it a bribe. With his so-called professionalism, Nicholas should've stated the reason behind the 'bribe' as he knows it or lay off, otherwise, he was only seeking to achieve cheap publicity through a tragedy of that magnitude which makes him a depraved element.

If it was for image laundering, wat would u call it? ??

tunde705: IF IT WAS A NONENTITY LIKE YOU FASHOLA WOULDNT HAVE BLINKED AN EYE BEFORE DESCENDING ON YOU. DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY FOREIGNERS FLY TO NIGERIA TO WORSHIP AT THE EVERY SUNDAY? FASHOLA KNOWS WHAT THE STATE AND EVEN THE COUNTRY IS GAIN FROM TB JOSHUA .

Thanks f d insult, won't bother replying that since you've already shown how uncouth u are.


No wonder ppl refer t ur country as a failed state esp with ppl like u as prime examples of the citizenry.


kudos

aderonila18: I don't blame Fashola, it's not because it's a big Church I think it because it a Church and you know how Nigerians are with Religion. There's a thread on Nairaland saying how Fashola and APC want to Islamise Nigeria because of the way the synagogue issue has been handled. According to the poster Fashola should be busying looking for the so called plane and not investigating the Church!

Imagine o, wetin be APC's business with plane or Synagogue but you see the average Nigerian doesn't reason when it comes to Religion. If Fashola handles this case the way it should be they will label him a jihadist. Even GEJ knows that if he dosen't thread careful the man will tell his people he is an Anti-Christ. Nigerians themselves are the problems, we allow these people to use us once they bring up these silly religious or tribal sentiments.

Fashola should, of a necessity, Do the Right thing, n not fall into the habit of playing politics wit Everything.
He owes the populace/those that elected him that much.


'nuff said.

McWhillion: and why are you trying to popularize him, he doesn't deserve it. Let him shut his trap and stop painting what his already black blacker. Those that accepted the 50k still reported what they found, so what the heck is his problem?

Enough already! !
If 50k was shared, for whatever reasons, he is well in his Rights as an investigative reporter t Talk about it.

This attitude of blindly taking sides on issues wen it involves 'one of ours' is simply tiring n disgusting.

In case you've forgotten, > 100 people of different nationalities, fellow Humanbeings, DIED dat day.
The Proper tin Needs t b done ..n answers provided.

NOBODY is above d course of d law.

MrsBreezy: Hahaha hmm I don't agree. You only see what I show you. Maybe I'm completely different hehehe

But thank you. It's much appreciated

maybe/maybe not, but wat I do know is..ur pretty, that I can see, ur witty n intelligent, that too is obvious and ur logical in ur reasoning as evident so far.


uwc tho

MrsBreezy: Yeah I agree. Majority of people will consider them as second class citizens in many different words because majority of women are incapable of standing independently. It is very annoying. I don't understand why you'd need a man to buy you gifts. Buy them yourself if u want it so bad.

Yes lol that is me. Sigh. My age isn't proportional to the way I think.

It is refreshing t actually see someone that reasons dis way.
I hope a lotta peeps borrow a leaf from u.


@d.p...beauty with wit n intelligence is like a well wrapped box of chocolate@xmas.
u mi lady r a complete package #flatteryaside

MrsBreezy: I completely agree. I wouldn't call the op silly tho . But i don't think it's wrong for him to buy you stuff. But looking for ways to make sure he does that's a bit desperate. Become successful in your own right. No need to be asking men to provide for you. Maybe this is why we're seen as a second class citizen

I wouldn't call ladies 2nd class citizens but wat do u expect wen a vast majority of ladies are so prone t not just accepting but Expectin handouts...unable/unwilling t b successful in their own right .


btw..is dat u@ d.p? ?
u sound so wise f one dat looks so young

MrsBreezy: Don't you have your own money?

Don't mind d silly o.p.
Instead of encouraging d female folks t 've a level of independece, he/she is here givin ridiculous tips.

F.Y.I, guys (such as myself) are more inclined t 'give' t a lady that looks out f herself than not. That way, it's pingpong, not money down a drainage pipe.

MrsBreezy: Don't you have your own money?

Don't mind d silly o.p.
Instead of encouraging d female folks t 've a level of independece, he/she is here givin ridiculous tips.

F.Y.I, guys (such as myself) are more inclined t 'give' t a lady that looks out f herself than not. That way, it's pingpong, not money down a drainage pipe.

hibro117: @All,I am a dealer n' have transacted with Ideasgate countless times. I've never had cause to regret doing biz with him. Whatever happened regarding d odometer must have been a kindda mistake which he(ideagates) tried to explain. He sends me car VINs even before I asked for it. I can't understand all d fuss abt tampering of d odometer. He is not a fraud n' will neva be one. He's an upright bizman 2 d core. I would implore u guys calling him names here 2 desist from such cos most of u,including OP,are worse than anyone can imagine. None of you guys are saints n' will never be. As for OP dat raised d false alarm,am begging u (and your cohorts) now to watch whatever you say as I might come back to haunt you sooner than you expect. A word is enough.

RUBBISH..
An experienced car dealer should/would suspect something fishy wit dat kinda mileage
saying' none of u guys are saints' is a really pathetic attempt@a defense.

Question, if d o.p had paid b4 d discovery, would he have bin upright enuff t do d needful? ??

Nonsense n ingredients


@o.p, Thank God for wisdom

well written...
younglins will do good to take note

omoyeme200: I have done that but she cries all through out when I raise the issue. Lately she said she will leave with the kids which I said never. She wants to rock and at the same time be with me.

An R-Kelly song comes t mind.. 'wat do u do wen her mind is gone' ?

Am sorry, but truly speaking, ur wife seems only t b attached t u presently via her ring finger n is probably bin held back by d guilt or waiting f justification t let go.
coupled wit that is d 'chat' u saw, which speaking as a guy, can be a lot t get over.

In situations like dis, I tink d onus lies on one of d parties t b willing t hold on tenaciously, in faith, till d situation improves or walk away ...either temporarily or permanently

who knows, a trial seperation may actually do y'all good.

Kpele


**listening t Chris Browns 'loyal' **

SMALLPENIS: Ewooo! That knife rewinding was hard o!
The Rewinding Man!

Not too hard if u put a small pencil/stick into the little hole bnth the reams...

Good ol' days

Onila, am your fan but

Daaaaaammmmmmnnnnnn.


still #teamvirgin tho

Khalessi: It's actually spelt Igbo.
Twinkle twinkle little slút name one guy you haven't fučked. Was he skinny? Was he tall? never mind you do them all. Twinkle twinkle little bitćh close your legs it smells like fish.

** ctrl S***

Khalessi: Am not calling you a slut but your vaginå has been used more times than Google.

..and as it was declared in time past..

..It is Finished..

curtain calls

**rushes in to grab a seat**
Damnit! ! missed d cat fight
**runs back t first page...**

iyisco2001: Congrats man.

Thanks

It's posts like this makes me feel pity for this country.

@o.p, there's a very simple way to confirm ur theories, jst take a ride down t d isolation centre@ Oduaha n give one of d patients a loving hug.
we'll check back in 21days



Nonsense n ingredients

I suddenly have a lil more respect f d Obasanjos .
impressive that his son isn't there hiding behind his father's name but actually in the frontline.

speedy recovery t him n R.I.P t d dead

xamuel17: Ebola Vaccine = EWEDU + Water

Lol

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The Minister of Health, Prof. Onyebuchi
Chukwu, Monday announced that the
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drug – Favipiravir – was developed by a
subsidiary of Fujifilm Holdings and could be
delivered immediately. The flu treatment
was approved by the Japanese health
ministry in March. Fujifilm spokesman
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with United States authorities about starting
clinical testing of Favipiravir for Ebola
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enough stock to treat around 20,000 patients.
Apart from the Japanese drug, Chukwu said
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which has been identified by the Treatment
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Council on Health meeting on Ebola Virus
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kaboninc: Firstly I would have preferred you replied with a definite answer and go on to prove your point. Secondly from the narration, its very clear that there is a bond and that bond is defined by the relationship mutually consented to and freely entered by the guy and lady without any form of coercion.

Going by your analogy, if I am rusticated, then I can consider my years spent in the university as a waste or some form of knowledge gain depending on my personal perspective of life: a loss if I indeed call it a loss and a gain if I am determined to succeed - no knowledge is a waste. In actual sense the relationship between the university and I was a waste (if I consider it to be). Lol. Same with this couple, they 'enjoyed' themselves, had fun together and for every action taken either as an individual or a group, they bear the responsibility. Don't you think its contradictory to say that you had fun, and excitement during the four years and later when the tide comes, you say all the time spent was a waste (4 years as a waste)?

This has become the habit of ladies who lack foresight and look for cheap blackmail or petty emotional justice to lay a blame on a guy simply because he refuses her insatiable need. One can only conclude that in other to pacify and accept the 'accusation', the guy can simply accept to marry the lady; question is have you thought about the consequences? If the guy has the same thought process as the lady then its only fair to conclude that both saw their years together as a waste; unless the guy has a different mindset. Personally I find it petty when a lady tells me that I wasted her years with me when we mutually agreed to be in a relationship. Either am a responsible partner and my partner is irresponsible or the reverse, we both have the right to claim wastage of years. The society just have this way of protecting a woman.

My interest here is on the claim made by the lady of wasting four years of her life.

well said..

bukatyne: Look at it this way...

You enter Uni to get a degree and after four years, you are rusticated or for some reasons could not get it; does it feel like wasted four years? does it matter if you wore the best clothes, won most handsome etc.?

You didnot achieve the purpose of entering the uni and that is a waste.

Now imagine you enter university with the aim to flex; your parents have one company you are to inherit and they probably forced you to school. If after four years, you no get pali, will it matter?

They BOTH Consented to be in a relationship.
They BOTH obviously went out of their way t please each other
It WAS, apparently, a loving, mutually benefiting relationship.
Calling ALL That a waste just to prove her selfish point/emotionally blackmail d guy is simply put..underhanded.
So if am to go by ur analogy, students that go in f a 4 yr course n eventually end up spending 6yrs or more b4 graduating shld consider all that a waste? ?
She obviously wasn't in a relationship but a race against society's expectations.

bukatyne: This is her 6th comment

Girl: I’d feel like I just wasted four years of my life if this is not heading anywhere

Was the guy not supposed to reassure her?

'wasted'
In a mutual, loving relationship? ?

Haba now!
I'll probably respond the same way d guy did.


Not saying he wasn't insensitive sha, but she might 've bin a bit less reckless wit her words.