₦airaland Forum

cap28:
Buhari actually rejected SAP and the IMF loans and instead tried to focus on paying off our debt  without restructuring the economy, his failure to fall into line with america's neo liberal economic policies placed him on a collision course with the west which eventually led to him being overthrown by Babangida - a US backed puppet.

Ola edo:
[size=15pt]Obasanjo leaves Cote d’Ivoire, Gbagbo defiant[/size]

Tuesday, 11 January 2011 00:00 Editor News - National



FORMER president Olusegun Obasanjo has left Cote d’Ivoire after he tried to persuade sitting president, Laurent Gbagbo, to step down peacefully.

The workers of the hotel where Obasanjo was staying and a member of his security detail, according to the Associated Press (AP) confirmed that the former president left early yesterday for Nigeria.

Gbagbo has refused to step down even though results issued by the electoral commission and certified by the United Nations (UN) showed he lost to opposition leader, Alassane Ouattara, by a near nine-point margin.

Obasanjo shuttled between the two men, seeing each once on Saturday night following his arrival, and twice on Sunday. The purpose of the visit was to exhaust the diplomatic options before a military intervention is considered.

Obasanjo made a surprise visit on Saturday night on a mission sanctioned by Nigeria, part of a flurry of initiatives aimed at persuading Gbagbo to give up power peacefully.

“My own exploration remains positive and to that extent ,  I am optimistic,” Obasanjo told journalists at a hotel in Abidjan late Sunday night.

He spent Sunday in talks with Gbagbo and Ouattara, who remains holed up in the lagoon-side Golf Hotel under guard of UN peacekeepers and blockaded by pro-Gbagbo military.

ECOWAS, headed by Nigerian President Goodluck Jonathan, has threatened to remove Gbagbo by force if he refuses to go quietly. But any such military effort would be logistically daunting, and Gbagbo has dismissed such threats as interference in Cote d’Ivoire’s sovereign affairs.

Asked whether he still thought military intervention was the solution, Obasanjo replied: “When you have a problem you must consider all possible solutions.”

“We know that an election has taken place. The whole world knows the result of the election. My exploration is to see how and where we go from here,” he said.

In a sign that cracks were appearing in ECOWAS’s tough stance, Ghana’s President John Atta Mills announced on Friday that he would not take sides in the conflict and he did not believe a military action would solve anything.

“We believe in quiet diplomacy, so I have expressed reservations about the success of the intended military option. There are more than one million Ghanaians in Cote d’Ivoire. I don’t want to be saddled with problems we can’t solve,” Mills said.

Four other African leaders were in Cote d’Ivoire at the start of last week to attempt to mediate, but came back empty-handed.

The UN says at least 210 people have been killed in violence since the election, including 14 in inter-ethnic violence in the western town of Duekoue in recent days.

http://www.guardiannewsngr.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=35151:obasanjo-leaves-cote-divoire-gbagbo-defiant&catid=1:national&Itemid=559

morpheus24:
In the event that your above statment is targeted at me I suggest you present your own reasonable arguement on the reasons  IMF loans have not suceeded in various African countries rather than kissing someone elses a.z.z

babapikin:
@ hugoo42

He does not need any approval or disapproval from any of the names you mentioned because none of them is his Boss.

Why do you need someone's opinion to know if your actions are right or wrong?

At his level, he is only answerable to ONE person - BABA GOD.

Period!

hugooh42:
I sense  jealousy and resentment especially from those mushroom Pastors calling for Pastor Chris's head.How many of them can pull such crowd?One even suggested he should be stoned. Anyway, a a boss with five hundred employees don't need to take advice from an employer with twenty workers. Am waiting to hear comments from the likes of Oyedepo, Adeboye, Kumuyi and then we can actually look at it from their perspective knowing they are familiar with crowd and crowd control.Am not a Christ embassy member but i think Oyakhilome has a reason for doing this.

cap28:
Okay fine, can you please provide me with your own tangible suggestions and resolutions to resolving this crisis.

can you also tell me how and why Ouattara is a better candidate for the job as opposed to Gbagbo? Im really interested in knowing what it is that Ouattara will do differently - thanks

iz2much:
Lets face the fact brothers, a family that had been trying to survive with the little they have,
when the little now goes to the pastor what will they live on for the month?

Eveoeve:
What do u and your type stand to gain by opening these type of threads?! It seems u guys have made a career out of criticising churches and their pastors! If u dont like your church or pastor why not simply go somewhere else or is it by force to worship there? May God deliver u oh.

Nnajide:
Whose right is it to choose the wedding location?

My mum has been very happy of my choice of wife until I  informed her that the wedding will not be holding in Aba and it has been war ever since!!!. Dad is late and she is my primary contact in naija for everything and has refused to move her foot except I have the wedding in Aba.

Nnajide:
Whose right is it to choose the wedding location?
Folks I’m in a dilemma here. I and my fiancé are planning to get married sometime this year and we have both agreed to have our wedding at Onitsha where my fiancé family comes from originally. I’m from Aba and my family lives in Aba as well. We are both based in US are planning to have have the traditional and white wedding at the same location so as to reduce the inconveniences of travelling from one point to another,risk and cost.

My mum has been very happy of my choice of wife until I  informed her that the wedding will not be holding in Aba and it has been war ever since!!!. Dad is late and she is my primary contact in naija for everything and has refused to move her foot except I have the wedding in Aba.

My question is who has the final call for a wedding location?  And how best can I handle the situation cus I’ve tried severally to convince my mum to come round but she has bluntly refused to bulge and threatened not to even attend the wedding if her wishes are not satisfied.

My fiancé as well is not happy about the situation as she thinks she is not welcome in my family. I’m at the risk of lossing at both ends if I don’t handle the situation well.

Any good advise is welcome! Thanks peeps

buzugee:
that fool is crazy

cap28:
hahaha dont mind them Dj20 - imagine thinking that the mafia was "dismantled" Buzugee go and research how the mafia were running the prostitution and gambling joints in Cuba before the Cuban revolution in 59, you also seem to be blissfully unaware that the mafia were implicated in the assassination of JFK former president of the US, how about JFK's younger brother bobby and his well publicised indictment of top mafia king pins which resulted in him ending up DEAD , oh lest i forget go and research  former head of the FBI J Edgar Hoover's "links" with the mafia - bro the mafia remain powerful and in control - they work hand in hand with the US govt, the only difference is that they have used money laundering to convert their businesses into legit activities.

tensor777:
So you get your information from Google instead of direct personal experience. Is that where you get your odd conspiracy theories from?

cap28:
Isnt it funny how the west picks and chooses when and where to intervene when the "wrong person" wins an election?

What i would like to know is why didnt the west intervene in nigeria in 1993 when IBB annulled the June 12 presidential elections?  How come they didnt suspend nigeria from the commonwealth, freeze our credit accounts, close down our export markets and impose draconian economic sanctions on us the way they have so quickly done in the case of Ivory coast.  Why didnt they send troops in to destroy the nigerian airforce in order to cripple any chance of a military retaliation ?

Could it be because Abiola was not the man they wanted in office in the same way that Gbagbo is no longer the man they feel should remain in office in Ivory coast?

All this talk about the west not wanting Gbagbo to extend his tenure is ridiculous, if i remember correctly Mobutu spent 35 years in office with military and financial backing of the US, Omar Bongo of Gabon spent a staggering 42 years in office courtesy of french backing, going down in history as the longest serving african head of state.  It appears that the west don't have a problem with sit tight dictators as long as they are PERSONALLY APPROVED BY THE WEST. 

This Outtara sounds just like he has been personally approved by the French, the fact that he is a westernised (brainwashed) ivorien married to a french (white) woman indicates where his loyalties lie.  The other glaring red flag is his former job at the IMF - an even clearer indication as to what his agenda is.

His position reminds me of that of Obasanjo's former finance minister - Okonjo Iweala, here is a woman who was instrumental in negotiating a deal between Nigeria and its foreign creditors in which we are said to have paid $12 billion in partial settlement of our alleged debts which were allegedly $18 billion , the americans are very good at doing this, they get an insider ie someone from the targeted country whose loyalties lie with the imperialist country and they use this insider to negotiate deals which favour the imperialist nation, the insider then agrees to negotiate unfavourable deals which short change their own countries in exchange the insider either receives a huge monetary reward or is elevated to an even higher position of power,  I hear Okonjo Iweala was appointed Managing Director of world bank shortly after her resignation under OBJ's administration - not bad for selling your country down the river.

Outtara is being used in a similiar way, as an imperialist puppet his job is to implement even more draconian SAP policies which will leave the Ivorian economy firmly in the hands of predatory multinational parasites.  This is the real reason why the west want Outtara in and Gbagbo out - again the same old cynical, greedy vultures sucking the lifeblood out of another african state. 

Nigeria will dutifully do the bidding of their own colonial masters - the british, by sending troops to fight on behalf of france, note how the financial times of london have said - " let the africans deal with their own problems", despite the fact that the french have orchestrated this entire crisis.  The truth of the matter is that the French do not see Ggabgbo as their puppet of choice and would prefer Outtara who is their agent and who will allow them unlimited access to Ivory Coast's vast natural resources.

if needed Nigeria will send troops to go and die so that France, the EU and the US can retain their parasitic grip on Ivory Coast's economy, the nigerian govt will do this for two reasons - so that they can continue to enjoy military aid from the west and to prevent nigeria from being the next target of the kind of western military and economic attacks that Ivory Coast is currently beign subjected to.

buzugee:
yall aint ready yet. shaking folks down, a system does not make.
thats why the USA govt got rid of the mafia. its a hustle.

buzugee:
huh ? nigerian generals studied all those books you listed ?  how come they cant speak proper english ? gerroutofhere with dat mess

buzugee:
dude is just brown-nosing cap28 

buzugee:
the blind leading the blind    nobody is playing the system. what system ? there is no system. its free for all. you have an idea and you implement it as no regulatory body is in place.

cap28:
but you would say that buzugee, what facts are you telling us - that indians and arabs are more proficient at running businesses than nigerians, but that is simply untrue, these parasites are in nigeria simply because the regulatory mechanisms which exist in other countries are virtually non existent in nigeria, these corrupt parasites are attracted to places where they can exploit the indigenous labour force and make an easy buck whilst the compromised "authorities" turn a blind eye.

Ymodulus:
We have seen this going on among christians especially the christ embassy pastors, so am asking is it biblical