raumdeuter: He was negotiating with China and China is negotiating too. Threats are part of negotiations
The whole world rolls out their red carpet for Trump from UK to China not when US presidents were shoved to back of th room or going around on apology tours all over the world
When were US presidents shoved to the back of rooms? Are you drunk?
And which president doesnt have red carpets rolled out for them?
raumdeuter: From years of seeing my post, you should know that I am not scared to stand on my own and post my opinion, I rarely follow the crowd. If you will describe me I am sure that is how you will
Unlike deepsight who is a symbol of obeisance, servitude, and likes to conform
Hahahahahahahahahahaha! Conform indeed.
Listen, you have been absent without leave. I need my laundry done and my cars washed. Skip to it, on pain of a hundred strong lashes of a bull whip.
raumdeuter: When someone is dedicated to your death and eradication, the logical thing is to ensure they dont get the means to achieve their aim
The same reason Egypt police their border against Gaza
I ask why is Egypt not allowing Gazans to come for employment or even healthcare yet Egypt does not get the criticism
It is a vicious cycle. If you cage, imprison, oppress and occupy the land of a people, you have enslaved them. If you have enslaved them, they will continuously fight for their freedom.
Occupied peoples have the right to resist occupation.
And when they fight for freedom, you then call them terrorists and say you have a right to suppress them and cage them.
This will go on forever if you dont free them.
It was the same in South Africa AND that is exactly why that country has a historic empathetic and psychological bond with Palestine.
Needless to say, the oppressors, including the USA and Britain, branded the ANC and Mandela terrorists. Sound familiar?
raumdeuter: Gazans come to Israel daily to work, Gazans come into Israel for healthcare. Egypt does not even allow them that.
The desire of Gazans that are taken for healthcare and employment is to kill the Israelis, So Israel should open their country to people whose desire is to eradicate them from the map
I said why must they block them from access to the world by even the sea, which is not owned by Israel? Why must they block their efforts at international recognition and sovereignty?
Why must they police what and who goes in and out of Gaza, are they slaves? Why are they expanding settlements in the West Bank?
So long as all this continues, Israel will never know peace. Free those people, period. They are not your slaves.
raumdeuter: Egypt has a blockade on Gaza but that one no concern you. Its Israel who lets them come in to work, get healthcare that should open their country so they can carry out their murderous intents
They are free not to open their country but why lock them in even by the sea? Does Egypt do that? Nope. Why steal their land in the West Bank and kill them in the West Bank and practice apartheid against them there? Does Egypt do that? Nope.
Why resist every effort they make to be internationally recognized and sovereign? Are they slaves? Does Egypt do that? Nope.
Try and think through what you post for even a nano second abeg.
benalvino3: China has leverage, yes. They are a big player but leverage is not the same thing as strength. They are weak.
China can pressure America through rare earths and supply chains I give you thst, but its own economy is struggling with a property crisis, weak consumer demand, deflation pressure, and overcapacity.
China GDP per capita is still around $15k while America’s is above $90k. Ain't that a britch?
Even BYD, which you like to hype, is not proof China is cruising. They are in financial collapse, they are is huge, but its recent profits dropped sharply and China domestic car demand has been weak. Exports are helping because domestic demand is not strong enough.
So no, negotiation with China is not begging. It is normal power politics between two economies that both need something from each other.
benalvino3: She rejecting race-based grievance politics and identity essential ism you people like and does not believe being black obligates a particular political outlook is not misalignment.
She and budaatum holds the view that Britain is among the least racist countries, she agrees with me, raumdeuter, Basilico and pretty much any one on the right by emphasizing individual agency over your collective victimhood narratives.
Nobody here supports the senseless killing of innocent people, whether Palestinian, Israeli, Iranian, or anyone else.
But the problem is that people like you often define senseless killing only when Israel or the US acts.
When Hamas kills civilians, when Iran funds proxies, when rockets are fired at Israel, suddenly people start adding context and excuses.
I support Israel’s right to defend itself against Hamas, Hezbollah, and Iran this will not change. You and I knows the bad guys.
The real issue is not whether ordinary Palestinians deserve dignity and safety. They do even if they are one of the worst people on this earth who have a party anytime people die in great numbers in the west.
The issue is that Palestinian leadership and political culture have repeatedly been shaped by rejectionism, terrorism, martyrdom ideology, and refusal to accept Israel’s existence.
So yes, Israel has the right to secure itself, control threats on its borders, and demand that any future Palestinian authority be demilitarized and reformed.
But pretending Israel is just randomly killing innocent people for fun is a lie, an ugly lie.
Palestinian state cannot exist in its current ideological form as a militarized rejectionist project.
If there is ever to be a Palestinian state, it must be demilitarized, deradicalized, and built around coexistence rather than the destruction of Israel.
If you disagree to this you will be here crying in the next 10 years when Gazans go into Israel and try to kill every Jews they can find again because they built one or two tunnels
If you cannot be sincere with what is at the root at this issue, you will just write endless meaningless epistles. Is Israel free and sovereign? Yes. Is Palestine free and sovereign? No. Who is holding and caging and occupying Palestine and stealing land in the West Bank as well as killing people there and practicing apartheid there?
If you cannot answer this with sincerity, no amount of "Israel has a right to defend itself" will mean anything. It doesn't make sense crying about a right to defend yourself against people you have caged and whose land you are illegally occupying. Against people who you deny the freedom and sovereignty you enjoy.
The plain truth is that you will neither rest nor know peace until you free those people.
raumdeuter: Shows how the world now respects the US president. The countries that matter in the world now know American leadership is back. No longer on apology tours
Hahahahahahahahahaha!
You are on something I swear!
For heavens sake, this was the man threatening China with jumping tariffs how long ago and he has gone to bend the knee after seeing what stern stuff they are made of!
American leadership is back indeed, maybe you didnt hear how Xi ignored calls from Trump.
You cant be serious. NO ONE TAKES AMERICA SERIOUSLY UNDER TRUMP - NO ONE.
IjeBos: You could show him an email that says "we are engaged in systematic racism" and he will find someway to say it isn't. He doesn't come at this in good faith or with any intellectual honesty.
We are living in a time where systematic racism is out in the open. From Hegeseth firing predominately black people To DOGE cutting programs because of black keywords To ICE stopping black and brown people because they happen to be at Home Depot (with the Supreme Court imprimatur). To States breaking up minority/black districts. If one can't see it in plain sight, they don't want to see it.
And that's not the far-reaching stuff like disparities of who gets arrested, trial outcomes or prison sentences, sentencing, etc. or even disparities on laws based on type of drugs you're caught with.
In my write up, I showed precisely how the past affects today and gave practical examples of policies. But its alright. I understand that you were so hurt you have decided to stick to that as your permanent response to everything. I wish you speedy recovery.
cococandy: Not fiction. And the funny thing is the bill was sponsored by a senate and a house republican. Meaning that the rest of them couldn’t have use the excuse that democrats were hiding something in the bill to avoid voting yes on it. That used to be their favorite excuse whenever a democrat sponsored legislation was introduced.
This time two decent republicans sponsored this bill and 36 of them voted no. Maybe those two republicans are RINOs because they don’t want to see kids get married.
Cc basilico. Every single persons who voted against ending chile marriage was a republican. You can go find more long balderdash to try to justify the nonsense. But we see you guys. If it quacks like a duck
Kudos to the two decent guys who sponsored the bill and those who voted yes.
Incredible.
Reminds me of the Nigerian Senate when many northern senators cried blue murder and voted against the Child Rights Act saying it was un-Islamic for barring marriage to underage girls.
TV01: ...I am always reasonable . Plus I am unable to commit to being or not being here for any length of time. I can commit to bursting your bubble when I come across you plaintive victim wailing and racism\supremacist mewling .
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Forget the timeframe then, and commit to the other terms.
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TV01: A modern western style nation is native to those nations and the peoples of the west. I am not saying civilisation is beyond other peoples or nations, or what civilisation\development should or would look like in those other peoples or nations.
What I am saying is that like the Japanese society is an outworking of their unique history and traditions (and in some respects is like WDN and can readily adapt and\or absorb aspects of them seamlessly if required), you can't expect all development by all peoples and nations to tend towards the WDN model.
Moreso, trying to forcibly impose it where it is contrary to natal inclinations and tendencies is a recipe for disaster - like an organ transplant gone wrong.
The reason why is because it is not natal. Part of the inherent consciousness derived from faith, history, tradition and customs.
As ever, drop your strawmen and faux outrage. Not racially inferior, but savagery certainly exists does it not? And where does that emanate from. Why can Fula pastoralists casually slaughter people who look not too dissimilar and are racially pretty much equivalent?
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I enjoin you to join the treaty I have signed with basilico for reasonableness for one week, because I want to go exhaustive on this topic.
GracieX3: Let's use the USA as an example. How long did it take them to move from butchering natives, to the wild west, to slavery, to civil war and to current day developed country? About 250 years.
But you want black south Africans to do miracles in 30 years.
Remember, both UK and USA were built with slave labour
History even tells us of great stagnancy for almost one thousand years in Europe which we call the middle ages today.
So should the Roman Masters of Britain have laughed and said - look! They cant do anything!
TV01: The problem is that at scale, sub-saharans do not have the wherewithal to create what is not native to them. It is clear-eyed reality.
What do you mean by the bold. Be specific. Do you mean civilization?
Admit it, if we emptied the UK and filled it with Nigerians, it would decline rapidly until it was a facsimile of Nigeria. It wouldn't hold as is, and it wouldn't get better. Likewise if you emptied Nigeria and filled it with people who grew up in a WDN (of whatever ethnicity), within a decade it would be transformed beyond the levels and imagination of any current SSA nation. Gainsay that all you like!
This is actually very true in a sense and if you cannot spot or understand exactly why it is true and exactly why it says alot against the argument that developing nations of today should magically photocopy the development of developed nations, then you dont know anything and you dont pause to think.
SA will soon regress to the days of Shaka Zulu
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Of course, since in your mind they are incapable racially inferior savages. This statement, jocular or not, says a lot.
benalvino3: This is emotional nonsense you have started with your gutter level understanding.
Being an immigrant does not mean you must support unlimited or badly controlled immigration.
many immigrants support stricter immigration because they understand the value of legal, orderly migration.
She s not anti-immigration simply because she criticizes mass immigration or failed integration.
It is like saying someone who entered a house legally is a hypocrite for wanting the door locked afterward. No serious country works that way.
Someone speaking good English is also accused of trying to be white in the US. So calling her trying to be white is just lazy racial policing. Racism is what you guys have as blood running in your veins.
Black person is only authentically black if she agrees with left-wing views on immigration, Britain, race, and Nigeria? That is your gutter-level reasoning here.
criticizing Nigeria is not insulting her homeland to score points. Many Nigerians criticize Nigeria every day because corruption, insecurity, bad governance, and institutional failure are real issues. Bayelsaowei is a champion of that. Why is it suddenly betrayal when Kemi says it?
Go after her policies. Fine. But she wants to be white and she is sucking up to the establishment is not an argument. Starmer is the establishment and she roasted him.
The establishment wants mass migration which is why opposition parties are sweeping Europe. It is just an attempt to shame a black woman for not speaking the way you want black people to speak.
I dont have the desire to engage in detail. But note that Kemi, like anti-immigrationists in the USA, is not just against illegal immigration or even "uncontrolled immigration" whatever that means.