₦airaland Forum

Kaczynski:
First sitting congresswoman to have a BBL

WHAT! Does that look like a butt lift to you? SMH

IronGalaxy:
Lol.. You also has the HIGHEST prevalence of babies born with HIV in the WORLD. HIV affects your wellbeing because those babies didnt fall from the sky my friend, they were conceived.. So when it comes to HIV talk, you shouldn't be even speaking..

Just tell us why your people love rai/pe?

IronGalaxy:
Its not the kind of thing you can point fingers about? Are you for real? LOL..

You mean insulting South Africans with HIV while having the worlds highest prevalence of HiV born babies? You dont throw stones living in a glass house

It means YOU cannot RAISE IT WITH US WHEN YOU ARE CONSISTENTLY THE HIGHEST.
Besides, you had to run to infant figures to escape because overall fugures have you FAR ahead due to your rape habit.

IronGalaxy:
let's say youre now number two, how does it change the fact that you're still beset by an HIV crisis ravaging your babies? Gosh you people

Neither does it change yours.

So its not the kind of thing you can finger point about.

That would be like us pointing fingers to you about official corruption.

When evaluating which country ranks highest for the absolute number of children living with or acquiring pediatric HIV, South Africa and Nigeria consistently alternate or share the leading positions depending on the specific indicator (total children living with HIV versus annual new vertical infections), tracking closely with UNAIDS and UNICEF global reporting.

South Africa generally records the highest total number of children living with HIV (ages 0–14), heavily influenced by its large overall population of people living with HIV, though its robust nationwide prevention of mother-to-child transmission (PMTCT) program has successfully driven down new infant infection rates relative to its baseline.

Nigeria frequently accounts for one of the highest numbers of newly acquired pediatric infections annually, driven by gaps in antenatal care coverage and lower rates of sustained antiretroviral therapy among pregnant women in certain regions.

Together with Mozambique, Uganda, and Tanzania, these nations remain the primary focal points of global efforts to eliminate mother-to-child transmission.

IronGalaxy:
I asked how are the news "outdated"? Have the babies cease to exist and the ahIV disappeared.. this back and forth is pointless, you cant answer

Did you go to school? Babies have not ceased to exist it simply means that Nigeria is no longer the highest and has been overtaken. Go check current stats.

IronGalaxy:
Outdated how? Have those kids ceased to exist? Has the stats declined? Have you solved mother-to- child transmission? NO! You guys are such a funny nationality hey..

pls go and get 2026 stats. I gave you them.

IronGalaxy:
The question was a simple one, where do your babies get the HIV? Surely they got is somewhere, so where?

Outdated pieces of news. Now tell me how Libya came up from SA kids looting shops?

We all know the boldest criminal in the world.

IronGalaxy:
The topic was about Libyan slavery.. it had nothing to do with HIV..

Are you high?

This is the opening post -

https://www.nairaland.com/8724991/south-african-school-children-looting#140280980

Its about SA children looting the shops of foreigners.

What does this have to do with Libyan slavery?

Secondly, you should be concerned with your own HIV stats, Nigerian babies have the highest HIV infection rates on this blue planet, how do you think they got the disease?

Why are you trying to limit the matter to babies? You think you are clever? Babies don't rape so you want to use that to avoid your rape problem.

Facts are -

what country has the highest hiv infection rates

The countries with the highest HIV prevalence rates (the percentage of the adult population living with HIV) are located in Southern Africa.
en.wikipedia.org

According to global health data from organizations like UNAIDS, the countries with the highest adult HIV prevalence rates include:

Eswatini (formerly Swaziland) – ~28%
Wikipedia

Lesotho – ~26%
Wikipedia

Zimbabwe – ~23%
Wikipedia

Botswana – ~22%
Wikipedia

South Africa – ~14% to 17%
Wikipedia

Distinction: Prevalence Rate vs. Total Number of Infections
When looking at the total number of people living with HIV (absolute numbers) rather than the percentage of the population:

South Africa has the highest total number of people living with HIV in the world, with over 9 million people affected, driven by its large population size.
Wikipedia

Other countries with large absolute numbers include India, Nigeria, Mozambique, and Kenya.

BUT STILL YOU LIED BECAUSE THE PLACES WITH HIGHEST INFANT HIV ARE STILL SOUTHERN AND EASTERN AFRICA -

Where are babies born with hiv the highest

Babies acquire HIV primarily through mother-to-child transmission (vertical transmission during pregnancy, childbirth, or breastfeeding).
UNAIDS

Geographically, sub-Saharan Africa bears the overwhelming burden of pediatric HIV, accounting for nearly 86% of all children and adolescents living with HIV worldwide.
UNICEF Data

When looking at where the highest concentrations of babies born with HIV occur, the data highlights specific regions and countries:

Regional Concentration
Eastern and Southern Africa is the region most heavily affected, accounting for roughly two-thirds of all children living with HIV globally.
African Constituency Bureau

IronGalaxy:
Were we talking about HIV? How did we get there? Because last time I checked the topic was about something totally different..-

Neither was the topic about Libya so how did you get there before I came along? See?

Also, there's a difference between AIDS and HIV

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Who are you trying to teach this?

Lastly, check which country has the most babies infected with HIV in the entire planet before trying to take a dig at us.

One of your problems is high infection by abominable rape rates.

IronGalaxy:
The intention is, I wasnt born yesterday.. Nigerians use HIv to insult South Africans all the time. Yet the same people die of curable diseases like Malaria..

Its no insult to point out the rape and AIDS pandemic in SA.
Or were you insulting us by mentioning human trafficking to Libya?
Why the double standards.

IronGalaxy:
Hahaha.. we are now resorting to insults.. classic Nigerian move..

Point out the insult.

IronGalaxy:
Lol, well this is rich

Funny chap. You use AI in the exact same way I used it for you to make the point that it depends on the question you ask and you are crying. Go and put that exact question using Ghana or Senegal and see what comes up.

Or do you start with quetions like is SA the rape / AIDS capital of the world. We both know the answer to that.

IronGalaxy:
im not ignoring anything, i can see attempts of cheap deflection ..the topic at hand was that are Nigerians complicit in trafficking their own people to Libyan slavery.. and they are. You cannot handle that truth.. that is not my problem

YOU CANT HANDLE A MIRROR.

Irongalaxy - I was not spinning anything -

how do many nigerians get trapped in libya

Many Nigerians become trapped in Libya as a result of irregular migration networks targeting individuals seeking economic opportunities in Europe. The journey typically transforms into a trap due to a combination of deceptive recruitment, severe financial exploitation, lawless transit conditions, and geopolitical enforcement policies.
YouTube

The primary factors and mechanisms driving this cycle include:

1. False Promises and Human Smuggling Networks
Deceptive Agents: Many migrants are recruited by human traffickers or local agents (often referred to colloquially as "connection men" who promise secure employment or straightforward passage to Europe through North Africa.
VOA

Hidden Costs: Migrants are frequently given low initial price quotes for the trip, only to find that costs balloon exponentially once they are mid-journey. Agents invent new fees for transit, food, "tax," or safe passage, stranding individuals who quickly run out of money.
The Migrant Project

2. The Dangerous Overland Transit
The Sahara Desert Route: Traveling northward through porous borders—frequently passing through transit hubs like Agadez in Niger—migrants face extreme physical dangers, including abandonment by smugglers, extreme dehydration, vehicle breakdowns, and extortion by criminal gangs.
The Migrant Project

Financial Depletion: By the time many reach the southern borders of Libya, their financial resources are entirely exhausted, leaving them completely dependent on—and vulnerable to—smugglers and armed militias.

3. Exploitation, Abduction, and Forced Labor in Libya
Lawlessness and Militia Control: Since the political destabilization and fall of Muammar Gaddafi's regime, parts of Libya have been controlled by shifting networks of armed militias, rebel factions, and criminal syndicates rather than a centralized, stable authority.
www.accord.org.za

Arbitrary Detention and Ransom: Migrants are frequently rounded up or bought and sold between criminal groups. They are held in formal and informal detention centers or private warehouses under horrific conditions (starvation, torture, and severe abuse) while captors demand exorbitant ransoms from their families back in Nigeria.
Amnesty International

Modern Slavery: Due to their inability to pay debts or transit fees, many Nigerians have been forced into unpaid labor or sold in illicit markets, while women and girls are disproportionately subjected to sexual violence and forced prostitution.
The Migrant Project

4. The Mediterranean Dead End and Interception
Failed Sea Crossings: Those who manage to reach the northern coast often pay criminal boat operators for passage across the Mediterranean Sea to Italy. The vessels provided are frequently unseaworthy, overcrowded, and prone to capsizing.
The Migrant Project

The Interception Cycle: Supported by international agreements (such as those involving the European Union and the European-trained Libyan Coast Guard), many migrant boats are intercepted at sea. Rather than being taken to a safe harbor in Europe, intercepted individuals are routinely brought back to Libya and deposited straight back into the abusive detention system they were trying to escape.
The Migrant Project
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Lacking legal documentation, money, or safe avenues to return home on their own, trapped migrants find themselves caught in a continuous cycle of abuse, extortion, and detention, requiring coordinated international and governmental repatriation efforts to escape.

IronGalaxy:
You are

Why are you ignoring the info on SA then?
Lack of intellectual honesty?

IronGalaxy:
Lol, you're at pains trying to spin the unspinable.

I am not at any pains its obvious. And you saw the out put on SA anyway.

IronGalaxy:
international presence on its own is pretty useless.. what does it serve? All these doctors you're bragging of yet Tinubu has to go overseas for medical treatment , Mandela died being attended in South African hospitals .. that's the dignity

We need to do better in this regard and is a consequence of corruption. There was a time when Saudi royalti came here for medical attention.

IronGalaxy:
All of this back and forth is for what exactly? Disputing that your people are setting their own people to be slaves in Libya? Are we now disputing the fact that Nigerians are heavily involved in human trafficking and trafficking of their own people?

Not really but you are mischaracterizing it and particularizing it.

1. Its not a case of a slav trade existing between Nigeria and Libya, not. Its mainly a question of intending migrants to Europe getting trapped in Libya on their way, principally by Libyan gangs and militia. That there are a few Nigerian collaborators is norma, there will be collaborators from many many countries.

2. This is where you are particulrizing it. Because if you put the same question with many other countries names you will get the same answer for them!

IronGalaxy:
Lol, This is brain-drain my friend, nothing to brag about. I would be more impressed if you told me your healthcare sector was functioning and you had ambulances servicing your people..telling me you have doctors in the US does what? How does it help a Nigerian in Nigeria in need of medical help?

Yes, but it goes beyond that into a robust international presence.

IronGalaxy:
gather information of your complicity on selling your own to slavery..

You are joking. You did the the exact same thing. Look at my post below and the information on your own complicity in human trafficking.
It shows you know nothing of AI. It will shove out based on what you put in.

Your question should have been What nationals are involved principally in Libyan human trafficking.

DeepSight:
Again, Gemini -

Do South Africans sell people` in human traficking?

Yes, human trafficking does occur in South Africa, as the country functions as a source, transit, and destination point for trafficking rings.
AWS

Law enforcement agencies, international bodies like the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC), and non-governmental organizations note several distinct patterns regarding human trafficking involving South Africa:

Role of South Africa: South Africa is primarily a destination country for individuals migrating from other African nations (such as Zimbabwe, Mozambique, Malawi, and Lesotho) as well as parts of South Asia and East Asia, seeking economic opportunities. However, native South Africans—particularly women and children from impoverished rural and urban areas—are also targets of internal trafficking for domestic servitude, forced labor, and sexual exploitation.
ResearchGate
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Perpetrators: Trafficking networks within the country are diverse. They include local South African syndicates as well as international criminal networks from various countries and regions operating across porous borders.
ResearchGate
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Forms of Exploitation: The most documented forms of human trafficking in South Africa include commercial sexual exploitation, forced labor (in agriculture, domestic work, and manufacturing), forced criminality, and illegal trades such as forced begging or localized traditional practices involving body parts.
United Nations in South Africa

As with global human trafficking trends, the crime is driven by organized criminal enterprises capitalizing on economic vulnerability, high unemployment, poverty, and gaps in border enforcement, rather than being exclusive to any single nationality.

IronGalaxy:
You're not debunking anything here.. and you're the one that doesnt understand how A.I works.

A.i. simply gathers relevant information of a particular issue from different sources on the internet and make it concise, that's what it does.. you're merely asking it to gather information or data and make it concise for you..

Lol, and what did you do?

IronGalaxy:
What is it about then? Having a Nigerian owner of GATWICK means what? Yall are international? You're such a deluded set of people

I told you I can mention thousands of examples. Its about a global mindset which predates the japa era.
In the 80s Nigeria already had tens of thousands of medical doctors in the US alonE. That was long before the japa set.

IronGalaxy:
You are making excuses here..

Again, Gemini -

Do South Africans sell people` in human traficking?

Yes, human trafficking does occur in South Africa, as the country functions as a source, transit, and destination point for trafficking rings.
AWS

Law enforcement agencies, international bodies like the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC), and non-governmental organizations note several distinct patterns regarding human trafficking involving South Africa:

Role of South Africa: South Africa is primarily a destination country for individuals migrating from other African nations (such as Zimbabwe, Mozambique, Malawi, and Lesotho) as well as parts of South Asia and East Asia, seeking economic opportunities. However, native South Africans—particularly women and children from impoverished rural and urban areas—are also targets of internal trafficking for domestic servitude, forced labor, and sexual exploitation.
ResearchGate
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Perpetrators: Trafficking networks within the country are diverse. They include local South African syndicates as well as international criminal networks from various countries and regions operating across porous borders.
ResearchGate
+ 1

Forms of Exploitation: The most documented forms of human trafficking in South Africa include commercial sexual exploitation, forced labor (in agriculture, domestic work, and manufacturing), forced criminality, and illegal trades such as forced begging or localized traditional practices involving body parts.
United Nations in South Africa

As with global human trafficking trends, the crime is driven by organized criminal enterprises capitalizing on economic vulnerability, high unemployment, poverty, and gaps in border enforcement, rather than being exclusive to any single nationality.

IronGalaxy:
You are making excuses here..

See an exampls -

Gemini -

Do Asians sell their people in human trafficking?

Human trafficking is a global criminal enterprise that transcends specific racial, ethnic, or geographic groups.
United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime

From the perspective of international law enforcement and data collected by organizations like the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC), human trafficking involves individuals from every continent. While criminal networks operate within and across various Asian countries—just as they do in Africa, Europe, the Americas, and the Middle East—trafficking is driven by organized criminal syndicates, poverty, conflict, and a lack of economic opportunity, rather than intrinsic ethnic or regional traits.
The United Nations in Vienna

Key dynamics regarding human trafficking globally and in relation to Asia include:

Domestic vs. Cross-Border Trafficking: A significant portion of human trafficking occurs within victims' own countries of origin, though international and regional trafficking rings (such as those involving forced labor in illegal online scam operations in parts of Southeast Asia) also recruit across borders.

Types of Exploitation: Victims globally are subjected to forced labor, sexual exploitation, forced criminality, and domestic servitude.
UNODC

Perpetrators: Traffickers are typically part of structured criminal networks or opportunistic local and international rings that exploit vulnerable populations, regardless of the shared nationality or ethnicity between the trafficker and the victim.
UNODC

IronGalaxy:
Ah typical Nigerian... always rushing to brag of trivialities.. was this what we were talking about? What does the owner of GATWICK have to do with being small minded"? Does the owner of GATWICK mean yall "international"?

I am telling you that its not about the japa set.

IronGalaxy:
What's this got to do with anything? Another deflection?

Dont you hate Africans and say you dont wish tp associate with us?

IronGalaxy:
The question was whether Nigerians sell each other for Libyan slavery and the answer according to the article is a resounding "yes" so what are you on about?

You dont know how to use AI. Try inputing the same question about any other country and see the result. Try Americans for example, or Chinese, or Malaysians. For most countries you will have a similar answer because there will always be outliers. The anser for Libya was clearly that local gangs are the main dealers.

Why not repeat the question for any other country south of Libya?

IronGalaxy:
Lol.. hahaha.. you think "japa" is being "international?

This is not about japa at all.
The Nigerian dispora accounts for experts, professionals and huge businessmen all over the world long ago.
Who is the DG of WTO?
Who owns GATWICK Airport?
I can cite thousands of examples.

IronGalaxy:
You never accountability for anything

iTS AS THOUGH YOU CANT READ YOUR OWN EXTRACT.
It clearly says who the main controllers are.
There will always be outliers of a few other nationals.

IronGalaxy:
Take Libya to the ICJ or report them to the AU then, your people are mistreated in South Africa aren't they? In Libya, they're treated much worse, so why the inconsistency of the response?

One-sided Pan-Africanism doesn't work for us.. The guilt-tripping won't work. Practice is in your failed states

You're just hypocrites..

Why not also leave the AU?