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LordReed:
Also why would this droplet in an infinite field want to pass through the arduous and risky process called birth?

And the process to even get to that point is so random you essentially don't know what you'll get until the formation of a physical body is underway. Isn’t that just too haphazard a process for something that purportedly emanates from a field of infinite possibilities?

budaatum:
If its not ill-intended then perhaps reign it in somewhat with conscious intention.

Lukgaf:
Okay thanks brother. InShaAllah sir

ehemwhy:
Even if it is not in the quoran , honor killing is still a logical extension of traditional Islamic gender practices, the natural consequence of a system that enforces sex segregation through veiling and female seclusion and harshly punishes violations of these boundaries.

Lukgaf:
Lol. What concerns Lukgaf here

underpinna:
My little sister has a boyfriend who writes her love letter.

She is learning computer in another village and always comes back home late. A journey of 30mins back from her training center will take her close to two hours.

I am not always home and just visited the first time this year. After the numerous complaint from my mum I decided to check her school bag and found four letters from a guy. All come came from him. I will be showing it to popsi. My little sis not not the biological daughter to my parents. Her mother was good to us hence we are returning the favor. She just finished secondary school and will soon pick jamb form to further her education on my father's financing.

I just fear pregnancy. She should be within 15-18 can't really tell though.

I'm just afraid popsi might sent her packing.

aribisala0:
They could be , I don't know but they could..
Assuming without conceding the photo is real in the 19th century women across all West Africa often were seen with their breasts exposed.


The shame associated with that today is directly imported frrom Islam and Christianity. It is not indigenous and I do not share it.

If you consider our weather and historical context you would know.

After 4 centuries of slave trade across West Africa there were no textile mills anywhere. Textiles were made by a very expensive process and clothes as we know them today were not worn in the 19th century.
We were first given shame and then textiles which were a significant ite of slave trade/exchange

You assume the stools are "royal" . I don't know.

Assumiing that is the case . The sacrilege you cite is not one I recognize.
I do not see anything wrong with those pictures .They are an accurate reflection of that time.
when Brassieres did not exist in West Africa . Curiosity and not denial is the way to deal with that.

For me they are excellent photos of strong women with a regal beaing.

Ernchibyke:
Indeed the world is really changed and changing. Decency is horridly becoming a thing to be read in the history books.
With this pace will i be wrong to say that a time will come when men and women will be proud walking the face of the earth naked all in the name of freedom.

God help us!

Kobojunkie:
Quip? No, simply stating that your culture is not the all and all out there.

Just so you know, if you don't already realize it by now, insulting me oy proves that you are indeed as small-minded as you appear and were probably raised.

Kobojunkie:
Again, try to stay away from topics you have little to no understanding of to begin with. Nothing of your dealings with your parents have to do with the Kingdom of God is what Jesus Christ teaches.

The Old Covenant Law of Moses was given instead as national constitution to those of the Nation of Israel, a nation that is of this here world and that contracts only bind those descended from the blood of Jacob, and the strangers that live among them in the land.

I am obviously not the sick one here since you are the one assuming children slaves of their parents. In other cultures around the world, parents infact owe their children an inheritance when they die. This is closer to the culture of the israelites in the bible than the hogwash you spew of how you owe your own parents for taking the responsibility that is you.

Kobojunkie:
Where in Christianity do you get this idea that children owe parents anything for Pete's sake?

Were you not paying attention when Jesus Christ told you that those who do not hate father, mother, brother, sister, children, wife, etc., for His sake are not worthy of Him?

Kobojunkie:
Raw deal from parents I remain in direct contact with even at age? You folks like to assume the world is shaped by your delusions.... that I find really creepy!

wirinet:
I am sorry you feel that way. You must have had a very loveless and traumatic childhood. I owe my mum a lot, that's why I owe it to her to provide all I can for her in her old age. She gave me the best education she could afford. I lacked nothing in terms of food or material things. I travelled for holidays to any country I wished for holidays. Then you expect me to owe her nothing?
That's called ungratefulness.

wirinet:
Amaechi is a seasoned politician, he had never lost an election before. Obasanjo was not a politician and had no grassroot support before he contested the 1999 elections. Forum Amaechi will get the support of the South South because he did well for the South South as transport minister. If he gets Tinubus support he will easily take south west, if he is anointed by Buhari, he will take the North East and North West.

wirinet:
Dealt mercilessly by wike, how? Have Amaechi contested an election with Wike and lost?

Belcon:
All lies....why not screen and alert everyone better still grab his dick and make him plead or get a sample of his sermen ..why I love white investigation he has been set free while samples of his saliva collected for proper investigations.if to say nah naija omo kirikiri straight without investigations

otherway:
Black man can eat anything.

sanpipita:
There are calls for her to resign, in coming days things might be clearer, lots of women have lost their jobs for having office romance.

https://theblast.com/170862/allison-gollust-scandal/

sanpipita:
They will still face disciplinary issues if caught, what exactly is your point? CNN CEO resigned after it was found out he had a affair with a staff.

LordReed:
What is most important here is your insistence that we are wrong and you are right. I think that is what has driven some of your more combative responses. It's instructive that while you think we are wrong you are yet to present any concrete way to show that you are correct and we are wrong.

diridiri:
I don't really see anything that I said that was an issue of interpretation or perspective. Most of my issues with the article were not on opinionated grounds but with the factually incorrect, deceptive, and unfounded claims it constantly made.

Same to you, though. I don't wish to keep you here any longer than you would prefer to be.

diridiri:
I know I wasn't the one being recommended the article, but I'm not particularly convinced by it.
I'll just place in some excerpts and write my thoughts on them.



I agree, mostly. Disagreements on what a "self" is notwithstanding, this seems factually correct.
What is quite puzzling, however, is the article's constant assertions that seems to suggest that a robot cannot have a subjective consciousness. Just because no known way exists to accomplish a task does not suggest that no way exists. It is only indicative of our current ignorance on the subject.



This is a pretty bold claim to make, considering that there is no scientific consensus as to where the "self" arises from. It makes the assertion that the self can not be generated by programming, even though there is no good reason to make this assumption. It also fails to entertain the possibility that animals are "programmed" by their nervous systems. A self-teaching robot is not programmed to execute the task required. It is programmed to be able to learn how to execute said task. This is, although heavily simplified, how deep learning works.



Yet another unfounded claim.
What is the difference between experiencing a sensation and obeying commands from the central nervous system?
And why the use of the word "obey"? Would you say your eye "obeys" commands from your brain? It might be slightly accurate, but it is definitely charged wording.

I love the little blurb that comes after this: "The paper requires a subscription". What does that have to do with anything? It's so out of place.



Admit? Admit what?
Whether this article likes it or not, nothing it itself proposes has been proven without a shadow of a doubt. There is nothing that even slightly indicates that only living beings can feel pain, unless you consider current lack of understanding a valid basis for completely discarding a line of inquiry. By this logic, people who claimed that propelled flight was impossible were not just speaking from a place of ignorance but objectively correct.



Yet another baseless insinuation that communication is somehow distinct from "...carrying out [one's] programming" .

Anyway, I read another one of its articles, one which the article you forwarded linked to. You can read it here: https://mindmatters.ai/2019/03/the-real-reason-why-only-human-beings-speak/

I don't plan on analyzing this article to as much detail as I did the previous, but its last paragraph is quite telling. It's amazing how people who peddle these theories never apply as much scrutiny to their own views as they do to "debunking" those of others. I doubt you'll be finding any proof of the "immaterial power" that they speak of any time soon, but that seems to be a nonissue. I wonder why.

diridiri:
My answer to both questions is: "I don't see why not".
I have yet to be given a convincing reason as to why any of this is or should be theoretically impossible. It definitely doesn't seem mechanically impossible.

LordReed:
I don't give a rats arse what you expected. You called on me to give my take on something to which i responded but I am the dodgy one while you tell me to "Je brake" when I ask you questions. You can Bleep off on your high hypocritical horse.

LordReed:
LMFAO! The article feels so shortsighted I can't but laugh. The author seems to believe that because machines cannot currently have an internally consistent and continuous experience therefore they never will, that is myopic to almost being luddite.

LordReed:
If you want a decent discussion with me refrain from making such accusations, they are uncalled for. You are the one who should man up and have the patience to ask questions and wait to get answers before you start throwing around hurtful words. I asked you several questions which you are yet to answer but you don't see me calling you dodgy or something. I am more man in that respect than you have shown.

LordReed:
You have a funny adversarial approach I find disconcerting. One moment we are talking without recrimination and expressing ideas next moment you jump to accusing one of bad intentions. I don't like dicussing with people who can't keep things on an even keel. WTF have I said now that requires you to say I am dodging?

LordReed:
I dunno how mean with reference to Krauss but I defined pain as interpretation of "hypersignals" recorded by an organism of adverse events. It is not merely seeing something labelled pain and saying yikes. The signals themselves are transmitting what you call pain. I went for a nerve conduction test and during the test they pass some sort of signal through your exposed skin. The very same signals that you are interpreting as mild tingling one moment become intense pain the next, why? Intensity which is why I use "hypersignal" to describe it. Another example is sound, the same sound that you find pleasant can be made very unpleasant by raising the intensity. A machine can be made to interpret signal intensity as pain same way a human interprets signal intensity as pain. There'd be no functional difference to the one experiencing it.