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musKeeto: Christian: Science only expresses God, it can never discover God. Scientists can never disprove God.

Atheist: Okay, so you believe those stories in the Bible? Noah' ark for example?

Christian: Yes, those stories are allegories. They hold a deeper meaning.


2 weeks later.....


Christians: Hey, do you know scientists have discovered Noah's Ark?

musKeeto:
Adeboye and Oyedepo... God dey watch una...

CHARLOE: Very insightful and brilliant write-up.I've been observing pst adeboye for some yrs now and i've been greatly disappointed, cos i used to respect him alot. From his incredulous miracles (holy spirit fed himself and his wife frm an empty pot, wanted to take a full cup of tea, shut his eyes and said 'holy spirit u're invited, opened his eyes n cup was half-full! drove hundreds of km on empty tank etc) to his phony, ponzi covenant partnership and frolicking with corrupt politicians, discouraging pple frm giving to d poor while encouraging dem to give to PST & GO, he has proved himself to be big hipocrite and a lion in sheep clothing. But trust nigerians to remain blind, just wait 4 d touch not my annointed group to jump on dis thread.

Alams’ pardon: It is not too late to reverse your decision – Methodist Church tells Jonathan


Methodist Church of Nigeria has flayed president Goodluck Jonathan on the state pardon granted former Governor of Bayelsa State, Chief Diepreye Alamieyeseigha and others, saying it was not too late for the authority to reverse some of its decisions with regards to the pardon.

The church in a statement at the end of the 22nd annual synod of the church’s Diocese of Remo, Oko Circuit, Sagamu, Ogun State, under the theme “What if the Lord had not been on our side”, said it was a wrong signal in relation to the fight against corruption.

The statement, signed by Rev. J. F. Osifuwa, Synod Secretary, Sir O. A. Jibodu, Lay President and Rt Rev. Babatunde Taiwo, Bishop, Diocese of Remo said: “The Synod observes with serious concern the series of state pardons granted those who have demonstrated abuse of office, corruption per excellence, absolute lack of care for the poor.”

“It is hereby being recommended that it is not too late for the authorities to reverse some of their decisions in this regard.”

The Synod urged the Federal Government to address the “perennial power instability.”

The statement also added that regular power supply will definitely enhance economic growth and development, promote rapid industrialisation and revive moribund factories and industries across Nigeria

Segeggs: Touch not their account and do their pocket no harm

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As an observer of African Pentecostalism in general and the dynamics of mega-churches in Nigeria specifically, I am no stranger to the outrageous and the bizarre
There is a new game in town. It involves- no garlands for guessing- the Redeemed Christian Church of God. But I err. Actually, it’s not a new game. What is going on is a rejuvenation of a scam that began ten years ago, and its chief perpetrator is no other than Pastor Enoch Adejare Adeboye, the General Overseer of the RCCG; Daddy G.O. for short.
It goes like this: for a specified amount of cash (hard currency preferred), you could enlist as one of the Redeemed Church’s coveted “Covenant Partners”.
The first round of recruitment took place ten years ago, as a result of which, according to Pastor Adeboye, many jaw-dropping miracles took place in the lives of the “partners.”
That agreement is now up for renewal. But wait a minute. The terms must be renegotiated; the duration, for a start. Apparently, God has suddenly grown weary of protecting his covenantees for ten years. Instead, according to Pastor Adeboye (I am quoting verbatim from the announcement on the RCCG website), ‘When I asked God, He said there will be a new set and it will not be for ten years.
He said “because those people were in covenant with you for ten years, I had no choice but to keep them alive for ten years.” He said “You tied my hands”. And I remembered all the miracles that happened in the life of my partners, and I thank God for all the miracles, I thank God for all my partners and I say, thank you for the past ten years.
Now, the Lord says to me, the new set of partners will be for only three years. He said after three years, we can review.’
As an observer of African Pentecostalism in general and the dynamics of mega-churches in Nigeria specifically, I am no stranger to the outrageous and the bizarre. But even for me, the absurdity on display here is simply stunning.
First, the content of what pastor is pawning here as a one-on-one between himself and God is a basic negation of one of the essential properties of the Christian God, i.e. his omniscience.
The God Adeboye is reporting here is not just utterly capricious; he is also cack-handed. After initially resolving to bless a chosen cohort for a ten-year period, he seems, in the strangest manner, to have had a change of mind.
This time, he will only lavish his special blessings on these new partners for only three years. And why? “Because those people were in covenant with you (Adeboye) for ten years, I had no choice but to keep them alive for ten years.” And why, you wonder, is wrong with that? Why would a good God not be motivated to keep his children alive for ten years? Why reduce ten to three?
Has God mysteriously lost his powers to do all things? Suppose, for instance, that a former covenantee resolves not to renew his/her lease, what happens? Does he or she then forfeit God’s blessings? And what happens in the interim, the time between the expiration of the former lease and the activation of a new one? Would God leave his sheep in limbo?
Questions like these are bound to boggle the critical mind, and make one wonder what God’s actual motives are. But the RCCG announcement furnishes us with probable answers, and this is the second theme I take up here. It transpires that membership of this elect list is not gratis.
Potentially, you could, on an ascending scale, join one of ten groups. Group one is obviously the lowest, and the requirement is a monthly contribution of N100, or, as the announcement briskly- and inaccurately- notes, “USD Equivalent $1.00.”
Top of the list is group ten. Members of this elite group will contribute a princely “N2, 000,000 (two million Naira) and above” or circa $20,000 every month into the coffers of the RCCG. So, you have it right there. You will be the recipient of untold- and conveniently unspecified- “blessings,” but only for a fee.
Gone are the days when God would bless you for merely obeying his commandments. No more. He is not only tired of keeping people alive for so long; the terms for securing God’s blessings have changed. You’ve gotta make a deposit, man!
As it is at the RCCG, so it is at majority of the countless houses of worship (sic) that currently combine to make the Nigerian society easily the worlds most churched. In these abominable places, any thief can be a pastor.Indeed, most are.
What varies is the degree of brazenness with which such religious leaders (sic) go about their nefarious acts, and the sophistication involved in the ruthless evisceration of their congregations. Majority of such congregations are of course there to be taken.
They are either too poor or too illiterate to understand the sociology of their own disemboweling, or too rich and ensconced to give up what they regard, literally speaking, as their investments. It is in this sense that a description of Nigerian churches as mere casinos gains special resonance. You know what goes on in those. In a casino, no one is interested in the pedigree of your money. In fact, the dodgier, the better. Why else do we call it a casino?
In perhaps the most astonishing example of moral bankruptcy in the history of spiritual leadership in the country, Pastor Adeboye and the RCCG, against a social backdrop of chronic underemployment and material deprivation of the most humanly degrading sort, have refused to ask their congregation the most basic and most important question of all: What is the source of your money?
The question is not trite. Neither is Adeboye and RCCG’s highest echelons’ refusal to pose it. Were they to pose it, they would rend the very principle that holds the church together, and that has catapulted it to its current status as one of the most prosperous private investments in modern Africa.
This is what every Nigerian should understand. RCCG is enriched when money is collected, no questions asked. This is the simple explanation for the spineless silence of pastor Adeboye himself in the face of the social tragedy that confronts Nigerians everywhere today.

Ihedinobi: What you have succeeded to accomplish with your list of questions is establish your inability to answer the questions posed to you and your willingness to resort to evasive techniques to prove that.

Uch74: For something to have too many fakes(Christianity inclusive), it means it has an original....God has handed different ministries to different people, we can't all believe in the same doctrine because we understand God & his word in different ways........

frosbel: "Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them." - Ephesians 5:11

"Those who sin should be reprimanded in front of the whole church; this will serve as a strong warning to others." - 1 Timothy 5:20

Galatians 2:14 When I saw that they were not acting in line with the truth of the gospel, I said to Peter in front of them all, "You are a Jew, yet you live like a Gentile and not like a Jew. How is it, then, that you force Gentiles to follow Jewish customs

In this video Creflo says it is not the Job of the laity to expose or talk about the sin of the leaders.

While I believe we should confess our sins to one another and pray for each other, we MUST expose charlatans and hirelings.

SMSguru: Yes, my spiritual father has just spoken during the Jubilee/Passover Night held at Living Faith Church, Canaanland, Ota, Africa.

He made it clear during his message to church faithfuls that God has a divine agenda for this great nation.

He prophesied without mincing words that Nigeria will be named among the World Powers by the year 2020.

I can't wait to see it happen because I'm so sure that it will happen. I'm also so sure that I will be alive, safer, sound and stronger by then.

Papa has spoken! And God has never allowed any of his words to fall to the ground because the scriptures can never be broken.

brosss: I percieve that you are offended by my statement-limited wisdom. However true it is, I honestly didn't intend to strike an already strained tendon. I only meant to explain that we as humans are not epitoms of knowledge, at least not by ourselves. I am afraid I can't tell you why those kids died, at least not until you explain, or proove( I believe that's the word) that God killed them. Also I am sure ( and stand to be corrected) that all knowledge you gathered from the matter at hand, trickled down from written materials or some form of documented materials. And for the anger, yes, God gets angry I will be factual, but His mercies is far greater.. One comparism always used in the scriptures(that's the Bible) is : His anger is for a while but his mercies endures for ever) every single person who sincerely seeks His mercies always find sanctuary from his anger. This is a far inconguity from what you call anger trautrums. I suppose from trautrums you mean uncontrolled anger based on no reasons. His anger usually has reasons,and He always provides an escape and good time to plead for mercy.

Kessythegeek: ANTI-CHRIST, ILLUMINANTS
TAKING OVER!!
A must read. 666 = The mark of the Beast
President Obama Vs
Revelation13:15 -18 The US
Senate has passed the Obama
Health Care' bill into law. The
implementation would
commence on 23/03/2013. This
bill would require all Americans to be implanted
with a Radio Frequency
Identification (RFID) chip
in order to access medical
care.The device will be
implanted on the forehead or on the arm. This is
to fulfill the prophesy in the
Book of
Revelation 13:15-18 concerning
the MARK OF THE BEAST! Are you still doubting the
ENDTIME? GET READY! The
rapture is near!.Revelations 13
is being played out right
before us. Many are still
unaware. (1) Why is the chip
being implanted exactly where
the Bible says it would be.
Why on the
hand and forehead. Why not
anywhere else? (2) Why is it being connected
to your bank account?
Remember the Bible says you
won't be able to buy
or sell without the mark. And
guess what! The chip is connected to your
financial details. What breaks
my heart the most is that
many people in the
church will not make it if Jesus
comes now? Many are unaware that the
end is near. Don't tell me that
its advancement in technology
or
development. If any area of
your life is not in sync with God's word Repent
and be converted. If you miss
heaven you can never miss
hell...think about
it. Hell is not a pretty place,
the worst part is that it is for eternity...Please
rather than post and forward
senseless messages. Send to
everyone you
know. Do the work of an
evangelist. PLEASE SHARE THIS MESSAGE WITH
ALL YOUR CONTACTS. Have
you ever wondered what
would have
happened if we treat the Holy
Bible the way we treat our mobile phone?
And we really can't live
without it. Only 7% will re-send
this message.
Don't be of the 93% who will
not share the message. Satan said "I wonder
how humans claim to Love God
and disobey Him, and claim
they hate me
yet they obey me"
Do not send later. Send now. May Almighty God grant
success to every one who
reads and sends this
message.

striktlymi: I don't mean communism!

striktlymi: You really can't see the fallacy? Wow!!!



If by "Atheistic countries" you mean contries who practiced state Atheism then let's bring out a classic country who did that. Russia! Go back and check what happened when that was done and come talk to us again!

And really this is irrelevant to the discuss cause he clearly drew from his personal experience.

Segeggs: @Gracebestowed.

mention 5 MOG dat have been spoken ill of and I will tell you their misdemeanors